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What The Red Pill Really Means

SW9876

August 1, 2015
17 upvotes
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Title What The Red Pill Really Means
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SW9876

Upvotes 17
Comments 23
Date August 1, 2015 8:57 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3ffz5r/what_the_red_pill_really_means/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/what-the-red-pill-really-means.35205
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[–]reigorius4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Very good to remind us. I have always found it a bit dualistic, this heavy emphasis on how to deal with women when it is being repeated that when bettering yourself on a wide array of subjects the dames will come and yet what do we almost exclusively talk about...? Women.

I'd love to read much much more about keeping frame in interactions with anybody, not just women. Or how one trains himself to keep his emotions in check. Etc.

[–]TomDemian5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'd love to read much much more about keeping frame in interactions with anybody, not just women. Or how one trains himself to keep his emotions in check. Etc.

It's not much of a leap. Just treat everyone like you'd treat a woman.

People could use TRP principles to get a better job, get clients, get discounts on goods and services, all sorts of things. If you understand the principles you can apply them to anything.

But you have to be pretty intelligent to figure this out because nobody seems interested in spoonfeeding it to everyone.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What a load of bollocks. TRP is game, TRP is unplugging from the societal narrative meant to fulfill women's sexual strategy, TRP is about spinning plates, saving your marriage or not getting married in the first place.

The fact that power is what women crave is the only reason why TRP advocates power in the first place. If power wasn't a defining trait of masculinity, we wouldn't even talk about it here.

What's happening is that you feel bad that getting women is the reason why you're here and why you're doing all these efforts in the first place, so you're hamstering your way out of it.

[–]SW9876-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

My post is aimed at people like you. TRP at it's essence is about becoming a better person, and by being a better person you inherently get better at picking up women. Women should want you because you're a fucking badass, not because you are a PUA or w/e. Sure, the things you mentioned are commonly talked about topics, but at the end of the day, TRP is about you. It's not about any woman.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP at it's essence is about becoming a better person

No it's not.

According to the sidebar, "The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men".

According to heartiste, the red pill is "the deeper understanding that women are not sugar and spice and everything nice, that they in fact have a strong need to be sexually overwhelmed and dominated, that they are fundamentally emotional and childlike, that their concept of truth is not the same as that of men, and that their core nature is not to be loyal".

According to Rollo, the red pill is the understanding of Game and Hypergamy.

Despite what the sub definition is, despite what the founding fathers of the redpill established, you have the courage to come claim here that TRP is not about women? That it's all about building power, or becoming a better person?

Do you remember why it's called "the red pill"? Because in reference to the Matrix, the red pill is about unplugging from a societal imposed delusion. What are we unplugging from according to your definition of the red pill? That we don't need power? That we should not become a better person?

Why am I rebutting you so violently? Because of posts like yours, newbs will arrive on this sub and believe that the red pill is just a condensed version of howtonotgiveafuck, fitness, personalfinance, the48lawsofpower and getdisciplined. They'll happily do so because they don't really want to confront the difficult truth of the nature of women and a lifetime of bluepill conditioning. They'll happily do so because they don't really want to have to approach girlds and face the risk of being rejected. They'll be happy being told that all they need is accumulate more power, more money and more status and they'll be happy and girls will naturally flock to them and stay. And after they do so, get a maxxed up SMV and they still don't get girls because they haven't started approaching them or they still get divorce-raped because they didn't see it coming, they'll come back asking us what the fuck happened and we'll have to tell them that they misunderstood what the red pill is: it is fundamentally about opening your eyes, see and understand the truth of women's sexual behavior (and then maybe do something with that new information if you want). And they'll ask why we didn't say so, and we'll tell them we did but too many fucking newbs just keep coming and posting noise in the sub about what they think the red pill is.

[–]thebroathlete2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I disagree, the red pill is a sexual strategy and it was based on that alone. Just go read the sidebar, ALL of it is about gender relations, men having issues with women, and men improving their sex lives. Seriously, go read the sidebar and it is about stuff like schedules of mating, sexual strategy, and confessions of a reformed incel. If I wanted to obtain career advice, I would go to a forum for that and no come to this sub. Advice about lifting? I would go on a lifting sub for that and nutrition sub for making sure my caloric intake and all that is right.

The red pill is a politically incorrect sub for discussing sexual strategy and gender relations, that is what it actually is. I am frustrated that men want to make this sub into something it is not. The red pill is not a sub where you can come to bitch about coworkers, boast your career achievements, and talk about how awesome your life is because you won some stupid little argument.

Downvote me all you like but read the sidebar for once in your life and you will see that the red pill is about sexual strategy, it is a politically incorrect guide to getting laid, none of that PUA nonsense or dating coach BS. Quit trying to make the sub into something it is not, it is losing its purpose because of shit like this.

[–]SW98760 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I haven't downvoted a single comment, I enjoy the feedback. Needless to say, I think you are off base.

[–]RuffRedder694 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Life is all about power. Power is the ability to control your life the way you want it to be. Very good post. Brusque, yet eloquent.

"Women should only ever be a compliment to a man's life, never the focus of it" - Rollo Tomassi

[–]reigorius2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I have made that mistake my entire forty fucking years. Jesus fuck.

[–]whenfoom3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You have made TRP too generic. TRP is more specific than you're treating it. It's about coming to terms with the fact that men and women have different ways of thinking about relationships. It's what helps men understand how their divorce was possible when they thought it was impossible because they were doing "all the right things."

You're leaving out a substantial feature of TRP: the fact that it requires breaking out of one way of understanding relationships and freeing oneself to see them in a new way. TRP is about a new way of looking. It enables a man to see what was irrational from a BP perspective (why his wife cheated on him with her boss) as rational from a TRP perspective.

In other words, TRP allows men to make more sense of the world. Where BP men will see irrationality and unpredictable cruelty, TRP men will see logic and sense.

TRP is also about recognizing that there is no eternal home of sweetness and love in the world. BP men are led to believe there's a bastion of relief in the love of women. TRP men know that there is no safe place to withdraw from the fray.

Yes, this way of looking at relationships does enable a man to have more power. But simply reducing it to power overlooks the fact that the metaphor is "the red pill" from the Matrix. The reason why that metaphor is used is because it suggests a broadening of the mind and a new way of seeing such that the old way of seeing can never be restored. Telling men to empower themselves is nothing special, and nothing intellectual. Acting like that is the heart of TRP is watering down the meaning of TRP.

[–]SW98760 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't mean to give a very specific definition of the red pill narrative. It's my mistake that it came off that way. My point is that at it's core, TRP is about becoming a better man, not about gaming women.

[–]Ihaveaids6969691 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, TRP will help you with women, but The Red Pill IS NOT about women and it never will be.

Yes it fucking is, you idiot. Read the sidebar, moron:

The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

The Red Pill is an extended discussion about sexual strategies with women. It's about women.

[–]thebroathlete1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

you did not deserve to get downvoted, you had a point, this sub is degrading because of nonsense like what the OP has posted and I will do a post on that soon

[–]SW9876-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is that? How is self-improvement degrading non-sense?

[–]netakomega2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Sounds a lot like Jihad to me. I'm new here, is there a lot of talk about conspiracy and the Jews on here?

[–]willowhawk0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always saw TRP as stripping away the bullshit that is forced opon us. The fact that allot of this bullshit revolves around women means that they're a highly talked about subject.

[–]musclebound920 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This needed to be said. I feel many come here with the intention of getting women or how to be better at using women, or simply to come here and have reassurance that there are other that are fed up with women. If you are someone that is fed up with women, congratulations. You are one of the lucky ones. You now have begun the process of ridding yourself of the one weak link in so many mens armor. So many men fall prey to women and succumb to their regime. Basing their entire life around women and they don't even know it. You on the other hand are completely separate from this frame of mind, and as alienated as it first makes one feel, realize it can be the first step forward in building your lighthouse. A solid rock in a vast ocean. A beacon. Ready to built by your and you alone. Absolute freedom awaits. Power and self worth. These are all that matters on this world.

[–]joshsoowong0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I find it easy to respect men who respect themselves. Whenever I'm around other people who have a sense of jokingness that is almost unbearable. I sense a feeling of insecurity and I avoid them as if they had the black plague.

Ease up. Nice post. Keep it simple. Lift on my brothers.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Have we been introduced? Who are you again, to presume to say what the Red Pill is/isn't, yet be a ways off the mark? I sense you meant well but are misguided, as opposed to a classic concern troll.

How about write and post the content you think belongs here, and build a reputation that way?

[–]HelloJapan1 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

redpill is about complaining about the social injustice against men and posting your AWALT stories all day meanwhile being duped into believing PUA is real

[–]SW98761 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You do you man. No one is forcing you to be here.

[–]HelloJapan1 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I check in from time to time and it's the same old bluepill/pua/roosh v manosphere type nonsense...nothing to learn from apart from sharing your AWALT stories about women

[–]LexisNexiss-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Almost like a state of the Union type address here. Good points

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