How closely do being alpha and testosterone level correlated?

PragmaticRedTruth · 2017-01-13T20:36:47+00:00

would it be too simple of an idea to up the testosterone level to being up a person's alpha game?

Don't listen to the non believers. The answer to your question is yes. Hormones! It's what drives humans on so many levels. Low T correlates to so many factors. Not to mention when your T is low, your cortisol levels are usually high (stress hormone.). Very rarely will you see someone with high T, have a spare tire wrapped around their waste.

Google, bro. If high T equals aggressiveness towards life (not just with women) then high T equals alpha.

Does this mean you need to shoot up? Well, that depends on how low your levels are and what your goals are. I have never used T, but I am also over 6 feet tall, and greater than 225 pounds.

T/determination and I have also got along pretty well. Even though I don't have factors that you typically see in someone with high T (a good sign if you had high T in the womb? Check your ring finger is it longer than your middle finger?), I still manage to do okay.

Go get a blood test to see where you're at, any primary care physician can run one for you. Then, take those numbers and compare them to men IN YOUR AGE BRACKET. Most testosterone research focuses on a large range of ages, in some cases men from 18 to 65. That's a bullshit way to base where you sit as far as average goes if you're 22.

Velebit · 2017-01-13T15:55:21+00:00

There is regular testosterone and DHT

regular testosterone makes you horny and increases your muscle mass and makes your skin oily, it is those "teen wanker" hormones that makes you feel like shit if you don't have a girl and makes your dick hard and enjoy gym and sports etc, it is the hormone that makes you wanna move physically, it is the mostly anabolic hormone

there is DHT, it makes your dick grow, it makes your beard grow, it makes your eyes grow big compared to your head size (google DHT big eyes), it makes your prostate grow and your skin dry, also it makes you have personality traits of "toxic masculinity" like being vengeful, sadistic, it literally is an competitive antagonist of oxytocin the hormone of love... DHT is mostly androgenic, while it does have some benefits for muscle as it increases muscle density

as you get older you can guess which one you lose and which one you get more, the best thing is that your dick cannot grow after early teen years... that is why older men lose lean muscle mass and gain hair and become grumpy and old leaders start wars and become dictatorial

men reach a balance of influence of these two in "their prime" around 27-32 after that, total testosterone levels start to drop off and evolutionarily it was rare that a person is alive for long, most of human history average lifespan was around 30-40 for regular folks, so getting to an old age usually meant you are nobility, clergy or a head of a big household (grandfather or alpha of family, with all assets of 15-30 people in those days) so your body needs less of eagerness to reproduce, less physical power and more status signaling (body and facial hair, raspy voice), you also go bald which gives you a look that in nature, without tools women cannot even have as they have no way to lose their hair without using tools. basically DHT is the "alpha" hormone for all means and purposes, women of various races have 5-10% of male level of testosterone while only 0,1% od DHT and if they get even a little they get clitoral enlargement, deeper voice and facial hair. for that reason best best steroids for women in sports are those with purely anabolic effects.

this later one if more in line with being alpha as a young overtly eager pussyworshipping teen is not really conductive to become alpha but rather to fuck the first girl and fall in love as his DHT does not block his oxytocin and reduce the sex-addiction and simping.

testosterone gives you "neoteny" effect (young, cute, virile) while DHT gives you "seniority" effect (respectable, important, not to be messed with), that is why you will see small guys who are very confident and aggressive and score a lot of women when they are young (still high testosterone) and than settle down with a girl who is their available best choice (DHT influence up, testosterone going down) once they are behind their prime. However you will also see a lot of most alpha men out there like mobsters and insurgents who stick to one woman, why? Simply because high DHT makes you wanna destroy life, not create it, and you also see fierce loyalty among those groups even to the level of them doing suicidal missions. Testosterone is the cheerful selfish fuckboy hormone, DHT is the dark loyal mafia hormone. Testosterone is more in line with r selection while DHT is more K selection.

This also makes it clear why there are plenty of beta nice guys who are very buff their whole life. Because being a gymrat and meathead has NOTHING to do with being alpha (leader), it just means you are the best beta (personal provider) around. Human species are not gorillas, the strongest one does not lead he does not get to own property and he does not command female reproduction, he stirs up shit and everyone else smaller gangs up on him and eliminate his stupid genes, however those same people SUBMIT to a leader. Those who lead are guys like Ivar the Boneless, Alfred the Great and Stalin and Roosevelt, all cripples and weakbodied men with strategy, or Napoleon and Hitler, average-to-chubby guys with great verbal skills who inspire others. Humans have evolved as a technological species because there is sexual and survival selection of organizers and not meatheads, that is why all people in their natural state are not buff, not even close to our full and unnecessary potential, fuck we even have a gene that reduces our lean muscle mass to around 10-20% of our maximum FOR A REASON.

if you really care about this you need to test your DHT levels as they are more indicative of how set you are to be alpha, however this is not as important as there are many women who are alpha and they don't rely on DHT or any hormone to be it. Also take into consideration that Hitler had only 1 nut and he was alpha.

ClydeR0 · 2017-01-13T10:41:33+00:00

Yeah, your testosterone has a huge impact, nearly on everything. How much muscles you gain, for example.

I felt the huge difference between both states. When I once cut down to 7~% bodyfat my testosterone was really low. It was harder to work through stuff, it was harder to want to fuck woman. Not because I didn't manage to get them to my place, but I could lie next to a hot chick without getting a boner. (I didn't watch any porn at that time). Now since I gained a little bit more bodyfat in a range I'm happy, the energy level is so great, the killerinstinct and everything else.

So hell yeah, when your testosterone is naturally low, try lifting heavy and lean bulking a lil bit. Beside that getting the therapy with testosterone from your doc. there is also doc testosterone on youtube if you want to check out the topic around it.

quicklogaccount · 2017-01-13T12:03:07+00:00

I have quite high natural T levels (First time I tested I was 29 and it was near 800 range, now near 1000 with dietary changes and DAA) and I'm still beta as fuck. "Confidence" is something I started developing after like 22 years old.
I don't have the symptoms for them but some friends do and they're also still quite beta. Honestly, I guess you'll never know whether there is a correlation or not. I suppose only if they test some folks and professions known to be Alpha's. CEOs and such.

empatheticapathetic · 2017-01-13T15:07:18+00:00

If you go on the main forum and search for 'alpha', 'testosterone' and even 'TRT' you'll find a bunch of threads about this topic. With a lot of in depth study.

The short answer is for the majority of people, more testosterone equals more alpha.

I can't find it right now but there's a thread there written by a guy who said "getting on TRT made me an alpha male" and he talks about how he thought and acted as a low T guy and after he became high T, how his behaviour naturally changed. Obviously knowing the redpill knowledge and not falling for bluepill bullshit is an integral part of your alpha freedom.

Tough_Luv · 2017-01-13T15:53:09+00:00

I firmly believe steroids make you primal. I'd be curious to see T levels in caveman. When I'm on I forget about all the bullshit and just eat, lift, fuck and work. Sweat is more dense and potent, and with certainty has the effects of pheromones (especially on tren).

I consider my life in two phases. Before and after steroids. Not for the physical changes but for the mental. More dominant, assertive, decisive, motivated, energetic, focused.

My n-count was like 5-10 before at 26 years of age. Now at 31 and 5 years on I bedded 29 women in 2016.
I've also completely changed my career which I didn't have the nuts to do prior to.

205->230 maintaining single digit bf Proof: http://imgur.com/yrORW0a

Arabian_Wolf · 2017-01-13T15:53:49+00:00

What about body hair?

I am hairy all over.

omega_dawg93 · 2017-01-13T20:09:58+00:00

i read long ago that there is a direct correlation btw test levels & criminal activity (violent crimes).

FvckYourSafeSpace · 2017-01-13T15:05:17+00:00

short answer is yes. there are going to be exceptions like anything in life, but if you truly have high testosterone or you are taking a large dose of exogenous hormones, you are going to be more masculine which means exhibiting more alpha traits.

anabolic92 · 2017-01-13T06:17:50+00:00

Zero, I take considerable amounts of synthetic testosterone and I'm a depressed little bitch.

Title	How closely do being alpha and testosterone level correlated?
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Date	January 13, 2017 4:35 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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