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[–]bruh_my_jays 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Good to see you're starting your journey. This post is a good example of the feelings of someone who is new to TRP. What you're going through is completely normal.
A common thing pattern I see among first phase/coping red-pillers is a distrust or even outright hatred towards women. This is indicated in your own post by three points made in one of your statements,
...there is no point in having feelings towards women...
The mistake here is associating the frustration you have towards one specific woman with all women. Don't withdraw emotionally. Being a man means dealing with your emotions healthily so you can keep thriving. Identify the source of your frustration and don't allow it to interfere with other aspects of your life.
If you were in a car accident with someone driving a Prius, would you resent all Prius drivers forever because of it? No, you obviously wouldn't. Likewise, this oneitis girl is the only one who has demonstrated she is unworthy of your attention.
There are plenty of other women who will respect you.
Which brings me to the second part:
...they can never love you...
Love is commanded by the weakest members of an hierarchy, but transmitted from the strongest. This is because love is a gift. It is gravitational.
Love: Master/God --> Father --> Mother --> Son
Respect is what you want from a woman. It is commanded by the strongest of the hierarchy and thus flows in an elevated manner. Unlike love, respect is not a gift -- it is a reward, a status symbol.
Respect: Son --> Mother --> Father --> Master/God
As a Son ascends to the role of Man, he receives less love but is more respected. Conversely, he shows respect to fewer people but has a broader sense of love.
A Man who cannot command respect and demonstrate love has no place in the hierarchy.
This brings me to the final point:
...once they know they have you
A woman will not respect a man who respects her. The conditions must always be set by the man. You win her respect by demonstrating masculine strength, valuable skills, and social dominance. Once you have won her respect, it is safe to bestow her with love.
Do not liberally offer love to a woman and expect respect in return. The respect must always come first.
The condensed version:
Don't conflate anger at one woman with anger at all women. AWALT is specific to female sexual strategy and hypergamy, not in "being deserving of my wrath."
A woman will not love you, so stop trying to win her love. Focus on winning her respect. Being respected and having abundant love to share will meet your emotional needs.
Love is your gift to her, it should only be given when you are in complete command of the relationship.
[–]ALS_SLA[S] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks so much for this reply , it shines alot of light on the situation for me , I think it's a more honest model of relationship than what is shoved down our throats by media and our own expectations .....
I don't blame the girl, I think she is just playing her role as a female , however illogical it may seam to me, and I realise all I'm capable of changing is myself ... So onward to being a man in every sense of the word
[–]DesignerTom4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A hot girl will never fuck just one guy. Virgins aren't special. They will not want to go through their whole life only fucking you. They will have the desire to see what others cocks and guys feel like.
[–]1jb_trp4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have come to realize that what a women says she Wants isn't what she Wants , just what she feels at the moment.
Women are like water; they'll pretty much fill whatever glass they're given.
If a girl has feelings for you and you're the type of guy who goes to church and is "saving himself till marriage," she'll do all those things with you until she loses feelings. Then, if she finds a guy who gives her tingles again, and who drinks and smokes weed, and wants to fuck her brains out, she'll likely go right along with it. And on it goes.
She's 18 years old. She's a child. She doesn't know what she wants and likely has a decade of riding the CC until she wants to "settle down." Learn from this and better yourself. Read the sidebar, lift, and don't talk to this woman again.
[–]ALS_SLA[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you brother , I plan to learn from this honestly , the last sentence in your reply is the truth....and I'll never go back ever , only better experiences and things await
[–]stefshooter2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Just remeber that TRP is meant to help you. It is all about you and your self improvement. Go to gym and lift, find hobbies, focus on your goals and the rest will come. Remeber in a long term relationship that dread game is your best freind because it makes a woman realise you are the prize and that you can get another woman anytime and she is going to work to keep you around.
[–]twatbutters2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The one thing I've learned from lurking here for a couple of months is that this subreddit teaches excellent lessons, but that's only half of the battle.
Getting your ass up on time, eating right, going to the gym, and excelling in your career are where you see what your words are worth. You have to walk the walk for everything on this subreddit to have actual meaning. You can't just be a fat/scrawny dude who reads this shit to feel better about himself.
[–]ALS_SLA[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I assure you I take this extremely seriously, been too unhappy for too long . No more excuses
Thank you for this , I started calisthenics a few weeks ago and hope to take up boxing at the university soon ,,, I realise I got to make myself better for myself it's the only way
[–]Seoul_Brother1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I wrote an article on this lol
[–]ArkAngelEV1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Today you are only one step in the right direction. The path in front of you is long. Arduous. But maybe, just maybe, with enough determination you can actually make it to be ... happy. Enjoy the journey
Thank you for the well wishes , that's all I can take from life happiness ....learning to put my goals above all else keep strong brother
[–]Llamada1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My rule is basically that i will only act as a gentlemen if she acts like a lady. Else i will be just another guy.
[–]luckylosing1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Taking the red pill doesn't just happen in a day. It's a very long process and most of us will never truly grasp the full scope of it all. Always remember "Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water."
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are spiteful , they can only do what's best for them regardless of all the sacrifices you made for them
They are not overly spiteful, but they are completely self centred. Your sacrifices for her are exactly that: sacrifices. They don't buy you anything. There is no such thing as relationship equity. You are not buying, you are renting. Adjust your payments accordingly.
She will eventually love someone who doesn't give a Damn while hurting someone who would give her the world
Right. So sacrifice nothing for women, because it counts against you not for you. Be the man she loves (as much as she can love anyone), not the man she needs or the man she uses.
[–]Mr-Ed2091 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The hardest thing of TRP to swallow for me is not the AWALT and they will cheat etc (women do that once they lose interest and are looking for a new guy). It's that as OP described, treating a women with kindness and affection has the absolute opposite results you were hoping for. Be machiavellian, treat her like shit and she will text you every day, make you dinner, cry to her friends that 'i like him sooo much'.
I wish it wasn't true but i've seen it just way too many times in my own life and others to deny it any longer. Just yesterday i went to dinner with the girl i'm seeing. She told me about a work colleague of hers who travelled cross country to go stay with a guy for the weekend who she had been seeing before he moved away. First night they went out on a date had sex, whatever.. The next day she went exploring the city as he was at work, when she came back to his apartment she literally walked in on the guy having sex with another girl. What was her reaction? - ignore it, walk out of his apartment and pretend it wasn't happening. Now she is OBSESSED with the guy and can't stop texting him telling every one at work how she thinks she's winning him over etc..
I tried to explain to 'my' girl that it doesn't surprise me at all and i've seen it happen way too many times. She put it down to her friend being young (not that young 23 yo). I said if you walked in on me with someone else it would be the same. She laughed and punched me in the arm - then did a stare into the distance as she realised I was probably correct.
It's such a trip to me, normally u give what u get but with women it's the other way around. I bet so many guys do a 180 because of women like this....But I have come to accept the way it is, no judgment it's the dynamic of male and female....
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