How do I do LTRs without being a beta?

__NOTORIOUS__ · 2016-07-19T04:27:20+00:00

But then they'll always be considering monkeybranching/cheating with alphas if they get the opportunity because they're just settling for the beta.

Plenty of married alpha's. Rollo Tomassi, the father of TRP, is married.

how the actual fuck do you as a male who wants LTRs and doesn't want to have casual sex "succeed" and not end up a beta bux?

By being alpha entering into a relationship.

It’s not a numbers game, it’s a non-exclusivity game. The goal isn’t racking up as many women as humanly possible in order to sift through the throng and find that one little golden flower. In fact that’s the key to disaster. There is no Quality Woman, that’s an idealization. Some are better than others of course, but you don’t find the perfect woman, you make the perfect woman. There is no needle in the haystack – that is Scarcity / ONEitis thinking – the point is to mold yourself and any woman who you do exclusively end up with into your own frame. This is a process that should come before you commit to exclusivity, not after. The world is filled with guys forever trying to catch up, control the frame and be the Man they should’ve been long before they entered an LTR. They spend the better part of their LTRs/Marriages trying to prove that they deserve their GF’s / Wife’s respect when they’d have done better in letting her come to that conclusion well before the commitment through a healthy dose of competition anxiety. - Rollo Tomassi

The Rationale Male

dark triad traits are not long term healthy relationship traits, they're just traits for fucking sluts. Well I don't want that, I want a relationship down the line with a non-slut,

"Dark Triad" traits (or just alpha traits) are attractive to all women, not just sluts. The difference is, sluts lack self-control and self-respect, so they get used by tons of guys and make irrational choices. The lack of self-control is what makes sluts bad investments. Even when they have a good deal (lesser-alpha), they lack the self-control to resist a higher alpha, throwing away their relationships to chase their hypergamy.

You will never be the most alpha. There will always be someone who's better breeding stock than you. You just have to be alpha enough. As you grow old, you'll likely sacrifice your freedom and independence for family and legacy. You won't be as alpha as you once were, or as other 20 somethings are, but you'll have different priorities, and ideally a women who's wise enough to know she's got good deal.

seattleron · 2016-07-19T13:18:45+00:00

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GarlicSaucePunch · 2016-07-19T13:50:22+00:00

I think you have a misunderstanding that can be cleared up with the following: Alpha and beta are not synonyms for good and bad.

SkorchZang · 2016-07-19T16:03:02+00:00

It can be done with some difficulty, by gaming the woman so well that staying monogamous to you is what SHE wants more than anything. In other words, you don't go exclusive because YOU want to (never do that), only consider it when that's what she wants and is willing to give up anything and everything to have that with you.

Women's promises are worthless. It's a bit of a downer, but that's how it is. So when she brings promises to your monogamous-commitment-store, don't accept that easily counterfeited currency from her. Not only is it easily faked, but there's also no backlash or punishment for women who do it, it's a no-brainer. So you don't want promises, you want ongoing actions that speak for themselves. Aim at vetting her that way for 1-2 years. When you do it right, she will herself suggest that she wants only you and is ready to be exclusive with you even if you are not exclusive with her. Capitalize on that, use it to vet. I think that's your best bet. Meanwhile, let her believe you're fucking other women on the side (even if you actually aren't). Most LTRs fall apart around the 2 year mark, but you can always see if you can manage yours better than most.

ppvknifefight · 2016-07-19T17:15:50+00:00

When it comes to the Red Pill, LTRs are where I draw the line, call bullshit and deviate from the hivemind with zero hesitation.

Now granted, most women out there are garbage and will ruin you if you LTR a terrible one. We've all experienced this in the past, that's why we're here. However, I do get why some of us would just fuck randoms forever. It's easy, it's safe. It requires zero commitment or serious emotional energy.

But we must keep it 100 with ourselves. If we desire LTRs, then the onus is us to be the best we can be, vet the absolute fuck out of our woman and let the chips fall where they may.

You can't be a grown man while worrying about the red pill boogieman aka Chad Thundercock or "hypergamy" 24/7. That shit is for lames and keyboard warriors.

There's tons of people out here in fulfilling, amazing, passionate and exclusive relationships. It's possible.

Following RP to the letter because of what might happen is doing yourself a great disservice.

2016-07-19T19:15:55+00:00

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JourneymanTRP · 2016-07-19T12:20:12+00:00

In the words of most grandfathers, "they're all the same, just pick one"

If you decide to want an LTR, you suffer from the pitfalls of that and you reap the benefits of it. Those pitfalls and benefits are pretty well documented here.

LittleRedBugs · 2016-07-19T08:03:38+00:00

I'll give you the short version. Privately, you beta the shit out of your woman. In public, you alpha the shit out of your woman. Not all TRP agree with this strategy, but it teaches your LTR that you will not be disrespected in public. Then, when she tries to abuse your beta needs in the home, you can stand strong as the provider and the security she needs, whilst in public, you are the dominant male that every other woman wants. This is my mentality. Abundance mentality, especially in private with your LTR, and then a strong as fuck Dread game in the public eye.

This is a short version, I'd love to shoot messages with you if you'd like a more encompassing explanation.

A true romantic knows how to imitate beta traits to obtain alpha goals. It's not dishonest. It's just the society that women have been fucking up for 1000s of years. Gotta roll with the punches.

Title	How do I do LTRs without being a beta?
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Date	July 19, 2016 3:52 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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