You can't help the betas

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Kepaso · 2014-01-09T05:22:59+00:00

Well, it was to be expected, and i know you had good intentions but i don t see why you wanted to help this guy since

1- he's not a beta, he's an omega. Beta can get laid sometimes and have girlfriends. Omegas are in another world.

2- he's a stranger. I don't even talk about game and RP stuff with my beta friends, only with good friends who are in the same mindset as me. I tried to help a omega friend once, didnt worked at all.

3- He's a stranger on reddit. Reddit. Full of Blue pills that don't want to do nothing with TRP. They all think we are douchebags here.

4- the link you gave him from Rollo is good, but only when you are experienced with women and spinning plates.For this guy just the fact that he was in the same room with his dream girl is enough for him for weeks. He talked to her, stayed at her place for the night? jackpot! So you send him a link that says next her if she doesnt go to bed with him after 3 dates, it's some hardcore/douchebag out of this world for him.

I totally understand why this kind of advice seems douchebag though, when you are in his shoes. He's on some scarcity thirsty level that we never seen, a pedestal master. He sees love, he does'nt spin plates. He does'nt know that the same girl he s seeing could drop her panties to a more attractive guy after one or two dates only. At the same time we dont know the whole story, maybe she s a big religious nerd who s inexperienced and all this dating stuff is akward for her...

Anyway, funny that they always treat us like redneck douchebags or frustrated neckbeards. I'm so far away from this.

trudatness · 2014-01-09T14:16:44+00:00

If I wanted douchebag advice then I would have consulted the red pill. However, I do not.

Women are not objects to be used for sex. I want an actual relationship with her, not just a fling with her. Being able to bond with the opposite sex over common interests and being able to enjoy their company is a foreign thought to people like you. Although I didn't have sex with her last night, I had an amazing time laughing at tv shows, singing our favorite songs, and getting to know more about her. You should give it a try sometime.

Try treating people like people and you may start enjoying life more and not need to fill in the gaps with meaningless sex.

Says a guy who's never had sex.

Clauderoughly · 2014-01-09T12:26:54+00:00

Leave him in his omega orbit,. He'll be sad and miserable until he realizes we are right, and come to us of his own accord.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

I know you had good intentions, but with most people in that situation their ego is their own worst enemy.

johnnight · 2014-01-09T09:47:30+00:00

Although I didn't have sex with her last night, I had an amazing time

Poor schmuck. Girl is going to be disappointed that he didn't press on, when she was attracted to him. It's your job, dammit.

It's her job to signal that she is not easy and give you obstacles to overcome.

robesta · 2014-01-09T14:41:57+00:00

Oof. Woe unto this poor chap.

I can only imagine two scenarios from here, neither of which are very much fun for this fellow:

1) He becomes "just a good friend" and "cuddle date" for the rest of time, forever locking in the flavor of an emasculated orbiter; or

2) He does end up sleeping with this girl, causing massive oneitis from which he will not be able to escape; upon the ineluctable break-up, he will be devastated and obsessive for years to come (if he doesn't succumb to depression and do something truly stupid).

Experience is the best teacher, but, wow, the fall is going to be great for this guy.

Archwinger · 2014-01-09T18:10:01+00:00

The Red Pill is absolutely harried by misconceptions. People swear up and down that TRP is all about manipulating women, using them as objects, lying to them, and being an asshole.

What do normal guys do? They meet a girl they like, but rather than make a move or make their sexual wants known and obvious, they sit on their hands and act like they just want to be friends, hoping that if they act friendly enough and do enough nice things, this will manipulate the woman into liking them and wanting them sexually. They're the ones lying and manipulating women, but they have the gall to call this "treating" them "like a person."

You treat women "like a person" when you're honest with them about who you are and what you want, and when you assume that they're adults who can make their own decisions regarding whether they want the same thing. The Red Pill is all about honesty and straight-up behavior. The other guys are the liars and manipulators. They're the ones treating women like sex ATMs where you insert kindness in exchange for blowjobs. Those guys are assholes.

Rollo-Tomassi · 2014-01-09T23:59:55+00:00

Women would rather be objectified than idolized.

slcjosh · 2014-01-09T18:58:50+00:00

if you really wanna help this guy, find the chick hes orbiting and fuck her brains out. make it obvious so he knows, then he might just get the wake up call he needs.

lightfire409 · 2014-01-09T22:44:00+00:00

Oh yes the virgin is obviously the expert on female behavior.

wakingslowdiver · 2014-01-09T23:11:08+00:00

"If I wanted douchebag advice then I would have consulted the red pill. However, I do not.

Women are not objects to be used for sex. "

The only thing worse than being a sexual object, is not being a sexual object.

metalfan20 · 2014-01-09T07:49:03+00:00

You have to want to make the change. It's the best way to learn.

Rollo-Tomassi · 2014-01-10T00:11:33+00:00

Iron Rule #3 is some strong medicine for a plugged in blue pill guy.

Try Plate Theory: http://therationalmale.com/2011/08/19/plate-theory-2/

Evers89 · 2014-01-09T15:44:29+00:00

It's all relative really. He's never fucked anyone. To him, that's a gold mine. To us, were starting to worry and nexting is more than likely. Once you sleep with enough women, you connect the dots better and understand what's happening.

I wonder what he would say if he understood that like we do. It's just experience after all.

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robesta · 2014-01-10T15:13:53+00:00

So my thoughts on this. I agree with the premise of 4 dates with no sex is unacceptable most of the time. The thing that would be a red flag for me would be is if she's a reformed slut, which is sounds like she is.

My current LTR is with a girl, (a foreign girl who's a no shit hb9) who took me 6 dates and a month and a half to close with. I was spinning plates with other chicks, kinoing her non stop , maintaining my frame, doing logistics, everything. The funny thing was, after she finally gave it up, she was kicking herself like she never gave it up that quick. I eventually lost interest in the other plates, broke them and started to be exclusive with her. She's a freak with me, but doesn't have all the baggage of most girls.

That being said this guy is not doing this from a position of abundance and this will not end well for him, whether a month from now or ten years from now.

captainofmysol · 2014-01-30T04:21:24+00:00

True, I see this about my self. Even whining about how women treat men bad is a futile exercise, just like a woman whining about men is futile if she does not change herself. The world does not care, you must learn to accept yourself and do what makes you happy.The world does not care, YOU must care for your own well being and be honest enough with yourself to fight through delusion.

Title	You can't help the betas
Author	The_BitterTruth
Upvotes	24
Comments	40
Date	January 9, 2014 4:21 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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