Stop Hating Being 'Friends'

abdada · 2015-08-16T18:48:46+00:00

When I was in power and wealth creation mode in my teens and 20s, I didn't have a lot of time for male friends.

Why waste a breath on a female one?

Peers, colleagues and the rare inner circle friends are all you should have time for until you have earned time off.

You only get that teens-to-twenties energy for about a decade. How you use it affects the next 50-60 years of your life.

GrandmasterHurricane · 2015-08-16T22:05:32+00:00

Sigh, I just stopped reading after a while. You have to learn the difference between an acquaintance and a friend.

You don't have to be friends with someone just because you've known them for a long time. There are people I took it off mutt live that I knew since we were kids. Growing up means thinking your own thoughts and having your own interests and having your own moral values. Sometimes you realize that you were only friend with people because they were around and it was convenient. Your personalities might not click too well, nor do you even have the same interests or same values. You have to learn to let go.

I'm not about to go out of my way for any girl in life because the concept of loyalty, honor, and brotherhood means nothing to them. I could watch her cat for her one day and when I need a favor she turns me down. Men know that you have to return that favor because if you don't, well, it makes you a piece of shit and an unreliable guy. No man wants that on his rep. A woman, she couldn't care less and in fact will even attempt to shame you for expecting a reasonable favor from her. I know first hand, from observing my decently balanced (situational alpha/sometimes very beta/sometimes alpha) brother and his female friends.

Women don't understand brother-sister dynamics the same way we do. To them, you're just some man she won't fuck but will still give her attention and affection. You'll get thrown under the bus very quick. You'll see a girl have this brother like guy in her life, doing bro-sis things n shit, but as soon as Chad comes around and tells the girl to tell the guy to go fuck himself he gets kicked out of her life that easy. You're disposable. Never forget that. She will take your money to buy Chad a gift (Happened with a girl I was fucking at work once who I became exclusive with. She'd take her best friend/brother's money to buy me shit and had no shame in admitting it to me. Funny thing is, he's the guy she cheated on me with in the end. Funny how the female mind works). You're disposable.

You should never be buddy-buddy with your friends/bros girls. She should be an acquaintance to you, always. Even if she's around your group all the time. Keep it light, not even casual.

Just because you knew a girl since your preTRP days, it doesn't mean you can't drop her from your life. In fact, as a RP it would be weird not to drop her if you want more from her but you already know it's futile. You can't be friends with people you secretly wanna fuck, that's that nice guy shit. You're either in our you're out. Have some self respect.

This post is Beta as fuck. Women can never be reliable friends. Not for emotional support, not for favors, not for anything. They will never go out of their way for you.

favours_of_the_moon · 2015-08-16T20:12:06+00:00

That's cool, but you really have to manage their perceptions. If they think they are dominating you or leading you around, their behavior can get downright oppositional and unruly.

mrmeyhemn · 2015-08-16T22:36:31+00:00

why "friends" does not work with women.

they inevitably want you to act like an orbiter. there is no exception. if you are her friend, meaning even if you have 0 romantic interest in her, she will always at some point want and insist that you behave like an orbiter. being friends with a woman is a waste of time. if you need companionship friends it is best to have male friends, and a dog, because dogs are more loyal than both men and women.

DaBaulz · 2015-08-16T20:59:49+00:00

Totally agreed, with one exception - friends with a girl that you want is a horrible idea. If you love the girl and she doesn't dig you, banish her, friends will never work.

Now To the meat: Friends with a hot woman that you don't want is WAY MORE VALUABLE then being lovers with her. As a friend you can invite her to bars, concerts, swimming holes, you can use her to be fun. Wanna go skiing this weekend? Guess whose coming? Hot friend babe. And Chad is using her to pick up all her friends. Girls can be REALLY fun in this way. The trick is to NOT want them, the trick is to do this because you couldn't pick them up. If you have standards there are girls out there your just not into, those will make for perfect friends. An invaluable tool for an alpha is a wealth of friends, therefore this is more important then a lover because this tool will help you get many lovers.

Who is this man with several hot women friends? Why hasn't he creeped them out yet? He's chad thundercock.

Notice that when I say friends, I mean in a sort of light hearted male/female teasing way, using eachother for mutual benefit. Real friendship with a woman is hard to attain and much rarer then real friendship with bros. Your female friends will ditch you for Chad, so never depend on them. True male friends, true brotherhood is unrivalled. A serious hole in PUA and TRP, is male relationships. Part of being an alpha is the friendship of males, the way you interact and the way you are respected by males. IF all you ever worry about is females, yet you do not have a tribe of men that support you and respect you (and that you respect), women wills see through your game.

sir_wankalot_here · 2015-08-17T15:24:00+00:00

OP has a point.

Friendzone is when the guy has the hots for the chick, and the chick isn't into him. So the guy attempts to do stuff for the chick hoping to get her to change her mind.

But if you set boundaries and don't expect her to have sex with you things will work out OK. Again it is a matter of expectations

f3yleaf · 2015-08-17T15:40:06+00:00

Female friends can be an awesome asset for a rp guy, anyone who does not realize this is dumb.

SeekingTheWay · 2015-08-17T09:52:56+00:00

You are essentially applying their own Briffault's law back on them. You want some benefit from the interaction (e.g. sex) and she made it clear that it is not happening. Since you do not see anything else of value in her, you refuse relationship where you are not getting the benefit.

notthatguyTHATguy · 2015-08-17T15:09:28+00:00

According to that definition of a friend, all my coworkers that I don't fight with are my friends. You should reword this to be on the lines of: how to use women to meet other women without becoming an orbiter. Because that's all you're describing here. Hugging someone doesn't make them your friend. Good friends don't use each other like this post describes...

Title	Stop Hating Being 'Friends'
Author	lJunKunl
Upvotes	0
Comments	21
Date	August 16, 2015 6:41 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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