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[–]MrSnarf2632 points33 points34 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Meh. I think it's pretty good vetting if a girl waits a while to put out. As long as you can tell she wants to but is controlling herself for some sort of commitment first. These are the girls that you want for relationships. Girls that have gone to bed with me on the first date or 2 will do the same thing with the next attractive person they meet a year or so later when your old news.
[–]TrumpRules2016 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The problem is that there are women out there who will make a guy wait, but had a one night stand with some Chad, she met on a night out. You never know with women.
[–]sonicdrumm80 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The test would be asking them after confirming your "sex positive" mentality, that they never sleep with anyone on the first date. Feel em out, that's the only real way I could see it happening. If there's a consistent withholding of sex before commitment she might be worth it.
[–]1nonthaki3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem is that there are women out there who will make a guy wait, but had a one night stand with some Chad, she met on a night out.
THIS . It is inborn mentality in a women . Just because she told you she wants to wait doesnt mean she wont fuck other Chads and Alpha's who wont commit to her; but then if she CANT get their commitment , she might as well use them and get that kind of non-committed free-as-possible sex with them & also get attention(attention-whore) i.e social attention and also confidence from having fucked a Chad. Everyone needs to understand , in 90% of the cases of girls today , everything, even sex has some kind of a transactional value - The thought that you are manipulating her and getting more out of her and that she is getting less out of you is stupid & it wont work unless you are the most Stoic Alpha (i.e. not committing or catering to her needs for even a single second) . She is usually getting something out of you , whether it be money , commitment, fame , good sex etc. And her efforts to supplicate the most stoic Alpha itself has its own rewards like a confidence boost from having achieved it i.e. bending the guy to her desires or wishes slowly by slowly . In whatever relationship you be , even one in which a RP man has married a girl (which we dont usually endorse -> marriage) , you have to dictate the terms of the relationships always or you will be fucked over and over again .
Why the fuck should I or any RedPiller here NOT want to fuck her at the first time or date itself OR why should we wait for sometime before sex , when its damn well sure that she will fuck someone else , and with the current digital social culture like Tinder, Facebook etc, she could already be knee deep in cocks .
Most of the guys in the world believe that a girl has a normal sense of morality And that her biology wont dictate her actions . And guys , even red pillers still believe that . Even after some RP men marry some girl , a few years down the line , the girl would still fuck some other guy behind the RP guy's back .
[–]Robert_Walker2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This shit is more common than many guys think. Red pill indeed.
[–]1SeemedGood0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem is that there are all women out there who will make a guy wait, but had have a one night stand with some Chad, she met on a night out.
My wife has an n-count of two, her previous beta LTR whom she made wait until he committed (including the long-term plan to marry) and me whom she ONSed while dating him, then came back for more eventually dumping him /crushing his soul and then, over many years, turning me into the BB fool that I'm steadily leaving behind. That being said, she's actually turned out to be as good a wife as one could expect. Still...
AWALT
[–]sonicdrumm80 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]RP-Doctor 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only way to have the best of both worlds is to be the first guy who fucked her on the first night and then be the guy who she had to work for later on. You've got the AF aspect as well as the initial investment in you. This works better than other methods because, unlike every other one of her relationships where she merely had to sit back and decide when to open her legs, she had to work for this relationship.
Women are nothing more than the oldest teenager in the house. Remember the kid who was gifted a brand new Mustang on his/her 16th birthday? Now do you remember the kid who drove his mom's minivan around for a year and a half until he finally had enough money to buy a used Hyundai? Who took better care of their car?
Now, as far as figuring out if you were really the first guy to do that... good luck. The worst situation you could have is a slut who decided to make you wait to avoid seeming slutty. A little better than that is the slut who at least fucked you on the first night. A little better than that is the girl who makes everyone wait. Better than all of them is the girl who decided you were special and let you go where no other men had. In all cases, AWALT.
[–]1StoicCrane0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It all depends on a variety of factors. Women in their early 20s are more than happy to strip naked for males with Dominant behaviors and genes. Older women tend to hold back because their priority shifts from securing good genes to securing resources from a BB cuck provider. More often than not it's a no win situation. It's not a matter of "Is a girl slutty?" as much as it's question of "How many guys has she been slutty with?!"
[–]stonepimpletilists 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So many semantic arguments of base level stuff. Not a fan.
I wish there were as many posts on people hitting PR maxes on their lifts, or FR on approaches.
I offer a gentle reminder, that this is only as useful as the work you put in, action begets thought. If you are simply pondering what sluts are, instead of learning in the field, you run into a lot of mental masturbation and flawed mental models, which run into reality. And reality always wins.
Case in point with OP's post. Lets say I see his definition of slut, what do I do with this information? How can I confirm whether it's true or not?
I can't, not really. I can arbitrarily draw a line in the sane here, instead of over there. I also am fully in the frame of whichever woman I am with, looking for slut tells, judging her behaviour etc.
As an alternative, I focus on my mission, my frame. A girl starts trying to manipulate, and I'm full on Pook-mode. Puny woman trying to change me? Laugh, slap her on the ass. If she holds to it, wish her well, and carry onto the next one.
I know the idea of surrendering sexually is a good thing in a guys mind... I guarantee that doesn't happen, surrender implies a permanent state of desire. Ain't happening brother.
CAD put it best, which simplifies this whole post. A girl who desires you will find a reason to fuck you. A girl who doesn't will come up with rules to prevent you from doing it.
in [current year] making you wait is a tacit breakup admission. Similar to Mark Mannons 'yell yes' hypothesis. If it ain't hell yea, then the answer is no.
[–]harkrank 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You can use this information to better determine which women to invest your time and energy into. I agree with your last paragraphs, that's the message of my post, but waiting 1-2 dates for sex is ok depending on culture. In the West no.
You're a RP veteran and there might not be anything to learn for you from my post, but I see a lot of comments of guys dismissing girls having sex with them on the first date as sluts or dismissing horny girls as sluts, which is a mistake.
[–]stonepimpletilists 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah, fair point.
Self sabotage is a bitch. Soon as a guy gets what he wants, he treats it like it's not a good thing, and resents her for it.
[–]NeoreactionSafe7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you are not having great sex (and often if LTR) she is a slut.
The Cock Carousel™ is a pretty grim experience... for all involved.
The best sex is when she submits fully to you... deeply.
This only happens when she perceives you as "above" her in the masculine polarity sense.
Sluts don't really enjoy the sex act because she lacks feminine polarity... it's more like a business transaction.
And you can tell... when women have had a long run on the Cock Carousel™ they seem sort of burnt out inside... dead spiritually.
The best sex is with a masculine-to-feminine scenario and the woman has a low N count.
Old worn out women are bad in bed. (I'm 55... I've been there)
However... if you get a woman who is older and was either made a widow or was the non-cheating spouse they can be okay because their soul is still intact.
Sluts effectively have brain damage... like scar tissue of the mind.
Young innocence girls are always the most desireable sexually. (though with a true virgin there is a learning process that might last a few weeks)
[–]sonicdrumm80 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
True with the whole virgin thing, but I think of them kind of like a puppy, you imprint on them, especially an alpha male. That first reaction shapes future interactions.
[–]NeoreactionSafe2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, it really does.
For both sexes the "First Love" and it's breakup defines how you deal with the opposite sex later on.
If in your "First Love" your mate cheats on you then this spreads like a virus in you later on.
However, if you break up on good terms you tend to hold a more positive view of things afterwards.
These days because of Feminism (and Cuckolding ideology) the damage enters very early and people give up on a healthy LTR as a possibility.
We are seeing a world of poisoned people because of the Blue Pill.
[–]326432646 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A slut is just a female who has no self control.
[–]harkrank 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A natural female will have no self control if she is alone in a sexually charged situation with a masculine man who goes for it. The only self control you can reasonably expect is that she avoids those situations.
[–]ShavedApel6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Most women are sluts by this definition then.
[–]stephcurryftw9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'll be sure to not think of a girl as a slut next time when I've heard that she's slept with 50 guys in half a year simply because she loves sex.
I didn't include obvious examples, the aim of my post isn't this. If a girl loves sex she will stay with a guy who gives her a good pounding and not go try 49 others. That means she loved the attention. But you already know this so why even make that comment?
[–]CrimsonEllipse3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do not agree.
A slut is someone whose only value is in their sexual availability.
A woman who offers nothing other than a warm hole is a slut. She is worthless.
A pre-pill incel can be accurately described as a slut. They have an abundance of sexual availability, but no experience, and nothing of importance happening in their lives. Worthless.
Don't be a slut. The red pill shows you how.
[–]FleshFleshForFantasy3 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Every healthy Girls and Women love sex.
But what the difference is with a Slut is the lack of self control.
[–]Stevebond01 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
slut slət/ nounderogatory 1. a woman who has many casual sexual partners. synonyms: promiscuous woman, prostitute, whore; More 2. dated a woman with low standards of cleanliness.
[–]sonder_one0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A woman who uses sexuality as a tool is... a woman. If we want a term to distinguish those who are worse from those who are better (at risk of contradicting AWALT), we can make one, but the word "slut" is already taken and has another meaning.
As others have said, it means "a person with no self-control."
[–]ThatsRite0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sluts can be male or female.
They are people that ascribe nothing more to sex than the animalistic act itself. By definition, people who have ONS are sluts.
They have nothing more into it, than the act itself.
People who require more than that, are not sluts..
[–]harsha_hs[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why are you bothered if she is a slut? Why this post is not hamstering?
[–]electricqueer0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn, why do people delete the body of posts!! Need to learn to print shit out.
[–]Drogba006-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No no no a slut is just any girl that won't fuck you
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