Stoicism and other ideological things

halbo · 2015-09-23T22:54:03+00:00

I'm a muslim and I find redpill ideas in line with islam apart from sex outside of marriage. You can marry up to 4 as a man though.

Islam's ideas on women would probably make you think Muslims are misogynist.

One politically incorrect that comes to mind is that women are not as reliable as men when they are considered witnesses. I think it was 2 women=1 man. Before trp, I wouldn't make any sense out of this but I see now how true it is.

Maybe I'm not that good of a muslim given that I don't go around shooting people.

Also I find stoicsm really interesting and I try hard to be one.

gentlebranch · 2015-09-23T19:47:12+00:00

It's all the same thing- a warrior mentality.

Touched upon in so many philosophies and spiritual traditions.

The gist of it is humans are failures, have no control over their lives, never do what they want to do in life, and die regretful. This includes everyone.

The warrior is someone who trains himself to be strong enough to be truly free. Can not be held down, can not be made afraid (of failure, or death), fulfills his divine or higher purpose, and is mature and integrated and not a dick and stuff. Like the eastern notion of self defense, not interested in hurting anyone but being strong enough to defend himself.

So this is Neechee's superhuman, a stoic, a zen warrior, a native american warrior conceptually. It's a super-human. There's a lot of overlap with spirituality with this level of self development. You can even includes saints and prophets as people who have done this, and more. In their case, they've mastered themselves, fearlessness, and happiness, and then devoted themselves to helping other people.

Right now this is something I really need in my life, since I'm stuck in a depression, with "nothing to do," don't need to work or got to school and I'm simply wasting away each day on food and video games.

jayj59 · 2015-09-24T08:53:06+00:00

I'm a Christian. Most of the stuff here is absolute gold, and pretty in line with traditional teachings, and it all works, save the constant casual sex. The biggest thing is constant self improvement, which falls in line with Colossians 3:23 "in everything you do, work heartily, as though for the Lord and not for man". In other words, don't be satisfied with where you are. Get better, work harder, be smarter.

ColmM36 · 2015-09-24T12:42:55+00:00

A school of thought I'm a fan of, though I'm not a far right idealist of, is antinatalism. Basically, its a pessimistic philosophy that's main basis is one that assigns a negative value to birth and being alive in general. A good starting point is Thomas Ligottis book "Conspiracy against the human Race", a book that details how man's reason for being man, his consciousness, is also his downfall. We cannot live simple lives like other animals, because we can think of what might happen in the future, leading to worry and stress. Therefore, the proposed remedy for this is to stop reproducing, to "stop blindly following orders that nature has forever been barking out".

Another topic is the idea of birth. We didn't ask to be born. As Rust Cohle put it, can you imagine the hubris to pluck a soul out of non existence and complete contentment, and drop it into....this? What gives us the right to take someone from a place where they do not exist, and therefore cannot suffer, into a place where they may feel good, but are more or less guaranteed to suffer?

This book won't help with game, or finances, or how you look, but it opened my eyes. It made me realise the insignificance of material life, hedonism, and helped to strengthen my Stoic values.

reddit_sucks2 · 2015-09-23T22:15:55+00:00

"The Cosmos is all that is or was or ever will be." And of course, "We are a way for the universe to know itself.". - Carl Sagan

Everything that is created will eventually be destroyed. Science came to this conclusion due to entropy and the laws of thermodynamics. The hindu's knew this for thousands and possibly tends of thousands of years with one of the main gods being an embodiment of destruction, a constant reminder that nothing lasts forever.

I believe the red pill is rediscovered theory and principals that folds neatly into one of the infinite crevices of the hindu pantheon.

"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe..." - Terence Mckenna

Cruel_Man · 2015-09-25T02:34:35+00:00

I wrote a big post that somehow never got through, but the gist of it was to consider literary non-fiction works like Wind, Sand & Stars, The Snow Leopard, Endurance, The Worst Journey in the World, Starlight and Storm - basically men doing male things in the absence of women, unabashedly.

Profdiddy · 2015-09-23T23:55:59+00:00

Human beings look for patterns and meaning even when there is none. Science and secular humanism guide me. All else is magicians handwaving. Since I have nothing else but this life, it makes me want to live it well.

ThePedanticF0x · 2015-09-24T10:47:41+00:00

Most of the philosophies you mention embodies the same code of the warrior. In other words, independence through self mastery. Mastery over emotion, knowledge and philosophy, nature, the physical body, self discipline, mental clarity and so on. The warrior mindset seeks to recognise and expose observable weakness, and at the same time recognise and eliminate personal weakness. The truth is often painful to behold and more so to accept and understand, the warrior is encouraged to embrace the pain of truth, including the biggest one, death.

nicechallenge · 2015-09-25T02:54:23+00:00

I'm a fan of philosophy to be honest chosing between one or another it's difficult because imo every school of thought has some true behind it. Personally my philosphy is some sort of absurdism I think because for me life is just an absurd game in which nothing seems to have a predefined or divine purpose. This is somehow depressing but at the same time it's very liberating. I'm free to embrace the absurd in any way according to my desires, goals and dreams before everything ends. I know it's gonna be a hard road and that's why I have redpill, stoicism, Nietzsche and buda for outcome independance and mind control.

blaze604 · 2015-09-23T19:49:54+00:00

I've been practicing stoicism for the past several years. Works for me

pdtrading · 2015-09-23T20:44:45+00:00

Im Hindu, and though I think you should extract the benefits of a religion to cater to your positivity and personal growth and needs, Hinduism teaches sooo much about Trp that it amazes me how little of its original teachings are passed. Society screwed alot of its theories up, but when you learn about the theories (that buddihism practice aswell, the path of a yogi) you realize what masculinity is, and how everything in nature falls into place, and it is the essence of what TRP is. The main god, Lord Shiva, (lord of destruction) is known as the first yogi, and he created everything, including the billions of other Gods in this Polytheistic religion. Has a family, and disconnected himself from the world to avoid all attachments, which is the essence of MGTOW! Krisna, God of love, has one main wife, but has 100's of other lovers, and sees that his love is unbound and can be shared as he has love of all.

ToTheSummit · 2015-09-24T13:48:16+00:00

it is not a philosophy but I have not come close to anything that makes you feel more Red Pill than reading Shakespeare, in fact it make me get rid of my shyness

apackofwankers · 2015-09-27T17:54:58+00:00

For me Systema martial arts has helped me keep a relaxed and cheerful attitude under pressure and when in pain

Title	Stoicism and other ideological things
Author	PumpkinDevourer
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Date	September 23, 2015 7:33 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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