The Real You

GayLubeOil · 2019-02-12T08:07:21+00:00

There's an on going argument between Essentialists and Existentialists on what comes first essence or existence.

To put it in layman's terms are people born into a pre determined role/caste/race/gender or do they decide their role after they come into existence.

The pickle Rollo stumbled into here is interesting.

His books built on the foundation of biological essentialism.

However "forging yourself into a creation of your choosing" is the diametrically opposed existentialist position..

If men should forge themselves into a creation of their choosing why not a transgender? But Rollo is against transgenders.

On the other hand Rollo isn't going to take the Traditionalist position of a man must follow his destiny. So we have an interesting conundrum on our hands.

I sure hope there was a copy of Being and Time in the glove compartment of this Tesla.

Cloak_and_Rose · 2019-02-12T11:35:47+00:00

As I’ve pointed out countless times, a majority of men’s (80% Beta) only real problem is finding that one girl that fits their sexual strategy as ideal.

And if they find that one girl, they stop in their tracks. As if they have struck gold. And so does all their self improvement and motivation in life. It's why men get lazy stop going to the gym and take on their girlfriend's netflix and eat shit habits because they place all their worth into finding that one girl and then follow them like a lost puppy.

one thing I don’t get into in that essay is how I willingly became someone else – fundamentally changing my personality again – in order to solve this girl’s problems because I believed that who I was when we met was so flawed it was causing her neurosis.

It's why when there's something fundamentally wrong with the relationship, men will blame themselves rather than look objectively and see that perhaps the woman they fell in love with is batchit insane. And that's partly to do with the societal conditioning that women are always the victims, and that men are always to blame. But mostly because blue pill conditioning inside of him seeks a resolution to the conflict. So he questions himself. Questions her what he has done wrong. Falls further into the betatisation process. And utter believes it's on him to fix it.

In a relationship with a borderline you get a skewered sense of reality. Which is why women are much more notorious for gas lighting. As if society validating her solipsism wasn't enough. Now you must deal with a woman who has the ability to induce psychosis at the drop of a hat. Such women tend to have horror stories of their exs abusing them and beating them up. A fate that will soon happen to you when she dumps you as you become a long list of men that 'abused' her in her victimhood false narrative.

My Blue Pill conditioning exacerbated this because it always teaches men that any problem a woman has with a guy is due to his own lack of investment, support, sensitivity or not giving enough of themselves.

And unfortunately I still see that in the Red Pill. Especially Red Pill Married. "You wasn't alpha enough" "Your behaviour is why she got bored" "You got lazy that's why she cheated." And this is what MGTOW has always had an issue with in the Red Pill. The men who will openly blame it all on other men for the shortcomings of a failed marriage. And her hypergamy is then used as an excuse for her shitty behaviour. 'If you was alpha enough she wouldn't have cheated'. But more importantly it pedestalises that woman further because you must become chad. You must improve yourself beyond all. And what of the woman in a dead bedroom? You must change. Yet she's only to receive. And therein lies the fault in the stars. You get red pilled. You change your 'marriage'. You change your personality. And she's still the same lackluster woman.

I suppose it's why you say men must become their own mental point of origin. Because even Red Pill men are inclined to make it about their woman. And more importantly, a man in such a relationship should see objectively that the woman has equal blame in becoming lazy and desireless. Generally in relationships both the man and woman get into a rutt. But it's the solipsism in her that is more inclined to place the blame of a failed relationship squarely on the man. And it's her sisterhood who reaffirm that. And that's rather sad as most women never really progress further than that.

This is why when I became red pilled. Why when I was reading your book during a dead bedroom and I improved myself beyond her capability to do so herself. That I left and couldn't continue to be with a woman who had become as boring as a potato.

It was rather interesting to say the least because I had women coming up to me in bars flirting with me (literally in front of her) and she would throw a hissy fit about it but it never sparked a genuine desire to fix the dead bedroom. And what really fucked her up and made her so lackluster wasn't me or any of her exs. It was her radical feminist ideology. One that always had an issue with men being 'competitive' that men was not deserving of female desire.

I've always hated feminism so at every part in our 1.5 year relationship I resisted each way. Constant conflict and hamstering. Much like a BPD woman.

Red Pill men don’t find themselves, they build themselves.

Forge your own path. And that's what MGTOW can teach Red Pill. To develop yourself as a man who has an fulfilling life beyond women. It will make you less inclined to place your mental point of origin on them too. Fulfilling your biological imperative is an important aspect to building yourself but not as important as building a legacy that one day you may even pass onto your children. Perhaps that is the empire that you have created through your career. What ever it is to him, a man's journey is much more than just becoming chad. I would place the importance of brotherhood and male spaces much further than fulfilling one's biological imperative. Still, MGTOW's hiding away from women because of the victimised climate is not the solution. Becoming chad is still a part of the rather large puzzle. Masculinity needs femininity. Genuine desire feeds it. And masculinity is what drives men to accomplish incredible things in life.

strikethrough123 · 2019-02-12T12:24:30+00:00

Treat yourself like you are your own child.

DeGENZerate · 2019-02-12T05:02:24+00:00

This is Rollo Tomassi who I have quoted many times but there is a gaping hole bigger than ya mom in this article.

When he said

Red Pill men dont find themselves they build themselves

Based on

realistic assessments

What I am about to say is maybe too controversial for the Red Pill, but I see the pattern and somebody needs to say it.

These are the same maxims that Jordan Peterson lectures.

Lets talk the origins of Red Pill. The subject or focus of fascism was the state/race. The subject of communism was socioeconomic class. The subject of liberalism is the individual. Since liberalism won the 20th century, the individual won. This means it's time to liberate. Liberate man from government. Liberate black from white. Liberate female from male. Child from parents. Person from gender

This line of thinking fucked things up which led to a need for The Red Pill. The Red Pill is inherently opposed to this fuck up in every form. Jordan Peterson is an individualist and a classical liberal. He wants to go back to somewhere in the middle of what I just said. He wants to conserve the system in an earlier stage of decay.

Rollo had become steriotypically sports car materialistic. Here he unconsciously repeats the flaws of the system he opposes. He views the Red Pill as a "Praxeology" cause and effect in relation to the matrix aka the liberal system we live in.

they forge themselves into a creation of their own the masculine project that is you

Rollo views people as materialistic objects and since red pill is a reactionary "praxeology", according to him, his advice is void of any guiding principle to build on. What the Red Pill needs is a direction. A Red Pill mission^{^tm} or masculineproject^{^tm} is masturbatoryand escapes the essence of the issue. Instead he opts for a response reminescent of "clean your room." The Red Pill will eat up this advice blindly because after all, he is the Rollo Tomassi!

When Rollo steps out of the Lambo will he lead men to something great or will he continue to react to the next horrible thing liberalism does to the world

While it is difficult, Rollo Tomassi is the Jordan Peterson of the Red Pill. If you want to blindly reject this then enjoy your dopamine. If you want to argue this logically I'm all ears. If this leaves you frustrated with nowhere to look for answers, feel free to pm me about Ride the Tiger, the best answer I could find.

RealMcGonzo · 2019-02-13T02:07:06+00:00

Is that Nicholas Cage in the bikini?

NASCARnormie · 2019-02-13T22:14:13+00:00

this has passive nihilist written all over. to be purely oneself one must accept his will and say yes. Oneself is defined by your culture, your ancestors, not "realistic assessments." Realistic based off whose view? Why even have a realistic assessment. Why not attempt to transcend.

i know an existentialist when i see one. An existentialist is one who projects man within crisis, not beyond. Rollo doesn't care about metaphysics or the transcendent. All his advice lies on the existent side(the physical world), instead of the transcendent.

He's failed to grasp the concept of mastering ones fate and as Hegel would say, is a slave to life and its materialistic concessions.

Title	The Real You
Author	Rollo-Tomassi
Upvotes	57
Comments	50
Date	February 12, 2019 3:51 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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