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Anyone else feel like the more you learn about women nature and current state of western society, the less you want to commit to a woman in a long term relationship?

TryhardPantiesON

June 3, 2017
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Title Anyone else feel like the more you learn about women nature and current state of western society, the less you want to commit to a woman in a long term relationship?
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TryhardPantiesON

Upvotes 26
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Date June 3, 2017 4:39 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
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Comments

[–]vodkamonsta 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Pros and cons. I prefer ltrs because the sex is better, it's fun having a girl available to go on trips with, go out to dinner with... I'm not going to marry again or cohabitate again. It's a good set up, I'm honest about it. I know people are gonna do what they are going to do and if a girl decides she wants to get married or have a kid they're going to do it. The what is more important then the who. It's just not going to be me. Fair enough.

[–]alphabachelor8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Great answer.

Furthermore, most men I know that are miserable in their relationships are because:

1) They thought they could change (or fix) her. Their girls have the usual red flags. They found out the hard way you can't turn a slut into a housewife or a dummy into an Einstein.
2) They didn't minimize their liability. Some got entrapped into common law marriage, some into paternity through unexpected pregnancy or in loco parentis. What was supposed to be a casual fling is now a permanent obligation.

[–]Shaman66241 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But what we want to know is: Can you turn a housewife into a slut?

[–]alphabachelor0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha, have an upvote.

I know you're joking but on a serious note, it is important to find a girl who is eager to please sexually if sex is very important. I define a slut as someone who is very hedonistic and views sex as a recreational activity only for their pleasure.

Both have their place. Sluts for FWB's and plate spinning. Eagerness to please for LTR. It is important not to confuse the two.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I have a couple of open LTRs because the women have chosen to commit to me in the hopes that I will eventually "come around", but there is no need for me to ever co-habitate...when women say "But we'd save money!" they mean THEY would save money (or, more correctly spend more of their own income); no dude ever saved money by letting his g/f move in with him.

The only reason to co-habitate is if, for whatever reason, you get married, or if you have children, so you can be present in your kids' lives and make sure they don't wind up fucked in the head.

In the mean time, I'm happy to have several slices of different types of cake, as it were.

[–]AwakenedSovereign6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Can you expand on this a bit?

Do these oLTRs fuck other men? Do you care? Do they know about eachother?

Do you invest feelings and emotion? Does either party say "I love you"

How are these women seen in your life? Do you bring them around friends, family? Are they presented as just friends, something serious, or somewhere in between?


I ask of course out of personal bias. In ruminating about my recent cheating ex-gf fiasco I realized I should never have committed or invested that much emotion.. but she would have been GREAT as a plate or even something open and more long term.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Can you expand on this a bit?

Mais, oui.

Do these oLTRs fuck other men?

In general, no. Otherwise they would just be fuck buddies. One I am 99.44% sure does not, because she is painfully introverted, and the other one theoretically could, but seems to try to be a good girl. There are a couple of side pieces, as well. I like four as a number, total.

Do you care?

If they fuck other guys? Not particularly, although I have a rule about it, because it's better for them if they do not. Keeps their n-count down, keeps them from getting effed in the head about other dudes and keeps them from bringing back bugs. They also feel more valued, I suppose. But I'm not the jealous type.

If I was going to breed them, and paternity might then be in question, then yes, I would care if they fucked other guys. Any child for whom I am the putative father is getting a DNA test.

Do they know about each other?

They know I am not monogamous, but they don't know about each other, specifically. It's one thing for them to have a theoretically idea that I might be fucking other girls, and another to be confronted with other girls as immutable fact.

Do you invest feelings and emotion?

I am rather fond of them. Would I miss them if they left? Sure. But I wouldn't be devastatingly crushed and heart-broken? Nope. Been there, done that. Shit Creek. Up and back. No paddle.

Does either party say "I love you"

One struggles not to, but slips up. When she does, I kiss her forehead and say, "I know," and smile at her, warmly.

The other one doesn't, but that's fine, I don't either. She's struggling a bit because, deep down, in her girlish little heart, she wants to be submissive with me, but it's a bit terrifying for her to give up control. She broke up with me in February. I didn't chase her, and she lasted a day and a half. That freaked her out a bit because she's a hard 9 and guys usually cling to her and cry "DON'T LEAVE ME!" while she's on her way out the door. I didn't, and her hamster went into overdrive.

How are these women seen in your life?

My friends know I see a number of girls.

Do you bring them around friends, family?

My family isn't particularly near to me, geographically. My parents are deceased (after long and happy lives and a Marriage 1.0) so it's just my sisters and cousins and their various progeny. The ones who drop in are younger and hipper so it's not a problem. My friends who they do, from time to time, meet (typically guys in my band, or other guys I know who are ballers) know what's up and they don't do stupid things like mention other girls or ask stupid questions like if we're getting married.

Are they presented as just friends, something serious, or somewhere in between?

They are introduced using their names. People assume that I am fucking them, etc. I do have a certain reputation. /grin

Did I miss anything?

[–]RedKekistani0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dang Vasili living the good life. So how do you maintain frame, deal with shit the girls or your colleges/friends/whatever people give you? What would you do if the girl that slips up sometimes asks you to say 'I love you' back?

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So how do you maintain frame

I'm 49 years old. Anyone who doesn't like my life or how I live it can fuck off to Pluto.

deal with shit the girls or your colleges/friends/whatever people give you?

Why would I let anyone give me any shit? My colleagues/friends/whatever people know better.

What would you do if the girl that slips up sometimes asks you to say 'I love you' back?

They don't typically ask, point blank.

[–]AwakenedSovereign0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You hit all of the questions. Thank you.

And the longer term girls, raw or rubber? Are you cut?

So far your situation sounds like exactly what I need to build. I enjoy playing house, spending time with the ones that are feminine and fun, and sex is just better once you've had a chance to dial in and really explore.

But I become a jealous, possessive little beta if I am actually monogamous. Having "girlfriends" but doing whatever would fix all of that. Do me, do you, have fun, see you later.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

And the longer term girls, raw or rubber?

Neither is on the pill, so rubber, for PiV. One would be happy to be preggo and would 100% keep the kid. The other one doesn't want kids...yet.

Are you cut?

Nope. I'm 49, and much more "dad bod" than anything else. I am tall (6'2") so that puts me like top 6 or 7% for height, and, as we know, women select for height without mercy. I joke that I otherwise look like I'm made up out of 'spare dinosaur parts', but it's certainly true that I'm not conventionally handsome.

That said as an older guy who can see the Matrix, I know who to look for. Tall, introverted, submissive girls? For me, that's HOME.

So far your situation sounds like exactly what I need to build. I enjoy playing house, spending time with the ones that are feminine and fun, and sex is just better once you've had a chance to dial in and really explore.

Yep. Although I have a house because I wanted one, and I can afford it. I didn't buy until I was in my 40s. Prices and rates hit lows together, so I got my place at a discount.

But I become a jealous, possessive little beta if I am actually monogamous.

It is difficult to watch 100% of your pussy supply walk out the door, particularly if one is a young man. With age, comes wisdom.

[–]firewelt0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Condoms?! But they feel terrible!! Why not get them to go on the pill?

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The pill isn't right for everyone, and plus I'd be relying on them. Your Uncle Vasya is a high value target. It only takes one "oops" to stop the party. Plus antibiotics and shit can fuck with the effectiveness of the pill.

Also, the pill basically makes a woman's body "think" it's preggo. They prefer a different type of guy then. Many women come off of the pill to discover they married the "wrong" guy, i.e. some pussy beta. I have had two women go on the pill while I was dating them and suddenly I was the wrong guy, i.e. not the pussy beta that pregnant women prefer.

Solution? Well, that's why the blowjob was invented.

[–]firewelt0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But why dont you get a vasectomy?

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't want one. Besides maybe I will meet a 21 y.o. 6' fashion model who wants to bear my sons.

[–]RedKekistani4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Im very curious to the questions the other dude said as well

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

See above.

[–]raisins3142 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course. It seems that the more you learn, the better able you'd be to be in a relationship but the less likely you are to desire one. A paradox.

[–]TryhardPantiesON1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very true.

[–]_the_shape_7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely.

LTRs have some nice upsides though (as pointed out by someone else). I think sexual chemistry can continue to rise as you both learn what gets the two of you off, so there's that. On the other hand, familiarity does breed contempt too though (that's been my experience at least), so eventually I'll start to get irritated by her and I'm sure it operates the same the other way around, but great sex and a solid respect for personal space has a way of delaying that phase from developing.

Always remind yourself that any relationship you are involved in can end at any moment, without any notice even. A girl you met (and fucked) last night can fall off the face of the Earth despite you rocking her world for what seemed like forever, and your girlfriend of 4 years might drop the news on you that it's over out of nowhere despite everything seeming just fine a few days ago when you last saw her. That's one of the more important takeaways from the red pill - that there is no locking her down like the deluded blue pillers believe. "Putting a ring on it" or making her your girlfriend doesn't shut down her attraction for other men nor does it reprogram her nature to one of unwavering loyalty to you and only you.

Enjoy her while you have her, and remind yourself of this constantly as a way to prepare for either a (possible) drought (if you're not plating girls) or to repeat the cycle with another one.

[–]Willow-girl0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Putting a ring on it" or making her your girlfriend doesn't shut down her attraction for other men nor does it reprogram her nature to one of unwavering loyalty to you and only you

It can, but you have to be pretty damned awesome!

[–]landon0420 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it's always hilarious in the main reddit subs and shit.

someone says something good about their girlfriend or so and so

loads of comments, "put a ring on that!" "you better lock that down before it's too late"

always laugh my ass off at these losers, revolving their world around a wumin

[–]Renzotl562 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Personally i don't want to get married anymore or for a really long time at least . I've already done the ltr. Personally relationships take too much time away and i'm focused on bigger things that need all my attention(career school connections).

And i want to get my dick wet with all types of women from all races and ethnicities and travel a lot. So yea not planning on marriage. But if you want to get married you can still be trp just don't slip up.

[–]LordThunderbolt0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, at this point if she's not easy I don't waste my time really. The thought of investing time in a chick makes me laugh. I next them easy. I don't even care about get life, her last name, shit even her name in general. I just want to fuck.

[–]NYLON_G0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't even think about short term anymore. After a certain age women become intolerable. Behaving like they were in their 20's when in fact they are much older but no wiser. There comes a point where the behaviours have been seen so many times before you think they were all blessed with the same defective gene. I'll gladly pay for sex in order to avoid the shit that comes from relationships.

[–]TryhardPantiesON0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Been thinking of this myself, if i don't find women willing to behave and be submissive, then i won't bother, i will just find a hooker, get what that woman has to offer without all the nagging, and the drama.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup.

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