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Possible Red Pill Terminator over at /r/Confession - dark triad, experimenting on girls, remorseless fucking machine, but needs guidance

HumanSockPuppet

January 10, 2014
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Title Possible Red Pill Terminator over at /r/Confession - dark triad, experimenting on girls, remorseless fucking machine, but needs guidance
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HumanSockPuppet

Upvotes 24
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Date January 10, 2014 10:33 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1uvh2x/possible_red_pill_terminator_over_at_rconfession/
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[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

IDK about this. r/Confession gets massive amounts of troll bait "just to see what people would say". What I don't believe is that he portrayed himself as a stereotypical beta in high school, then all of a sudden he is a sociopath, unaffected by suicide threats, meticulously tracking women, systematically breaking them down then breaking up with them, etc. You don't get to become DT / a sociopath in a few years of casual dating. Most sociopaths exhibit signs of it since childhood and most people who are truly narcissistic / unemotional exhibit those traits towards all people, not simply towards women. To the point where it's unclear if they love their family, unclear if they can ever truly have friends, etc.

I'm guessing this guy has read about psychology and is simply trying to emulate this Dark triad traits. I mean, all teenagers fetishize DT traits at some point and think it's cool to be a sociopath incapable of emotion, machine-like in their dealings with women. His whole "you might think it's a paradise but it's totally not!" part and this idea of "I never blink during emotional moments" is kinda wacky IMO. In fact, I would argue if he was this DT narcissistic machine-fucker, he would be against seeking out the opinions of others on reddit, since sociopaths and narcissists typically are unable to take other people's opinions into consideration. They value other people's thoughts so low and they think it's one of their greatest strengths that they construct their own thoughts and ideas.

I do think, however, that if this is real, then I wouldn't say he's RP. In terms of optimizing his own sexual strategy, he is failing by his own standard. If he is telling the truth, then he is miserable and hasn't gotten enjoyment out of spinning plates. What is the point if it isn't bringing you happiness? His sexual strategy (meet em, fuck em for a while, cut em loose) is not working, yet he has been doing it for 6 years. Maybe because he thinks that's "cool", maybe because society and textbooks said that's what bad boy DT guys are supposed to do. At any rate though, if this post is real (which I doubt) then he is living in a form of fantasy too, BP in the most RP way possible.

Edit: this guy apparently records facts about his stools everyday, as well as what he eats to the gram, his urine colors, and regularly gets his bone density checked and his bloodwork done professionally. Yet when everyone says "get therapy" he says he doesn't have the time or money. He also grew from 5'1 to 6'1 and packed on 80 lbs of muscle in 2 years, which even with the 15-17 year old puberty spike, is kinda ridiculous. Not buying it.

[–]fiat_lux_1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

In fact, I would argue if he was this DT narcissistic machine-fucker, he would be against seeking out the opinions of others on reddit, since sociopaths and narcissists typically are unable to take other people's opinions into consideration. They value other people's thoughts so low and they think it's one of their greatest strengths that they construct their own thoughts and ideas.

It's possible that he's bragging. It's not like any of us could do anything about it if it was real.

this guy apparently records facts about his stools everyday, as well as what he eats to the gram, his urine colors, and regularly gets his bone density checked and his bloodwork done professionally. Yet when everyone says "get therapy" he says he doesn't have the time or money.

He never said he has this done "professionally". Professional monitoring of "emotional fluctuations" isn't even a service. From the sound of it, he does this himself and trusts his own observations (quantitative and qualitative). He has calipers of his own. Physician's scales that he mentioned using can be found at any half-decent gym.

I used to do quick calculations in my mind of how many grams of protein I was getting when I got more serious about lifting and building muscle. It took very little effort to look to the back at the nutrition labels, or (for produce, meat, etc, stuff without labels) check online. I could, to this day remember details about what % fat milk has the highest amount of protein per serving (1%). Best protein to calorie ratio is non-fat milk, obviously. And the cheapest meat source of protein is tuna (avg 40g per typical can).

It sounds crazy to most people who weren't athletes or physically competitive.

The only part of this that raised an eyebrow was his mention of DEXA. For reference: You can be expected to pay about 200-250 USD these days. He'd be paying 800-1000 USD annually if it's a quarterly thing.

Therapy, on the other hand, is expensive. The only way I could afford it was through my father's insurance. Other people do so through my school's provided insurance, which was good. (Some people managed to avoid that.) It's also time consuming in more ways than one. I was mentally paralyzed for a semester from either geodon or wellbutrin.

Also, his problem with getting this funded is asking his parents for the money and explaining the situation to them. I can see how asking for funding for DEXA would be easier. My own parents paid for my set of weights when I was in HS as they respected that I was putting effort into my physical self. I wasn't nearly as ready to discuss issues that might disappoint them.

He also grew from 5'1 to 6'1 and packed on 80 lbs of muscle in 2 years, which even with the 15-17 year old puberty spike, is kinda ridiculous. Not buying it

On average,

peak height velocity occurs in boys at the age of 14, at a rate of 10.3 cm per year. That's over 4 inches per year. That's average. Growing a foot is within the realm of possibility from age 15-17.

Peak weight velocity occurs at the same time, at a rate of about 9 kg per year. That's almost 20 lbs per year. This can easily be amplified by weight lifting. I added 50 lbs to my body weight in my last two years of high school (that's AFTER my peak height velocity which should usually coincide with peak weight), and I didn't even know what the fuck I was doing. One bicep was noticeably larger than the other, because I casually curled with it while watching tv too often and stupidly thought it would help me win at arm wrestling vs other guys. I didn't take protein supplements... didn't even know how much I needed for how much I was working out.

Again, the numbers I showed were averages, including kids who didn't put any effort into their growth. I can easily see someone putting on 80 lbs during puberty (not just of muscle) if he was actually that aware at that age. I had friends in HS who were athletes who had gone through that.

For an independent source: http://peds.stanford.edu/Rotations/adolescent_medicine/documents/jahgrowthatpuberty.pdf

I don't believe the guy either, but that's because I'm just cynical in general.

What you mentioned alone though isn't cause for concern.

[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Growing a foot in highschool? This guy is a total troll.

[–]fiat_lux_1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

I've seen it happen. I knew anecdotal evidence wasn't enough, which is why I even included an article from Stanford researchers.

Boys attain a peak height velocity of 10.3 cm/year, on average, 2 years later than girls, during Tanner genital stage 4, and gain 28 cm in height [16].

That is close to a foot.

These are average numbers. Some may take longer, some take shorter. Some get their growth spurts later. Look at that peak height velocity. That is slightly over 4 inches a year. Supposedly, it took this OP 3 years to grow a foot, meaning he either went higher than average, or maintained average peak for a longer period of time than most boys.

Not exactly improbable.

I'm not sure why this of all things is what's questionable about that OP's post. If he's lying, then he's done his research and kept his bragging within reason at least.

EDIT: Reading through that OP's history, he doesn't even say that he gained it all in 3 years.

I was in puberty (15) for the 1st measurement and the second was my stats 6 years later.

6 years between measurements.

[–]Modredpillschool-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Most kids are almost as tall as they'll ever be by 14, the first year of highschool. He chalked it up to taking control of his life with painstaking detail.

[–]fiat_lux_1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Most kids are almost as tall as they'll ever be by 14

That's not true at all. The article itself talks about peak height velocity being 14, on average. He said he hit his own growth spurt at 15. Not exactly wildly off-center. Even if the standard deviation of that age was very low, we'd still expect a cooldown phase of still relatively rapid growth.

He chalked it up to taking control of his life with painstaking detail.

The painstaking detail is what makes me wonder, but that has more to do with gut feeling than logic. From a purely logical perspective, it's fine. He might be overestimating how much of an effect his efforts had, but people can be wrong and still not be intentionally lying.

[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, my senses say huge troll. Obviously, in my workings here on the subreddit, I'm hyper sensitive to trolls though, so YMMV.

[–]fiat_lux_0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then we're not disagreeing on much at all, because as I wrote myself earlier, I don't trust him either.

I just wanted to point out some facts so that we don't actually dismiss honest self-posts here. This sub is full of people who talk about gains and physical improvement, so it can happen. Enough of us should know then that the numbers that OP spouted off are entirely within the realm of possibility during peak growth.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What I don't believe is that he portrayed himself as a stereotypical beta in high school, then all of a sudden he is a sociopath, unaffected by suicide threats, meticulously tracking women, systematically breaking them down then breaking up with them, etc

Anything short of a government psyop program and it ain't happening.

most people who are truly narcissistic / unemotional exhibit those traits towards all people, not simply towards women

This 100%, the charm is nothing but a superficial layer if even that is there.

I'm guessing this guy has read about psychology and is simply trying to emulate this Dark triad traits.

Like a lot of us here.

"I never blink during emotional moments" is kinda wacky IMO.

Agree, it's bullshit, your eyes get dry emotions or no emotions.

since sociopaths and narcissists typically are unable to take other people's opinions into consideration.

Typically maybe, but not in all cases. If you demonstrate high enough value some of them will take your opinion into consideration. It's a spectrum, those furthest along the spectrum are unreachable by any other human. They're so isolated they bond with people by victimising them.

http://illimitablemen.com/the-dark-triad-48/

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet[S] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The guy's account is brand spanking new, and some of his rhetoric is a bit...shifty. My first thought was "This is probably troll bait", but I do know two guys who conducted similar "experiments" and ended up radically changing their lives, so I figured it would be worth posting.

If it turns out he is real, he's an excellent example of natural Red Pill in action. Well, except for the "asking /r/Confession for advice on love" part.

[–]SociopathicFun1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly who I'm talking about

He just doesn't understand the psychological damage he's doing yet.

[–]dvrzero2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're talking about yourself?

Shocking!

[–]SociopathicFun0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well yes, but I think I was more trying to highlight the legion of men like me that will emerge very soon.

[–]ItsYourHandInMine1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hey, have you ever fucked with a woman's mind just for fun? I've done it and all you need is to plant a seed of doubt or insecurity, and their minds do all the work. It took me a week to convince a woman that blonde didn't suit her.

[–]SociopathicFun1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Done it? Hah! It used to be my favourite past time. I used to play for much higher stakes than hair colour though. I still do it a little, but to both sexes.

[–]ItsYourHandInMine1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Go on, give me some tips on how to manipulate people, especially women. What kinds of things did you change about them?

[–]SociopathicFun1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There was one time when I had a girl in my bed. She was upset because she'd just gotten off the phone with her boyfriend who was sick of her shit. I fucked her and she promptly called and abused her boyfriend right after (essentially destroying her relationship)... Then left my house. Funniest thing I ever saw.

I won't give you clear instructions on what I do, because I'd rather people not be aware of how I operate. I'll give you one thing though. Lying to get girls is easy mode. Learn to get what you want by making them lie to themselves.

[–]JasinNat0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is he redpill? Stalking and manipulating women isn't manly it's disturbing. A red pill doesn't need to stalk and manipulate women. You aren't Patrick Boatman.

[–]2johnnight1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This one does not need guidance, but professional therapy.

P.S. TRP is for making boys softened by society into men carved out of wood. TRP applied to psychos is asking for big trouble. We are not qualified to handle this one.

[–]watersign1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

well, to be fair..asians are pretty soulless

[–]omegainvictus0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Asian here. Can confirm.

[–]watersign0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn't a bad thing in my opinion. Theres a reason why Azns make more than every other race..they have lazer like focus and have the natural ability to comprehend complex analytical subjects.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not buying it either.

additions to my collection of the female psyche

It sounds more like a borg than the Terminator.

[–]purecyse0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He's simply treating people like scientific experiments and started with himself. He's like the deranged scientist in his lab working on live human bodies.

After reading that, and SociopathicFun's link, I'm actually a little worried. The depth is unusual but the worldview IS becoming more common as people become more and more disconnected.

[–]SociopathicFun0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You seem to get it so I'll talk to you.

I love how people just cannot fathom that he could be real and how many things they are just so utterly wrong about. He's lying about a few things, but his abilities aren't among those things. I'm sure of this because he exhibits some behaviours that aren't in books yet... Redefinitions of sociopathy you could call them. If I explained what I can do, you all would be just as quick to call bullshit, so I don't care to. To be honest I'd rather people continue to apply outdated definitions of sociopathy to us... It one of our greatest weapons, and a source of great amusement to me.

This ones interesting because he seems to have a very Asian (ie theoretical, studious, tech based) spin on how he's learnt the art as opposed to my own practical, instinctual approach. He has certain similar markers but he has a very unique manifestation. It's fascinating and exactly what I was warning about. We can only be discovered if we come out like him because there is no easily spotted pattern. Even if we announce we're sociopaths there's a big chance we'll be dismissed. We can't be stopped either, the only chance society has is to destroy the conditions that are creating us. Good luck with that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guidance? This guy's awsome! He's pretty much beat the game! Its like beating GTA and having nothing to do afterwards. He doesn't need guidence. He needs to start playing another game.

[–]corylegend0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait wait, so he has the money to invest in electronic bugging equipment both hard and software, but claims to lack the funds to be able to pay for therapy?

It's like maybe 50$ a session to start. If you're truly disturbed it can become a great deal more expensive but this smacks of falsehoods.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If he is telling the truth and not just babbeling about something he read that isn't RP.

It's sociopathic and to be honest i don't belive him.

To become like that there is more seriuos shit needed than just some fucking around with girls.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy#Causes_and_pathophysiology

Though this seems as some kind of goal you'd want to achieve, you really do not be like that.

It's like being colorblind, just with emotions. You know, they are there, you know other people can see them and you can get used to interpreting stuff (like with a traffic light, where you just remember the position of the red light).

Those people feel empty all the time and are always supsicious, because they overinterpret people's actions and always try to find out if those action mean that these people want to do harm to them and how they want to achieve it.

And that is despite the fact, that they are really brilliant at getting into the mind of people, because they had to develop the ability to read people by their behaviour to be able to adopt that behaviour and know how to react and play in certain situations (in the lights of what a apropriate reaction to someones behaviour would be).

That has got nothing to do with being a confident and true alpha male. They might be seen as one, because people tend to give them that status, but they really are not.

And btw: There is no such thing as therapy or cure for this. In fact they tend to just get better in their play there.

Edit: They also always live in the fear of being decloaked as a faker.

[–]SociopathicFun0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're correct and wrong. I won't tell you which parts are which.

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