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Moving past the bitterness

aresta

July 7, 2014
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Title Moving past the bitterness
Author

aresta

Upvotes 13
Comments 27
Date July 7, 2014 9:47 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2a34vl/moving_past_the_bitterness/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/moving-past-the-bitterness.17652
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Comments

[–]knitro7 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I think you'll unfairly catch heat here for 'concern trolling' or whatever people like to call more moderate posts, but this is pretty good.

The biggest part of getting over the bitterness is to realize that a lot of the stuff (hypergamy, AABB, etc) is in large part subconscious and women don't necessarily act out of malicious intent rather rabid self-interest. AS YOU SHOULD TOO. Sure there's avaricious girls out there, but mean-spirited and/or weak-willed people cut across both genders.

The best thing you can do is know the score and don't orbit, get played, waste time, etc. There's a reason trp mantra includes terms like NEXT, AWALT and the abundance mentality. There's millions of girls out there, some are good fits, some are great fits, some are near perfect fits etc.. You'll never know if you go out there and look for it.

You can't change the world, but you can change yourself. TRP can be a confirmation bias trap if you're not out living life. I try to use it as a reference and tool in my day to day interactions with other people, allow me to reexamine things and strive to do better in the future.

Me three years ago: Why didn't she text back? Stumped

Me a year ago: I know why she didn't text back, but that's sucks

Me now: I don't care if she texts back - if she doesn't, she wasn't worth it anyhow.

[–]Tombstone31 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank god someone posted this. This sub has the potential to go so deep into understanding male-female dynamics, and it's wasted on ranting and raving about bullshit.

[–]phantom_ranger 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

All of you are fucking unredeemable faggots if you think feminism is some benevolent movement about "equality".

Give me a fucking break.

Apparently you've never been inside a divorce court, or for that matter, on a college campus.

[–]tallwheel 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's the thing: Society is far more aware of men's negative tendencies than they are of women's. Hell, I and most of us here know that there are some bad things that men tend to do, and if we are honest, that a lot of that is related to their being men (wanting to trade for younger/more attractive women, higher risk taking behavior in men leading to higher rates of crime/violence).

I think the next thing necessary is that society needs more awareness of women's bad tendencies such as hypergamy and hypoagency. I would personally just like to see a more balanced perspective on male/female nature in wider society. And feminists are some of the biggest defenders of the man bad/woman good paradigm. I won't give them a pass.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some of this is just locker room talk. This is the way guys talked for about 1,999,960 years of the 2,000,000 or so years of human civilization- those damn bitches and whores who did x..y..z- da feminists started closing guy spaces and infiltrating the rest so there are almost none left today.

Rollo recently took on this issue: http://therationalmale.com/2014/06/03/male-space/

You don't think women have their confab bitch sessions? Difference is this is about the only place men have left to bitch, and now your trying to take even that away from us. Boo Hoo!

We all know men can be assholes and women can be saints and we certainly make broad generalizations but recognizing the different sexual motivations can do that. We are trying to understand an entirely alien paradigm.

OP does not seem to understand ("Feminism is by God the most annoying complaint") that feminism has WON. They have unbalanced the power between the genders to the point marriage is a losing game for men- and you want us to stop commenting on this neo-Marxist Macrosocial mental disorder we call feminism? Forget it.

[–]3rdweal 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A common complaint of women on here is that women are all hypergamous whores looking for the next cock to jump on.

It's only a complaint because it runs contrary to what we were raised to believe about women. Once you recognize it as a trait, you stop whining about it and strive to become the next cock to jump on.

Also stop hating women for what they are attracted to. When a career woman posts that men aren’t attracted to her career and accomplishments, you guys laugh at her. Yet then you complain at women for liking the quarter back or the frat star.

I haven't been here long, but I believe the advice here would be "stop complaining and become that quarter back or frat star".

Realize that most women aren’t feminist, and those that are feminist mainly believe that men and women should be equal.

I doubt that. Most women want the privileges of being male without the burden of disposability, cherry-picking the metrics where you want disparities reduced is not equality.

[–]Piroko 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

you will think that all women are evil

No, it's not that.

Feminism is a thought virus.

Its adherents aren't evil, but they ARE infected.

[+]aresta[S] -7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

  • some feminists are men

  • most women aren't feminists

[–]Piroko 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't recall saying anything about the gender of its adherents.

Men can be carriers of it just as women can. But it IS a virus, and its effect is to decimate fertility.

[–]pcadrian3 points 12 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

This post is supposed to be about getting over the bitterness that every red pill initiate goes through. However, it's really just a post defending typical bad female behaviour by giving examples of male behaviour that women have to deal with. I don't really give a damn about that.

[–]aresta[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No it isn't. It's saying we don't attribute male bad behavior to being a male. So stop attributing female bad behavior to being a female.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Our society and schools and correction systems certainly attribute male bad behavior to being a male. What the hell are you even talking about? If that is OP's point then he (you) are an idiot or a concern troller- or both.

The courts can attribute male behavior and presume maternal custody but we here on a little tiny Reddit blog can't attribute female behavior to the state of being female? Try again.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Female hypergamy- Easy to take advantage of, just find poorer women. That's why I don't complain about it, I benefit from it.

Feminism is great except for the bitter punish-me-for-having-a-penis types. Feminism is responsible for women having sexual freedom and being able to become strippers and pornstars. That means I have more naked women to look at.

Fat acceptance- lifestyle and diet are the major factors in obesity. It isn't fat acceptance that is responsible, it is sedentary lifestyles, cheap abundant food, suburbanized pedestrian-hostile, car-oriented communities, and so on.

Yes, men and women are assholes.

Western women- there's lots of different cultures in the world, but I've found poorer women in some poorer countries (those that are more open to dating outside of their culture) are less stuck up, hostile, and over-demanding than women in rich western countries are. These observations are based on personal experience. In addition, I don't think they mean all "Western women", just the ones in rich Western countries. For example, women in Latin American countries are also Western.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

And I wouldn't say you're angry at the "women." Because men also do the same thing. Men with girlfriends also eye-fuck other women, check out other girls and flirt with them even in front of their girlfriends. But you're not mad at these men, are you?

Any man capable of cheating probably pays for his own shit. Women sponge off their husbands and phone in the sex while fucking other men for real.

[–]aresta[S] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

There are plenty of relationships highschool/college where men cheat and no money is involved...

Second it doesn't change the emotional trauma that comes from cheating.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're telling me investing 10 years of paychecks wouldn't change how you felt about a woman at all?

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[–]aresta[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You dumb cunt. My point is we don't attribute male bad behavior to being a male. Majority of criminals are MALE does that mean all men are criminals?

[–]3rdweal 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Correction, the majority of incarcerated criminals are male. Men are demonstrably given harsher punishments for the same crimes when compared to women, while the latter are frequently not held accountable for their actions.

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[–]aresta[S] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't change my position at all what flaw do you see in my argument?

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[–]aresta[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lowest its been in a long time. I think that's something to be proud of.

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[–]aresta[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

or it can be attributed to people waiting till they are settled down in life before getting married.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Constructed criticism of female behavior is a good thing. Informed opinions are good.

Women-bashing because you're angsty about being friendzoned is not good.

If you men think you're such better than the irrational feminists of the world, fucking act like it. Stop making generalizations. Stop using non-specific language like "lots of women." Do research and make better points. And for gods sake, remember that men have flaws too. Some of the redpillers on here seem to think men are some sort of supreme logical beings while women are head-thumping, drooling buffoons.

[–]1stBornFury -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This ^ everyone should read this

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