RP thoughts on the seemingly backwards development of the middle east

MasterBaiterX · 2014-09-01T01:04:19+00:00

I don't get the question, RP is a sexual strategy/lifestyle change, I don't see how it could be applied to politics.

I mean it's simple, the USSR was trying to spread out and take over everything they could while the USA was trying to halt the spread of the USSR through their containment policy started after WWII.

Afghanistan was just one of the many many proxy warzones in the Cold war(Korea, Latin America, China, Vietnam, etc). During Operation Cyclone by the CIA the USA armed the freedom fighters with Russian weaponry, trained them, but focused on giving Islamic fundamentalists the majority of the support to make it appear as a religious uprising. This is all documented.

So what would soon become the Taliban fought off the USSR, were forced to return the hard hitting things like Stinger missiles they were given for the Russian choppers, and went on to turn Afghanistan into a Shariah hellhole, all because of the USSR and the USA.

It's not an evolution in culture, it was foreign intervention by the USA and the USSR. What is happening right now in the middle east is yet again foreign intervention, this time the USA being the catalyst and Russia providing some aid, although it's very limited.

One could ask themselves why the USA is doing what they're doing, but you would be delving into unfounded theories, but history will tell. My opinion is the entire point of Arab Spring and the USA helping these "freedom fighters" and then ISIS using this aid to form the IS, is to balkanize the middle east and split it down ethnic lines. Shia VS Sunni VS Kurds, of course to help Israel and weaken any help coming to Iran from Shia governments, and as a result massively weakening Russias grasp on the Middle East.

It is no coincidence this is all happening during this stuff in Ukraine. Which is again the Western proxies VS Russia.

Tl;Dr: It's not evolution, it's devolution because of meddling superpowers, the cold war never ended it just took a break.

just_pizza · 2014-09-01T12:49:11+00:00

You need to understand two things about Afghanistan

'rights' are not a gender thing. they are a power and money thing. If you have money and power, regardless of your gender, you get away with anything. even murder. In lots of these countries, the problem is not a men's or women's right problem but more of a corrupt justice system problem
Tribes, sects, etc play a huge role in everything and honor, which leads to many men killing their sisters, daughters, wives etc, is a real thing that has gone on for ages in both old and current Afghanistan. It just isn't highlighted as much.

When war came to Afghanistan, the rich and powerful had the means to flee to USA and European countries, taking their modern ways with them. That left the people who you see today in charge of things. They are religious people but religion is an excellent tool to use in both politics and war. It was used freely and the masses who are mostly illiterate and rely on a single person per village to read to them and write everyday letters trust religious clerics who can preach what they want.

This isn't simple about a country doing a 180 on women's rights. Men suffered just as much if not more. They were killed, wounded and left unable to support families which is the death of any honorable Afghan man in itself. They say their children die or be tortured. Women were raped, yes but no one talks about the TTP's preference to rape young boys.

In short, this isn't about a country changing how it treats women. It's about people deciding who does and who doesn't deserve to be treated as a human.

I don't know if you like fiction or not, but give And The Mountains Echoed by Khalid Hosseni a read. Be warned; if you have a brother you love to bits, this isn't something for you. I learned that the hard way.

Diddlydangerous · 2014-09-01T05:21:53+00:00

I'm sorry, but I think you must have a very deep misunderstanding about the US and the middle east. Do you realize how badly men and women have both been duped by the feminist movement? Turning a significant percentage of potentially marriageable women into women who have sex without commitment (otherwise known as sluts) and who have to work full-time to support themselves might sound like equality, but it's a pretty lousy thing to do, both for them and the men that may have once had the aspiration of marrying one of them.

Allow me to quote a passage by the author Oleg Novoselov:

"First of all, your usual, normal woman will never “fight for her rights.” She simply has no need to – she’s already in a privileged position. She’s sitting around in the most cozy, abundant, and safe place on the planet – at home. She’s busy with her favorite activity – looking after her children and her own comfort. She’s provided for by her beloved man, the father of her children. Fighting for rights equal to a man’s would mean fighting to be deprived of the traditional women’s privileges she so enjoys – in other words, it would be a completely stupid thing to do. Take a look at Arab women. They just laugh at the feminists’ call to arms, and they have nothing but pity for single, childless American women who have to work for a living.

The only women who stand to benefit from having equal rights with men are the ones who don’t have a man to serve as a source of resources and women’s privileges, i.e. the women who haven’t become self-actualized as women. They’ve got no one to bring home the bacon. They’re sexually unsatisfied. They’re offended. They’re mad at the world. They’re aggressive. So they hate men, and they’re jealous of successful women who have children and a man to provide for them. I’ve seen plenty of cases where a single woman, foaming at the mouth, stood up for equal rights for men and women. But the instant she finally found a man, she forgot all about feminism and became a happy wife and mother."

Arab women laugh at American women. The sluts. Seriously. If you had the opportunity to stay at home all day and have someone else take care of you, wouldn't you prefer that to having to go out and work? Tell me, exactly what discovery did we make that told us that girls were now allowed to be boys? The internet may have allowed for different women to transmit their ideas at a faster rate, but the game-plan for them evolutionarily has been just God awful, only benefiting the old, ugly women who just want to increase their numbers at all cost, society be damned.

exit_sandman · 2014-09-01T11:28:26+00:00

The rundown: several decades ago, the area was ahead of the US in terms of women's lib.

Wishful thinking to the max. The soviet-backed rulers might have been big on progress and education for girls, but that doesn't mean that this mentality has permeated the whole country. Do you think the Taliban appeared out of nowhere? The guerilla warfare against the Russians might have vindicated them, and added plenty of jihad-minded foreigners to their ranks, but at the end of the day many if not most of them had their roots within tribal Afghan society, where girls as young as 10 could be married of to some guy older than her father.

I guess the guys who say that Afghanistan was ahead in terms of women's lib are victims of their own nostalgia filter when they used to do drugs back in the day (Afghanistan was a haven for potheads and worse).

TheRabid · 2014-09-01T01:04:21+00:00

Religion is usually bad in extreme forms.

frostfire1337 · 2014-08-31T23:54:37+00:00

This is what happens when betas go without sex their entire lives, or just get a little of it. One day, someone comes along, and promises sex with up to four wives, and no more teasing and everything the alphas get naturally. The catch? Pick up an uzi and follow me!

The result is that now the women have been oppressed and destroyed, higher learning is in shambles, and the entire society is devolving towards the 7th century. To all fellow red pillers out here, when you have daughters, if you do not teach them the fundamental things about how to choose a good guy, and break the paradigm that causes red pill to work for us over the betas, the betas in america will one day snap and revert to something. It probably wont be islam, it might be radical christianity, racism or the straight up KKK, but they will snap. And when they snap, our environment is going to change very quickly. Think of it as beta warming instead of global warming.

Title	RP thoughts on the seemingly backwards development of the middle east
Author	ferwick
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Date	August 31, 2014 11:18 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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