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LTR - Where to draw the line?

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October 29, 2014
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Title LTR - Where to draw the line?
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Upvotes 5
Comments 17
Date October 29, 2014 7:50 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]SgtTRP 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There are no magic words that you can say and make your stop screwing other dudes.

I always make it a huge point to tell her "Better not be hooking up with any dudes!" And from my understanding this is a beta move because I'm trying to control her?

It's beta because your demonstrating your insecurity. To her.

If there's not enough trust, why do you allow her to party without you. (I probably wouldn't allow it myself if I had an LTR.)

You should read the sidebar and educate yourself on sexual strategy. Post this sort of questions to /r/askTRP

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[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Just to clarify, women want you to be in control, not controlling.

Better not be hooking up with any dudes

That comes off as insecure. It isn't a matter of showing lack of trust in her because to be honest you should never trust a woman. It is more of a matter that you aren't showing confidence in yourself. You are showing her that you afraid of losing her because she might find someone better. Be more confident in yourself and she will respond better.

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[–]OakTr3E 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I would say yes. If you do trust her (or want to at least appear to trust her) you shouldnt say "dont fool around" to her. Because that shows to her that you do not trust her. Which probably is a big turn off for her and might even increase the risk of her cheating on you.

You have the power in many other parts of your relationship to make her attracted and faithful-ish towards you. When she is going out to a party you are powerless. And as in all other aspects of life, when powerless, why fight? Just accept the situation.

You are probably right not to trust her but you benefit nothing from worrying about it and showing her that you are worried. Telling her "cool, have fun" with a (non-fake) smile on your face will display trust (or outcome independence). If she percieves it as "trust" she will probably feel more guilt when considering cheating on you. Not guaranteed of course. If she percieves your act as "outcome independence" you will be percieved as more confident and she might even feel a bit threatened because you arent getting threatened by her going out. "Why was he so cool about it? He usually doesn't react that way. Is he seeing someone else? Does he not like me anymore?" Yeah you can probably guess how the thought process might spin around in her head. But there will never be any guarantee that she wont cheat on you.

[–]Endorsed Contributoraaron_the_just 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A girl who hangs out with her friends at parties is a plate, not LTR material.

[–]infapwetrust 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't matter what you say, her hamster will save her anyway

[–]tombreck2 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You may not like to hear the truth but:

If a girl goes out partying with slutty friends then she is not LTR material.

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[–]I_Wear_Jorts5 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

That would just make me a hypocrite.

Sorta. It's really not a 1:1 comparison, although it seems like it is on the surface. When you think about it, your girl probably isn't THAT worried (if at all) that you'll be at these parties hooking up with other girls. She knows that you probably won't cheat on her, but even if you wanted to, it'd be pretty difficult. On the other hand, any girl (minus extremely obese women) can go out, decide she wants to hook up with a guy for whatever reason, and pull it off with ease. So, if she's out with her slutty friends who are banging different dudes every weekend, chances are, your girl will be getting a fair amount of male attention at these parties.

With all of that in mind, you have to ask yourself "Am I comfortable with this?" Back when I was in college, we knew a girl who had a "bf" that never seemed to make it to the same parties as she did. It was kinda a running joke, because she fucked all sorts of dudes while her bf was clueless. I'd see them holding hands on campus and laugh. I'm not saying this is happening to you, but you should probably reevaluate why you and your girl are frequently going to different parties. If you wanted to go to parties with her, could you? Or would she freak out if you decided to show up at 1 am because the party you went to sucked?

The overarching point I'm trying to make is, just because you do something, doesn't mean you are required to trust your gf in the same scenario. The "she lets me go so I should let her go without question" logic is flawed.

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[–]I_Wear_Jorts5 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Makes more sense now.

It's definitely a tough spot to be in. If it's something that truly bothers you (your gut instincts are normally correct), then maybe turning her into a plate might be a better option for you. Like someone else has mentioned, she may not cheat today or tomorrow or the next day, but the risk is always there. If that reality isn't something you are comfortable dealing with over the long term, you may want to consider finding a girl who lives closer, while plating/dumping your current girl. Again, I don't know all the details of your situation, but this seems like your best option imo.

[–]NullVoidZeroZilch 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it's because you do sound like a little bitch. If you're spinning a plate and she's at a party, you shouldn't even give a shit. If you're in an LTR, why is she going to a party? Unless it's her grandma's 80th birthday party, she will be getting hit on and she will flirt. Throw in alcohol and that's just a recipe for disaster. Maybe she won't cheat on you this time, or the second time, but by that third time she might just let the 6 foot 3 football player have his way with her.

Remember, women get hit on EVERYWHERE they go. That feeling you get in the pit of your stomach whenever she goes out that makes you wanna tell her "Better not be hooking up with any dudes!" is totally justifiable. You realize deep down inside that the gender equality myth is bullshit and is a societal construct. You realize by now that biology and nature are important and that a girl's night out is NOT the same as a guy's night out.

Trying to control a girl that doesn't respect you enough isn't gonna go anywhere. At the start of a relationship you want to establish a captain and first mate dynamic and it might be too late for you or it might not, but it's difficult to tell from your post.

In an LTR you want to be a mix of alpha and beta qualities. You want to be able to show her that you can provide for her but that you're also an alpha who pushes all the right buttons. If you're not capable of doing that, get out of your relationship, gym up and keep practicing your game.

You don't want to be controlling, you want to be assertive. You want to be able to tell her you're not comfortable with her going out with her friends and getting drunk, but you should have all the freedom to go out and enjoy a guy's night out. Because guys can get dressed and go out and talk business, politics or just get shit faced with their friends. But every decent looking girl in North America that gets dressed and goes out with her slutty friends will get guys trying to convince her to fuck them.

If you are incapable of doing this now, then get the fuck out of your relationship and keep working on yourself and mastering your game so you can eventually find a girl who isn't looking to go out, get drunk, and inevitably fall onto Chad Thundercock's dick.

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[–]NullVoidZeroZilch 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Things have happened in the past where drunk assclowns have tried to take advantage of her.

hey man I don't know about you but I would work on figuring this shit out with her. That sounds like a pretty bad situation. She goes out and guys try to take advantage of her, yet she continues to find herself out at events like these? Smells like trouble man.

[–]srsboats 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alphafux betabux. Which one do you think you're being?

[–]2RedPillSafe 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The Matrix has destroyed any shred of respectability in women by spoiling them.

So if you say:

"I am the captain, I decide where we go, I decide what YOU do."

...this may have worked in the days of Marriage 1.0 where the women had the DREAD that her misbehavior could get her thrown out onto the street to suffer in misery, but not today.

The Matrix has created a condition where she will experience no consequences to her actions, so defining "reality" on your own is not going to work.

Your only leverage is the "dread game" that says you will leave HER if she is unfaithful.

You have the power to walk away (and not be a beta cuckold) but that's it.

It's still possible to act as the captain, but she has to agree to the co-captain role. (it's not automatic)

Women want a rock to secure them...

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