Resistance from a Plate

redbluepilling · 2013-10-21T01:06:16+00:00

Any guy can be blindly aggressive, it doesn't mean it always works...you just need to better your LMR game, avoid playing her waiting game (she's trying to snag you and put you in a box--remember, you should put her in the box if anything), and think about getting her to want you sexually, no matter what.

Oh, and from experience in a similar scenario...get the idea of a LTR out of your head, especially at this stage. Women don't want a tiger so easily caged.

mrust · 2013-10-20T16:43:18+00:00

It's not the aggression that is the problem, it's that your push-pull needs better calibration. There's no danger that she wants to put you in the friend zone because you haven't been sexual with her - that would indicate a need for more aggression.

My suggestion would be to escalate more gradually, and when she resists pull back just a little a bit and tease her some more.

You did ok with "That's fine" which was at odds with your physical escalation, but you could have done better.

Here's a couple of ways to handle objections:

Agree and Amplify: You're right, we definitely shouldn't be doing this.... You can take this in many directions:

"...We'll be in danger of having a good time."

"...I want to bite your neck, but I probably shouldn't do that either." (as you bite her neck)

"...We shouldn't be doing this either..." etc. escalate

Be super-explicit about what you are going to do to her.

Qualify her

"You seemed like the kind of girl who knows what she wants, now I'm not so sure."

Flip the script

"Of course we're not having sex, you haven't wined and dined me yet."

Freeze her out

I'm sure you can read up on how to do this.

Read Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder

I suspect your escalation may not be gradual enough. Pay special attention to the part where you lift up her shirt.. I think you might be skipping too many steps. Also pay attention to the concept of plausible deniability. When you rub her through her jeans, you want to do it in such a way that it almost seems to be accidental.

It's also possible that she has some "rule" in mind that you have to meet before she will have sex with you. The most common one girls have is no sex before the third date, which is past due. Hopefully she's not the no sex until marriage kind of girl. Girls will bend their rules if they really like you, but sometimes it's less effort just to meet their criteria.

Other than the above, just keep doing what you're doing and keep escalating. Also keep going after other girls. She will either accept that sex is a healthy and normal part of the relationship or you will find someone else.

One last thing... LMR is an indicator that you didn't build enough rapport. Just relate to her, lead her emotions, and given time you will stop getting this kind of resistance.

acoti · 2013-10-20T16:55:27+00:00

She may actually really like you and doesn't want to jeopardize the possibility of a relationship by moving too fast.

Captain_of_the_ship · 2013-10-20T11:37:48+00:00

Classic LMR. Dude, it's been 5 dates and still no action? How long are you going to hang in there?

Yeah, I get it, she's a keeper because she didn't look at her phone etc. But time to shit or get off the pot, don't you think?

Read up about escalation. There was the stuff that the TokyoJoe (or whatever his name is) about LMR, it was gold but of course got trash-talked here on reddit. But he knows his stuff.

Good luck! Update pls.

frequentlywrong · 2013-10-20T05:48:04+00:00

there is a ton of info out there on how to overcome LMR.

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upright619 · 2013-10-20T09:08:22+00:00

I wouldn't push for sex if I was you.

I've slept with a handful of girls by pushing so far as you did. They actually caved and gave me sex. But after some time it's just an ice-cream flavour, if I don't get it, I won't die or be unhappy.

I have met so many girls who are constantly messaging other guys and checking their hair on their iPhones whilst on a date with me. Sometimes even calling people and having long calls on a date with me. I show my appreciation to girls by not answering my phone and texting. If another girl does the same. She gets into my 'I won't pump and dump this one' book. I'm slightly jealous of you. This girl actually shows you respect. There are not many of them. Please don't lose this one.

In addition some girls want a man to organize all the logistics. "Come pick me up!" And get you to drive all the way to the other side of the city when they know it's inconvenient for you. Their mind-set is 'I don't care, he asked me out, he has to show me a good time even if it takes him an hour to get to me and another hour to drop me off, he can organize the petrol money on his own'. But I can see your girl makes it so easy for you to meet her and works with you on the logistics together.

This girl genuinely want to take it to the next level with you. You will have sex with her, bec

Title	Resistance from a Plate
Author	40Watts
Upvotes	10
Comments	20
Date	October 20, 2013 4:22 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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