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Science proving the Red Pill right again. Study of 1,000 brain scans confirms men and women's brains are wired differently.

StandOrDie

December 3, 2013
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Title Science proving the Red Pill right again. Study of 1,000 brain scans confirms men and women's brains are wired differently.
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StandOrDie

Upvotes 79
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Date December 3, 2013 7:30 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Coping with gender stereotypes in the world is difficult enough without having scientists telling us that our bloody brains are doing it all wrong, too.

It's dangerous when neuroscience starts moving merely from stating what is 'the norm' to defining what is normative.

What on Earth is this guy trying to say? It sounds like he's implying that neuroscienctists shouldn't report their findings if (and only if) they imply an innate difference between the sexes.

Let's imagine that he gets his way. Five years later, he and his cohorts would proudly declare "See? There's no science that supports differences between the brains of men and women!"

actually this study seems to imply that the differences are not wired from birth: they arise later on, due to the effects of society shaping the brain when it's most plastic, during childhood and adolescence.

Someone didn't read the article. Someone only knows how to repeat their spoon-fed feminist slogans. From the article:

"If you look at functional studies, the left of the brain is more for logical thinking, the right of the brain is for more intuitive thinking. So if there's a task that involves doing both of those things, it would seem that women are hardwired to do those better," Verma said. "Women are better at intuitive thinking. Women are better at remembering things. When you talk, women are more emotionally involved – they will listen more."

She added: "I was surprised that it matched a lot of the stereotypes that we think we have in our heads. If I wanted to go to a chef or a hairstylist, they are mainly men."

She literally said "hardwired".

Ahhh, but that doesn't matter! Changes in brain chemistry coinciding with the flood of sex hormones during puberty are certainly a social construct.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The study itself: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/11/27/1316909110

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

It is a sad day when a study has to prove this.

[–]Cypher21122 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

If you read through the comments some people are still refusing to accept it...

[–]WasteAmez7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Remember when at least liberals respected science?

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Everybody respects science until it disagrees with them.

[–]WasteAmez0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But on the other hand, that's not true. The illuminati used to exist, and they never disagreed with anyone.

[–]CUNTBERT_RAPINGTON1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm a liberal and I respect this science.

[–]Inexplicably_Hostile0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're getting downvoted for identifying as a liberal.

Hilarious.

[–]_MrMan_-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea people are going to believe whatever they want to believe. Both sides can find little studies that support them.

It just makes much more sense to me that our brains would be different, so we complement each other better for survival. Opposites attract for a reason. "We fill gaps" - Rocky.

Many of the comments still think these changes are brought on by "society". As if we don't change a whole lot during puberty, mainly related to sexual desire. While nurture plays a small role I'm sure it's fucking crazy to me to completely disregard nature. Most, myself included, think it's a mix of both but that's all that's needed to confirm the red pill. Different brains and hormones mean we react to different shit.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the Grauniad, what do you expect?

[–]Clauderoughly27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Another huge hole punched in feminist theory.

We are not the same, not even close.

They'll never admit it though. Science and logic are tools of the patriarchy.

[–]Redpillc0re4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

SHOCKED!

[–]ScannerSloppy3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Philadelphia Inquirer had a particularly obnoxious headline for this story in the print edition, something like "It's Official: Men's Brains are Miswired!" I found the story on the online edition, but the headline had been changed to something more subtle.

[–]AWiseBro11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I worry that this result could be quite easily misinterpreted by misogynists who like to claim that men and women are 'just different', whereas actually this study seems to imply that the differences are not wired from birth: they arise later on, due to the effects of society shaping the brain when it's most plastic, during childhood and adolescence.

Lol I bet this person also thinks society is what causes women to grow breasts as they go through puberty

[–]Clauderoughly8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

they arise later on, due to the effects of society shaping the brain when it's most plastic

I want to smack that commenter with a cricket bat... with PUBERTY written on it, in big black letters.

[–]AWiseBro5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's amazing that some people can ignore the painfully obvious when it doesn't fit their view points. Nature clearly hardwires men and women differently and it's not anyone's fault, it's just the way it is. It would be much better for society as whole if everyone could just accept this and adapt.

[–]Clauderoughly2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but then you get feminist leaders squealing like stuck pigs.

It happens that 90% of feminist leaders are lesbians. Traditional roles really don't benefit them at all, because the have the drives of men, but the abilities of women.

[–]otisofro14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Look, naturally we're wired for survival purposes. Logically this has it's baseline i.e. the brain we're born with and to an extent the brain that develops up until the end of puberty. Men are generally better at perception and women are generally better at multi-tasking. It's a fact haha! Given neuroplasticity, if a Woman was say to train and become a darts player for example, then over a short space of time her brain would start rewiring to be able to continually become better at that particular skill. Similarly if a Man became a single parent, you better believe his brain will rewire to handling multi-tasking more. Whatever you think and do, your brain reacts to that and changes accordingly given repetition and the signal of importance in the event. Being chased by a tiger would result in faster brain changes than your schoolmate chasing you, because of memory strength, the stress of the event etc etc.

One of the comments had a bit of truth to it

[–]The_smartest_man_evr10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Can't remember where I read this, probably here. Nobody actually multi- tasks, you just switch from one part of your brain to another, back and forth for the task at hand. Women are quicker at this switching because they need it for looking after a number of small children at once.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Our brains are serial in nature. We process conscious events one at a time. We just do it fucking fast!

Women can do soft context switches more efficiently than men, but they don't invest deep levels of concentration into any one context field. Men suffer more fatigue from context switches because of the deep level of concentration they set to each individual field.

In my experience women have no empathy for the fatigue they inflict on men when they force them into a hard context switch. Women project onto men that interrupting them won't be a big deal because men couldn't be devoting more concentration to a particular task than would women.

A five minute interruption can cause up to an hour of concentration recovery time for me.

[–]The_smartest_man_evr0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well said. That obviously has a lot to do with girls getting on great in school and boys not doing as well as them....what do I do when it the time comes to put my sons into these femme factories??? "sorry son, best I can do" I want to home school them but I'm worried they'll grow up to be socially inept!

[–]enticingasthatmaybe2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Private schools, particularly religious ones, are still fairly safe from feminism (at least here in the south). I absolutely loath the Catholic Church but I fully support my daughter being educated in their school system if only for the provided insulation from feminist rot.

[–]Clauderoughly1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Given neuroplasticity,

This study punches a huge hole in that theory. Brains, once developed aren't as neuroplastic as the commenter would think.

if a Woman was say to train and become a darts player for example, then over a short space of time her brain would start rewiring to be able to continually become better at that particular skill.

Yes, but on her best day, she'd still be beaten by most men because we have better strength, and hand to eye co-ordination

Similarly if a Man became a single parent, you better believe his brain will rewire to handling multi-tasking more.

Or, he would find ways to do the work, and look after the kids that didn't involve nearly as much multi tasking, and involved more planned work. There are many ways to skin a cat.

Being chased by a tiger would result in faster brain changes

Except that evolution has selected that sort of thing for males, we were the ones chased by the big dangerous animals, women just sat around waiting for the men to bring back the meat, and then rewarded the most successful ones, with reproductive ability.

Edit: Spelling

[–]otisofro-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if a Woman was say to train and become a darts player for example, then over a short space of time her brain would start rewiring to be able to continually become better at that particular skill.

Yes, but on her bets day, she'd still be beaten by most men because we have better strength, and hand to eye co-ordination

agreed

Similarly if a Man became a single parent, you better believe his brain will rewire to handling multi-tasking more.

Or, he would find ways to do the work, and look after the kids that didn't involve nearly as much multi tasking, and involved more planned work. There are many ways to skin a cat.

even more agreed

[–]ToBecomeSuperHuman 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XjUFYxSxDk I remember watching this video years ago. Still great.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The article is more interesting than the research, going on and on about how women are better at this and better at that as a result of their brain organization. And yet there is not a mention of what men might be better at. It appears that we've reached a point where not only can you not say anything bad about women; it's politically incorrect to even suggest that there might be anything good about men.

[–]thebigspooner1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No, there are examples. Read it carefully.

Although subtle:

The scans showed greater connectivity between the left and right sides of the brain in women, while the connections in men were mostly confined to individual hemispheres. The only region where men had more connections between the left and right sides of the brain was in the cerebellum, which plays a vital role in motor control. "If you want to learn how to ski, it's the cerebellum that has to be strong," Verma said.

[–]Party_Liquor 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is obviously just another tool of Teh Patriarchytm to oppress womyn. Anyway, it doesn't apply to me...I'm a unique, special, snowflake. My daddy told me so.

[–]Hajimotto -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Research cannot "prove" anything. The idea of "proving" anything is fundamentally impossible and contradictory to all tenets of science. It is a personal pet peeve of mine, but I cannot stand quiet when people bastardize science. "Proving" something in scientific realm suggests that we fundamentally know something to always be true and have infallible evidence to support the claim. Both of these are impossible to have. Science only works when we all the possibility that everything has the potential to be incorrect. Every scientific law, theory and idea you know has an accepted limitation value and the ability to have contrary evidence to be shown. What this research suggests and this should be titled, "Research has provided statistical evidence to suggests that male and female brains act differently." Nothing is proven here and nothing in science will ever be proven.

[–]1PaulRivers10-4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This study - like all the "brains are different" studies - is just silly "get headlines" fluff.

I think it was Scott Adams (from dilbert) who said something like - All those studies that show that one kind of persons brain is different than anothers? Well no shit - the brain is the tool you use for thinking. Obviously if all people are not the same, then different peoples brains are different. I'd also wager to guess that your grandmothers computer hard drive is "physically" different than a teenage boys - of course it is, they're different people with different things they do with the computer. And likewise, different people who use their brains differently are going to have differences in their brains. Duh.

To quote something else - http://www.dnalc.org/view/1200-Identical-Twins-Not-Identical-Brains.html

"Professor Eric Kandel explains that although identical twins have identical genes, different life experiences mean they do not have identical brains."

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