Why do muslim majority countries have high marriage rates and low divorce rates compared with western countries?

SickSociety17 · 2017-07-16T07:58:01+00:00

Because women have no rights. Women divorce their alpha, unfaithful, controlling men and then date the betas when they're in their 40s in the U.S. in Islam, women are stuck with the man they are given to.

mushroom_overlord · 2017-07-16T06:27:44+00:00

You may have "perfected marriage" by essentially forcing your women to stay with you (low divorce rates, but does that make anyone happy if its through legal force?), but I'd rather live in a society where women won't get killed or flogged for having premarital sex with me (or anyone, but I have my selfish reasons of course). Which is doubly good since I don't want to get married anyway.

Above all, wives are required to follow husband's order to have sex with him (although anal sex is forbidden), if not angels will curse the wife until husband is happy with her.

Angels are doing fuck-all about anything because they don't exist. So, assuming you are talking about an Islamic theocracy, if there's a law that requires women to have sex with their husbands whenever they want, and you invoke this law to get sex, you're not a high-value male. You're getting the same shit that you'd get as a Beta Bucks here in America, just more often. Contract sex might sound good right now but no one likes a starfish.

Meanwhile, primary responsibility of man is to provide and woman has to take care of children and house. Even if husband allows woman to work he has no right to demand his wife to pay house or child-related bills. In fact, husbands have to give pocket money to wives as per their financial ability.

So legally enforced Beta Bucks? Fun. Looks like shit's still better over here.

ShakaLeonidas · 2017-07-16T07:54:58+00:00

Isolation. Surveillance. Conditioning

Muslim countries understand a great deal about innate female behavior.

ALL Abrahamic religions knew what hypergamy was before it really ever had a name. They understood Briffaults Law very well and and understood that specific aspects of a mans desireable dominance to a woman are domain depedent. Hence alpha and beta are relative to environment.

They know isolating a woman and keeping her under surveillance limits her options. That restricts her ability to exercise destructive htpergamy. Hence why women wear hijabs, reside with the grooms family, allowed to only interact only with specific men. Must be accomponied when out and about, marrying more than 1 wife to induce constant dread and to have a 2nd set of eyes to watch the opponets hen house. Having 2+ wives induces a game of thrones scenario of cold war and spy tactics. That type of drama keeps them busy amongst themselves

Conditioning. Muslim men aren't out competing for ran through college sugarbabies, working women, baby mamas and post wall cum dumpsters. They pluck fruit early, before its bruised and damaged. Popping a virgins cherry automatically gives you sexual alpha status. You are the 1st. Getting a woman while she's young allows you to imprint on her mind aswell. You basically her daddy And lover. That imprinting is crucial. All women are imprinted upon and the first 3 dudes a girl sleeps with are the ones doing the imprinting on the woman. Women suffer from over stinulization and Muslim men know that.

They fulfil the requisite needs of female attracion because they turn briffaults law into a closed loop where each man literally is the king of his castle.

Women only love what they need. Arab communities place females in a perpetual state of need for a man and then ensuring that she idolizes the man she is with.

The conditioning of knowing that pol

DarkLonelyKnight · 2017-07-16T06:22:33+00:00

It's because your religion is still alive and well, and ours is dead for the most part. I was raised in a very conservative christian home and went to church with some really old school traditionalists. I've lived all over the country and seen a lot of American culture, but those old school Christians are almost the only people I know who are good at the whole "family" thing. They marry young, stay married for life, have lots of kids, and are somehow still the happiest people I've ever met. Most of our society isn't like that though. Christianity is basically dead in most of the west, and nothing good has stepped in to fill its place.

StantonG · 2017-07-16T15:51:12+00:00

If one were to translate TRP into a form of governance a system resembling the Muslim majority countries form of government would not be the result. Most of what passes for law in Muslim majority countries is government subjugation of both women and men, while men may have a better lot than women, male disposability is still quite alive in those countries. Muslims aren't taught sexual strategy as the basis to creating meaningful relationships in any sense of the word.

Gebrechlichkeit_ · 2017-07-16T08:23:56+00:00

Traditional family units are important for society to grow and function. While I don't support any Abrahamic religion, I do think some of the core familial values need to be reinvigorated in Western culture.

What I do believe is that all humans should be equal under the law. The initial Women's Rights movement was a good thing. It was coopted by feminism and cultural Marxist forces. As most people fall into some spectrum of traditional gender roles, it is necessary for our society to regain the predominance of those roles. This doesn't need to undo the Women's Right's movement. It is simply acknowledging that most men and women have different goals and find their power in different places. Our culture has a good chance of unfucking itself. It will be a painful process.

Islam treats women like shit and not in the game theory way. I could give a fuck whether or not polygamy is allowed or not. The bigger issue has to do with forcing women to dress a certain way, the fact that 1/4 of all of your women are genitally mutilated, honor killings, etc. Requiring women to ask permission to leave for work, go shopping, or go to school is retarded. Add to the fact the highest rates of inbreeding in the world exist in a number of Muslim countries. And I don't want to forget the "boys are for pleasure, women are for babies" thing.

I have read all of the sidebar and lurked here for some time. Nothing I have observed in Red Pill philosophy has to do with dehumanizing or creating slaves out of women. RP points out the negative consequences of feminism and how it has fucked up our society. From the sexual strategy standpoint, it teaches men how to get laid within the current framework. More importantly, it encourages self improvement and making strong men. This will benefit the individual and society. RP has nothing to do with oppressing other human beings. Western Culture needs to be reinvigorated as far as male and female interactions go. The Islamic world hasn't accomplished anything near what Western civilizations have. The Islamic world hasn't accomplished anything of value for centuries.

As for the comment you made below, "there are plentier people happier in brown countries than western countries." First off, there are plenty of white Muslims in shitholes like Bosnia and Chechnya. If people are so happy in the "brown" Muslim countries, why are so many of them coming to the West? In areas of Western Europe your religion has a good chance of winning. Not here in the US. While your numbers will expand here, you won't be able to take over. Leave us alone and we will leave you alone.

PaulMurrayCbr · 2017-07-16T07:04:52+00:00

Christian nations used t be like this too: strict marriage laws. Divorce was rare and very shameful.

The immediate cause of the change was no-fault divorce. And the cause of that was that judges got tired of the circus that divorce trials used to be: a divorce trial used to be like Springer, with each party trying to prove that the other was unfaithful.

Ultimately, the cause of it all was child support laws.

jurguenklomiken · 2017-07-16T15:14:47+00:00

Having a state/culture/religion dictate what you have to do is just a way to not have to compete in the SMP and the dominance hierarchy. Individual freedom comes with individual responsibility. Modern feminazis and islamists are the same, want to have someone else to provide stability for them. Let women be hypergamous and men be polygamous, get out there and fucking compete, fight for your individual rights, don't agree to shitty contracts that do not benefit you.

yonmaruni · 2017-07-16T07:00:08+00:00

I'm a practicing muslim and in my opinion a lot of red-pill philosophy resonate with Islam.

Meditate once a day? I do 5. Don't forget to stretch? Yes sure.. Fasting? Since I'm 6.

My only disagreement is most young red-pillers use these knowledge to get pussy and cash, while I believe there's more beyond that.

thr0w4w4yaway · 2017-07-16T10:20:56+00:00

Some of you guys are really fucking naive (resisting the urge to use a stronger insult).

They don't divorce because they can't. It is not in ther reality or control. They are literally objects of their men.

SilverGryphon · 2017-07-16T11:57:04+00:00

Islam has no place in TRP. As much as I am all about men's rights, I hate how muslim women are treated like absolute shit. Sometimes I wonder why western feminists have so much hatred, do they read about what happens in muslim countries, go nuts and lash at unsuspecting Western men? Could be.

And the polygamy stuff is absolute bullshit. Poorer Islamic men have even less of a chance of getting laid in muslim countries than in the western world, because a rich man can take up to 7 wives, which means that statically some men can NEVER get laid. In the western world your chances are better as you can always lower your standards and we don't practice polygamy. Moreover, you can always find a hooker, something which can lead to your death in certain Islamic nations.

Islam is a shit religion, end of.

THE_StrongBoy · 2017-07-16T05:46:21+00:00

Yeah, Islam has the control of women thing down pretty good.

The thing is, that doesn't make it the official religion of TRP.

First of all, I'd like to state for the record that God does not exist in any form ever described by humans.

The first religions were ways to describe and explain events of weather and human life. These were all multi deity religions. Egypt, Greece, Scandinavia, Mayans, Aztecs, Incas. None of these are true - the sun isn't driven across the sky by a ripped guy in a chariot, Tenochtìtlan doesn't descend from the heavens and kill everyone since he stopped getting regular blood sacrifices. Et cetera

When you look at it through this lens, for me at least, this is enough proof to discredit any and all religions, but let's go a bit further.

Any miracles or fantastical happenings by God only happened back in the ancient days. None of that stuff happens today, and it's chalked up to God works in mysterious ways. The Lord only helps those who help themselves. Very convenient.

So you're trying to tell me that the same God that got super pissed that everyone was worshipping guild idols, and set a bush on fire just magically chilled out and only works through tiny miracles that can be explained by science or attributed to random chance?

You would tell me that the guy who flooded the earth to rid it of evil men lets thousands of priests of his own religion rape little boys? Don't make me laugh.

Any and all religions of man are false. You aren't getting your 72 virgins buddy; it seems like a real good way to keep little Muslim boys in line though so they don't deviate from the nice religion that controls the population though doesn't it?

These religions were created to control people, and it did a really really good job.

Tell me about the goat fucking in the Quran too. What is it? You can fuck a goat in the ass in case of sexual emergency, but the goat is now a sexual deviant and has to be slaughtered? So says quranic scholar Dr. Zakir Nalik

When I first heard that I wad literally rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.

Keep your archaic religion out of here.

The west has it's own problems but they won't be solved with Islam so you can very kindly go fuck off to your goats sir.

FrodnarFancypants · 2017-07-16T05:22:29+00:00

You asked a question and then answered it yourself. Why do Muslim majority countries have high marriage rates and low divorce rates compared to western countries? Because Muslims know how to control their women. When you give women too much freedom and power you get the situation we have here in the West. Women are unable to think beyond their own interests and will rapidly contribute to the decline of society if left to their own devices.

the-capitan · 2017-07-16T10:54:15+00:00

in muslim countries, women face the consequences of their actions. for example, adultery is punishable by death. premarital sex is punishable by death. attention seeking behavior is practically banned and they must cover up head-to-toe in boring drab colors of loose clothing.

Mitchell78 · 2017-07-16T07:38:16+00:00

Even though there are a lot of things about Islamic society that i don't like and in a way its also somewhat gynocentric but at least Islam has something to offer to men where as western civilisation hasn't.

Memetologist · 2017-07-16T12:33:51+00:00

Islam is so red pilled sometimes I think you barbarian idiots are actually ahead of us in some ways.

desbest · 2017-07-16T10:01:09+00:00

First you have to understand what marriage is. Marriage is a price control on women. Marriage and monogamy was invented by men to ration women amongst males, because when women opt out of monogamy, they prefer to SHARE the same alpha male than to choose someone who is single. Women opting out of monogamy is destructive for society, but not when men do it. In the olden days before marriage was invented, 17 women reproduced for every man despite there being an equal amount of men and women.

The mating strategies of men and women are incompatible. Men are polygamous and women are hypergamous. Women always want to date up. Women find 80% of men below average and in western society 1/6 of the men have sex with 5/6 of the women.

Muslim countries regulate women's sexuality so that every man has a chance to get laid. The sexual revolution in western countries has resulted in over 50% of the population not having sex, the abolishment of marriage as an institution, rising divorce rates and has increased the divide between men and women.

Also add the factor that women get the house and lifetime alimony when they divorce.

THEDICKDEALER · 2017-07-16T05:02:10+00:00

You have to understand the west is a utterly useless society as a whole. They're nasty way of life has come full circle to the point where the average American man cannot find a wife.

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