Redditors in /r/MMA try to apply the same failed WNBA logic to WMMA

RedSunBlue · 2013-12-02T02:32:29+00:00

This whole argument that "women's MMA can be competitive with men's MMA if given time and exposure" strikes me as laughably inane in all interpretations.

If the arguer means competitive in the sense that one day women will be able to go toe to toe competitively with men of equal training time, why does s/he think that a women's division needs to exist in the first place?

If the arguer means competitive in the sense of ratings/market share, then he hasn't seen the ratings comparisons of men's and women's leagues of the same sports. Men's sports consistently draw more viewers, especially those in which physical contact is paramount.

The only way I see any women's sports being as popular as the male version is if they rely heavily on the sex appeal of the players.

vengefully_yours · 2013-12-02T03:40:14+00:00

Once female fighters start getting paid more, they'll start being able to afford better training, get a deeper talent pool, and start catching up with the guys.

lmao, the only chance women have of competing with men in athletics is taking drugs that effectively make them men.

Sad to think we as a species have not yet fully accepted this.

2013-12-02T09:04:26+00:00

I was working out in the gym the other day and on the screen out of the corner of my eye I saw a hockey game. I knew immediately the players were all girls from a half-glance, even though the camera was way off-ice and their bodies and heads were concealed by their gear. You can tell in less than a half-a-second whether you've got men on the ice or not, without any explicit gender cues, just by the way they skate. Boys and girls are different, despite the totally fucking bizarre feminist compulsion to believe otherwise.

rem0nster · 2013-12-02T08:28:10+00:00

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GushyWetWet15 · 2013-12-02T10:05:03+00:00

what a whiteknight moron that analog guy is.

opturator · 2013-12-02T03:08:42+00:00

Dana White has stated multiple times that the episodes of TUF 18, where women fight, that they pull significantly more viewers then the men. Consequently, he put another womens weight class in the pipeline.

HeadingRed · 2013-12-02T15:47:53+00:00

Here's the problem I see with women's professional sports- women still don't go or watch them. We hear about how women's sports are not funded, not supported etc. Hey ladies- buy tickets! Get the jersey, watch the event. Stop bitching about how only men's sports get any attention when you don't pay attention to women's sports.

Some of the women's MMA matches are pretty good. My GF doesn't like to watch because it's too violent. She doesn't watch WNBA because she's not that into sports.

For me it's simple- women want women's sports to succeed? How about supporting them in the first place.

TRPsubmitter · 2013-12-02T09:03:01+00:00

I have a feeling it will fizzle out and rely on manufactured drama to try and stay relevant.

Like when that Ronda Roosey woman came out and said she could beat Cain Velasquez. Publicity and nothing more. (Hey I would pay to see that fight though lol)

whatever6 · 2013-12-02T07:43:27+00:00

The women on main card UFC fights I have seen were almost all above average in entertainment value. They went after each other like the crazy bitches they are. I don't mind female divisions at all.

TUF is different and it's kind of expected that those fighters are not going to be as good. But this season was terrible. The guys sucked more than the women.

nnDMT420 · 2013-12-02T09:49:01+00:00

Serena Williams basically guaranteed she could beat a top male tennis player. Guy ranked around 100 in the world gave her an ass-whooping. She then said she could beat someone in the top 150... Not happening.

2013-12-02T13:06:19+00:00

People just need to accept the genetic differences between men and women and realize that men will always be overall better athletes.

RedSunBlue · 2013-12-02T19:58:45+00:00

It's something a lot of MMA fans won't admit: women fighters are nowhere near the athletic equals of men. Not even the upper 10% of female athletes gets near a cage, actually. The upper levels of WMMA would be comparable to club fighters in boxing; guys who are good for the neighborhood but not good enough to actually compete with anyone of note. There are so few women fighters that it's easier to make a name, and get into the UFC, than it is for a man at this point.

Ronda Rousey is an Olympic medalist in Judo and there's a clear, pronounced gap in athleticism between her and nearly every other fighter she's faced. She's in that upper 10% and most of WMMA is populated with female fighters without massive, discernable athletic backgrounds.

The WMMA and WNBA gap doesn't even make sense because the WNBA is working with that upper 10% of athletic women over six feet tall. To be a professional women's player you have to have been the best in high school and then the best in college. There's a culling of the herd, so to speak, to get to that level like every other sport.

WMMA can be competitive with the men if given time is true, technically, if you can get tons and tons of really great athletic women to compete.

Manuel_S · 2013-12-03T21:42:39+00:00

Get the mud in, and its a win.

TheeRyanGrey · 2013-12-02T19:58:55+00:00

I love hearing women in the military speak on this because those bitches keep it fucking REAL.

Women's sports is an abject failure because it teaches them nothing that will benefit them in their biological duty of finding the best mate. Teamwork? Fuck no, women work against each other. Physicality? Woof. Leadership? lol.

Little sister wanted to prove she could play with big brother. She can't. Title IX, WNBA, and women's sports in general are an economic drain but no one can mention it because they're afraid of the female backlash.

Title	Redditors in /r/MMA try to apply the same failed WNBA logic to WMMA
Author	RedSunBlue
Upvotes	18
Comments	40
Date	December 2, 2013 2:14 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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