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[–]NeoreactionSafe8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Note: no medical, no government. I'm done with blood and ranks
Obviously the short answer is to find a technical area.
Are you really the techie type though?
Leadership in anything requires people skills and it sounds like you are what we call a "Natural" and have figured out the masculine-to-feminine dynamic that works and maximizes the married relationship.
With that understanding of humanity you actually make good leadership material.
Are you sure you can't be lured back into a leadership position?
I know it can be really shitty but my guess is we have a dozen techie types for every one "Natural".
[–]EnriqueShockwave90001 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Leadership is all I have. I've studied and practically applied psychology in my field and would certainly consider myself a "people person". Meaning that I have no issues speaking publicly, handling what could be awkward social situations, and have always used disagreement between people (fellow servicemen and friends) to drive conversation and to foster teamwork. I have no issue with being very uncomfortable. That's when I perform my best. So absolutely, a path towards a leadership position is what I'm really after.
[–]NeoreactionSafe1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well then you need to go at it from that standpoint.
My dad was in the ROTC way back in the 1950's, served in Korea, then got into government and politics.
He went back and got an MBA.
The MBA has been the "generic" degree for guys who plan to get into management which is where leadership is involved.
Unfortunately these days the SJW's have infiltrated that so now you likely would be subjected to complete bullshit in order to get a degree. And I'm generally against college now as a rule.
I ended up with two B.S Degrees and did programming work in the dot.coms... out of it now.
My best advice would be to just find a job that has some leadership component to it with some flavor of technical skill you know about then leverage that job into another later on. Build your resume by jumping from company to company until you find a spot you like.
When I was in banking that was seen as the "only" way to move up... side stepping between companies.
[–]EnriqueShockwave90000 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks. That is a strategy I didn't really consider. You've advanced my perspective. Kudos. As for the SJW aspect, I would love to hear how hard it is to be an American in America doing American things in your teens and early 20s. I'll update TRP if I see any of this nonsense.
[–]NeoreactionSafe0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
By avoiding the college scene (binge drinking, sluts, etc) and getting into a job you will get a feel for where you want to go while making money along the way.
For me my computer programming jobs were as a consultant (early 1990's) so I'd work a job for a few months then take some college classes.
Many colleges allow night classes for people who work days.
Rather than watch five hours of television and drinking a few beers you study and take classes. When you are young it's easy.
[–]BareFistEmpiricist5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just look online at the degrees that make the most money and choose one that aligns with your skill set. Payscale.com ranks degrees by average earnings immediately after graduation and mid-career. Engineers, programmers, & actuaries do quite well. Most of the majors with high earnings involve a lot of math and technical skill, so if you suck at math just study business, construction, real estate, even accounting isn't that rigorous. If you aren't good at learning, don't go to school and just get a job and hustle mega hard for promotions.
[–]EnriqueShockwave90000 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I appreciate that information. I've never been on that site before but it is very useful thus far. Thanks!
[–]pootinesque 7 points7 points7 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
STEM, in general, is the best area in which to go. Find something within that which you might find suitable.
DO NOT LET FLASHY LECTURERS AND EASY GRADES DRAW YOUR INTO THE HUMANITIES
[–]EnriqueShockwave90000 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Ha thanks, humanities aren't really my thing. I've been looking for hours now. Definitely leaning towards STEM.
[–]pootinesque 3 points3 points3 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Be careful with the choice, regardless, because it truly must be your love. If you do not love what you are occupied with, you can not be good at it, and you do not want to end up in a situation like that one.
[–]EnriqueShockwave90000 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well my love was jumping into combat zones to drag marines away from their untimely death while staring my own mortality right in the penis, but as you might imagine, that comes with some baggage. STEM fields seem challenging and practical. But law and public policy seems interesting as well. It seems I haven't made much progress on this pursuit today.
Academia is a whole different beast. There is a reason why it fills up with IQ=180 sociopaths. The military encourages a certain naivete which will do you zero favors in the academic world.
caveat emptor
Oh I've noticed. And I'm getting nowhere fast. Which is why I posed this question to the only sub that would look at my situation from the same perspective as myself.
[–]pootinesque3 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yeah, full of buddyfuckers who are brilliant at calculus and physics, and who are expert badmouthers.
It's quite toxic :D
[–]Literallyoprah0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Humanities are fine if you have a plan, but they won't guide you into a career the way technical training will.
[–]Limekill0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
if you have a plan
And that plan better be like in stone (agreed upon by each 3rd party): A-> B-> C-> D.
[–]CQC30 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed, the "issue" if you can call it that is most people just go into the humanities to coast, schooling and degrees aren't worth shit themselves, you only get what you put in to it. And majors/programs don't make you good, they can only stimulate what you're already bringing to the table.
Majoring in the humanities is incredibly impractical because you only learn soft skills. This isn't a problem if you have a sense of self direction and know where you can market yourself and apply yourself to, but if you're just clueless then you'd better figure out a way to enterprise your way into a niche. There's a lot of drawbacks to this though, school as a whole is a waste of time IMO, so if you're gonna go for a humanities degree (like English), try to minimize your debt in any way you can, because a humanities degree is not worth 30k in debt.
I've got a BA in English but my debt was minimal, and so I feel pretty good about the experience.
[–]RN_TH3_TRP5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Data Science and Analytics is a field that will prove to be more and more lucrative as time goes by. It combines statistics, economics, programming, and engineering all into one to find solutions and patterns within big data for companies at a high pay grade. I also think it has great potential to consult in once enough experience is gained so you can be your own boss and rake it in simultaneously (this is my long term plan).
There aren't too many degree programs yet in Data Science specifically, but there are some and more popping up every year. Just google degrees in data science or data analytics. A degree in engineering or computer science will provide you with the proper qualifications as well.
Not to mention it's super interesting to be able to find patterns and solve problems in dozens of potential areas (healthcare and energy to name a few based on the current election results)
[–]EnriqueShockwave90001 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely and this is one program I have looked into. I'm located in the Midwest and Northern Kentucky University has a data analytics program. Thank you for replying. It has reaffirmed to me that this is a worthwhile pursuit despite the frustration.
[–]RN_TH3_TRP0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I stumbled into this field by accident and I love it. It has the potential for me to pivot to a new area since the tools and skills remain the same throughout. I definitely find it worthwhile. Best of luck with your decision, I'm sure you'll execute once you decide.
That's excellent to here. I'm happy you're excited! Best of luck to you. I'll be researching it more in the coming days.
[–]bensimsjyg 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Could you talk a little bit about the day to day responsibilities of a data scientist? I'm an EE student that's thinking about getting into machine learning/data stuff
[–]RN_TH3_TRP0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'll be honest with you I'm more on the analyst side of things in the sense that I deal more with looking at the data than manipulating it. I do have coworkers that build systems in python to automate parts of our work to make things easier for us, and I'm trying to learn from them and increase my programming chops to be one of those builders.
In my role, a lot of advanced analysis in excel (think forecast functions and vba code). Running probabilistic simulation software to predict trends within the industry we do consulting in, using python to organize that data, and then creating graphs and reports to present it.
I'm hoping with a few more years experience I can call myself a true data scientist, but as someone who became very jaded with traditional engineering (I have my MSEE) during school it was refreshing and exciting to fall into this field.
I'm trying to learn more about machine learning myself and see where it would apply within my company but from what I've been reading there will only be more pure data scientists needed in an increasingly uncertain world with a lot of data that nobody knows what to do with.
Any further questions: pm me.
[–]Cliffhanger_1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm seeing a lot of people pointing at STEM as a good high paying career path. As a current STEM major with friends in many of the STEM fields I'll add what insight I can into the different specific STEM fields.
Computer science, my field, subdivides into back end programming and front end UI design. If you figure out what you like you can specialize MUCH further. You can earn very good money in this field, but if it's "just a job" and you don't actually have an underlying passion for the science then it's a very taxing field to be in.
Physics, by definition, constitutes the aspects of science we have clearly defined math for. It's usually very mathematically oriented, but also fairly straightforward. Many physics jobs are design/engineering oriented and frequently crosses over with uses in programming and robotics depending on whether you orient towards engineering/applied physics or research/theoretical physics.
Chemistry has much less math, focusing instead on molecular interaction. I personally dislike it for a number of reasons. Many chem jobs are oriented around pharmaceutical and industrial chemical research with a few in toxicology and forensics.
Biology is MUCH less math oriented. It crosses over with chem somewhat and is much more observation-inference oriented. Biology jobs are oriented towards pharmaceuticals, conservation, and research.
My biggest piece of advice if you're considering a STEM field is to make sure you have a personal passion for the field you go into beyond the job position. It will become part of your life and if you aren't interested in it beyond a means to make a living you'd be better off doing something else. STEM is by no means limited to the fields I have outlined, these are just good starting points for figuring out what you really want to do.
Edit: Oh, and fuck IT. Don't bother. It's a nightmare.
[–]1scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I'm thinking of getting personal trainer certification. Anybody have experience with that route? Not as a lifetime career but for a few years?
[–]Canadanial0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I took a Personal Training class in college(litterally trained you to be a PT and discounted the certification) and I took the ACE certification. It wasn't too bad and I thought it was pretty fun. Also you'll learn a lot about lifting so you kill two birds with one stone!
[–]EnriqueShockwave90000 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Definitely! Teaching is the best way to learn. So if you can teach others to get fit, you become better at being fit yourself.
Relevant experience: trained CSAR operators, became better CSAR operator.
[–]1scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I really don't need to learn much, I know enough about personal fitness from years in the gym. I was just thinking its a certification that could earn me some money and that I can fall back on.
[–]Tron100000 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Personal training is basically being a salesman. I had interest in doing this but didn't go through because I wanted to pursue other things but I think it would be pretty easy if you have a practical approach
I'm sure there an element of salesmanship to it, but basically a salesman seems exaggerated? Maybe I'm naive about the job. Anything you know would be a help. I'm trying to get both sides.
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Not even looking for big bucks. Just a change from my current job which isn't working out. A personal trainer certification from the university of Utah would be something to make a little money and fall back on. Long term I'm thinking other directions.
[–]evolveto0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Coumputer Science all the way, US is the mother of opportunities when it comes to this field, plenty of opportunities. To be successful you need to have good foundations in programming and you will be successful. If you don't like technical, second thing I would recommend is Management degree since you are a sociopath, do something in combination of finance and marketing, you will rise!
[–]yummyluckycharms0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If not medical, then that only leaves financial and consulting.
Bad news time - these professions typically recruit the young. Really, really, really hard to get into it if you are over 30
[–]Shubrook 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do you want a job that will give you power and respect? Power and respect come from being good at your job - pretty much any job.
Personally, I greatly prefer chasing money and satisfaction. I'm a database developer, and I like it. I have power and respect because I found my niche and I add value. Everyone I know who went straight for prestige has failed. Or become a cop. But I repeat myself, lol.
Seriously, though, what do you find satisfying?
[–]Valhalla_Man 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nuclear engineering is a good bet right now. Tons of investment in weapons and the nuclear fleet will need to be replaced soon unless we wish to gasp! use more carbon based fuels.
[–]Valhalla_Man 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem is that most jobs in it are government. Not all, but theyre more like DOE type stuff than anything military.
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[–]EnriqueShockwave90001 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Consider for a second the occupations I've listed. What would indicate to you that I wouldn't know what I'm talking about?
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