TRP for an ugly man

love2fap · 2013-10-19T10:02:35+00:00

Of course it is.. Start/keep hitting the gym, take a long look at how you're dressing and how you're maintaining yourself, and as long as there's no glaring trainwrecks, your attitude will make or break your success, not your looks.

GaiusScaevolus · 2013-10-19T14:11:32+00:00

"Give me 5 minutes to talk away this ugly face and I will bed the Queen of France" -Voltaire

Get your other factors on lock and you'll do fine.

feely3 · 2013-10-19T13:19:03+00:00

There really aren't that many men out there that are truly ugly, most of the things that you consider ugly about yourself are more than likely adjustable. Haircut, clothing, skin, grooming, body composition are all completely changeable.

2013-10-19T21:21:13+00:00

Just gonna throw this out there, you're probably not anywhere near as ugly as you think you are.

You're finishing a PhD and cant bring yourself to describe yourself as smart?

You "think" you're in shape?

Just found out you've been a beta orbiter?

You know what all of this spells to me - Lack of confidence, lack of appropriate frame, negative mental attitude.

Im not saying that if you ARE genuinely ugly you wont have to work hard to get past it, you can be damn sure looks are an important part, but i suspect you're probably a lot like i have been and wont give yourself a ****ing break. And your desperation, lack of confidence and probably furtive body language are larger portions of why girls arent interested than your raw looks. Especially since you're not overweight.

I'm ugly, im also still on the borderline of obese by BMI (Im a lifter so its not entirely accurate) fucked a solid 8 marathon runner last night. Made her a regular plate this morning. Got a standing invitation to go back tonight if i can be arsed. It can be done.

-Fony- · 2013-10-19T13:36:25+00:00

time to be racially insensitive. "ugly" white men must look much worse than their darker brethren, cuz a whole lot of "ugly" niggas and spanish dudes here in NY have true 9's(some multiple) and they aren't rich or famous either. with women how you get in their head and your social capacity goes a long way.

i'm talking balding and fat. still able to pull women age 22-26, very good looking. one such dude worked with me over the summer, women would run back into the building to give him their phone number after 5 minutes of conversation with him. there's almost no excuse out there save deformity once your inner game is at a high level.

of course, it may be different elsewhere but few places compare to where i live for women. we got the hot ones from every country in the world. you're probably walking around with that self doubt thinking you're a toad, and you walk, talk and act like a toad. that's the girl repellent right there.

Gabelat · 2013-10-19T10:04:02+00:00

Focus on what you can fix. If you 'think' you're in shape, ask yourself if you really think you're fit. Regardless, go to the gym regularly and get stronger.

What exactly makes you ugly? If it's something like a combover, get rid of that and just shave your head.

As for not having any girls interested in you, accept that you're going to get rejected a lot. Even if you get a 1/20 success rate, that's still a really good average. TRP is about taking control of your life while improving yourself and getting what you want from relationships.

HigglyBumps · 2013-10-19T17:56:17+00:00

If you're convinced that you aren't "face" attractive, then just throw it out the window as an asset to you and don't even respond when some girl tells you how you look, be it good or bad. Just look her in the eye no matter what and let it slide off without so much as acknowledging it.

This way you can use your 'lowest' asset as an indicator, if you don't expect people to notice your looks, then when someone does compliment you it means they are fishing for interest validation.

I don't want to brag here, but I am commonly referred to as reasonably attractive, I have a 'cute' face and a big toothy smile. Smiling will make you as 'cute' as you're going to get, so wire it into your reactions and make it noticeable. Not a constant grin, make girls realize that THEY made you smile.

Being cute does not win my battles for me, and I have seen many a man with more game than me take home women far and above them on the sliding scale.

Women care about physical attractiveness initially, but if your other qualities are strong they wont let it get in the way and neither should you.

puaSenator · 2013-10-19T19:48:47+00:00

Learn to dress ridiculously well. I've seen dudes in NYC that dress like fucking celebrities. They instantly seem attractive regardless of their face. Their attire screams attractiveness. I don't know what it is, but it's crazy. The ugliest dudes in the world look attractive when they have great style. I'm not talking knowing how to dress, but realllly knowing how to dress.

rapscallionx · 2013-10-19T15:52:57+00:00

That's the beauty of being a guy. Being good looking isn't the entirety of your identity.

This year I realized that a girl I was in love with didn't give a fuck about me and just used me to get things.

yeah, don't love girls, and don't engage in non-reciprocal relationships with them. If they aren't putting in at least as much as you are then you need to throttle back.

Something most guys don't understand is that you can actually influence a girl to become the kind of person that uses you. It's like a little kid constantly testing their boundaries. Once her selfishness is ignored, it will increase.

Clauderoughly · 2013-10-19T16:40:35+00:00

Short, (5'6") Average looking, tubby guy here. I'm married to a fantastic woman, despite my physical shortcomings.

It's all about attitude. I once thought like you, until I realized that women will overlook most looks based issues, or rationalize being attracted to them when you have game.

Work on yourself, and work on your mental state.

You sound like you have some real self image issues and that you really haven't allowed your time to get past the previous fucked up relationship.

Also I'm finishing a PhD right now, I'm not saying that I'm smart or anything

You're smarter than me, I dropped out of university

You need to develop a really good sense of self, and boundaries, you sound like you are coming out of your beta cocoon.

While a lot of guys here are focusing on the physical, you need to also focus on the mental, and sense of self.

frequentlywrong · 2013-10-19T10:05:52+00:00

How tall are you and what ethnicity?

pro_skub · 2013-10-19T12:27:11+00:00

IMO your best course of action is to be the "sucker" and buy. But at least know you are taking poison, you won't be oblivious to the bullshit. If it can help you find solace, that's what many attractive men end up doing anyway for lack of intelligence, laziness or obliviousness.

Let me rephrase that in a more intelligible way. Your best choice for a reliable source of affection and sex is to find a long term partner, which is very easy as long as you have a few things down. The good thing is that those things are under your control. Remember that women will be throwing themselves at you at certain age provided you have money, a good job, or you live in a better country than theirs etc. They simply can't stop their hardwired parasitic behaviour.

The trick is to never forget it is not love, just an illusion. But it can work just as well. Just try to keep the bullshit under control to make it worth it.

The other option is to use prostitution, which in my country is legal. A bit expensive but I don't think it's a bad choice at all.

Ah, one last thing: I don't think hitting the gym is a good choice in terms of effort and reward if the only reward you care about is women. It just isn't worth it.

FortunateBum · 2013-10-23T22:01:22+00:00

This year I realized that a girl I was in love with didn't give a fuck about me and just used me to get things.

That's what women are like. Now you know.

NahDudeFkThat · 2013-10-19T10:32:28+00:00

looks dont matter if ur a fkn champion

work at having concrete confidence and self-amusement

become good at sex

make emotional impacts regular

bathe in pussy

wakethfkupneo · 2013-10-19T15:06:32+00:00

Of course it is! I can remember quite a few ugly guys picking chicks like it's their job - that is from what I've seen with my own eyes. Not to mention stories and stories over the internet. And if it's gonna be easier think criminals, bikers and similar 'bad boys' that always get hot chicks - can you find one that looks like fashion model? See what I mean? It's the attitude. How you handle yourself. It's in your head. I'd even argue that we have it easier, cause ugly women can't do much when we're wired to react on how she looks, but woman value totally different and not so obvious things. And these things are something you can actually work on and that doesn't require plastic surgeon.

SuperNinKenDo · 2013-10-19T14:43:39+00:00

Go for the renaissance man angle, be fit, confident without cocky, and fucking intellectual and witty as all hell. Most men look like Potatos quite frankly, looks are what you're able to project, not so much how your face is shaped. The only way these things can't help you is if you are truly abominable, and even then, they won't hurt, and they're things you should do anyway for fucks sake: Who doesn't want to be a witty, fit man with a wide breadth of knowledge and culture and the ability to call upon and explore it? Nobody with half a brain, that's who.

Just do it anyway and forget about women, they'll come to you.

raloa · 2013-10-19T09:53:39+00:00

Let me ask you this. How much do you think girls care about looks?

LargeMoose · 2013-10-19T18:05:00+00:00

As long as you have a large penis your looks shouldn't matter too much. Women care way more about dick size than looks. Plus nothing is more alpha than a big dick.

2013-10-19T14:54:58+00:00

You're a guy. Just have confidence, look like money if possible, and you can enjoy all the women you want.

E: Jonah Hill

E2: read "The Game" by Neil Strauss... it's a fun, anecdotal way to boost your confidence and read a study about things I'm sure you've already thought of.

Title	TRP for an ugly man
Author	JustAnHuman
Upvotes	34
Comments	77
Date	October 19, 2013 9:36 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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