(Mental) Chart for exchanging affection for sexual acts? LTR

Blood_Vaults · 2014-06-20T07:39:32+00:00

If you need a chart to interact with a human being, you're doing something very wrong.

BustaHymes · 2014-06-20T16:26:20+00:00

You have Asperger's Syndrome, bro. This is possibly the beep-boopiest thing I've ever read.

aphelion3342 · 2014-06-20T07:10:06+00:00

This horseshit is all backwards. If you find yourself having to play these stupid games with a girl, it's because you already lost. This needs to be nipped in the bud before it blooms.

[deleted] · 2014-06-20T10:44:59+00:00

This is already pretty serious, shes lost attraction to you, sorry but thats what it amounts to.

It CAN be fixed, but not by your system.

Implementing dread game immediately is the only thing that will save this. Hopefully her attraction hasnt gone past the point of no return.

[deleted] · 2014-06-20T07:54:08+00:00

never verbalize the matrix. A system is okay. A system you tell her about isn't.

Zephir__baned__baned · 2014-06-20T07:01:11+00:00

I don't really want to dump her because she is a really good catch

You've already lost the power

Read the sex god method and start thinking of yourself as "the really good catch"

_wolfgang_ · 2014-06-20T12:48:45+00:00

Bad idea as it plays into the frame of rewarding her for sexual acts and then before you know it you have to reward her more and more to get the same out of it when what you should be doing is running more game. Possibly along the lines of dread game to move away from "comfort" and to boost her attraction for you due to preselection and you being one foot out the door so she works harder to keep you.

soskrood · 2014-06-20T14:28:54+00:00

I think your idea on the whole is not so good, but the position of dominance that it came from is a good start. The good: you see a problem and want to act on it and use a tactic to get what you want (more sex).

The bad... keeping charts is petty and likely to backfire. Its also a lot more difficult that working on frame.

What you should do instead is work out and build frame. Say you want sex in the evening, in the morning when you are prepping lunches for work interrupt her by grabbing her hips from behind, grind into her once and say something like 'I'm going to want more of that tonight'. Maybe nip her neck then just walk off with a smile. Stop asking for sex and start telling her that you are having sex (both in word and action).

Women are bad at making decisions. If you leave the decision of 'when to have sex' up to them, they will choose 'never'. You decide, you lead, she will follow.

AreYouAware_ · 2014-06-20T17:35:05+00:00

I don't really want to dump her because she is a really good catch and I think that it's fixable.

This sounds like one-itis. Do you think she'll stop and think at some point that you're "a really good catch if she can just fix X?" Or will she leave you for a better prospect? Relationship equity doesn't exist in her mind, and you should question how valuable hers should be for you.

making a mental exchange chart which alots a certain amount of affection for every bj/slam I get with her (so a bj -> 10 kisses until the next one, sex-> cuddling at night etc).

This is not how it works. Women's attraction is not based on this sort of transaction. You don't put kisses and affection into them and then get blows and clam slams out. Even if that's how it worked, your plan requires you to be the one in control of when and how the sex happens, and that's clearly not the case right now.

Withhold kisses and cuddling if you want, but that alone is not going to spark her attraction to you. It will however, show you quickly whether she is on the verge of leaving you as you'll have cut off both the alpha and the beta valves.

needathrowawayplease · 2014-06-20T14:50:44+00:00

Withdrawing affection is an idea we've all thought of for reigniting interest, but unfortunately it works half the time and pushes her further away half the time.

Dread game is what you need man. It's the exact prescription for your problem.

busior · 2014-06-20T15:40:05+00:00

Here is an algorithm you're looking for -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xgjUhEG3U

It just needs some expanding here and there

dustyterran · 2014-06-21T20:09:43+00:00

Looks like you don't understand pavlov's discoveries at all brother

leodoestheopposite · 2014-06-22T12:39:30+00:00

STOP!

I am going through something similar right now.

Start with the point of view that:

the relationship is broken, and broken right now
while today you are still together, and you are trying to fix it, eventually there's a real chance that you might break up, and break up for good. See #1 above.

Since you're here in TRP, you've embraced TRP philosophy, the solution is for you to swallow the Red Pill and act like it. Take control of your persona and your life, and change the interactions you have with everyone including her. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, it doesn't matter, because you'll live your own life on your own terms, including spinning plates, and possibly one of those plates might become a Long Term Relationship, where she might be the only plate with whom you're intimate; but not spinning.

Is she the only plate you're spinning?

Title	(Mental) Chart for exchanging affection for sexual acts? LTR
Author	Zephir__baned__baned
Upvotes	0
Comments	22
Date	June 20, 2014 6:55 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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