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“Know the Difference Between Fuckable vs. Dateable”. A females pov.

RPmatrix
July 27, 2015
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Title “Know the Difference Between Fuckable vs. Dateable”. A females pov.
Author

RPmatrix
Upvotes 67
Comments 31
Date July 27, 2015 12:02 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3ergix/know_the_difference_between_fuckable_vs_dateable/
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Comments

[–]sway_usa 48 points49 points50 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The fact that they don't see how clearly the AFBB phenomenon is a thing, is laughable. Let's take a poll: how many guys want to be the "date" guy? For reference, the date guy:

  • has to meet her parents and probably sleep in a different bed when he stays at their boring ass house all weekend
  • has to buy her shit on every silly little anniversary or random date she picks of significance
  • has "loving" sex (aka once a week missionary in the bed)
  • she dresses "comfortably" for because she feels comfortable (large jeans, baggy t-shirts, flats or sneakers, short hair because long hair is "messy and hard")
  • arguments about silly shit, bills, etc

Now, let's take a look at what the "fuck" guys get:

  • No strings attached access to other girls
  • No parental visits
  • No arguments about the fucking FB relationship status
  • She still dresses like a woman to impress him
  • Actual good sex
  • Her respect
  • Freedom

Which one do you guys wanna be? I'll refrain to answer so I don't swing the votes.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

B..but she is the one! It is worth waiting and she will have sexnot necessarily with you if you show you truly love her!

[–]1gerwig2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of guys seem to be fine with the relationship aspect - they believe it is that life-fulfilling thing they've been missing.

[–]I_is_the_best2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The main problem is that most men believe it is perfectly normal to be a boyfriend, date, etc. It doesn't even cross their mind they could meet with a girl, get her to suck them off and that's it till the next meeting.

[–]Philhelm1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen. I made the mistake of getting married a few years ago, but the few good things are:

  • Easier to get laid spontaneously (Doesn't apply for Chad, of course).
  • Someone I can troll incessantly and she has to take it.
  • I don't have to worry about getting a STD (I hate condoms).
  • No first meetings (while a new lay was always exciting, pretending that I gave a shit about her inane prattle was insufferable! Now I can just ignore the woman but still own her.).
  • Someone who cooks, cleans, and does laundry. I can do all of that myself, and a better job of it at that, but if I must suffer her 24/7 presence, then it may as well be her doing those mundane things.
  • Someone who can drive me around like I'm a general.
  • I have two, non-bastard abomination children who I can also troll incessantly (especially when they become teenagers).

There are some good things about marriage/LTR's, but it still doesn't compare to being the guy that just pumps 'n dumps; not even close. If there were a beneficial way to demote the wife to queen plate status, I would.

[–]RPmatrix[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that they don't see how clearly the AFBB phenomenon is a thing, is laughable.

Indeed! I posted it as I thought it was a good exemplification of what TRP talks about

[–]The-Ban-Hammer51 points52 points53 points 11 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

If you're fuckable, you're worthy of her mouth on your cock.

If you're dateable, your wallet is worthy enough to pay for her.

[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is basically it. OP's post fumbles around the point and spews emotional rubbish in various directions like some clueless teenager trying to unhook a bra for the first time.

[–]chainlinks8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The first half I thought he was getting somewhere.

Then he starts babbling on about some story with a girl he lived with.

[–]Yo1oBaggins 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I talked to a number of my buds and they are tired of constantly paying for girls. First date is fine. Going out somewhere cheap is fine. But if you are in a relationship where you constantly paying for chicks and they rarely pay for you, you might as well just be banging prostitutes. What's the difference?

[–]The-Ban-Hammer6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

When a woman wants you, dates are irrelevant at first. They want to feel, suck, fuck, etc.

Dates are to screen for providers.

[–]Yo1oBaggins 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Uhhh if a girl is into you, she'll pay for you or at the very least split the bill with you. No need to be going out to places like fogo de chao every other weekend.

[–]The-Ban-Hammer1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Keep in mind that, until there is exclusivity, there is almost always a dateable guy and a fuckable guy. Well, there are probably multiple dateable guys and one or two fuckable guys.

If you're the guy "she's getting to know," you can be sure your dates are ending early because now she is going to fuck "Mr. Fuckable."

[–]Yo1oBaggins 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I've never had a problem with dates that end early but there have been dates that expect you to throw down everytime. Those are the ones you'd want to avoid. You know a girl is into you if she splits the bill or even pays for you. Pursue those.

[–]fabioochoa 15 points15 points15 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yoga instructor = daddy or BB pays her bills.

[–]RPmatrix[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

na mate, she's like 43 or something now

but yeah, her dad was filthy rich and idk if he's still alive, I only know about her yoga thingy coz someone showed me online, I haven't seen her in over 25yrs!

[–]Granny_Whisperer 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't really get what you are trying to say in the latter half of your post. As for the post wall alpha widow slut you should already know what we think about her.

Get it while the getting is good and you will always have the memories of all those times you fucked that fucking rockstar and how much fucking fun you had.

AWALT and we laugh at the cuck who marries her sagging post wall ass.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW1615 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't really get what you are trying to say in the latter half of your post.

I got confused half way through when it turned into his life story and he listed every single relationship he ever had. lol

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He's looking for validation.

[–]RPmatrix[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

I, matrix am seeking validation from the guys here?

you really think so?

If I didn't think you Vengy were fairly intelligent and have made some good posts with which I concur, I'd be replying rather differently to your comment.

Would you care to elaborate?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's validation seeking behavior, we all do it. It's not a bad thing in moderation. I do it too. Simply calling it what it is. Some people, especially girls, do it constantly and it shows insecurities. Everyone is insecure about something, some have more than others. Negging is manipulation of a girls insecurities, and it's playing on easy mode doing that. It's perfectly fine that we want a pat on the back from time to time, just realize what it is and don't let it control you like it controls girls.

[–]RPmatrix[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand what you're saying, and sure, we all seek validation in various ways, but I don't look for it here, or maybe I do and just don't realize it? I'm not sure but I don't think so, esp from some randoms I have had no interaction with, unlike yourself who I've had a few good back and forths with.

I have a good collection of quality friends, and a couple of guys I'd take a bullet for, and it's those people (plus my success with work and play) that tends to provides me with lots of 'validation', although to be honest, and I'm being completely honest here, I love socializing however I was clinically diagnosed as a sociopath (ASPD/BPD) which kinda makes me laugh as I'm often the life of the party!

Go figure? (actually I understand why pretty well) but I've yet to meet anyone in my life who's been through half the shit I've been through in my 48yrs, both my parents were dead by the time I was 17, so I've had to believe in myself as nobody else did back then, although many do now.

I've definitely had abandonent and commitment issues in my past, but (unbeknownst to me until I came across TRP) I was pretty hard core 'dark triad' in my youth, very possibly due to becoming parentless, coz my Croation barrister father would've riden my arse hard to comply with his narcissistic wishes, as I had been doing most of my life until he died in my arms, and I probably would've ended up a miserable professional of some sort, rather than the happy and reasonably content small businessman that I am.

Anyway, thanks for the reply Venge, I will certainly have a think about it as I tend to respect your opinions and I'm always up for some new food for thought!

hmmm, maybe you're right, I've been having a strange week dealing with fuckwits IRL at work, and people who are so deluded that I'm almost left speechless, which for me is rather unusual!

Plus I hurt my hand so I've been stuck in the office as I can't abseil at the moment, so maybe that's getting to me, idk, (although it's been fuckin COLD recently, so here recently, so I'm not too disappointed, but I love my work) I but I appreciate the feedback and the fact you cared to reply to what may have seemed like a stupid question

In a way that's why I post here too, so people like yourself can help me see myself more clearly, as being 'objective' about one's self is not easy, thankfully I have those good mates who I use as my 'sounding boards' and they wont pull their punches when it comes to telling me when they think I'm going off the rails.

Nonetheless,I appreciate your reply bro

cheers V

Matrix

edit: typical matrix fuck up and word repair (a word added; doing)

[–]1independentmale1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

you will always have the memories of all those times you fucked that fucking rockstar

Guess which memories she's reliving when her sweet, loving husband is getting his weekly obligation fuck?

I'd rather be single than LTR'd up with some bitch who fantasizes about all the Chads she used to fuck. Far too many relationships consist of women settling for men. Usually the fool guy is in love and giving her his all, while she's reluctantly going along with it because she needs a BB. This type of relationship can never end well and is fucking heartbreaking for the dude.

Not me. Never again. If a chick isn't crazy into me, I won't waste my time with her.

[–]skoobled1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I won't accept a relationship where I'm anything less than the AF with 100% certainty. And it's easy to know. The problem is you can fool yourself into a BB relationship with a hotter girl often, but in the long run you'll be fucked

[–]1NV0K3R4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Be honest. Be real. Don’t hurt other people lest you hurt yourself. Don’t treat a good man like a dick because you wouldn’t want a man to treat you like a cunt. Keep it sexy, keep it safe, keep it classy… but also keep it kind.

Guess what. You're 30. It's too late.

[–]thefisherman19610 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But it’s not so funny when you are on the receiving end of such a reference.

There goes that hamster again. The difference is that it's far less funny to guys, because calling men "human dildos" just implies that she uses a lot of different men for sex, and is incapable of forming any type of meaningful connection (like a slut), which is obviously a huge turnoff to men. Women, on the other hand, love being used by alphas, and men that do so typically have higher partner counts, indiciating abundance mentality, which turns women on further. Evidenced by this comment:

And I know I’m not the only chick he’s fucking. I don’t care. He’s hooked up with two of my friends, that I know about. I don’t care. He has dozens of model chicks and actress bitches at his disposal. I don’t care.

"I don't care" means "It makes me a little wet knowing he is desired by other women."

[–]RPmatrix[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

because calling men "human dildos" just implies that she uses a lot of different men for sex,

I'd say you're making a reasonalble assumption here, I'm inclined to agree wholeheartedly!

and is incapable of forming any type of meaningful connection

Hmmm, I'm not so sure about that.

Being 'incapable' and 'not wanting to' are two different things, although I see where you're coming from, I think one should be careful about making such assumptions without better evidence, after all this is just an excerpt from her life and as to exactly how 'true' it is ... is, well, open for debate

Nonetheless, I thought this blogpost exemplified many of the things TRP says, just from a females pov, which IMO only reinforces much of TRP's ideas about female attitudes and related behaviors i.e

"I don't care" means "It makes me a little wet knowing he is desired by other women."

Indeed! I read that as you did, with a similar interpretation

thanks for the thoughtful input matey

matrix

[–]thefisherman19611 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Being 'incapable' and 'not wanting to' are two different things, although I see where you're coming from, I think one should be careful about making such assumptions without better evidence, after all this is just an excerpt from her life and as to exactly how 'true' it is ... is, well, open for debate

You're right, but whether or not she is actually incapable or simply chooses not to be would be irrelevant from my perspective if I were considering an LTR with her. She might as well be incapable.

[–]RPmatrix[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I were considering an LTR with her. She might as well be incapable.

lol, bro I'm crazy and even I would steer well clear of this one if I knew these things about her, which chances are I'd only find out "the hard way!"

As for an LTR? ... fuggeddit!

[–]babydocnorman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

One of the cruelest ironies of the sexual marketplace is that a woman will delay fucking a guy she has tingles for but sees as "relationship material" but will be an unmitigated slut for "assholes" and "losers" (quoted text = Hamsterese).

[–]RPmatrix[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah matey, you've sure got that right!

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