There were two posts I recently remembered. One was by a guy who put a dollar in a jar whenever his wife agreed to have sex with him, and using the jar to buy her a birthday present - the more sex the more expensive the present. Second was by a guy who used feet rubs as a transaction to get sex. Both posts were denounced by feminist hate subs as "creepy", "objectifying", and other nonsense. These posts were linked to TRP where we denounced their reactions as "hypocritical", "inconsiderate", etc. That shit, low effort outrage porn, is done, so I won't dwell on that, look it up here in this sub if you want (don't). Let's instead look at "why" such reaction was given, from men it was "pathetic", from women it was "creepy".

Fundamentally, a woman either wants or does not want to have sex with you. But it's not that simple, sometimes she does, and sometimes it doesn't. What we and our senile grandpa PUA figured out, that the woman's desire is not mysterious as they'd have you believe, and that there are certain buttons you can push to wet that vagina. Curiously, it's not the things women say they were sexy (like choirplay or foot rubs).

Let's call everything that makes a woman want to have sex with you alpha. The opposite, makes woman not want to have sex with you, is beta. There is more to the definition of beta, but that will come later.

We know that women sometimes have sex that they do not want, and regard this kind of sex as "rape", in scare quotes because it's not the rape me or you think (physical coercion, violence and brutality), but the rape that makes half of India's rape claims false ("I'd thought he'd marry me if I gave him ass"). And it's not the "rape fantasy" that makes panties wet either, from a Khal Drogo lookalike or hot billionare. This kind of not-wanted sex is a sex with betas, that is inherently transactional in nature. It is the duty sex of missionary position and a blowjob with condom on, rather than porn like sex when you guys first met. It is the kind of sex that makes a young man think that the "women use resources to get sex, men vice versa" is anything but a false dichotomy - it is true, but only partially true. Search Heartiste for Skittles-Man if you don't believe me.

If a man accepts transactional, rather than wanted sex, as his goal he cedes a part of his power to the woman - even if she does not want it or pursue it. And lack of power in men is unsexy, thus the chance for wanted sex is lowered. And that leads to transactional sex being the only one possible. And that is a vicious circle that ends in a sexless marriage sprinkled with divorce rape.

Erase the transactional sex from you goals forever. The raison d'etre of TRP is the development of optimal sexual strategy - rape (because it's godawful and carries a shit of risks) and transactional sex (because it does not work and is counterproductive) do not fall in TRP's sexual strategy. Lurk other posts for TRP strategies if you don't know that they are. The goal of TRP's strategy is to make a woman want to have sex with you. Provider strategy DOES NOT WORK. You cannot negotiate attraction like you would buy a car or a house.

But you all know that. The other misunderstanding comes from the opposite scenario - where you miscounstrue anything remotely "provider-like" as "beta". After all, you see the posts in my first paragraph, think that if full-on doormat does not work, go full-on asshole.

The deed itself is rather neutral, and women's reaction to it is only superficial and faked. The thing they smell, and I do mean smell that with extreme precision, is the intent behind it. A man who gives her foot rubs to get sex is "creepy" and a "loser". A man who gives her foot rubs to because he wants to (maybe he likes her or something, I dunno why), is "sweet" and "caring". And while "sweet" and "caring" do not wet the 'gina, they do not dry it either.

There are some of you who are nice people by default (people are different), and stumbling here by your experience makes you want to cut yourself up to become "asshole" to get the women. Don't do that. Niceness is not what drives women away. Niceness as a sexual strategy does.