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Remember - women are more insecure and anxious than you are

KingDooble
July 3, 2015
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Title Remember - women are more insecure and anxious than you are
Author

KingDooble
Upvotes 17
Comments 41
Date July 3, 2015 8:15 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3c13mq/remember_women_are_more_insecure_and_anxious_than/
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Comments

[–]friendlysociopathic3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

Last paragraph is bullshit, you just don't have any genuine self confidence.

[–]KingDooble[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

that's a weird judgment to make about a person you've never met based on one paragraph they wrote

[–]friendlysociopathic3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

You claim that it is literally impossible for a man to be naturally confident enough that women find him attractive. "Remember, no matter how successful/awesome you become, you will never attain the bulletproof level of confidence that women are attracted to."

This suggests that you're trying to convince yourself that your own natural lack of confidence is acceptable, and that pretending to be a real man is the best anyone can do. It's not. Make yourself into someone who really does have bulletproof self-confidence - right now you're just a liar.

[–]KingDooble[S] -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

You claim that it is literally impossible for a man to be naturally confident enough that women find him attractive

No that's not what I said. Sorry you can't read. My point was that women are turned off by insecurity, so if you have any insecurity you have to pretend you don't. ]

In any event, that still dosen't explain how you magically know how confident I am.

[–]aboveaveragebabydick3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You're letting your emotion come into play here.

I liked your post, /u/friendlysociopathic is simply making an observation and letting you know you've still got work to do.

In this comment chain, your defensiveness reeks of insecurity.

[–]KingDooble[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're letting your emotion come into play here.

No I still don't think he understood my point. It's my fault for not articulating it well enough.

[–]friendlysociopathic2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you blind? I've copy pasted the exact source quote there. Here it is again.

"Remember, no matter how successful/awesome you become, you will never attain the bulletproof level of confidence that women are attracted to."

How is "it is literally impossible for a man to be naturally confident enough that women find him attractive" not a reasonable interpretation of your statement? You say that no matter what a man does, he can never attain an attractive level of confidence.

Some people have an ability to do something called "reading between the lines", where you use context and prior history with people to make judgements about the traits someone is likely to have based on their actions. After you've been around for a while, you learn to spot what it looks like when someone's bullshitting themselves.

[–]DuncanMonroe0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're dripping with insecure though

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Actually yes, you can reach that level. Not everyone is like your cousin, faking it with gusto because he's never gotten his ass handed to him. Some men do achieve things most won't or can't, they put in the work and overcome the obstacles in their path. You see it in men with experience, and yes it's real.

[–]KingDooble[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Not everyone is like your cousin

Who said they were

Some men do achieve things most won't or can't, they put in the work and overcome the obstacles in their path. You see it in men with experience, and yes it's real.

Even those men deal with fear, anxiety and insecurity. They just don't show it.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You said nobody can be as confident as girls want, and implied that most men just fake it. Men who have been tested, who have overcome great adversity and thrived rather than simply surviving have that confidence. That you're unaware of that fact belies you haven't been tested, haven't overcome some crazy shit that most fail.

Having fear and anxiety doesn't mean you're not confident, it's what you do with the fear and anxiety that makes the difference. Fear is your bitch when you've experienced far worse than this paltry shit, like rejection, who the fuck cares if she says no after you've seen some shit. After you laugh in the face of death, fear is an annoyance at best. Accept you're dead already and there is no fear of it anymore.

Insecurities are something not everyone has, basically it's a fear of being judged. If you don't care what others think, you don't have much need for insecurities. Girls care about what others think, it's incredibly important to them, thus they are riddled with insecurities.

Because you have all those without the overwhelming confidence, doesn't mean others don't. Not everyone can write code, rebuild transmissions, or fly a helicopter, but someone can and has. We are all in different places in life, vastly different experiences, and widely varied knowledge. I know shit you don't and never will, in the same way you know shit I never could. Your confidence is due to your experience, everyone else's is due to theirs. Yes you can be that confident, but not without struggle, adversity, and achievement.

[–]KingDooble[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You said nobody can be as confident as girls want, and implied that most men just fake it.

No I didn't "imply" anything, that's just something you read into it. And what I meant to say was that women are attracted to rock solid confidence. No man can be rock solid confidently 24/7, so if you have some insecurities you have to fake it until you make it. Like I said, I articulated it wrong. The rest of your post is internet tough guy shit I'm not going to respond to.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How many accounts do you have?

[–]KingDooble[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh I'm interested into why you think that

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

As far as itg stuff, you can assume that, and since you do it is incredibly obvious that you're one of the untested that lacks confidence. What are you, 16 or so?

[–]KingDooble[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

what's the point of posts like this? I'm not going to have a debate on the internet with a guy who claims he feels no fear. This is silly.

[–]vengefully_yours0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No fear? Are we speaking the same language? Damn, you never have been tested, or done anything. It's obvious since you can't comprehend what I said. It's what you do with fear that makes the difference. Everyone else runs because they're afraid, you close with the target and engage at close range. No worries, you'll never experience that in moms basement.

[–]KingDooble1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Look "vengefully yours" I guess that being an angry dickhead is your schtick but I am not going to have this ridiculous conversation with you. I can't take a guy seriously who writes "After you laugh in the face of death, fear is an annoyance at best." I just can't do it, bra. I highly doubt you have ever "laughed in the face of death." Sorry. If you have, please provide some evidence. And then I will tell when I was "tested" or "done things." Otherwise, fuck off. I have no patience for internet thugs.

[–]vengefully_yours0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Who is angry? You sure are defensive, which also shows you've done jack shit.

Brief summary for ya. I'm 46, first war was 1990-91, worked nearly to death pre invasion in the airlift, then deployed to have a wonderful time in the sand. You don't warrant any war stories. Second war was 04, came back fucked up from that one. Only been two years since I could walk right without excruciating pain.

Older brother tried to kill me multiple times growing up. I've been poisoned, stabbed, run over, bludgeoned, many things thrown at my head, beatings daily from him or my dad, usually both. He started a rumor in school that I was gay, which resulted in many beatings and fights until I was 16, then beat his ass, knocked my dad out, and the bullshit stopped.

Death has been inches from me so many times in my life I simply don't care anymore. I've had PTSD since I was a kid, and the events of my life have made me rather strong physically and mentally. You won't believe what I can lift, but bare Pontiac 400 blocks and Th400 transmissions are things I lift easily and put on rebuilding stands. If you met me in person, you would move out of my path and not make eye contact. Hardly anyone acts different.

Evidence of this? No, you won't get my 214, nor anything that can identify me, because my younger brother has quite a bit to lose, whereas I don't. There isn't much evidence of the abuse other than how I am, and honestly I don't give a fuck if you believe me. You don't matter, you're unimportant, and the fact you think nobody can be confident enough to attract bitches says everything about you. Scared little boy, hasn't done shit, because if you had you'd understand.

My life fucking sucked, but I made myself into something you'll never be. The reason for that is because you're afraid of everything. There's two things I fear, and they're the same thing in different means. Quadriplegic and life incarceration. I'll take death before either of those.

Edit a word

[–]KingDooble1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Brief summary for ya. I'm 46, first war was 1990-91, worked nearly to death pre invasion in the airlift, then deployed to have a wonderful time in the sand. You don't warrant any war stories.

Thank you for your service, but seriously, shut the fuck up.

Second war was 04, came back fucked up from that one.

Yeah you obviously are still fucked up, which is why you are yelling at people on the internet.

My life fucking sucked, but I made myself into something you'll never be.

Sorry for your shitty life, thank you for your military service, but seriously, shut the fuck up. You have no idea who I am or what I can do. You are seriously insanely angry, which is why are you taking this thread so seriously. Go away and get therapy or do mushrooms or something.

[–]vengefully_yours0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Your insecurities are showing, this means far more to you than it does to me. Why so afraid?

[–]Sir_Shitlord_focker1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Just curious, what's your basis for saying this ? I have a sister who's a fat slob, she likes to eat in front of her favorite tv show and has a minimum wage job or is unemployed all the time. She's always totally relaxed and high....

She doesn't strike me as a mess of nerves...

[–]DuncanMonroe2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's because she's high. Also, she never goes anywhere or does anything. It's hard to have significant anxiety if you're sitting in your house with nothing to do and no responsibilities.

[–]NimbleStorm 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's got nothing to be anxious about it seems. She should be a pool noodle, it's an easy life.

[–]Sir_Shitlord_focker0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah but there's like 15% of all girls her age are always high now... I know I sell them the stuff :D And it goes up every day, soon it will be like tobacco.

[–]widec0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the things that runs through my mind if I ever have approach anxiety. I know that it's much worse for women, so I naturally end up making the first move.

Another thing that really helps me is telling myself that even if I get rejected, they're going to be flattered that I even made a move in the first place. Turns approaching into more of a win-win situation. If I succeed I get the girl, if I don't at least I made someone's day a bit better.

[–]BrunoOh0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

women have so much anxiety they never approach men

They do, and if they don't then your SMV is too low.

[–]RP152 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They do not approach like men do, with openers and witty comments, etc. They will ask a question if there is a socially excusable reason to ask you that question or they will stand in your way and look at their phones. The bold ones will brush by you when they walk by, the bolder will bump into you in a crowded area, and the bolder still will rub their breasts on you when they walk by - all in the hopes that you will notice them and hit on them

[–]gideonrakthor3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I agree, its exactly the same as what most people who have gained a significant amount of muscle mass experience. They get many more opportunities with women in general. The more attractive you look, the more women will go out of their way to get you to notice them - but that's all they'll do.

[–]KingDooble[S] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Women generally only approach men if they are desperate or crazy. Also its retarded to think that a man's SMV is clearly visible to women like women's is to men.

[–]asianmasaccount0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think what the other dude means is they start giving you IOIs.

Great article btw. Never thought of it that way before.

[–]Thursday0880 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree to an extent, but don't kid yourself it's not impossible, I get signals and passes made at me every day and I'm working a shit job and about half the SMV I was when I was in college playing ball.

[–]BrunoOh0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Okay, let me clarify, they don't approach like men do. They just start hanging around/open you and still expect you to do all the "work".

Also its retarded to think that a man's SMV is clearly visible to women like women's is to men.

They can smell betatude and some indicators like your face, muscularity, posture and height can't be faked.

[–]makethemsayayy -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think this is why it's so fucking annoying when girls gush over a hot guy and say what they'd "let him do to her".

Like stop acting brash and badass, you're passive in the whole encounter waiting to be acted upon.

I also just don't think it's becoming of women to gush over guys. It's annoying.

[–]SplashArtist-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I probably have way more anxiety than the average girl. So, I would have to say this post is bullshit. Anxiety is a human issue, not a gender issue.

[–]aboveaveragebabydick0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Have you looked into meds? The average girl is more insecure than the average guy.

[–]SplashArtist0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Fuck meds ill deal with it lol. I actually take it back though girls always be stressing about dumb shit. I just have an actual anxiety disorder but dont stress the way most women do. A bit different in my opinion.

[–]aboveaveragebabydick0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Comments like "fuck meds" are ignorant. It's 2015, medicine has come a long way. That thought process is what took me so long to try antidepressants. Antidepressants saved my life, if anxiety is a real problem, talk to a professional.

[–]SplashArtist0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No it isn't. I've tried meds dude and they didn't do shit. At best, they numb the feelings and don't get to the root of the issue at all. I've dealt with it pretty well on my own.

[–]aboveaveragebabydick0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like you don't have real anxiety problems

[–]SplashArtist0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If diagnosed OCD isnt a 'real' anxiety disorder then i agree with you. It has brought me to the depths of bad depression a few times, but ill keep chugging away. Meds arent for me I would rather meditate and eat a clean diet. That doesnt mean they dont give others relief though.

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