Quick Question, need objective perspective

HumanSockPuppet · 2013-02-10T19:29:05+00:00

I think fucking a dudes girlfriend is wrong. Red pill doesn't make it right, it just makes is possible, since you know what women are attracted to, and know how to attract them. I've been down this road too. Talking mad shit at a girl you know will fuck you, boyfriend/husband not even a thought.

The guy likely made the "mistake" of being nice, kind, and sweet to his girl which drew her to you. I wouldn't want to be the one who punishes him for it, even if some guy will.

If we're going to admit the nature of women, then we must fulfill our nature of men. As men, we should use our ability to be rational and just to rise above the fray. Who do you think invented systems of morals and justice throughout history? Men trying to build a better society.

I don't think you are an evil person for what you've done or anything, I just want to challenge the idea in the red pill world that just because you can fuck someones girl, doesn't mean you should.

jookato · 2013-02-10T21:04:31+00:00

The Golden Rule is a pretty damn good idea, you know. If everyone followed it, the world would be a lovely place. Of course, very few do, and the world is full of shit, but hey.. each to their own.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to tilt the world's balance just a bit towards being a good place to be in.

[deleted] · 2013-02-10T20:13:41+00:00

Girls, women whatever. Some always like to hold on to one branch while grabbing for another, and, before letting go have a firm hold on the new branch. The morals of this are with this woman not you. If you go with with her you'll know what her morals and ethics are and can expect her to do the very same thing with you. Past behaviour is a good indicator of future behaviour. Fuck her an prove it. At least the dude isn't a mate.

ysef95 · 2013-02-10T22:28:54+00:00

Yeah i guess if she is really "unhappy" in her relationship so much so that she is fucking other guys then the dude is doing something wrong. As you said if you didnt then another guy would have.

However that being said it is still immoral and i wouldnt have done it if it can be helped because I want to be a good man. Its not totally your responsibility but part of the blame is on you.

Ommin · 2013-02-10T23:02:59+00:00

Be careful if you're on the edge of being alpha/beta. I've been with a few girls who I knew had boyfriends, and two of them I ended up in longer relationships with them, only to have them then cheat on me. You have to keep it in your head that they won't change, or if they do it will only be for the worst.

[deleted] · 2013-02-10T20:29:20+00:00

It's not your job to fix someone else's relationship. Telling him, trying to "open his eyes", etc, will all likely be futile.

That said, it's still immoral to be "the other man", even though you don't have any real obligation to the existing relationship.

I was the other man a few times in my 20s and rationalized it away, but it's not something I'm proud of. I would suggest that it's no more difficult to find a woman who is truly available, so there's no reason to lower yourself. I know sometimes the opportunity can literally or figuratively just land in your lap, but you can be a better man than to feel obligated to nail every girl who presents herself.

cubemstr · 2013-02-11T15:01:18+00:00

If you have no reason to actively dislike the guy, I would say you need to treat him as if he's a "bro" you just don't know yet. Like, would you fuck your buddy's gf? Now, that doesn't mean she's not going to go get it from somewhere else, but that's not your problem. All you can control in life are your own decisions. Act the way you want everyone to act.

ultimatebacon · 2013-02-11T15:19:00+00:00

Inform the dude, we need to stand in solidarity!

[deleted] · 2013-03-05T14:02:22+00:00

Bro if she didn't fuck you, she would have fucked someone else. It's her bf's fault.

[deleted] · 2013-02-10T19:34:21+00:00

In a more practical manner, this is how I would handle it.

mrhorrible · 2013-02-10T21:07:33+00:00

I can't answer for you.

But for myself, I've made the decision that sleeping with a girl who's in a relationship counts as cheating. I had a girl cheat on me, and it really sucked. I don't want to make another guy feel like that. If I knew, but slept with her anyway, I'd be just as much to blame.

And that sounds strict- On the flipside, there's nothing wrong with flirting, or even legit going after her. (Sounds kind of demented to say it that way I suppose).

Title	Quick Question, need objective perspective
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Comments	46
Date	February 10, 2013 7:12 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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