Short guy perspective and questions

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-04-15T22:33:59+00:00

I'm short around 5'3. Most of the girls i date are taller than me. You have to be on point and your game has to be tighter than the average height guys which won't be hard because you're red pill. Basically if you're out with a girl on a casual date chances are your height doesn't matter to her and she probably thinks you're cute. That's what I've learned.

I have met women that have disqualified me right out the gate because she only dates guys that are 5'10. It will happen but fuck it.

Interestingly, I've got horrible luck with really short girls (4'11-5'2), they all seem to want tall guys. I do best with women taller than me lol.

2013-04-16T00:31:49+00:00

Style is 5'6 and Bald.

r_rships_account · 2013-04-15T22:06:34+00:00

i don't know if this will make you feel better but i'm 5'7 on a good day but really good-looking and girls still hit on me all the time, even if they're taller.

i don't know how short you are though, but 5'7 is the absolute shortest height a guy can be before it gets bad. (trust me on this one) not saying you can't score but below that height and your shortness becomes a defining characteristic (unfortunately). you'll be known as the short guy, the first thing people will say when describing you is that you're short.

so, if you're 5'7 or taller than being short won't really get in the way at all and you're over-thinking it. but if you are shorter than that, it's an absolute unavoidable fact and there's no way people will not notice that, but a lot of girls aren't so shallow that they won't date you.

my point is, either way it really doesn't matter because there's nothing you can do. some girls will reject you because of it. some don't care. we just have a smaller dating pool that gets smaller as we do, that's all.

oh and don't ever mention your income as a qualification. it's great because you must be successful to achieve that kind of wealth, but you're so much more than your money. that's the least important thing about you, remember that.

Bobsutan · 2013-04-15T22:26:52+00:00

I'm 5'6" and change. My current gf is 13 years younger and 5'7" and some change. With heels she's almost 6' tall. I've never had trouble with taller women and you know why? Because I'm fairly well built, have a strong personality, make good money. Translation: I hit the safety & protector buttons, plus the provider one as well.

Women are attracted to tall mainly because of the feelings involved. Make a woman feel those emotions and your height won't matter except for those handful of women out there who absolutely have it in their head that they won't date someone with xyz trait.

You make good money, now you need to make them feel safe and secure. Being built goes a LOOONNNG way to doing that. I can pick my gf up and toss her around like a ragdoll and she knows it because I've done in from time to time. If you can pick a woman up and spin her around resulting in her squealing with delight, I'd say you're good to go.

Now you said you've hit the gym and were in shape, but did you actually manhandle a woman like I'm talking about where you can make her excited by your physical prowess? No? Then you're doing it wrong. Sometimes you've just gotta go caveman.

2013-04-16T04:52:03+00:00

The usual self improvement ideas (like being in shape by lifting weights or acting confident) have very little effect in my experience.

While I agree, short guys are at an inherent disadvantage when it comes to women, they can get gym results much more quickly than tall guys. Short guys can bulk up much faster, and they can lift much heavier weights at a smaller body size, and get the bragging rights for that as well. Plus they are better at a lot of strength based sports: gynmastics for instance.

Tall guys have to put in 3-4x the gym work to scult a decent body, they are more injury prone, and they will never get the raw numbers that the shorter guys hit: 5-6x my body weight as a deadlift? Never going to happen at my height. Ring work in gymnastics? Forget it. Break dancing? Forget it. Not that I'd trade being shorter for the ability to do these things, just pointing out that there are areas where being short is great.

Also, it really depends on how short you are. The guy that taught me game was only 5'9'', and he was alpha to the fucking core. Being too short was never the reason a girl rejected him. I've met other guys shorter than him with a decent selection of women as well. Although I'll admit, being in Japan is advantageous for shorter guys as well, because there are plenty of short women here (this might be an option for u to consider).

There is a point where guys are just plain way too short though, sub 5'3'' and you're getting to the point where there are practically no women you can hit on shorter than you, which is extreme hardmode, although not impossible. If this is your situation, you're going to have to resign yourself to the fact that harem building is simply going to be extemely difficult. This isn't a reason to stop hitting the gym and looking good. Even at this height you'll find decent girls that are OK with you being short ~ you sure as fuck won't find them if you give up though.

SenorSwagDaddy · 2013-04-16T00:01:30+00:00

HI, first time here on The Red Pill, just passing through but I saw your post and it really hit home for me. I have been there, exactly where you have been. I am 5ft 5" but unfortunately I am not wealthy in the slightest. I am a student currently with a huge debt and a part time job.

First you have to get over your paranoia of being short. If you make it something you're uncomfortable with, others will pick up on it. Best thing is to take the short jokes and everything with a pitch of salt and even make fun of it your self.

Realise you are you. Everyone has at least one thing they don't like about them selves. yours is your hight.

Use what you have got. IF you are wealthy that's great but personally I really don't get a long with girls who are only after wealthy guys. If your funny that great. Smart? Awesome. Sure the first thing humans notice about each other are looks but, if you are well dressed, smiling and look like you have confidence you will attracted attention.

I personally go out with girls who are around my hight or smaller. I have been out with taller girls and it just wasn't right for me. I always think that when approaching a girl if she turns me down, she is the one missing out. I think this comes back to confidence. Don't be over confidence. Don't be a dick and don't be cocky. Just be sure of your self and witty.

If you end up on a date. half the battle has already been won, she is there and obviously she doesn't care about your height as she said yes already.

I hope this helps. From one short ass to another, i bid you good look!

eshlow · 2013-04-16T00:58:46+00:00

You should read more from Danny from 504... he's 5'4"

http://dannyfrom504.wordpress.com/

I realize you said that lifting weights, acting confident, etc are not helping... and that's because you're faking it.

This is a lifestyle and mindset. You can't fake it. Analyze your behavior and make changes. Break things down into smaller steps.

Start with only working on good posture for a week. Once you have that down, work on your smile or eye contact.

It doesn't necessarily have to be... posture, smile, eye contact, go approach and try to get numbers, etc all right away. Baby steps.

The journey, much like fitness, is all about consistency. Small and even non-noticable changes will add up over time. It's easy to get discouraged, but push through.

2013-04-16T00:07:51+00:00

It's our burden my man; it sucks hard but we've gotta deal with it. I think we screw ourselves because when alot of shorties finally land a girl, we jump in headfirst and get all clingy and such. HOWEVER... while being a chump short guy is an absolute kiss of death, be judicious with your application of red pill concepts, lest you be labeled Napoleon. I'm not much of a plate spinner - I prefer sex within relationships - but I'd advise playing it as cool as you can. Have a rolodex of interesting and thought/conversation-provoking topics, and show how "different" you are than 6' guy who has women throwing themselves at him. Of course, this is after you've gotten yourself in shape, dressed well*, and making decent money. I'm not saying you'll be Don Juan, but you can do it, my friend. And I don't know about you, but one of my main drivers is the fatties who always seem to think that because I'm short I'm desperate enough to screw around with them. Godspeed.

*Oh, the torment of finding clothes that fit for the short male. Once again, we just gotta put in more work for it. Sorry.

betaprime · 2013-04-16T03:03:09+00:00

Shop at Jimmy Au's For Men 5-8 And Under http://www.jimmyaus.com/jimmyaus/

INTJurassic · 2013-04-16T23:02:39+00:00

I got a new number yesterday in the library. Got another today in the parking lot. I also had a girl take me out for sushi today (she paid). Tomorrow night I have a girl coming over to get fucked a bunch of times, sleep with me, then leave in the morning.

I'm 5'6.

2013-04-16T00:03:05+00:00

I have a short friend who is 5'4, but he's always cracking jokes and happy. The guy gets laid pretty often.

RedSunBlue · 2013-04-16T07:54:03+00:00

Solution: Move to Viet Nam.

The food is great, the women are foxy, and the average height of Vietnamese men is 5'4".

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-04-16T05:43:56+00:00

Get some cowboy boots. Or shit kickers. Something with heels.

I'm 5'11 so not really sure how to play the lack of height situation.

2013-04-16T13:57:27+00:00

It's mostly mental hombre. Just work on your posture, get mega-jacked, and dress with style. I'm fairly short and it's just never been an obstacle but then I've never had a complex about it.

dandsed · 2013-04-16T00:10:20+00:00

Oh c'mon, I was drinking beer with this short ass 5,2 douchey looking guy when this hot ass British girl comes by and talks to us for awhile. She's a good 6 feet and quite presice. I mentioned a desire to fornicate on that compost forth which the broseph uttered his Bellous proclamation of having reciveth Noisette violations with saideth women. Be fairly buff..the dude even had braces at 23...I mean c'mon wtf.

chronicvape · 2013-04-17T09:43:33+00:00

Wow.. I'm basically on 6 foot and never even considered that my shorter bros would feel paranoia about their height :s ..

Title	Short guy perspective and questions
Author	throwaway041513c
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Date	April 15, 2013 9:47 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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