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[–]OnTheGoBro 14 points14 points14 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I agree with the idea that women are picky because they can afford to be but the idea (as per your reply to /u/Evileddie13) that you cannot get laid if you don't meet some kind of minimum requirement is incorrect.
Women decide on who to date or sleep with based on either gains or feels. Taller men make them feel protected and they gain social proof. They might like vice-like hands or stone arms because it makes the man seem more dominant (not over other men, but herself), especially in the bedroom.
Regardless of who you are, what you look like (within the bounds of reason), or what you have or can do (useful skills wise); if you can go to the club today and make some woman feel a certain way, then she will sleep with you.
If you told me you were <5'8", made <$600 dollars a month, and an introvert I would not believe you ever got laid.
This reply to /u/Evileddie13 is completely incorrect. You either haven't consumed enough material from the sub yet or you aren't paying enough attention because if you were you would have already encountered stories of the following:
All you have to do is offer gains or feels. Gains+feels for long term relationships, feels\gains for the short term ones or hookups.
Sidenote: I'm a 5'5", college dropout who gets laid at least a couple of times a month. All cold approaches, none of that paying for overpriced drinks at the club bullshit. I'm definitely introverted but you have to forego comfort when you have an objective; only women can afford to be shy.
[–]bigdickedtyrone-2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Exactly. Good looks and height will initially attract a woman, but that's not what will make the woman stay.
[–]DreamPeddler7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
5'4 checking in, if you wanted sympathy, you came to the wrong place, nobody is going to feel sorry for you and your small dick...
[–]marinewannabee970 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Woo! 5'8 here. Being small aint so bad. Benching more than most tall guys gives one a pleasing sense of self satisfaction. It is simply a matter of overcoming the pity part bullshit. At 18 I have accepted my limitations and found ways to adapt.
[–]AlphaMortal1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
5'8" as well, great to here you've accepted yourself. But just wanted to let you know, contrary to popular belief, men do not stop growing until 25 years old. You are only 18 you could easily squeeze out at least another inch or two. Depends on your genes, but also your lifestyle.
[–]bewegungmachtschlank 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Right and wrong. Men don't stop growing until about 25 but its mostly their brain for the last few years. Your height is determined quite a bit earlier.
[–]AlphaMortal0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True, the brain does grow the most. But there are several accounts of men still growing up until 25 yrs old. Not saying its extremely likely though
[–]becredible0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've just never thought of myself as short, and thus never saw it as a handicap. I can be talking to someone 8" taller than me and honestly not think about the fact he's much taller than me until halfway through the conversation. People get way too caught up on their height, but I just don't give a fuck. Girls honestly don't seem to care either and have never mentioned height to me.
[–]IChawt[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
suddenly I have a small dick? I literally never brought up my penis size. I stated that thats not the size women care about.
[–]DreamPeddler0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because to women, endowement in those 2 areas is a TOP priority right? All i'm saying is read more and post less. That way not everybody who replies will be doing so to debunk your theory, if they even bother to...
[–]Rowanwell1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How far can you really go if you're not tall?
Let this meme die already.
[–]dj10show0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Okay:
(a) We're not going to become president of a global superpower
(b) This height requirement thing has really exploded in the last 5-10 years, so citing examples of the past, and extremely unique ones at that does not help most people
(c) Do you think short people are just saying this for the sake of feeling bad for themselves? Look at every thread where some guy chimes in with how he's 6'2" and pulls 3 girls a week and then says it's not height, but it's game. Halo effect is real.
[–]becredible3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you're a beta like me,
Stop right there. I'm not taking fucking advice from a beta that's feeling sorry for himself because he's not "blessed with physical qualities" and that clearly hasn't read the sidebar or actually swallowed the pill yet.
Do your work first, internalize the red pill sexual strategy, become alpha, take responsibility for yourself and stop feeling sorry for yourself, and get laid. Then just keep reading until you have something actually worth posting.
[–]envious19862 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
5ft 8 male reporting in. 90% of the women ive dated and banged are 5ft11 and over....
[–]bigdickedtyrone -2 points-2 points-2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
exactly. Height is important, but being alpha is more important.
[–]Evileddie131 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Then, by your post, I should have never been laid. Women are stupid, plain and simple. They say one thing and do another
[–]IChawt[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]Incubus1306 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What about 5'6 great game, and middle class? Short sucks but like everyone says, YOU CANT CHANGE IT. Improve everything else and move on.
[+]IChawt[S] -7 points-6 points-5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, thats the moral of the story.
[–]reddishman1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
6'2" foot here. Game trumps everything.
As a side note my easiest lays were girls who were taller then me by a few inches. They put in all the effort and all I had to do was not fuck it up. Although it was not my height that sealed the deal rather it was scarcity on the girls end.
[–]RP-Doctor 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
my easiest lays were girls who were taller then me by a few inches
Of course they were. These girls are literal amazons. They're looking around for any guy who is even close to their height, and you're one of the very few. One of the most beta guys I know is 6'5". If he chose to (although he rarely did) he could effortlessly bang any girl over 6' just because he was the only guy around they could find even mildly attractive. I think nearly all of his lays in college came this way.
[–]MagicGainbow0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
As I see it, height and size are similar in that just don't be noticeably small and you'll be fine.
[–]RP-Doctor 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I put on about 20 lbs recently at the gym and people have been asking me if I got taller. Seriously, it's about being physically imposing, not necessarily tall. Being tall is just an "easy" way to get there. Back in my BP days I've had girls think that I was shorter than some guys who were my height exactly because they carried themselves with confidence. Perceived height is a part of perceived value and confidence.
Edit: Of course the ideal is being tall and imposing.
[–]MagicGainbow1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed, although i've found that some people equate very tall with stupid.
[–]RP-Doctor 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think more people equate very muscular with stupid.
[–]1OneRedYear0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At some point you have to just accept who you are. If you're short, there is nothing you can do about it. If you have a small dick, there is nothing you can do about it.
The best thing you can do is worry about you. If you're alone and she's DTF it doesn't matter if your dick is small, if she lets you fuck, she still let you fuck. She can talk all the shit she wants, but you still fucked her. And fuck her for your pleasure. Fuck her the way you want to fuck her. Don't worry about "making up for your shortcomings". Do you. Either she likes it or she doesn't. Doesn't matter had sex. You don't stop being the captain in the bedroom and become a servant, you kick it up a notch and take her along for the ride. As a friend told me, my dick makes ME feel good. I can't worry about her or the next man's dick.
[–]irateMD 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Most women care about penis size (preference for slightly larger than average), but care more about who is attached to it. Most women want a guy who is taller than she is, with ideal being slightly taller than average. Women may be curious about fucking a freakishly tall dude once for the experience, just like you might want to fuck the 4'10" chick for fun, but mostly they want every trait to be a bit bigger and better than the average healthy guy. Addendum: there was also a study that showed women preferred larger penises more when the subject was taller, and didn't care as much about penis size when the subject was shorter.
[–]LionLegacy0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Height def matters to most girls, but not all. Consider it an uphill battle on average when playing the field, but have your bases of aesthetics and confidence covered and you're good.
[–]thenemaxofredpill-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"Size doesn't matter" - says all the guys with small penises. Granted, I'm not the biggest in the world. I rock 7-7.5. But I have asked every chick that I have slept with what they would have done if I pulled down my pants and only had like 5 inches. Their response: "Oh no...it wouldn't have ever went down." I am 6 foot, blonde hair, blue eyes and in shape. Then, I asked "What if I only had 5 inches but I pulled down my pants after you found out that I was a millionaire?" Their answer: "I'm sure we could work with it."
Just goes to show you that your SMV is a total of certain needs that women have. If you have a small dick, then you better be good looking and have some jingle in your pocket. If you have a small dick and are not very good looking...then you better have way more jingle in your pocket.
No one cares about the size of your dick except you.
[–]irateMD 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
LOL 7-7.5 The range gives it away. If you want to make it convincing, pick a number next time. If you want to know the truth for yourself, measure BPEL.
[–]thenemaxofredpill-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow. Didn't know a dude would take such interest in my dick. But I'll entertain. I don't know about your dick but mine is sometimes longer or shorter depending on how turned-on I am. Meaning, if I have gone a few days without sex, then my dick will be 7.47868 inches but if it is the second time that I have had sex in the hour, it will only be 7.134623 inches. Your welcome.
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