Outrage junkies and TRP

anttyk47 · 2014-04-02T11:39:20+00:00

interesting questions at the end.

I think most TRP readers go through a phase where the outrage is the main motivator to continue down the road. For the ones still stuck at that phase I have some good news. Once the principles settle in and the theory is internalized, things that used to cause outrage no longer surprise you. It sounds like cynicism but it's not quite, it's more of a zen state. You'll no longer feel the need to stroke your own ego for "being redpilled" or whatever.

With time and discipline you'll learn to be in complete control of your emotions. Your knowledge will be used less for ego boosts and more towards building your life properly.

nyrp · 2014-04-02T09:47:10+00:00

Are you using your time on this sub to better yourself or are you just stroking your outrage boner?

A little of both. But they fuel each other.

My outrage helps me not fall into the same old traps. Avoiding the traps betters my success with women. My success with women gives me more occasions to witness RP truths in action. Seeing RP truths in actions can lead to outrage. I come back to stroke my outrage boner here so I can avoid the trap of being outraged in public. Shooting off a hot outrage load or two here, I can go back out and walk with improved calm and confidence. The calm and confidence attracts... And the cycle continues...

noblepaladin · 2014-04-02T13:36:29+00:00

I love schadenfreude when it is deserved. But in public, you can't express it when it happens to certain groups, such as women or fat people, without risk of backlash. But everybody feasts and faps over it when it happens to other groups. For example, there is very little sympathy for lawyers or bankers or sexually promiscuous men. This is one of the few places where you can enjoy schadenfreude when it happens to some of the "protected" groups.

Xein · 2014-04-02T12:44:41+00:00

Colbert is one of the greats.

Your post reminds me of what I've forgotten since I went to college and would regularly see people outraged about pretty much anything. I still can't relate to these "outrage junkies" but I'm glad you pointed it out.

I think when you come into TRP, you need to adopt the role of a scientist or an anthropologist studying another culture. You don't assign emotions and moral judgments to what you see, you simply accept it for what it is. Remember that truth and knowledge are what you seek and these things are numb to emotional evaluations.

Why are we here? Different reasons surely, but the primary one is to make our lives better in whatever way we deem fit. Those goals look different for everyone, but the truths here apply just the same. If you are here to learn about WHY things work and HOW to make certain things happen in your life then you need to check your moral and emotional judgments at the door.

I think this is actually the hardest thing about "unplugging".

ImAJerkButImRight · 2014-04-02T15:53:06+00:00

Colbert wouldn't dare make the same joke about blacks or post wall women or single moms. Asians are easy to shit on as a group because they are seen as lemmings who will vote democrat regardless.

I hate to generalize but that is how I see it.

neo-nonpua · 2014-04-02T15:57:02+00:00

RedSunBlue wrote: Feminists with rape fantasies harp on about rape culture until anything remotely sexual can be construed as rape.

Now, dear reader, it is time for some self-reflection.

Are you an outrage junkie too?

I think this is the main purpose of TRP for many guys -- look at the homepage of this subreddit. Why would any guy go out of his way to find instances of "evil women doing evil things to their hapless male victims" across the Internet, and come back to post about his "scientific findings" for a forum of similarly frustrated guys?

That kind of post is a demonstration of the Reddit hivemind at its worst: people hanging out in a small niche area reinforcing distorted beliefs and creating a pseudo-"subculture" that validates both their ego and their opinions without offering a meaningful alternative for living their lives. There are meaningful posts here, but they're set in a mentality that seems to contradict itself by encouraging Righteous Internet Warriors in order to keep content flowing on the homepage (and to stoke people's emotions enough to stick around rather than go out and live their lives -- which you also wisely covered in your last question).

The histrionic "anti-feminism" of so-called "men's rights advocates" is just as cartoonish and sad as the histrionic pseudo-feminist "rape culture" delusions of some women (and their male counterparts).

More unfortunate is the number of young guys who are easily seduced by the feverish tone of urgency in many of these posts. The amount of time wasted on imbibing the "Red Pill" and becoming a member of the club would be much better spent learning some critical and creative thinking skills and deciding for yourself. Thinking is a skill. Becoming a "true believer" as a member of an ideological subreddit is not.

Do you come here and post links/comments denigrating women sleeping around because you want to as well but can't?

It seems like they don't necessarily want to, but feel a bizarre moral obligation to shame women who do -- as if those women would care in any case. At least the poster of such links/comments gets to keep his self-righteous ideological rectitude in the face of a world full of cruel, immoral women (cue horror movie music).

Do you come here and shit on happily married guys because they've found that happiness that you desire?

Sad (and unsurprising) if true about a large number of guys here who are the "Defenders of the TRP social justice agenda across the Internet, especially when trending on Twitter".

Do you come here and tut-tut up and coming playboys because they're succeeding where you aren't?

Ha. Internet. Trolls hiding behind keyboards. This question answers itself.

Are you using your time on this sub to better yourself or are you just stroking your outrage boner?

To extend the question, are the outrage boners banding together to enforce "TRP doctrine" on each other and anyone else using the same herd thinking that they claim to reject in women? Answer: there are 44,581 people subscribed to this subreddit. The herd has arrived.

GhostInTheRedPill · 2014-04-02T10:47:24+00:00

Next: The NWA foundation for African Americans.

Science_isthenewcool · 2014-04-02T17:48:36+00:00

I am going to steal the term "Outrage Boner"! Well done, excellent work.

CarlsPudding · 2014-04-02T13:18:06+00:00

Dude... I don't think I've ever had an outrage boner before. That shit is going on my bucket list.

Excellent post. Excellent. One that a lot of posters here seem like they could benefit from,

[deleted] · 2014-04-02T14:02:52+00:00

There are trends in every way of thinking and I love seeing them develop. I just had a conversation the other day about how The Red Pill is becoming more and more pushed towards examples of how stupid women and our society can be. Now I see a shift to posts similar to this one which is great.

I used to get upset and defensive when it came to certain ideas and incidents that I thought were wrong. Now I come to terms with it, act appropriately, and move on. This shift in my process has been EXTREMELY beneficial to my growth as man.

Self-reflection is a start but I would like to add to your point with something else I follow. "The Law of Attraction" I have not encountered in my daily life near the amount of bullshit from women or beta men I did in the past. It is not that they don't exist, I just don't let them into my reality.

It is alright to learn how the world operates because it helps you make better decisions. It is not alright to get stuck on it and as a consequence, make it your reality.

RedSunBlue · 2014-04-03T02:09:16+00:00

Outrage junkies are also exponentially worse in groups - or in virtual groups. This is why you have feminists tearing down fit moms, MRAs tearing down feminists, and SJW / LBGT tearing down feminists being wealthy white women, and wealthy white women like Arianna Huffington laughing all the way to the bank.

[deleted] · 2014-04-02T12:45:57+00:00

Are you an outrage junkie too?

I am.

Do you come here and post links/comments denigrating women sleeping around because you want to as well but can't?

I do come here to point and laugh at the stupidity of some women (as well as men). I am a spiteful, vicious bastard who very much enjoys seeing the wicked (as I define such things) suffer. I do not hold ill will toward women who, like me, simply form shallow bonds with their romantic interests. I do, however, blame most women who ride the 'Cock carousel'. They are not happy doing so, and many of them would be a great deal happier under the old system of courtship. I blame them for being unable to live their lives in such a way as to allow them to find happiness. They are infantile in that way, and I resent them for that the same as I resent the blue-pill men who cling to their childish fantasies rather than acknowledging reality. They refuse to pursue their own happiness, instead bowing to the pressure put on them by others. I think that worthy of contempt.

Do you come here and shit on happily married guys because they've found that happiness that you desire?

I do not want to shit on happily married men, though I question under what circumstances I would see such a rare creature here. I admit that I do envy their happiness, but I am not the kind of many who has ever done anything but flit from short-term fling to short-term fling. I am 32 years old now, and while I suppose that I could put some effort into settling down with some curvy little 26 year old, have kids and a family – and I could probably even keep them. But when I look at people with that life, well, I can't see myself there. I envy their happiness, but that just isn't me.

Do you come here and tut-tut up and coming playboys because they're succeeding where you aren't?

No. I do alright for myself, and to the extent that other men are (undoubtedly) doing better, good for them. My dick is no less wet for their efforts. I like to see other men do well. Everything is better when all men are doing well.

Are you using your time on this sub to better yourself or are you just stroking your outrage boner?

I don't want to better myself. I am the man I want to be. I am here to stroke that outrage boner good and long.

IllimitableMan · 2014-04-02T14:16:54+00:00

Are you an outrage junkie too?

No I value logic over emotions, I hate people who need drama just to function, they're the opposite type of person to what I am. Stoicism is a cornerstone of RP philosophy. Men need their anger to process injustice and fuel self-improvement, but it shouldn't get to a point where this anger defines who you are and causes you to be irrational/hateful purely because that's all you've come to know.

Do you come here and post links/comments denigrating women sleeping around because you want to as well but can't?

No I believe women sleeping around is bad for society. The 80-20 thing is bad for society, very bad. I'm a philosophical character. I do see a deviation in RPers in that, the successful men here who are in the 20% of men getting diversified regular poon tend to ignore how bad for society that is and say "become the 20%" to the betas, as if everyone can be in the top 20% (fallacy), sexed up men tend to give less of a shit about men who aren't and get addicted to their ego, in the sense that, they have all this power over women that other men don't. This ego becomes a huge part of their character and changes their personality, it causes bigotry towards men who don't get laid a lot because they can't relate to the problem (anymore.)

If every man in society improved himself 2 SMV points, you'd still have men outside the 20%, you'd still have the 20% being SMUG and looking down on the 80% saying "I love sluts I get to try out so much different pussy" and the 80% would be bitching how women are whores. The fact of the matter is, it's like capitalism, if you are going to horde all the sexual wealth and not have some means of redistribution, the majority will always be pissed whilst the "elite" will enjoy the status quo, blaming the average man for his own failures in order to justify his own insanely disproportionate amount of sexual access.

Do you come here and shit on happily married guys because they've found that happiness that you desire?

Nah I don't believe in leaving yourself that financially vulnerable via the only contract which can be violated at any time without penalty but if you wanna do it and you're happy for at least the time being, fuck it, good luck to you, enjoy it while it lasts. I think it's a really poor/dumb move rationally speaking, but jealousy is a weak trait. I do not allow myself to be jealous. Often I am not jealous, and when I am (of anything) I detect it and suppress it, I do not act on it or give any indication of it to anyone.

Do you come here and tut-tut up and coming playboys because they're succeeding where you aren't?

No they're inspiration to up your own sexual game, on a macro scale I don't think it's good a very few men are hording up all the pussy, but from the micro "be selfish and enjoy the decline point of view" you can learn a lot from these people. I have conflicts in dissonance here that I cannot reconcile, I recognise my own power I can exert over women and like the control, and at the same time do not like what a few percentage of men doing this to the women in society causes for the rest of men. This is the carnal/primal/testosterone limbic mind vs. the rationalism of my neo cortex.

Are you using your time on this sub to better yourself or are you just stroking your outrage boner?

I'm not outraged I'm in that acceptance stage where I just find women perpetually disappointing, I accept they are disappointing, I'm not angry about it. I'm of the "well that's how they are" kinda state.

TRP is more than about sex/game to me, to me game is the icing on the cake of a successful life. I don't practice it religiously because I have better ways to spend my time, as in, I get more done doing chasing my own goals rather than chasing poon.

TRP is about so much more than game/pua, it's easy to see which users used to lurk /r/seduction because their focus is almost entirely game orientated and fair enough, but to me they are like the opposite of MGTOWs, they dont shutup about closing/getting laid it seems to permeate their mindsets. To me people like that are boring whether they succeed at it or not, you need more about yourself than the hobby of pulling tail. Sure it's fun, I get that, I've had immense fun doing it myself, but I don't let it become my personality. I think successful rpers/puas get addicted to their own charm/getting women and it becomes a huge part of who they are. To me that's a skillset to be used, but not immersed in. I don't want to become casanova, I just want to be able to hold my own out there and flip attraction switches when the moment is opportune. I'm of the belief/idea quality people (including women) enter your life through mass self-improvement, I'm an attractor, not a hunter. PUA to me is very huntsman like. Like all men I go "hunting" on occasion, but you won't see me out every weekend with the intention of getting laid, it's not my style or how I operate.

Some TRP theory on game is great, but routines and making it a lifestyle? Really not my thing, not that obsessed with women despite my libido. I've taken a lot from TRP and very little of it is game related. If you're confident you have charisma. From there on it's just realising if you're alpha fucks/beta bucks, utilising dread game selectively and using 48 laws not to give too much away. To me, it's that simple. IoIs and shit like that are a given, I can cold read well.

As you can tell I'm really not enthralled by the whole "science of pickup" type shit and neither do I advocate it as even being a cornerstone of TRP philosophy. Some of the ideas and concepts are useful but the whole culture/idea to me is the wrong approach. It's not male-centric enough, it's still all about the women and the obsession with women. I'm more obsessed with myself and my own self-improvement than I give fucks about women.

11411181 · 2014-04-02T09:27:58+00:00

They seek outrage, I suspect, just so that they can either a) actually feel something in their otherwise dull and uneventful lives

Also known as drama queens! Spot on analysis.

Endevour · 2014-04-02T15:00:11+00:00

I like to think that I read about the "outrageous" things happening here so I can avoid to make the same mistakes in my own life.

__ROOSTER__ · 2014-04-02T17:39:41+00:00

I have no outrage. I don't get mad about reality.

I'm here to better myself so that I can more successfully lead a marriage and family, and do better as a man in all aspects of life.

cooltrip · 2014-04-02T17:44:32+00:00

Among the several interesting lessons this subreddit has to teach, I think there is this one:

"Not only women are free; men are free too. So a man has no moral duty of accepting a woman anyway and in any case, no matter what attributes or behaviors might that woman own that he doesn't like, just the same way women are selective and picky and they only choose the man they like, without anyone having the right to tell them what man to choose. The idea we have been indoctrinated that women can be picky and can freely choose and reject men, but men must accept every woman no matter what things he doesn't like about her, is wrong and must be dismissed".

In other words: women have a lot of fun in using their freedom about men; so I think this subreddit is fair in discussing how men can too have a lot of fun in using their freedom about women, in rightful and due ways.

You know the term "Men rights", yeah?

Not only women should have a right to hold preferences and standards about men; men should have a right to hold preferences and standards about women too.

mikelovesvegas · 2014-04-02T18:02:49+00:00

Amused mastery, as always, continues to be the most effective approach.

87GNX · 2014-04-02T18:58:01+00:00

Now, dear reader, it is time for some self-reflection.

Are you an outrage junkie too? Do you come here and post links/comments denigrating women sleeping around because you want to as well but can't? Do you come here and shit on happily married guys because they've found that happiness that you desire?

Couldn't read this without imagining the end voiceover from Eazy-E's A bitch is a bitch

leftajar · 2014-04-02T19:18:38+00:00

Are you an outrage junkie too?

When I need to blow off steam, I go onto /r/relationships and RP it up like a motherfucker. 'Cause fuck them, and maybe it helps a guy or two.

Let me be clear: I don't player-hate. But I DO hate on people who are giving shitty advice designed to perpetuate the misery of fellow men. If that makes me an outrage junky, guilty as charged.

Sturmgeist781 · 2014-04-02T19:20:54+00:00

Suey Park is no different from Sheila Broflovski.

Total attention whores.

ImAJerkButImRight · 2014-04-02T20:29:01+00:00

I tell you what I love is when liberals like Colbert get a taste of their own medicine and do something to make the outrage freaks turn on them.

Imus had a similar incident a while back, the "nappy-headed ho" thing.

PaulRivers10 · 2014-04-02T17:07:15+00:00

Outrage is a completely valid response for certain things, and some of the time. If you've spent your whole life believing in the women are unicorns fantasy, or the feminist (and female) hamstering of redescribing everything women do in long stories that always absolve them of responsibility, it makes sense to go through a period of outrage.

Problem is that some outrage is totally different than constantly obsessing over it.

It's like let's say you have forum dedicated to banking. It's understandable to be outraged that banks are getting robbed, but when the front page is filled with an endless series of posts all the time about it, rather than primarily being about interest rates, fdic issues, tax stuf, etc etc - it changes from outrage that helps, to outrage junkiness.

This is a problem in all forums, and TRP is not in any way immune. I know when I started it was a HUGE relief to see other people pointing out the bullshit. This was the only place that actually did that, and it really helped me a lot to realize that women getting pissed off about pointing it out was only about them personally not liking acknowledging reality.

But then after that, I've gotten tired of the constant stream of it. I don't mean don't say it - not at all - but if 10-20% of posts were like that it would be fine, but some days it seems like it's around 75%. It gets into outrage junky territory, just like the OP is saying.

Title	Outrage junkies and TRP
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