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What advice does TRP have for introverts?

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October 1, 2013
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Title What advice does TRP have for introverts?
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Date October 1, 2013 8:11 AM UTC
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[–]puaSenator 44 points45 points46 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

There is a difference between being introverted and having social anxiety, and using your introversion as an excuse for your poor social skills. I'm an introvert, but if you ask anyone, they'd probably say I'm definitely extroverted. That's because they only know the social side of me.

Personally, as an introvert, I can't be around people all day. I simply can't socialize and be around groups for a large period of time. It's not that I have a problem with it, it's just that I enjoy doing solo activities like gaming, reading, working on a hobby, or even cooking a meal. It's how I unwind and sort of focus on myself, my thoughts, and not have to interact with anyone other than myself.

So TRP is completely applicable in my life. But I have a feeling you may be someone with social anxiety and withdraw from social situations because you do poorly in them. In that case, start reading some self help books and work on your personal issues before taking the pill.

[–]noblepaladin 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I find that as an introvert, it takes intense focus to socialize. That is just how my brain is wired. I would have to concentrate to keep track of people's names, read their body language, remember what they said, keep track of what people are doing in the room, etc. It is hard to stay at 100%. Conversely, most extroverts think it requires a lot of brain power to program computers, do advanced math, play chess or StarCraft, etc, while those things come naturally to me. I can do it for hours without getting exhausted.

I find that the most important thing is to make sure I am well rested before socializing and to take a break from doing things that are too "logical" so my brain can adjust and switch sides. If I am interrupted while I am working, I typically have the "deer in the headlights" look and I would only give one word answers/grunts to questions until my brain adjusts. Most introverts I know are like this, it takes a minute or two to adjust and refocus. Then they can be witty, humorous, etc. I don't think it is a bad thing, many extroverts wish they can turn on that intense focus when they need to get things done, but they have more difficulty doing it.

When you get a good sense for what it takes to flip back and forth between the two modes, you will know how to turn it on when you want to. I think some introverts develop a fear that they won't be able to turn on the social switch when they need to, and that gives them social anxiety. They key is knowing that it is different for different people and you have to figure out what you need to do to make the social side of your brain function at 100%. Some people go out to relax, I won't even bother going out if I am too tired. My brain just won't work.

[–]SnakeInTheAss 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This sums it up pretty well for me. Especially the bit about having to readjust when my focus is broken

[–]HalfysReddit 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're definitely onto something as far as having two "modes", but I'd like to add this:

For me at least, it comes down to where is my focus. I have a racing mind and when I focus on my own thoughts, I'm incredibly introverted.

However, I can be the (seemingly) extroverted life of the party, by shifting my focus away from my own thoughts and onto the reality that is happening around me.

In a way, are you paying attention to the woman in the red dress, or are you paying attention to the internal monologue that woman has stirred up in you?

I believe this is the source of a lot of social anxiety. Those thoughts of inadequacy, of fucking up, those are all part of your internal monologue and if you just don't pay attention to it, those thoughts will pass by and have no real affect on you. But if you pay attention to them, they're run away with your mind like a freight train and cause you to fuck up.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been looking for this answer. I didn't know how to word it. Thank you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is a fundamental point. Introversion is not social anxiety, although I do think introverts are more susceptible to it but I don't have any research to back up that claim.

For me (as an Introvert) the hardest part about 'game' is that I find it very tedious. I am not shy, but I get extremely bored and agitated at trying to interact using game... it just seems like a huge waste of time and energy. This is where the shy mans cure comes in... alcohol. Dulling the senses down helps immensely. Just enough to make the interactions seem interesting.

/u/noblepaladin's advice is great as well... gear yourself into 'social' mode out of 'thinking' mode will help as well. I have a hard time trying to be social after being in my brain all day working.

[–]hehcool -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think there's a need for a research. Introverts don't socialize much, so they don't practice their social skills as much as extroverts. It's logically more likely that extroverts have better social skills, and thus less social anxiety.

[–]angryadult 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nailed it.

the difference to me between extroverts and introverts is what they can spend hours doing, and what they do to recharge their batteries.

as an introvert, i can spend hours doing stuff like you mentioned, and i need to recharge by spending time alone.

extroverts can 'hang out' for hours, and they recharge by spending time with their friends.

and it's a spectrum, not a black and white thing.

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[–]bigyellowtwinki 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is solid advice to overcome a psychological barrier, would you mind if I ever repeated it at some point on another website?

[–]_social_caterpillar 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did you ever repeat this elsewhere? It is deleted here.

[–]bigyellowtwinki 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The advice had something to do with this; "No one is going to remember this days, weeks, or months from now because they are concerned about their own lives, not yours." It had to do with overcoming introversion and pointing out how little you can remember small embarrassments from friends/others and how, even if you did, it makes little to no difference now.

[–]riskrowe 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We've all got an introverted side and an extraverted side. When you're socialising people will see the extraverted side of you, so introverts need to develop that through practice. You're someone else when you're around other people, so find out who you are.

Maybe you're all about the comfort and the good feels, maybe you like joking around and just having fun with people, maybe you like to get creative and discuss ideas, or maybe you're a leader and you want to direct the group toward some kind of goal.

Know and accept yourself and then try to find people you get along with.

[–]Senior Contributorwhiskey_bearfist 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

introvert and extrovert is more about how you "recharge your battery"

an introvert needs to be alone after spending time socializing, where an extrovert needs to be around people to get energy going.

trp and game is applicable to both groups. you may just need to budget your time in highly populated areas.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As an introvert, I sympathize with your position. I truly do not like large groups of people.

Frankly they suck. Individuals are great and all, but put more than three in a room at the same time and I'd rather not be in there as well.

Something that I've found that helped me IMMENSELY is to have a goal for the socialization. I'm not there to hangout and shoot the shit, I'm there for a purpose, something I can focus on in my hindbrain while I do the social dance.

[–]ekjohnson9 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am an introvert in the sense that I need my alone time to "recharge" but I'm very social. If you're not that social then learn to be. It really is a skill. Don't use alcohol as a crutch either. Spend your alone time working out and doing self reflection.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It all comes down to harnessing your introversion into certain, confident stoicism. Are you quiet because you're laid back and don't give a shit or because you're too nervous to say anything?

It helps to perceive loud alphas and one-uppers as jesters, while you see yourself as the king, watching them for your amusement. Obviously it's imperative to not cross the line to flat out arrogance in this social exercise. Occasionally ask questions and comment on the conversation while casually dissolving back into observation mode. Oftentimes an alpha can burn out and tire himself while your reserved energy can make you look more collected if you perfect this enough.

Reading up on sigma theory (the quieter, lone-wolf version of alpha) has been a great help to me too. I've had many different sigma friends over the years who pulled a lot of tail, and harnessing this path for myself has also worked wonders since taking the red pill.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Introverts usually have something they do while they are alone that is important to them. I think the thing to remember is that if it is important to you, it might also be important to others and from time to time the world needs you to share that thing with it.

I know when I'm out somewhere and I don't want to be there, my mind goes to my invention, or making up a song, or the web game that I'm scrapping together (it has taken a great deal of effort to rid myself of video games). They aren't exactly panty wetting things to talk about in bars so I don't bring them up in those settings, but that mindset is still there. The world needs what I've got, I've got to go out there and give it to them from time to time.

Basically you've got to find a way to channel those passions into getting whatever it is you want out of the world.

[–]ChaoticParadox 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Humiliate the fuck out of yourself already. Then you have nothing left to worry about, which means you can stop giving any fucks what anyone thinks.

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[–]Nemester 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aloof game definitely works. You have to get into the right position first though. She has to notice you before she can notice your being aloof.

Also, aloof is a funny word. I am going to say it again. Aloof.

[–]LifterofThings 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Uh... learn to fake it, for business/career purposes, if not for hooking women.

[–]projectself 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

alcohol is great "social lubrication" for meeting people. introversion is great "aloof game" for building tension and avoiding oneitis.

As long as you see multiple girls, avoiding getting attached to one, being a bit introverted can be a good thing.

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, without any details to go on, I would say work on being extroverted.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Nemester 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That isn't true.... It does exist.

It shouldn't be used as an excuse.

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