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What's the difference between being in the cock carousel and on the hamster wheel?

neubs

October 1, 2014
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Title What's the difference between being in the cock carousel and on the hamster wheel?
Author

neubs

Upvotes 0
Comments 30
Date October 1, 2014 1:21 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2hy5nh/whats_the_difference_between_being_in_the_cock/
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Comments

[–]DatCisco 27 points28 points29 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You guys seem to be upset with the sluts riding the cock carousel and yet you also want to be one of the cocks on it.

Your fundamental misunderstanding is that you assume men and women are equals in what they want and can provide.

Men are the gatekeepers of commitment. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Girls who go on the 'cock carousel' open their gate very often (provide sex) without their partner opening their gate (providing commitment). Because no guy ever sticks around, they have to constantly find another guy which ups their number by 1 and that's why they're "sluts." The more you open your gate the more "used up" you seem to the opposite sex. The same goes for men who fall head over heels in love with anyone (open their gate of commitment) and shower every girl they meet with affection, expensive dates, etc. They don't seem attractive to women, they look weak.

So to reverse your original statement:

"You guys seem to be upset with the desperate betas who will commit and have a relationship with any girl he meets yet you still want guys to commit and have a relationship with you."

In the same way the beta's desperation looks unattractive to you, a slutty woman looks unattractive to us.

[–]Isaiah4verse12 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Excellent post. Wish I could add more than 1 rep.

[–]rr_rr_rr1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great explanation.

You guys seem to be upset with the sluts riding the cock carousel and yet you also want to be one of the cocks on it.

This whole theory of wanting to ride but not liking it is a common complaint, but one that misses the point of TRP.

Step back, TRP claims (I say claims because it is hard to prove) that we've evolved as a species in a certain way, and that this evolution is stronger than the way we have been socialised. That makes the opposition to feminism rather self evident. But I digress...

TRP also thinks that modern marriage - and monogamy especially - is really counter to the nature of women (with things like Hypergamy which seems negative but is simply women wanting the best man they can get) and men (men want to screw EVERYTHING). Monogamy is, in TRP's view, in direct conflict with the vast expanse, the hundreds of millennia, of our species evolutionary history.

So a unicorn is really a woman who is evolutionarily unique, in that she is suited to monogamy, and a hamster is a woman who is evolutionarily common, and as such ill suited to monogamy.

This puts you into a cycle of having emotionless sex with mostly strangers. You say you do this for your ego.

Absolutely, and that's a big part of TRP - that men have egos and men WANT to be the alpha screwing everything that moves. MEN don't want monogamy any more than women do, and given the costs to men of monogamy, why bother with it?

Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks is both a critique of the way the work is and, in many ways, a statement of the GOAL of TRP - to be AF not BB.

[–]Ignatius_Oh_Reilly-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's wrong with a slutty woman provided you aren't looking for an ltr? I mean maybe it's me but I don't hate the cock carousel I just want to be one of the rides.

[+]neubs[S] -16 points-15 points-14 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I haven't heard "gate keeper to commitment" used around here. I'm not sure how many red pillers would still want to open their gate after learning about this. You've made having a girlfriend sound like having a pet to me. I can't think of them as "real people" anymore. Girls: The pet you can fuck.

[–]BloodyPhallus 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why have a girlfriend? Why pay for something that's free?

[–]neubs[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not free. It still takes time to go out there and get a girl. There are also risks involved. I'd rather just tug myself off so I don't have a boner for awhile than to go through the hassle of dealing with actual girls.

[–]Ignatius_Oh_Reilly5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Than do that. I never got why anyone gives a fuck if some wants to be a fun ride on the carousel.

You want a relationship. Cool. You don't want to have emotionally detached sex. Don't. Problem solved.

[–]teeelo2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I never get how some people think they are so clever and come to a sub Reddit that discusses the facts of TRP, not to add to the conversation but debate it or whine about their moral dilemmas.

[–]reasonableman16 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think most of the posts are upset with the cock carousel because they want a girl worthy to settle down with, but believe that All Women Are Like That (AWALT). They had in the past held girls up on a pedestal like shown in the Disney movies and were burned badly. Therefore, they acknowledge how women are and try to take advantage of the cock carousel so that they get sexual pleasure just like those women do. I'd agree with you that there is definitely schadenfruede about "the wall", since those girls with high sexual value who would not consider them in the past now have decreasing value, while theirs is increasing, or at least higher than the girls. The tables turn.

You'll note that there are just as many posts lamenting the fact that they cannot relax with a girl and instead have to put up a hard 'manly' front. They don't want emotionless sex. They want a woman that will give sex freely and wholly commit to a man who isn't a douchey a-hole. The point of the the red pill is to state that women are attracted to attributes that can be described as 'the bad boy', and women will not give of themselves freely to a man who is a "normal human being" with emotions and likes them back.

[–]SpinPlates6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why on earth would you blatantly admit that masturbating is a hobby to you...Yet sex is a hobby to us?

That's like telling professional race car drivers are silly and that racing video games are your hobby.

Also "I prefer the idea that sex is supposed to be about two people in love." "I prefer" I think subconsciously you know that isnt true, but you're tying to hamster it into existence. Bravo

[+]neubs[S] -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't see how you can compare yourself to a professional. Do you get paid to have sex? I'd say it's more like a guy with a sports car who takes it to the track sometimes against a guy playing videogames. Each have a different level of investment and they're both fun. I just think masturbating is more efficient.

[–]SpinPlates9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There you go. Track hobbyist, not a professional.

Annnd, I'm done with this conversation because you just said that masturbating is more efficient...No shit it's more efficient, so is eating Soylent every day for the rest of your life, but you're not doing that are you? You're defiantly trolling, no one is this stupid.

[–]mktees13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

it's quite hilarious, you have no idea what the hamster wheel is, but it's blatantly apparent from your post that your hamster is in fking OVERDRIVE right now

[–][deleted] 9 points9 points9 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]neubs[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Why do you think it's so funny that I don't wish to put forth the effort it takes to get girls to want to have sex with me? I still have fun too.

[–]theozoph1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I still have fun too.

Yet you cry yourself to sleep, feel empty and wonder why no one has ever given you "fuck me" eyes excepts uggos and creeps.

Yes, we see your hamster too, buddy.

[–]neubs[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So if you weren't getting sex you'd be like that? I don't base my self-esteem on whether or not a girl wants me to penetrate her.

[–]theozoph1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you could fuck, you would. You're not a mutant, you're nor special, you don't lack an instinct everyone else has, you're not enlightened, you don't have a magic substitute for our need for intimacy and contact.

All you have, is a hamster.

[–]neubs[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I still don't understand why people are saying "I have a hamster". I thought that I actually was the hamster spinning along on my wheel.

Anyway if I could fuck it would be in the context of a relationship where we took it slow and enjoyed each step in succession. I'd have to go on at least 4 or 5 dates before I'd reach that point. These are just my personal feelings on the matter.

[–]svogliate1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, here's why it's funny. Unless you're a faggot or a eunuch - which is possible, check your gonads - you want to have sex with women. Probably a woman or two in particular, that's how men are.

Alpha men stick their cock in those gals, the ones you want, at leisure, any hole they choose. Now imagine yourself coming up to that guy, the one who just banged the chick you want - his dick's still moist from it - and you're telling him the only reason you didn't bang her is because you "don't wish to put forth the effort it takes to get her to want to have sex with you." How ridiculous does that look?

That's what you've done here. It's funny.

[–]neubs[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well sure it would feel good to have sex with a girl but if I masturbate I don't have that desire afterwards. Hooking up with a girl could take the greater part of an evening and have various logistical challenges. Masturbating can take as little time as I want and then I can do other stuff.

[–]2RedPillSafe4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Red Pill has:

  • Free Riders

  • Masters of the Universe

  • Married or LTR

  • MGTOW

...everyone does NOT have the same goals after swallowing.

The Free Riders and some MGTOW plate spinners are the ones that keep the Cock Carousel going.

Married or LTR Red Pill guys don't typically Free Ride much.

The Masters of the Universe have the 10's.

[–]tombreck2 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Love is the feeling you get when you don't think you can do any better.

TRPers are always striving for the best in themselves and in others.

[–]neubs[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well sure but you seem to be placing the value of a guy based on who he's fucking.

[–]tabularaja2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys have to increase their value before the can catch a chick of a higher value. Who he's fucking is not the basis of his value, it is an indicator of it.

[–]120902051820254 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't speak for everyone here, but I don't ride the carousel, I despise the girls who do, I understand the guys who do but I think they are on the weak side of the alpha spectrum, and I'm much happier avoiding feminists entirely.

[–]Locastor1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OP you appear to be generalizing all of us as people who generalize about all women.

No one posting to the Pill disputes that there are high quality women who would make excellent life partners (even monogamously). What is under discussion is how prevalent those women are vs carousel riders.

Most Pill posters live in the Western Anglosphere, where high-quality women are in a minority.

Some of us don't live there.

[–]Isaiah4verse10 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What you are describing here is only a fraction of the evil that women display. But thanks for holding us to a higher standard. There's good reason for that. But you can still file this under "double standard". P.s. I bet you're real active at pointing out similar actions from women.

[–]2IVIaskerade0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The thing is, if I decide to settle down once I'm done with being the carousel, I'll find myself a younger woman and hook up. It's that simple.

We say you're on the hamster wheel because you're trying to justify why that girl isn't "settling" for you despite having fucked scores of hotter guys in the past. You're hamstering because you're trying to justify that "If I'd had the same chance to fuck loads of hot girls I wouldn't have."

Also, sex is purely about procreation, from an evolutionary perspective. Your idea about it is a relatively modern idea intended to keep people in monogamous relationships.

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