| Upvotes | Title | Category | Author | Subreddit | Date (UTC) |
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| 48 | Social experiment in 1920's Russia designed to destabilize the family unit has relevance to today's western world. | Red Pill Theory | mrust | /r/TheRedPill | 25/02/14 02:39 PM |
| 42 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words? | Ask Red Pill | mrust | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 06:28 PM |
| 35 | FR: Escaping the friend zone with an ex-LTR | Field Report | mrust | /r/TheRedPill | 16/06/14 01:59 AM |
| 6 | Logistics - "Can we meet closer to my place?" My sticking point | mrust | /r/trpGAME | 14/05/14 12:35 AM | |
| 3 | You would think that betas have the most propensity for bluepill behaviour, but I present to you the gamma. | Blue Pill Example | mrust | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 01:50 AM |
| 1 | How does advice like this get upvoted to the top comment - What to remember on a date? | Blue Pill Example | mrust | /r/TheRedPill | 05/10/13 01:00 AM |
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| 2 | 2 years later I can’t get over her. What are the remedies?GFTOW | /r/askTRP | 07/08/20 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill recommended movies?Mud | /r/askTRP | 14/07/20 02:19 PM |
| 3 | The Difficulty of Breaking Your ConditioningThis is good advice. I think the opening paragraph was good but then OP got caught up in his examples without relating them back to the main point. Conditioning is hard to break for two reasons: lack of awareness (relying on default behaviour), and novel situations (loss of frame). OP could have given a succinct example of each. I think it’s more important to present strategies on how to overcome these difficulties instead of just the tactics suited for the specific examples given. Above is just… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/07/19 02:02 PM |
| 8 | Used fat friend to get to hot friend and now the "girl code" has been activated.You should have used girl code against her - "she's just a friend, I don't think of her that way" It will fit a trope that she is familiar with, so she is more likely to accept it. Put the fattie in the friendzone. | /r/askTRP | 05/04/19 08:02 AM |
| 5 | Breakup/end LTR because of sexual incompatibility?Been in a similar situation, and I chose to end it. It's a legit move. However, after the fact I realized my game was just not up to par. You are making all kinds of mistakes. Pressuring her and putting the focus on her orgasm is just going to make her more anxious and make the problem worse. Are you using enough push and dread game? Dread game should be subtle but if all you are doing is pull, then you are the one chasing and she's just not going to get in the mood. You need to polarise her. It… | /r/askTRP | 26/03/19 11:50 AM |
| 2 | Why do they give a long-winded explanation as to why they can't meet?Excessive detail is a sign of lying. Not 100% of course, and better than radio silence. Watch what she does not what she says. | /r/askTRP | 21/03/19 12:05 PM |
| 23 | Ltr called me a bad boyfriend because I didn't do her a favorI've fallen into this trap countless times because it is simply the default mode of behavior for nice guys. When you are trying to build your spine and learning to say "no" there's a lack of congruency - the key is in the word "trying". You have to remember that when you are in a reactive mode you've already fallen into her frame. You only made her entrench her position by giving her argument something to latch onto. a good boyfriend would warm my car up for me - Let me know when you've found on… | /r/askTRP | 06/03/19 12:35 PM |
| 44 | Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Underpaying Many Men (NY Times)Facts do contradict the subjective experience of women. As a consequence, the subjective experience of women should be discounted to align with reality. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/03/19 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill way to explain a resume gap?This is good without getting into details, but I'd also make it clear that it was a one-time thing (not a chronic condition) otherwise person will dismiss you, why take the risk of the same thing happening again? | /r/askTRP | 26/01/19 09:59 AM |
| 1 | Should you always try to be closing on the first date?Always be closing | /r/askTRP | 08/07/18 12:06 PM |
| 1 | How does an Alpha deal with aggressive guys?Yep this is correct. My point was that the law varies based on jurisdiction. In a case of self-defense, of course you fight back and then deal with the legal consequences later. Rule of law is different from this golden rule you generalised to and the details matter. I've been in a situation where I swung first and it was absolutely self defense (I was surrounded). | /r/askTRP | 03/06/18 06:59 PM |
| 4 | Guys who spend a lot of time dating new girls, how do your dialogues look like?Yes I studied public speaking for a while and did improv comedy to improve my story telling skills. Most important: Have a basic structure (similar to a joke): Setup Conflict Twist or Resolution If your stories are "we did this, and then I did that and then this other thing happened" then you are rambling, not telling a story. The kinds of stories you tell should also demonstrate something about your personality - Are you a risk taker? Are you a leader? Open to new experiences? Once you get the … | /r/askTRP | 03/06/18 06:41 PM |
| 2 | Guys who spend a lot of time dating new girls, how do your dialogues look like?Why are you classifying 1/3 of your conversation as neutral/boring? If you are telling a story, you better have some point to it not just telling her what you did like you are reading a shopping list. Just fix up your storytelling skills and carry on. | /r/askTRP | 03/06/18 03:58 PM |
| 2 | How does an Alpha deal with aggressive guys?Golden rule is they swing first. Then you get the absolute legal ability to beat the shit out of them. Nope, depends on the country don't listen to this unless you want to end up in prison. In most places you have a legal obligation to retreat. Unless you demonstrate that it was impossible to disengage (happened too fast) or you were protecting someone then playing the self-defense card is problematic. | /r/askTRP | 03/06/18 09:37 AM |
| 5 | I can't help myself. I have to be the 1000th person to say this. But for the love of fuck. Just fucking lift.I had similar problems. Focus on getting your mobility up before you even start on deadlifts and rows. Can you comfortably sit on the floor without rounding your back? If you can't stay in the proper position for the full range of motion (looking at deadlift and back squat here), you will overwork other muscles and that's where the pain comes from. Get a personal trainer even if it's only once a week. Look around for the guy who is actively correcting the form of his clients, not just pushing th… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/06/18 09:25 AM |
| 27 | Update : GF posted a status of her in some guys car. How should I respond?OP should remain indifferent. Agreed - ghost, but also block her on phone and social media. For OP: The confrontation didn't work the first time, so why even give her an opportunity to get inside your head? | /r/askTRP | 26/05/18 04:54 PM |
| 3 | askTRP Megathread April 11I've spent 3 of the past 10 years backpacking in between contract work. You get a wider perspective especially coming from a western background. You haven't seen real poverty until you actually visit a 3rd world country. It's not as hard as people think. If you go back in time 100 years you really had to be a trailblazer to travel. Now you have access to GPS, instant payments, etc... It's fear of the unknown more than anything that stops people from seeing more of the world. Especially if you fe… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/04/18 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Had a hookup night, she texted me this morning saying how she don't like to hookup with guys on the first date. Need help in a response.https://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/ | /r/askTRP | 06/03/18 07:09 AM |
| 1 | Had a hookup night, she texted me this morning saying how she don't like to hookup with guys on the first date. Need help in a response.You ignore the statement not the girl. Just re-engage the next day as if she hadn't said anything at all; stay positive just change the topic. If she keeps harping on about it, pressure flip, a&a or ignore. | /r/askTRP | 05/03/18 06:37 PM |
| 3 | "Assuming the sale" reply?Callback humour? If in some context it made sense to call her that when he originally met her. | /r/askTRP | 17/02/18 05:10 PM |
| 7 | "Assuming the sale" reply?if you promise not to step on my feet let's meet up for drinks. What's your schedule? I'm free next week. The opener was bad but this is what killed OP. Assuming the sale means you pre-suppose her agreement, "I am going dancing on Wednesday, think you can keep from stepping on my feet?". /u/redhawkes nailed it, works best in person. Notice I just reworked the OPs words into a more useful context. Also he is free ALL week? Texting is for logistics but it's better to play it out slowly. 1) Probe f… | /r/askTRP | 17/02/18 05:05 PM |
| 5 | When I get closer to a girl, other males try to interfere. How can I deal with this?He came closer and hugged both of us. I took it as a joke and hugged them both in response. Weak response. She was already on your side and you accepted his weak frame. Don't accept his hug, but also don't get confrontational. Just put your body (side-on) in between him and her and then tell him he can look, but touching costs extra. Or just take her by the hand and say "let's go over there." He'll look like a weak chump if he tries to follow. The common thread I see is that you don't know how t… | /r/askTRP | 04/02/18 03:00 PM |
| 1 | The Humiliation of Aziz AnsariObjective reality. Two people are sitting on a bus. Nothing happens. One of them is crazy. You can only make judgements based on actions that are externally observable. Did the man approach her, did he make contact? Did she ask him to leave? Did he trap her and prevent her from leaving? This constitutes evidence. Maybe you were talking about the second (assault) example. In that case the criminal standard is the reasonable person standard. Did the accused exercise average care, skill, and judgem… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/02/18 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Situation at work, not related to a womanRespond to the invite. Decline the meeting, but in your response say that due to resource constraints you can't commit to this project, without reprioritisation by (your actual manager). cc your manager in your response. | /r/askTRP | 01/02/18 05:15 PM |
| 36 | The Humiliation of Aziz AnsariBeing creeped out is a purely internal phenomenon. That was the entire point of his post. Emotional reality for feminists trumps actual reality. It was the perfect example and you missed it because of how illogical it is. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/18 05:30 AM |
| 4 | Coworkers and favorsSimple, ask them to put in the work first, like the review in your example. The real parasites are so used to doing nothing that they can't even get started with the bare minimum. In that case give them a concrete task and don't help them until they've finished it. If you find yourself doing work for them and they aren't learning then stop. Also stop if you ask them for a favor in return and they blank you. Don't beg them to do anything and don't present it as a trade. If they don't reciprocate … | /r/askTRP | 11/01/18 08:58 PM |
| 65 | A female coworker came back from holidays and I asked where she went, and another girl there intervened with “it’s her fucking business....”. How do you deal with disrepsectful shit like that?"What a weird way to join a conversation." Then comment on what you did over the holidays so that your original girl is socially pressured to respond. If rude girl escalates comment on how she must be desperate for attention. | /r/askTRP | 10/12/17 03:49 PM |
| 1 | If your girlfriend let it slip she's "had bigger" than you, would you end it?Agree with everything you said, but you didn't answer his question. Yes, don't let it fuck with your head or your frame, and the size of your dick is ultimately not that big a deal. But he had GF in the title.. This is a shit test I would expect from a ONS or a plate, not a GF. I'd demote her to where she belongs. | /r/askTRP | 04/11/17 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Where are the "no go" places where it's fundamentally creepy/awkward to approach women? Is the subway an example? What are other examples?To answer your question: Basically avoid being overtly sexual any place where the woman feels she can't get away from you: elevator, bus, subway, etc... However, the bigger issue is: Your friends are giving you conflicting advice because they don't have the framework or experience to approach, and you are taking all their statements at face value. You will fuck yourself up if you think people are being straight with you and use that to formulate your worldview. The only way forward is to avoid p… | /r/askTRP | 24/10/17 11:25 AM |
| 2 | askTRP Megathread October 18How and when do you transition from treating a girl in a way that she doesn’t feel like she is a whore to treating her like the slut she is? The obvious answer is when she is turned on enough and naked. Any nuances you can share? Girls will pull all kinds of comfort and shit tests to avoid feeling cheap, and also paradoxically get turned on when you treat them like sluts. Is there a frame you can present that straddles that thin line or is it a matter of getting buy-in before progressing to risk… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/10/17 11:54 PM |
| 3 | On Initiating Social shit vs. being invited, how to expand and what to expectIt's a great question and you wrote it up nicely, probably why you have 100% upvotes. I'm hoping someone who has already gone through this kind of phase and come out the other side can provide advice. I've got three or four circle of friends, all based around different activities I'm involved in. One of them we get together regularly but not often (once every 2 months) but the people there are solid and we will invite each other around casually. Another group I do a lot of the leading but people… | /r/askTRP | 16/08/17 08:13 AM |
| 2 | Pregnant woman at the office tried to boss me around and when I refused to cave in, the other women "jumped" me... wtf?Exactly. This will be so easily taken out of context and then you are on the backfoot explaining yourself. Pretty funny, wouldn't use it at work though. | /r/askTRP | 18/06/17 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Got fired and rehired by understanding, accepting, and asking a small favor.No notice period on the contract? I've seen anywhere from none, called "at will" employment in the US to up to 3 months where the person had to keep coming in even though there was no work to be done. It sounds like the company was falling apart so maybe they just didn't have the resources to come after you. If you had no notice period then it was stupid of them to even tell you that you were training your replacement. Or maybe the penalties for breaking the contract were just a lack of severanc… | /r/TheRedPill | 09/06/17 10:41 AM |
| 1 | From Professor and Clinical Psychologist Jordan B. Peterson on Beta Males and the Dominance HierarchyThis middle ground view is exactly what allows extremists to legitimize their views. Google Overton Window. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/05/17 01:09 AM |
| 6 | I stood my ground with a woman at work and she attacked me behind my back to the others all day... how can I respond to this now?He meant you responded to her texts. I'll never bother you again at home, considering I was here at work while you were on holidays too busy to do the assignment You either ignore this or respond with something like "great, glad we could reach a resolution" Instead you confronted her directly and handed her amunition. This is frame control. You set the boundaries (don't bother me while I'm on holiday) and then anything that does not contribute to this frame is ignored. | /r/askTRP | 26/04/17 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Situation(beta male became hyper-aggressive, could not physically respond due to location)You should't speak to him again and it was a waste of time trying to explain your side of anything. When he ran up to you you could have just said the first thing that naturally came to your mind which was: "you look like you just did a line of coke". Then backturn and ignore. Or you could have told him he doesn't sound like a very tolerant person, if that amuses you, but do you really want to keep talking to this nutjob? | /r/askTRP | 20/04/17 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Saw this gem on Quora todayThis is why game matters. The problem is that when the girl says no to a date (for example) you are being put in a double bind. If you keep chasing you are losing attraction and frame. The correct answer is: Utilize game so that You are hanging out together instead of asking her on a date You are ignoring the stupid words that come out of her mouth (as OP rightly pointed out) You are able to reframe the situation so that she is the one chasing you | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/17 10:19 PM |
| 2 | How to not go into "flight" response when confronting someone?This is like overcoming any fear. Exposure in small doses may help; you don't even have to do it in the same domain. Realising that it's all in your head. Ask yourself: what's the worst that can happen? I used to be very scared of dogs and confrontations, as you wrote. I've been told a German sheppard attacked me when I was very young, but I never remembered it. But last few years the fear just went away. I can remember I'd always freeze in the past, but now I am just asking myself - why is this… | /r/askTRP | 24/03/17 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Plate wont fuck me, she asks me whats wrong, I escalate again, she stops me, I ignore her for the rest of the nightNah you did ok. Freezeouts are a good strategy, though you could have tried other things first. For example: two steps forwards, one step back. Sometimes girl just needs to feel a bit more comfortable. However, I don't think that was the case here. "is it because I wont let you touch my pussy?" This was sort of a shit test, but more importantly, it was a power play. Look at the frame she is setting. You did well in not responding. Ultimatum would have been a horrible move. Best move would have b… | /r/askTRP | 18/01/17 08:36 AM |
| 1 | FR: Calling a woman’s bluff can be better than sexI can see both sides of how to handle this issue. It's really context dependent. Girls will blurt out nonsense all the time like "I have a boyfriend", "we shouldn't be doing this", and "I love you, but I'm not in love with you" It's because their minds have rotted from their exposure to these cultural memes. Their minds pattern match on things they have seen or done in the past and just blurt out this bullshit that makes no logical sense. That's why a core TRP maxim is "watch her actions, not he… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/01/17 10:13 PM |
| 5 | Be prepared to catch the glass (and why being 100% Dark Triad is counter-productive)Great post, poor title. A lot of advice on the sub is meant for people who are just starting to unplug. That means a next is the correct course of action 90% of the time. Once you have overcome your savior schema, your captain-save-a-ho dynamic, and your poor escalation technique, then you can start to calibrate and have nuanced responses. Being able to next presupposes an abundance mentality. Often men are afraid to move on because they don't have other options in their lives. You really need t… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/01/17 03:00 PM |
| 3 | Whatever you're doing in romance, you're taking it too seriouslyWomen will do this for another reason though, as an ego protection mechanism. Anything to nullify the possibility that you could reject her. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/12/16 05:10 AM |
| 0 | You can get addicted to self-improvement. Don'tYou've described only one of the pitfalls of pursuing self-improvement, an archetype called "The Obsessive" by George Leonard in his book Mastery. It's a great book, only 176 pages and it also describes the pitfalls of the hacker and the dabbler, as well as actually laying out a path that works. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/16 04:47 AM |
| 18 | Kangaroo Courts and the Jizz Guzzling Jezebel: A Story About False AccusationsIt actually goes to show their complete incompetence. The accused is always either found guilty or not guilty. There is no such thing as a finding of innocence. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/10/16 08:16 AM |
| 1 | My sister is a useless bitch. Western culture poisons women.Unfortunately I've seen the opposite as well. Dad instilled discipline, made sure daughter stayed out of modeling world so she could focus on studies. She was not spoiled, was expected to contribute, do chores, etc... Didn't matter. Once she was away from the house living near school, the friends had a much bigger influence. This girl was phenomenally fit and pretty but she could not keep a man. She eventually found a good beta but despises him; they've been together for 8 years. Boyfriend spoil… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/10/16 12:48 PM |
| 5 | Interesting results from not telling people I'm broken up with my girlfriend.This is also known as a false disqualifier. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/09/16 10:14 PM |
| 2 | Fired from job failed shit testI wouldn't get caught up in legal bs, but depending on your location you probably have a case for constructive dismissal. | /r/askTRP | 27/09/16 06:26 PM |
| 3 | GF having a go at me because I commented on a photo. Standard stuff, just here to discuss itGF messages me saying she's made uncomfortable by the fact I've done this, because said girl does pole dancing and has posted videos of it on her Facebook You should have responded with: "Really? can you send me the link?" However, she then goes "If it's no effort to to stop commenting, it's no effort to block her as well, right?" Logically, that's true. It's not true at all! You've bought into her frame. | /r/askTRP | 21/09/16 07:03 AM |
| 3 | Red Pill Toolbox: Appearance, Action, and PersuasionCialdini released a new book a few weeks ago called Pre-Suasion. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/09/16 11:11 AM |
| 2 | Many women does not have a clue how to please a man in bedGood advice. I did soft next but she was still texting me after a week of radio silence. Was seeing her 2-3 weeks apart by this stage. Guess I could have switched it up to just saying I was busy or not responding. Good insight on doing things the hard way being a synonym for sacrifice. I have a tendency to just disengage and thought changing up my strategy might lead to some insights or a different outcome. That didn't happen. I just got hamstering and I can see that with a less level-headed gir… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/09/16 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Many women does not have a clue how to please a man in bedYou've got some great advice here. I recently found myself in a similar situation. The plate stopped trying. She was very low drama but also must have had some hangups from her past. She'd be excited and horny and then I'd get LMR every single time (for all the months that we were seeing each other - 2-4 times a month). I decided to end it, but wasn't sure I had the best approach.. So follow up question, when you've decided to move on, what's the best way? I told her we should just stop seeing e… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/09/16 04:48 PM |
| 15 | It's begun boys. Political Correctness > all else.University of Chicago recently sent out a letter to all freshmen saying it doesn't support the concept of Trigger Warnings and that school is a place to encounter challenging ideas. So there is still hope. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/16 09:37 PM |
| 1 | It's begun boys. Political Correctness > all else.Think as you like but behave as others. Anyway who the hell is going to enforce this? Are all parties run by one person? The lesson to learn here is that you should always guard your reputation. Guaranteed he said this in front of a hamplanet who started shaming him with her equally fugly friends. If his SMV was high enough, it wouldn't be an issue. He should have just denied everything. California has yes means yes but I didn't know it had gotten to that in Canada. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/16 09:35 PM |
| 3 | You're actually defending Donald Trump?Law 38, but your real mistake was backing down and laughing it off. Your only way out was to double down with more A&A. "He's a dreamboat, look at that hair!" "Donald Trump is a close friend of mine, and I resent you talking about him behind his back." "Oh, you're one of THOSE people" -- Careful with this one, could backfire, will escalate the situation, but could be fun if you can get others on your side. "You wouldn't fuck trump? Come on, be honest, not even a hate fuck?" it got serious and aw… | /r/askTRP | 20/08/16 01:45 PM |
| 2 | How a surgical training differs between females and malesIt's basically impossible to fire anyone in France for any reason ever. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/08/16 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill Moment on DateGotta lead in to this. "Based on your rant, I get the feeling you might believe in equality" ... "Cool, we can split the bill." | /r/TheRedPill | 26/07/16 06:46 AM |
| 2 | TRP Real Time Exercise - Plate ManagementWeird that she would make a complaint the morning of her birthday. That doesn't give you a lot of time. I know that logic doesn't enter into her decisions, but it shows that she is self-absorbed. It's my birthday today and I thought you cared about me enough to give me at least some present, but instead you just like to show off and care only about yourself "Yep" (though I wouldn't respond this way to a text - only in person) makes me very sad, dear. That's just patronising and she definitely de… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/07/16 07:37 AM |
| 2 | Matress Girl - European Edition ReduxJews weren't blowing themselves up or murdering innocents At least not until later. Check out the 4 episode series The Promise to see exactly how the Jews fought and the tactics they used. Modern terrorism was invented by the Jews in the same way that concentration camps were invented by the British (in Africa). | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/16 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Don't trust anyone [mobile]Could have been worse but at least it's a lesson to not overreact. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/06/16 03:57 AM |
| 2 | Don't trust anyone [mobile]There only needs to be one update: contacted lawyer dropped bitch | /r/TheRedPill | 27/06/16 03:53 AM |
| 3 | If You Settle for a Deadbedroom or Duty-Sex, You're a LoserThis is happening because you took their concerns seriously and tried to engage them logically. You are not accountable to your "friends". Set that frame early. Do not treat their attempts to engage you as anything more than an opportunity to practice some humor or just walk away when you get bored of their prattling nonsense. Hell, I would even say "I grow tired of your prattling nonsense" as I walk away. Say it with a smirk so they can never tell you are being serious. I had a woman start aski… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/06/16 04:50 AM |
| 2 | Biological father insults me.You're too nice. "no one asked for your opinion cockface." | /r/askTRP | 01/06/16 08:37 PM |
| 14 | LTR has went no contact with me. How should I proceed?Just chill for 48 hours, you are getting emotional for no reason. Stop being so needy. The situation will play itself out and then you will make the right decision with all the facts in hand. Just wait it out instead of panicking. I.e. don't do anything. You've already sent her a text, no need for a follow up. | /r/askTRP | 31/05/16 08:21 PM |
| 1 | I am utterly shit with kino with everyone. How to fix?The only kino guide you need is Vincent DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder. It's a pretty long PDF (no video) but it goes very in depth. | /r/askTRP | 31/05/16 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Bluepill asian parents messing with my LTRThat's what you picked up on? You shouldnt deny her anything How's that for ridiculous? Or this: possession is not a love word You are getting trolled by a BP faggot. | /r/askTRP | 26/05/16 07:01 AM |
| 4 | "You have to make me your priority"asked that I put her as a top priority in my life. I said no, I'll try, but no Try again. make me your top priority "We'll see" "Make me a sandwich" "Show me you're worth it." "You were at number seven, but now you're sliding down to number 10" | /r/askTRP | 25/05/16 08:59 PM |
| 2 | When you want to arrange a meetup or hangout with a woman, do not ask her if she can/wants to hang out or if/when she is free to meet up. Instead, state where you will be at a specific time and place and leave it up to her to accept or reject your proposal.Agreed, the general sentiment of the post is good and so are the examples. But I've found the best pattern for arranging a meet is: Send a feeler text - What's your week looking like? Agree to a day. Specify the time and place - follow OP advice above Important - Notice the feeler doesn't convey neediness by asking if she's free. Get agreement on the day first. If you bombard her with exact details you are in a corner when she says she's busy at that time. You are giving her more opportunities t… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/05/16 07:32 AM |
| 3 | I have failed to completely swallow the red pill, fucked my life (and sanity) in progress, how do I unfuck things?I have developed feelings towards my partner (which is good) Why do you think this is good? met with furious resistance of my soulmate You have yet to swallow the pill if you still think this way. Read The Rational Male at least, this is covered in chapter 1. I can’t bring myself to perform some heroic act of breaking the chains. That's pretty melodramatic. Why don't you start small? | /r/askTRP | 23/05/16 09:56 PM |
| 44 | "Am I a misogynistic jackass?""We shared literally a sentence or two each about our jobs and that was it, I don't get how that is me being misogynistic not saying "NSF". If it bothered you why didn't you say something then?" This was where he entered her frame. The woman was texting nonsense, there is no reason to respond. Who cares if she thinks his behavior is unacceptable? Next. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/05/16 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Might Be in Trouble...So here's my problem... She is best friends with the girl I'm talking to right now No, that's your problem. To fix your situation, forget about both girls, read the sidebar, and lift. Also: her boyfriend uses Reddit and she knows all about it from him so I couldn't really say I hadn't because I act like the people on here lol No you don't. Stop being so pedantic. Just say "what's that?" and proceed as you want. | /r/askTRP | 21/05/16 11:23 AM |
| 1 | Fuck Up at Job!I see where you are coming from because I've had people try to order me around and I feel the same way, but if you work on your frame and change your response you will be better for it. I'd rather watch the guy die out of thirstiness than obeying his orders like a servant. This is very poor frame control. You've accepted and tried to fight his master/servant frame. Reframe instead: he's a clown. Why would you get coffee for a clown? It's silly. I calmly told him he doesn't get to talk to me that… | /r/askTRP | 18/05/16 11:45 PM |
| 3 | Yes AWALT, but you still need to be able to recognize a high quality woman from a low quality one.Don't have a copy of the book in front of me so maybe I am getting it mixed up, but basically tit-for-tat strategy from prisoner's dilemma. Don't be a sucker. If the person is not reciprocating, then stop trying to be nice/compliant. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/05/16 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Fuck Up at Job!When you said he was telling you to do chores, what do you mean? Did you think the task was beneath you? Was it outside your job description? Was it just make work for the sake of exerting authority over you? Keep in mind it's a startup so everyone has to be flexible. You are being vague about the chores as well as about how you "gave it back to him" so I will just assume you got angry and have problems with emotional self-control. Mellow out, and try meditation. You should be vetting for this k… | /r/askTRP | 18/05/16 06:29 PM |
| 4 | Yes AWALT, but you still need to be able to recognize a high quality woman from a low quality one.I'm a huge proponent of avoiding covert contracts but I don't think that's at play here. I think the more applicable book in this case is Cialdini's Influence. This is a clear case of reciprocation. It's his sister, OP's not being a nice guy so that he can sleep with her. Do you really think OP has some hidden agenda and the girl is seeing through it? His sister is a selfish cunt. That said, there's no point getting butthurt over her lack of reciprocation, simply adjust your behavior in the futu… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/05/16 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Ex became a feminist - leads me to a question.100% Hard Next is the correct answer. This isn't someone he ever needs to interact with ever again since he stated she lives in another city. | /r/askTRP | 16/05/16 10:55 PM |
| 2 | What should I tell her?You're not in a position to make any sort of ultimatum. If you haven't at least kissed her by now you are her orbiter. Just stop wasting your time with her and move on. | /r/askTRP | 15/05/16 12:03 AM |
| 2 | What should I tell her?I wanted to go for a run with her, she said she prefers to run alone. Don't know if a running "date" will lead anywhere. Have you run with her before or is there evidence that she's lying? Just take her at her word, for now. In the evening I proposed her little house party nearby, she refused saying she's tired after running Personally, I would have waited a few days before inviting her to anything else. Asking her for something, getting refused, and coming back with a counteroffer is a DLV. You… | /r/askTRP | 14/05/16 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Sudden change in LTR's behaviourCould be cyclical (menstrual cycle) or could have to do with any perceived change in behavior. Has she noticed you acting differently? Did you join the gym; has she seen you having positive interactions with other girls? Are you killing it at work? If not any of the above it's probably a reaction to something her friends have said or done. Maybe a few of them got married recently? There's really not enough information to tell at this point. | /r/askTRP | 06/05/16 10:02 PM |
| 1 | LTR goes out last night, casually mentions a guy added her on IG and DM'd her his number this morningPeople are giving you (good!) advice about your particular situation but there is a huge frame issue here underlying your post. Why are you getting bent out of shape about double standards? We know they exist, pointing them out does not win you any arguments. I very calmly told her this was hypocritical. Doesn't matter how calm you are. You are engaging her on a logical level which means you have already lost lost LOST. Is it alright if I ask some basic questions No. | /r/askTRP | 06/05/16 09:57 PM |
| 1 | What the fuck am I doing wrong.. I've grown so much and still don't get laidThere is some desperation coming from your post, but you are also lacking in detail. How are you getting shut down? Are you trying for ONS every time? You are getting numbers so what is the problem with getting together for a drink? Logistics or flaking? Persistence will get you far, but not from a place of neediness. If a girl withdraws, you need to withdraw MORE. But keep her on a hook, don't get butthurt, just try again. You need to give us details about where you are failing if you want any … | /r/askTRP | 06/05/16 09:51 PM |
| 36 | FR: My Plate (22f) uses emotions to get me (41m) to give her "more" Bonus features: Beta Butthurt running rampant.Same as in business. You can invest vertically in a business unit (or in a particular girl) or you can scale horizontally by building new businesses (or seeing other girls). | /r/TheRedPill | 06/05/16 09:40 PM |
| 3 | [FR] The Ultimate Response to a LJBF rejectionYour analysis of PowerTalk is spot on, but instead of calling this the ultimate response, I would say it is overkill. You got attacked by a mouse and brought out your elephant gun. Seems to me like wasted effort. Demonstrate social grace instead of making a girl sad to feed your ego. You could have plated her or used her as a pivot and instead you decided to exercise power over her without any benefit. | /r/TheRedPill | 05/05/16 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Advice needed: My RP game experiment may have ruined a marraigeExcellent writeup. Your concerns should be more practical. How will this affect your career if the white knight outs you and you are slapped with Conduct Unbecoming - not clear if you are enlisted or not. As for breaking up the marriage, when her attempted branch swing fails, hubby will take her back 90% of the time. Let her manage the AFC. You should be even more flirty with other women when out with friends and cultivate the idea that this is just the way you are instead of something going on … | /r/askTRP | 03/05/16 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Any red pilled rom coms?No. From Rollo's blog: Every romantic comedy, every ‘love story’ in the past 50 years, all revolve around men’s inability to fill the hole in their heart that only a special woman can. Literally, everything else in the world is just a cheap, superficial substitute for the inexplicable magical element a woman completes a man with. That said, if you don't mind dropping the comedy, check out Mud. | /r/askTRP | 28/04/16 03:06 PM |
| 1 | How to deal with girl acting like she was too drunk to remember 1hour+ of sex?Either play along and pretend you don't remember anything either, or tell her a completely fabricated adventure that doesn't involve sex. She may actually have decided to pretend that nothing happened between you two and when enough time goes by (a few days to weeks), she will have completely convinced herself that is the case. Don't fight it, you will just be seen as creepy. | /r/askTRP | 24/04/16 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Might get fired for low performanceThese days most companies do not give references. They will only confirm your dates of employment. | /r/askTRP | 21/04/16 02:52 PM |
| 1 | what do you do when LTR starts crying?I was going to say... What do you do when LTR starts crying? Keep fucking her. | /r/askTRP | 19/04/16 07:45 AM |
| 3 | How To Make Books Your BitchI think if you have amazon prime they give you massive discounts on getting the audible version of books you already own. It will be like a $3 add-on instead of the full $20-$30 price. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/16 08:15 PM |
| 2 | What would you do if you found your girlfriend's pros/cons list about you and...Start looking for another girl (if I wanted another gf), downgrade her to plate - without telling her. Basically any sort of exclusivity is off the table. | /r/askTRP | 14/04/16 10:10 PM |
| 0 | Girls expecting you to pay their waywhoosh on all the replies. | /r/askTRP | 13/04/16 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Help me find LaidNYC posts.Shame, it looked slightly different size. There weren't that many posts, you can probably find the remaining ones here: http://archive.is/laidnyc.wordpress.com | /r/askTRP | 11/04/16 07:39 AM |
| 2 | Plate has caught the feels for me. Ive stayed silent. Next move?You are projecting your blue pill expectations because she seems to match her side of the "deal" that you still have in your head. She's not yours, it's just your turn. She could be an angel or she could be blowing every Tom Dick and Harry in the neighborhood before coming over to your place to be a good girl. You just don't know. There is no reason to next her. You do not try to have her enter your plate spinning frame. She is your plate. You are not exclusive despite the fact that you were not… | /r/askTRP | 10/04/16 11:43 PM |
| 3 | "I was sure I was flirt-texting with The One. Until he saw me on Instagram."I ran across this as well. For me the best part was when she thought she was flirting over text with the guy who was there in person, but as soon as she realized that was not the case she started obssessing over the stranger instead of the man who was right next to her. He became an afterthought and was not mentioned again. Don't be that guy. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/04/16 12:58 PM |
| 2 | Help me find LaidNYC posts.This was posted to TRP a while back: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2o27pg/everyone_should_download_and_read_all_of_laidnycs/ Alternate source, hopefully clean. | /r/askTRP | 10/04/16 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Nuclear shit-test, looking for drama/attention, or something else?I was trying to take charge and get solve the problem right away The reason it was a nuclear shit test is because it happened during sex. Girls know (instinctively) this is when your head is not on straight and you will supplicate the most so that you can continue banging her. If you buy into her drama then you are training her to bring up future problems during sex when you are most receptive. Lines are less important than frame. Sometimes it's better to just ride out the storm. Alternatively d… | /r/askTRP | 08/04/16 11:42 PM |
| 0 | Are you mad at me?This will always be answered with "I didn't do anything!" Mhmm... <nodding your head> Alternatively: "What didn't you do?" | /r/askTRP | 08/04/16 06:40 PM |
| 5 | Nuclear shit-test, looking for drama/attention, or something else?we pick up where we left off and start having sex. She seems unengaged/distracted so I say "tell me what's wrong". Nuclear shit test, which you failed. Girls will be passive-aggressive then blame you for their problems when you probe for details. Stay positive; change her mood, not her mind. I tell her that “it’s no secret I’m falling for you” Have you actually read the sidebar? This is a vomit-inducing bluepill cliche. You are making her feel anxious and this sort of response will naturally lea… | /r/askTRP | 08/04/16 06:22 PM |
| 1 | My girl gave me sex coupons as a gift, what do I do with them?Something similar happened to a friend of mine.. He got 5 "sex whenever you want" coupons. What you have to keep in mind is that the girl is expecting you to save them for a rainy day, artificially raising the value of sex in your mind. So my friend used all five coupons in the next two days and then plated her, making it clear they weren't exclusive. She was chasing him from then on. Keep in mind the natural corollary of Briffault's law.. The coupons will mean nothing if she is actually upset w… | /r/askTRP | 02/04/16 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Women in a workplaces often act touchy-feely, light flirting with all the male employees. That's beneficial for them (being likeable, betas doing work for them etc.) Now, what is the most beneficial type of behaviour towards female employees as a male?Holding frame. You will get shit tested more initially, but if you make it through to the other side, the women will start deferring to your judgement. They will start doing favors for you, taking your side in arguments, and following your lead. | /r/askTRP | 01/04/16 07:18 AM |
| 3 | Should I Hide money from plates?Show, don't tell. Regardless of whether you choose to display your wealth, putting up a money figure will only give you the negatives (attracting gold diggers). Leverage that income to display your wealth indirectly - a cool car, watch, pad, holiday etc... This way, you always have plausible deniability, and it comes across more naturally. The club owner is leveraging his wealth for status which is the great next level play. The downsides of displaying wealth directly are: Girl's pussy will dry … | /r/askTRP | 28/03/16 02:31 AM |
| 1 | I'm forced to hang out with an immature guy, how can I put him in his place?try to show him TRP No. This is: A work colleague Who does not give a fuck and possibly considers the OP an enemy based on OP's attempts to isolate and ridicule him What could go wrong? | /r/askTRP | 27/03/16 12:07 PM |
| 15 | Ghomeshi Trial - "The case fell apart because all three women grossly failed to tell the truth."Today, of all days, please be quiet. It's all about me! Look at me! I'm a (potential) victim! Pay attention, this way! Stop talking about the burden of proof. Stop talking about legal reasonable doubt. Stop interrupting women to give your assessment of the legal system or to explain to them the many reasons why this verdict was reached. She's actually right. There's no reason to discuss this. Think as you like but behave as others. But, you don't need to listen to her either. And if you need to … | /r/TheRedPill | 26/03/16 08:14 PM |
| 2 | It's all set and done.The loud music is distracting More opportunity for kino you are being covertly AMOG'ed by the band Take her to see a chick band, especially one that sings about lust, giving in to your desires, etc... They do exist, and they are very popular. I've had a recent string of successes with taking chicks to concerts. The key is to meet up for drinks ahead of time, arrive late, and leave early. No reason to be there for over an hour. Skip the supporting acts. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/03/16 08:40 AM |
| 33 | my girlfriend of one year tells me during sex that she thinks she's too tall for me.There's so many things I could add here No, you've already said too much. None of the background matters at all to your current situation. Only the last paragraph has any relevance at all. She is no longer sexually attracted to you. This should be obvious. Forget cheating, she has already checked out of the relationship. It is done and dusted. Your frame is weak: I'm becoming suspicious of every guy she speaks of We sleep together every night we never fuck I pryed, "we used to always have sex." … | /r/askTRP | 19/03/16 11:38 PM |
| 3 | Get that minor surgery/procedure over withThe actual FDA approval requirement was that 80% of cases must show no permanent degredation. I.e. something unfixable by further treatment. The scraping method is called PRK and I had that done. No regrets even though it's been about 8 years and I now need a correction. Vision just deteriorated over the years. I can still function without glasses/contacts, but long distance is a bit blurry. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/03/16 09:45 PM |
| 1 | How do you escalate from platonic to sexual?You set the sexual frame from the beginning. You do not try to become friends with the girl and then try to make it sexual. | /r/askTRP | 13/03/16 01:38 PM |
| 16 | The entire system sickens me, I'm ready to opt out.The skittles man refers to an old Roissy post (Chateau Heartiste). Minimal effort for maximal results. Advice for the OP: get out of the bar scene, put less effort into each individual approach, but do more of them. Filter girls aggressively; you haven't mastered outcome independence. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/03/16 01:35 PM |
| 2 | When I'm being asked, in a small talk conversation "which university do you attend", I don't want to answer directly (it's not very well known/prestige). How can I answer indirectly?If you are talking with a potential employer just straight up say what it is, you don't want to be evasive or caught in a lie. Just say what it is, don't qualify yourself - like you did in your second paragraph. If you are in a social situation, you're under no obligation to answer truthfuly or at all. It sounds though like you are networking and that is the first question people are asking you. Answer truthfuly and tell them your expected graduation date then change the subject to what kind of … | /r/askTRP | 12/03/16 07:03 PM |
| 5 | My first chance to apply RP in the workplace was a great successIt's really lack of abundance mentality. Without taking risks opportunities will slip by. If the workplace turns to shit, next your employer. Same principles. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/03/16 09:29 AM |
| 13 | My first chance to apply RP in the workplace was a great successI had a similar thing happen to me. I've seen a girl at work just eat men alive. She would be telling them to their face how stupid they are witih the manager looking on nodding his head. She tried her attitude with me and I just didn't take any of it. I teased her playfully and if she got out of hand I just walked away (I wasn't working directly with her). Things escalated until she accused me of racist remarks - in front of a bunch of people who all basically said "WTF?" I called her out on it… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/03/16 09:24 AM |
| 2 | Why "choreplay" won't result in sexRollo has additional articles specifically about Choreplay. One of the lessons I took away is that a woman will get really frustrated if you assign her simple tasks that are important. She does not want the responsibility of doing important stuff even if there is less labour involved. e.g. making a decision, meeting a deadline, filling in and dropping off important documents. As the man, it's even more important to take responsibility for long-term outlook, organizing and planning. Ask yourself,… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/03/16 08:09 PM |
| 1 | The Female Hustle: Understanding Gold-Diggers, Prostitutes, and Female Sexual StrategiesWhat do you think the dangers are of marketing yourself at the wrong quadrant? I find it pretty intuitive to tell between a girl who is long-term vs short-term, but it's much harder to tell honest hustler vs dishonest hustler since this axis is more of a spectrum. I can spin a good story about my life - lots of travel, living internationally in cool cities and moving whenever I want. Working in a high-paying industry. I think if you sell yourself as having an amazing life, women may adjust their… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/03/16 11:44 AM |
| 1 | The "little girl" toneHmm, maybe confirmation bias, but yes I have seen this and later found out the girl had been molested. | /r/askTRP | 01/03/16 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Brother-In-Law Preparing To Black-Knight His Radical Feminist BossIf he brings the evidence first there is less chance of blowback against him. How would that look? | /r/TheRedPill | 01/03/16 08:22 AM |
| 2 | Frame is defensive, game is offensive. They are yin and yang, opposites per say. Frame by itself will not get you laid.I'm paraphrasing something I read here a few weeks back: Defence telegraphs values. Offence telegraphs intent. If you are only concentrating on one, what are you giving away? | /r/TheRedPill | 29/02/16 12:11 AM |
| 2 | Enough About Women. Let's talks money... the TRP way. If you have alternative revenue streams, are in an unconventional occupation, or live an unconventional life style... SHARE IT! [Discussion]Not OP, but I am in the same industry with a bit more experience. With that skill set, I'd put the OP at 60k.. He sounds young and has likely been at it for less than 3 years. Your numbers are not that far off though. London real estate is still crazy. Keep in mind above 100k or so you start getting into the 50% tax bracket. So yeah, slash your numbers in half. No one with a family lives in London long in this industry. It just doesn't make sense. You can get double or triple the space while onl… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/02/16 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Beating Briffault's Law and Covert Contracts by engaging the SMP on a CASH basisGreat post and very timely for me. Covert contracts can apply any time where you have expectations about outcome, which is why outcome independence (and abundance mentality) is so important. I've had two incidents this week where I had an idea of what would happen with a girl based on my own behavior. With the first one, I was thinking "This girl is into me, if I can get her back to my place we will have sex." Nope, didn't happen. As someone else advised me: too much pull, not enough push. I sho… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/02/16 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Mission Report Monday: Post your FRs here!I applied this during the next meeting and definitely got better reactions. Still looks like a weak point for me. Need to break off and make her chase me. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/02/16 06:39 PM |
| 5 | [FR] How to tell if she wants attention or if she wants the D: the story of my neighborIf both poles, both propositions, are balanced, you create a frame that she now is in. This is known as a "double bind" You give conflicting messages so that either way you win. Women do this all the time. The only way to win is to reframe. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/02/16 09:46 PM |
| 2 | Tune-up Tuesday: What is your #1 issue you need help with the most?Had a similar experience coming off a long sabbatical. 200 applications filed, not even an interview - same time of year as you. Then in January everything started rolling in, 5 interviews in two weeks and 2 simultaneous offers that I was able to play off for an extra 15% salary increase. Recruiters are necessary in some industries. But if you can get in through a personal connection you can leverage the fact that you found the job yourself even if you have to go through an agency. Definitely tr… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/02/16 08:05 PM |
| 3 | Mission Report Monday: Post your FRs here!Went to a cocktail bar followed by a concert with a girl I met a few days earlier. Arrived ten minutes earlier, made sure logistics were in my favor: sitting side by side instead of across by picking a corner seat and moving all the other chairs away. Having one menu for the table was actually the clincher (studying it together) and also doing lots of kino from the start. Highlight: It was time to leave for the concert. Finish your drink yes boss I'm not your boss. I don't pay you. You can call … | /r/TheRedPill | 22/02/16 11:55 PM |
| 3 | How many chances do ya give girls now to hang out after TRP?Got this last week: "I'll text you Sunday if I'm not too tired." Didn't respond, soft next, and then she was back to flirting again next time I ran into her. Here's what I've been doing recently: "How's your week looking?" Her response gives you a lot more information because it's an open question. Then I pick a day, and get agreement that we will meet, BEFORE discussing other logistics or activities. Basically, reduce her ability to say no. Your immediate response with an alternate is lowering … | /r/askTRP | 21/02/16 07:53 PM |
| 3 | Girl lying about meTake this seriously, we recently had a guy come here in a similar situation. He ended up dropping out of his program. Get a lawyer asap. | /r/askTRP | 20/02/16 10:26 PM |
| 1 | My guide on how to mentally recover from a sexless youth/lack of sex in your school days and be happy in life.Lifting will take you far. I know a guy who's shorter than you and he kills it, but it took years of effort. He's got < 8% BF. I can tell from some things you've written that you haven't fully swallowed the pill yet. Why a married woman was alone at a Salsa club dressed like she was I have no idea AWALT. when I know a girl is into me, she's mine That was the point of my earlier post. You gotta pull the trigger even in the absence of a clear signal. Pickup is an area where irrational and excessiv… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/02/16 10:58 AM |
| 3 | My guide on how to mentally recover from a sexless youth/lack of sex in your school days and be happy in life.I thought the big picture was helpful if a bit too wordy, the time could have been spent to make the post shorter. There's no magic to getting sex. Meet more women, attract them, escalate, and close. Find where you are lacking in those four steps and take action. If you find you are only meeting one or two women per month then you need to get out more. Tinder, meetups, clubs, events, sports, cold approaches, whatever works in your area. Attraction just means stop being a doormat. Don't agree to … | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/16 11:29 PM |
| 12 | My guide on how to mentally recover from a sexless youth/lack of sex in your school days and be happy in life.Post was long but the three main points were solid. Get you count up. That may mean lowering your standards initially. Don't go dumpster diving obviously as it will fuck with your head. You just have to force yourself to pull the trigger instead of pussying out. Build polarity so that you never fall into the friend zone. Friendships with girls as a backup plan is no plan at all. Don't spend money on women. You should already be following this if you read the sidebar but OP was making the point t… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/16 09:38 AM |
| 2 | What's the best response for when a subordinate crew member whom is older asks, "How old are you?"I agree with the first part, but it's doubly important to keep frame. That means there's no reason to explain yourself. You are in that position, and there's no reason to justify it to a subordinate. You do that kind of thing at an interview before you have the job. OP is right, treat it as a shit test. A&A etc... "I'm out of my nappies now, let me know if you need some tips" Obviously judge the tone of the challenge and use appropriately. You are not trying to outclever these guys, you want the… | /r/askTRP | 14/02/16 11:44 PM |
| 3 | GF is arrested for domestic abuse. BF posts her mugshot on FB. Hamstering ensues.Nah, next level troll is to respond to "she's a good person" with: "Disagree. She is a violent criminal. Source: " and then repost the exact same mugshot a second time. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/02/16 07:01 PM |
| 5 | Fuck Bitcoin: If you're actually serious about asset protection, look into foreign asset trusts.What you wrote is all true.. Just to put some numbers on it, I had a consultation with a boutique firm in the Cayman Islands just to get a feel for how they run the scheme in OP's description. The way they work is they set up a trust taking into account any countries whose laws you may be subjected to. This can happen because of citizenship, or residency, or through marriage or some other legal tie. You pay a setup fee (about $40k, other tax havens probably charge less) and then you pay a mainte… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/16 11:49 AM |
| 2 | Made girl pay for first date drinks... calls me an asshole. Becomes huge topic of discussion.Explaining yourself was a mistake. Paying sets a bad precedent and puts you in beta-bucks category. She would have been even less likely to sleep with you; it's not a sexual lubricant like some of these guys seem to believe. They are the same guys who are buying drinks for women as their pickup line. You made her feel bad.. There are better ways to handle this. I went out with a girl twice in the span of a week.. The first time she went and bought a bottle of wine for us at the bar without any u… | /r/askTRP | 29/01/16 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Thought Experiment: Imagine if the bottom 25% of The Male Population Was Removed from the Sexual Marketplace.It takes generations to rebuild, although in a realistic scenario the deficit would quickly be made up by immigration. But in a closed system, the net effect in humans is going to be like 51:49 in favor of the current minority, when it comes to birth by gender. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/01/16 03:51 PM |
| 1 | President of a country in my region considers introducing "a bachelor tax"You missed things like FATCA (US) and CRS (EU version of FATCA) where all governments and banks share information about your accounts. The US is the only country that taxes by citizenship, but maybe other governments will soon realize they are missing out. My strategy is to collect passports. Just became eligible for my third. That way I'm not tied to any one country, diversifying my risk. Taxation by citizenship would be a worst case scenario for me. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/01/16 09:09 AM |
| 1 | Innocent men now can be ordered to inform police of sex they have 24 hours before it happens or face 5 years in jail (UK)This was my thought as well. Undoubtedly violates either some right to association, or human rights clause. A good lawyer could also argue that it infringes on the privacy of his sexual partners. Since EU legislation has strong privacy protection, framing the issue in terms of how women are harmed would be most likely to succeed. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/01/16 07:55 AM |
| 1 | Should I hide my good memory for higher SMV?Yes you should hide this advantage. Displaying it openly hurts your SMV as you've learned, since people think you are over-invested. After all, the only way you could remember everything about them is if you thought they were the most important person in the world -- most people only form detailed long-term memories during periods of strong emotion. It's a conversational skill much like talking about red pill thruths without using red pill terms (only apropriate in limited circumstances), or mis… | /r/askTRP | 23/01/16 10:22 AM |
| 1 | LTR Found out I reopened my old facebook account.Block her on facebook. | /r/askTRP | 21/01/16 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Girlfriend wanted a break. I initiated no contact. She came back crying. But WTF do I do now?Read this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3pltm2/humansockpuppets_guide_to_managing_your_bitches/ She is now level 1 due to her intentional shitty behavior. So when she came back and said "Okay we can still date" you should have put her in her place. You completely lost frame. Your response could have been: Nah Maybe. How are you going to make it up to me? BTW, these are just hoops for her to jump through, this girl is not gf material. Remember she is level 1 forever. | /r/askTRP | 21/01/16 02:29 PM |
| 6 | "The Red Piller's Guide to Online Dating:" Word FodderThis is great.. I'll just add that word fodder can serve a purpose in real life but it should be used sparingly and with purpose. That purpose should never be to de-polarize. Places where you may want to use it: During your opener. Say "hey", then pause so that she has time to process. Otherwise the answer to your opener will be "What?" 95% of the time. To change the subject after someone else says or does something awkward. "So...." With the correct timing you will get a laugh and lead the conv… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/16 07:21 AM |
| 14 | "If you made more money, we would have more sex"Sunk cost fallacy (Google it). You are invested in the relationship and she is already making you jump through hoops. Also, you are opening up to her about your insecurities which will turn her pussy into the Sahara. You are getting as much sex as you will EVER get from her. Expect it to drop to once a month and then once every six months. Your first paragraph is a red flag. She is a lawyer - that is 2. She is telling you she needs you to make more money, that's three. Do you know why she needs … | /r/TheRedPill | 07/01/16 01:22 PM |
| 1 | FR: Lost composure in the presence of a PlaymateThere's no link in the article so Google wouldn't be able to backtrack the search to its origin. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/12/15 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Dating in 2016It was phrased poorly but advice stands. You should not move in together because that removes the mystery of how awesome she imagines you to be and replaces it with mundane shit that kills the fantasy. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/12/15 04:46 PM |
| 10 | happy Xmass: my present 4u: FR - not FIELD but FAMILY report: my sister and.. The Wall (R)Your mom and grandma might be jumping for joy, but remember that if this boy doesn't have your sister's respect (never mind genuine desire) then her feelings will eventually turn toward disgust and resentment. That will mean divorce down the line which is bad for everyone. I saw this play out from the inside last year. Beta dates girl, spoils her with gifts, shows no backbone. She is disgusted by him (in her own words) but keeps it quiet because of BB benefits. Better to take this guy under your… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Tried to handle a shit test, how could I have done better?Since this is over text, you should have dropped the conversation and just ignored for a day or two. She would either come back from another angle, or apologize. From your side, the best move would have been to pretend you never got her text. Maybe reinitiate later if you didn't hear back after a few days. You engaged on her terms when the best move was not to play at all. Remember that texting is for logistics. Also, keep your answers shorter. You had the right idea at the end but there's a dif… | /r/askTRP | 24/12/15 04:58 AM |
| 0 | How to respond to "Did you fuck so and so?" when you're trying to handle multiple plates"Wouldn't tell you if I did." This gives you plausible deniability but also subcommunicates that you are discreet. It's none of her business anyway and that's why this is the best answer. Hold frame. | /r/askTRP | 19/12/15 03:30 PM |
| 2 | If your dick's not in her mouth, it doesn't matter what comes out of her mouth. Also, don't be that guy offering to send her an Uber at 3amI was in a similar situation, met one of my exes in NYC about a year after the breakup. She kept trying to get me involved in her bullshit. I spent two days hanging out with her (not the whole day but we were sharing a hotel room). On the second day she drops this lovely turd in my lap: "mrust I've decided I'm not going to sleep with you." Well, I actually turned it around and fucked her. But the sex was mediocre, not nearly as good as before. Dropped her from my life since, no contact. Before t… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/12/15 12:25 PM |
| 1 | shit test: why you dont have a car?I got rid of it. It was one of those talking cars. It kept asking stupid questions. | /r/askTRP | 07/12/15 11:05 PM |
| 8 | How do the wealthy become wealthy?Capital, not labour | /r/askTRP | 07/12/15 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Basic Guide to Argumentation and Intellectual GrowthYou've got some great relevant examples and your main point also stands. People suck at logic because they've practiced lazy thinking all their lives. Keep writing about this, and I'd even be interested in hearing some of the debate-specific stuff. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/15 12:37 PM |
| 9 | "The Shit Test Buster Game: Round 1"Question 1: ”Are you a player?” Not yet, but maybe if things doesn't work out between us. Question 2: ”Yeah, I bet you say that to all the girls..” Only the pretty ones. Question 3: ”What’s the matter? You look so sad.” I just solved world peace... Then I realized there's only one of me. Question 4: How many girls have you slept with?” You mean this week? / All of them. Question 5: ”Are you seeing anyone else?” Lean close in and whisper What, you mean... like... shift eyes back and forth ghosts?… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/15 12:52 AM |
| 1 | CorporateLand: How to Handle Salary Negotiations.I work at a tier 1 investment bank. Advice still applies. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/12/15 02:51 PM |
| 2 | CorporateLand: How to Handle Salary Negotiations.Nah I think it's great advice. Any book on negotiation will tell you that it's in your interest to make them cough up the first number. If they ask you outright, tell them you don't disclose that information. If they actallly require proof and payslips tell them that can be deferred until after the negotiations are complete. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/12/15 08:53 AM |
| 4 | My vegetarian girlfriend is trying to force me to cut out meatsacrifice a goat in the backyard and ask the gods for advice | /r/askTRP | 02/12/15 12:58 AM |
| 1 | CorporateLand: How to Handle Salary Negotiations.A bit more in the same vein, these large corporations will have salary bands that lay out the exact range of pay applicable to your given rating. Note that I did not say position. You can have the same position - same job, same responsibilities, but if you can move up a level there is an automatic increase in pay. Conversely if you don't move up a level, there is a cap. The same applies to contractors, though they will call these rate bands instead of salary bands. If your hiring manager is smar… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/12/15 12:36 AM |
| 1 | How can one read a woman's mind or get an idea of what they want?What do women want? Who cares? | /r/askTRP | 26/11/15 08:50 AM |
| 2 | Spinning Plates and Tight FrameThe consequence of the slap was that there is no possibility of a relationship. At that stage there is nothing to gain from telling her that. It's just a rule I have and I don't need to tell women not to be abusive. It's a full red flag with blinkers. She is not relationship material. Did it hurt? No. It's just a sign of bad character. It wasn't banter at that point and my reading was that it could have only escalated in a bad direction. Similarily, if a woman threatens to call the cops on you, … | /r/TheRedPill | 23/11/15 10:36 PM |
| 2 | Spinning Plates and Tight FrameYes, this fits the template exactly. This girl was also negotiating in the bedroom. "no I don't want to do that now" (oral) and "I have a condom but you have to finger me first" The whole experience put me completely off and reminded me of one of my exes. Been through that (same as you), no thanks. Best part of TRP is that it helps me understand exactly what is going on, predict her behavior and not fall into the same trap a second time. I'm going to let this one spin but not going out of my way… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/11/15 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Spinning Plates and Tight FrameYeah I think that sums it up.. Can't upvote you enough. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/11/15 09:06 AM |
| 3 | Spinning Plates and Tight FrameYour intro made me think of something that happened to me this weekend. I was in bed with a girl and I spanked her once, she moaned hard so I gave her another one even harder but no windup, a hard slap on the ass. She said she didn't like it but then she paused and slapped me in the face lightly. She immediately said "sorry, but I had to do it." That forever cemented her as just a plate (if that), though of course I didn't make any indication. Your post solidified what the underlying dynamic was… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/11/15 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Tinder's new update confirms RP truths in a big way.Happn is already starting to displace Tinder in NYC. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/11/15 01:03 PM |
| 2 | Be polite, not nice. (a how and why)I think personally your politeness fits in with my style and your reminder that we should be assertive (don't be afraid to say no) even while maintaining politeness is also gold. You can easily fall into the trap of being agreeable by default and people will take advantage of you. However, I think there are times when it's better to NOT be polite. The reason is that people also conflate impoliteness with power. There was a social experiment carried out where a man was ordering at a restaurant, i… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/10/15 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Encountered a shit test ive never seen beforeIf you try to show her that she's crossed a line Don't try, just do. If you are worried about coming off as butthurt and walking on eggshells then who is losing frame? if you're acting serious all night, how is she supposed to have fun Maybe I'm not there for her amusement, but my own, and she is just along for the ride. build her comfort towards you? Comfort doesn't lead to sex. Women's words aren't always incongruent with their actions. Hardly ever :) That "you don't take me seriously" shit te… | /r/askTRP | 22/10/15 08:13 PM |
| 9 | The Men of Reddit(And America) are terrified to admit women have ruined their favorite activities.The Edge of Tomorrow had no romance and that's what made it great instead of just good. It goes to show that absence of romance is something I actively look for in books and movies. Not because I wouldn't like it but because it's just never done realistically. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/10/15 08:29 AM |
| 3 | The Men of Reddit(And America) are terrified to admit women have ruined their favorite activities.With their $50000 budget? It was better than Interstellar. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/10/15 08:25 AM |
| 2 | Encountered a shit test ive never seen beforeIf you decide on this approach, the key is to not take her seriously at all. Her words wash off of you and she couldn't have possibly been serious. I would go in the opposite direction, show her that she's crossed a line of respect. The problem with your appeasement policy is that you will continue to get the same shit test until it blows up with the "you don't take me seriously" shit test. As long as you keep a dominant frame and your actions are congruent -- don't pull this tickle shit if you … | /r/askTRP | 22/10/15 07:57 AM |
| 4 | Encountered a shit test ive never seen beforeThere's no need to next yet, but this kind of attitude absolutely means she can't be more than a plate ever. The only thing you had to do was a takeaway. Just put on your serious face and step away (the proverbial backturn, etc...). Stop talking and wait for the elevator in silence. She will either apologize - great she can be a plate next time - or she will make fun of you for being upset which is when you next her. Don't argue, don't plead, just keep your serious face on and soft next. This wa… | /r/askTRP | 22/10/15 07:51 AM |
| 13 | That awkward moment when the Left must choose between Richard Dawkins and "X is a social construct"You should pick up some Sam Harris then. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/10/15 04:11 AM |
| 2 | How to handle aggro from guysI'm not about to fight you over something this stupid. 100% Guaranteed response: Are you calling me stupid? <escalates> | /r/askTRP | 27/09/15 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Why Businesses and the Government Pander to WomenYou covered how these mechanisms work together, but I think you missed out on how they form a self-reinforcing feedback loop - a positive spiral. Another way to look at it: 1) Women have the most purchasing power Men will be the outliers (those with the most money and those with the least). As a billionaire, there is a limit to how much you can consume. Therefore the middle class consumes the most in the aggregate. With their entry into the workforce the average woman makes 77% of what the avera… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/08/15 09:22 PM |
| 2 | If a girls' parents you like or are dating seem to really like you, is it a sign of beta bucks/provider?If this were absent, an overt positive reaction from the parents would still be an indicator that the girl has made poor choices in the past. | /r/askTRP | 30/07/15 09:32 PM |
| 4 | Ex-gf (of 2 weeks) coming over tonight. Says only can stay a little while. How should I handle thisSpot on advice, just missing the bit where OP doesn't take her back even if she tries to make it up to him. Not because she didn't trust OP. Not because she let her friends dictate her actions. Because OP fucked up early on and set a frame where it was unacceptable for him to go to a strip club. | /r/askTRP | 30/07/15 09:29 PM |
| 2 | Github introduces "Code of Conduct" that "promotes equality", programmers reactWe hired a girl who didn't know how to use a filing cabinet. She literally could not get her head around the idea that you put the paper inside a folder so that it's indexed. Even after it was explained to her. She also had a habit of booking people's business flights on different days than what they requested (by a day or two) because the "flights were cheaper" She lasted two years. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/07/15 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Husband gets caught cheating, 10 years later is on the verge of being obese and is miserable (FR)Yes, fine stay for the kids, but in that case you need to hold frame to make it work. Set expectations and boundaries for the relationship. The woman was not interested in making it work, she was only interested in destroying him, and he let her. Instead of holding frame, he made himself miserable. The wife is not happy, and the kid is ungrateful. We're here to discuss sexual strategy. The cheating happened, we don't know why. He did everything wrong in trying to recover from it. The top post sa… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/07/15 10:17 PM |
| 0 | Husband gets caught cheating, 10 years later is on the verge of being obese and is miserable (FR)Is this really the lesson you've taken away from this, and want to leave TRP with? Yes. That and Hold Frame. It's shitty that he got caught cheating but he never should have caved to her demands and now nobody is happy. He could have either shown her that the situation is what it is and she has to deal with it, or, he could have sucked it up and divorced, then started the road to recovery. Caving in is the worst thing you can do as a man. Remember that five minutes of alpha is worth ten years of… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/07/15 04:34 PM |
| 22 | WWYD confirms what we already know: society gives 0 shits about men.Wrong, it's up to you as the man to set expectations. A woman will do whatever she thinks she can get away with. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/07/15 08:33 AM |
| 2 | [FR] Faced disrespect and held as much frame as possibleYou got a solid analysis from /u/redpillshadow I'll just add an overview/summary: You did not hold frame. You fell into her frame, with her leading the whole way and you playing passive feminine game. A couple of general strategies: Take the lead immediately Screen/filter her for sex Don't be afraid to terminate the conversation once she starts making demands of you Don't be afraid of offending her. You are softening all of your teasing with your smilies When she offends you, stop giving her any… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/06/15 04:53 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Faced disrespect and held as much frame as possibleAgreed, it's a good thread but maybe belongs in AskTRP. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/06/15 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Question: Disney film and fairytale myths that contradict hypergamy. What's the RP explanation?You are getting down voted because you ignored the recent posting guidelines specifically about avoiding discussions of fictional works. You cannot do a RP analysis on the characters other than to say what agenda the writer has or how it is received by the audience. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/06/15 09:14 PM |
| 11 | Intimidation.You completely missed the point. The second example was the best precisely because it showcased the contrast between red pill (read EFFECTIVE) tactics and expected Blue Pill conditioning. I would not act this way (because I couldn't carry it off congruently) but don't dismiss its effectiveness on women who are psychologically different from men. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/06/15 12:43 PM |
| 27 | Intimidation.You don't have to come up with it on the spot. There was one I read by Roissy that I used to good effect. can I see your bedroom? (We just walked into my place and she is checking it out) "I only let naked women in there." Got the exact same submissive Okay as OP. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/06/15 09:44 AM |
| 49 | The world's biggest & proudest White Knight: "Men are the primary agents and sustainers of rape culture."If you see a woman getting physically abused by a guy, step in Not even then. Use your judgement and situational awareness at all times. If it's a couple having a domestic then half the time they will both turn on the person stepping in. In a busy public space there will be plenty of captain-save-a-hoes. Generally, don't get involved unless you are familiar with the location and ready to bring overwhelming force into the situation. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/06/15 09:31 AM |
| 8 | Uncles female lawyer rude to me everytime. I have held frame but she doesn't know where to stop.You did not hold frame at all. What is your frame? shows me no respect You are whining that this woman shows you no respect? Why should she? I am only there to follow proceedings This is a loser mentality. I'm "only" doing blah blah blah, why won't people just leave me alone and let me do my thing? I am usually nice to her Yep because we know being the nice guy works so well. I said I didn't know about any payments This is where you entered HER frame. I was pissed And you let her get to you emot… | /r/askTRP | 07/06/15 08:41 AM |
| 35 | As luck would have it, throwing someones property out of a moving vehicle doesn't necessarily involve social repercussions.I like the dead friend idea, but instead of calling her a bitch, I'd imply that he will haunt her forever. You can get a lot of mileage out of it too if you know she is superstitious. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/06/15 09:05 AM |
| 2 | Marriage/ divorce laws in Ontario (or Canada for that matter). What should I know or do to protect myself in the event of a divorce.Of course, OP could already be defacto married thanks to common law. | /r/askTRP | 13/05/15 10:36 PM |
| 4 | How should i have responded to these shit tests?A) "Stay classy" B) "Do you think people will be able to tell us apart?" You walked into the second one and you shouldn't have been surprised by her response. Just ignore and plow. | /r/askTRP | 29/04/15 10:42 PM |
| 1 | The stronger you are, the less anyone cares about youCraig is irrelevant but his past actions certainly do paint him as an asshole. Maybe he's turned around but I doubt it and I will explain why. But first, let's look at the point of the story which is the reaction of the audience to Craig's story. People love an underdog and the narrative of overcoming obstacles appeals to just about everyone. Look how far he had fallen, and now he's come so far! Really? You mean he has a job and no longer steals from his friends to support his heroin habit? Well… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/04/15 12:37 PM |
| 9 | WTF exactly does "Being unreactive" mean?Non-reactive is basically stoic. There's a big misconception about stoicism and that they avoided emotion. What they wanted to avoid was "passion". Unfortunately passion means something else these days -- follow your passion; find your passion, etc... So usually this gets translated as emotion. The point of stoicism was to avoid downward spirals where emotions would feed on each other to create a feedback loop. The key to the non-reactive mindset is to stop following all her social cues. Follow … | /r/askTRP | 06/04/15 12:53 AM |
| 7 | "I don't feel the need to try to impress you" complement or calling me a pussy?It's worse than that, she's actually negging him to get the upper hand. OP is feeding into her bullshit. She is downright lying about her LTRs. OP: It's very simple. When she comes over to make you dinner, you will see that she makes you wait for sex guaranteed. Watch what she does, not what she says. PS. Don't LTR this girl no matter what. | /r/askTRP | 02/03/15 06:55 PM |
| 2 | What was a totally beta move you made that you thought would impress a girl that backfired in your pre RP days?Being supportive. | /r/askTRP | 02/03/15 07:58 AM |
| 1 | Workplace sexuality - playing with fireTheir job is to cover their ass. That means that if they fire the man before the investigation is complete it's only because he's an idiot who admitted his guilt and they can point to that as their justification. The man still has options in the form of a wrongful dismissal suit and here is where being an executive will help him. The compensation he can demand, plus libel damages will far exceed what the company would be willing to pay to make the woman go away. The most important thing as a man… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/02/15 06:36 PM |
| 5 | TRIANGULAtION -- AMOG, Girlfriend, and IPlaying the class act is a social lubricant but you don't owe anything to this guy. If he's rude to you, zone him out instead of inviting him into the conversation. Be nice... Until it's time to not be nice. This is one of those times. You seem surprised that the girl didn't back you up despite your "connection" It's more your belief that this connection would make a difference rather than her reaction that leads me to conclude she sees you as BB. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/02/15 10:36 PM |
| 1 | 'Don't tell me what to do' ; 'Don't order me'Context is important. Coworker? Plate? LTR? Did you tell her to "Go get me a beer?" because you are lazy? Did you tell her "Go get your coat" because a fight is about to break out? Was this in bed? Have you already established a dominant frame or are you testing out the waters and getting pushback? In general it's a bad sign if you get this. It means you are in her frame, she does not trust you as a leader, or you miscalibrated the situation. Best case you can reframe and make her feel like she … | /r/askTRP | 21/02/15 06:37 PM |
| 3 | How to react when she's affected by someone shit-testing me?Yes, it is very good progress that you are not offended. However, you are still failing shit-tests because you are letting people usurp your status. Your girlfriend may not shit test you but she will still react to seeing you fail. Your lack of assertiveness may come across as lack of self-esteem. The good news is that now that you have stopped reacting emotionally to these tests is that you have the spare mental capacity to have fun with it. Do not explain yourself or argue logically. Read Ilim… | /r/askTRP | 20/02/15 10:03 PM |
| 1 | LTR: Dread doesn't work with this one. She's...different.I agree there are others, but OP is just describing avoidance. | /r/askTRP | 20/02/15 09:36 PM |
| 1 | Current girl is intimidated by how hot my exes were. How to respond/diffuse?It's reassurance. It's not so far a step from "I'm with you now." to "You're the best I can get." You did pick up on the comfort aspect, but that is exactly what you don't want (within reason). | /r/askTRP | 20/02/15 11:21 AM |
| 8 | LTR: Dread doesn't work with this one. She's...different.You are not describing dread at all, you are describing nexting. Dread is when she perceives other girls being interested in you. So if she knows you have other options she has to compete for your attention. | /r/askTRP | 20/02/15 11:08 AM |
| 2 | I've heard this "Don't look better than the girl you're taking out." This seems like a beta thing, is it a beta thing? If it's not a beta thing, then why would we decrease our SMV?There's a third interpretation (and my preferred one). If you look better than her, wtf are you doing dating a 7 when you should be going after 9s. | /r/askTRP | 12/02/15 08:53 PM |
| 2 | "Lying" in an LTRYeah I know what you mean. It's also a lot of mental effort to keep this up for the long run. I would do this with my last ex, but instead of getting interrogated I got the silent treatment. Still, it's more effective than answering her questions because that then becomes the new expectation and once you give them an inch... | /r/TheRedPill | 12/02/15 08:37 PM |
| 3 | "Lying" in an LTRAgreed 100% with your statement that the moment you "open up" she will start to lose sexual interest. You are building comfort at the expense of mystery/arousal/attraction. You can open up selectively during times when you've overplayed your hand. Most times all you need to do is lead her emotions. Just remember that opening up means telling her a little about your past or maybe some goal or direction or plan. Never ever under any circumstance do you share any insecurities or doubts. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/02/15 06:43 PM |
| 6 | "Lying" in an LTRI wasn't clear. All the lies should be extensions of A&A and be obvious lies. As soon as she catches you in a lie, you just tell another. You are at no point taking her interrogation seriously. Do not do this: Where were you last night? Out. Who were you with? People. Was Anna there? <silence> Contrast with: Where were you last night? I robbed a bank. Who were you with? My henchmen, and a giraffe. Was Anna there? Yes, she drove the getaway car. If she contradicts you: You weren't robbing a bank.… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/02/15 06:23 PM |
| 3 | "Lying" in an LTRI don't think shutting up is as effective as being willfully inconsistent. Most guys have a tendency to get pulled into the logical realm when confronted with logical questions. That is the card the interrogator is playing. By shutting up, you are entering her frame and solidifying her role as the interrogator. Someone already said use a&a, which is great advice, especially in this situation. Say one thing, then another. Intentionally contradict yourself. Let her catch you in a lie and then make… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/02/15 09:37 AM |
| 2 | [FR] solo night, girls begging for drinks, eye contact and girls bringing up boyfriendsBf is likely beta bucks and she feels nothing but contempt for him. Girl will push the boundaries because bf being there lets her justify even more that it's not her fault. Logistically it wasn't good and that is the showstopper. Also, you can easily misread the situation because as soon as the girl loses her audience (the bf) her responses will become subdued. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/02/15 09:22 AM |
| 1 | I'm not one of you... but I humbly ask for your perspective/help in getting over my ex.Realize now that she only got back together with you to give it another try because you walked away. It was her scarcity mentality that was now working in your favor. The outcome was preordained. She wanted what she couldn't have, but as soon as she got it, she didn't want it anymore. Your weakness was not during the period after you took her back, but in the fact that you took her back at all. She got closure and you got grief. | /r/askTRP | 07/02/15 07:51 PM |
| 1 | I'm not one of you... but I humbly ask for your perspective/help in getting over my ex.There are no surprises here. polyamorous relationship It's not about "whelp, there you go." It's about false equivalence. All other things being equal, the man will never benefit from this arrangement as much as the woman. It's the same thing when people argue that "whoever asks the person out should pay." It's a way of spinning the truth to seem equal when the result is anything but. Hint: 99.9% of the time it's the guy who will do the asking because that is where we are societally and biologic… | /r/askTRP | 07/02/15 05:03 PM |
| 1 | I am a 19m with too many beta tendencies in a LTR with an 18f who may have BPD. Need adviceI think we took a step in the right direction though Are these her words or yours? You have crawled so far into her frame that you have forgotten how to walk on your own two feet. The only right direction is the one that takes you away from her as fast as possible. She will manipulate you hardcore and it is already working. Just rip off the bandaid, and since you've already decided to leave her, just do it instead of prolonging the inevitable. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/02/15 02:07 PM |
| 2 | SkittlesYou are missing the point if you give lingerie alongside the skittles. Here's the origin: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/ | /r/askTRP | 05/02/15 08:30 PM |
| 1 | how to deal with sassy gay guy at work?Think of it as training your wit. Here, use this as inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3h6es6zh1c | /r/askTRP | 02/02/15 07:37 PM |
| 2 | Girlfriend feels insecure about my past history with women, doesn't trust me, breaks up with me."she doesn't feel good about herself when she's with me." Yeah, that's probably indigestion. Next time I cook. "oh, mad_draper561 just found himself a new plate and she's just another girl for him to sleep with." This would never come up because she should not know the meaning of the word plate. WTF OP Did you tell her about TRP? I get pissed off and tell her I'm leaving Shit test passed. Watch what she does, not what she says!!! me constantly asking what it is she wants or how she feels What do… | /r/askTRP | 01/02/15 03:17 PM |
| 2 | This chick's behavior is throwing me for a loop. Any advice or insight?One thing she mentioned when we first started talking was that she had a "bad breakup" last year. Drama queen - you will be her next "bad breakup" because you "didn't listen to her when she said no." She is pretty young (22) so I don't know how many partners she has had but I'd wager its average. I'd take that bet. You are projecting by thinking she lost her virginity at the same age as you, or that she hasn't had casual sex that doesn't "count" in her mind. Chances are she started early and has… | /r/askTRP | 01/02/15 09:49 AM |
| 7 | [FR] How to turn an unruly plate into a sexual servantshe'll find another beta to comfort her Sounds like a win to me. This girl is not his gf and definitely not LTR material. OP can buy her a pack of skittles in two weeks. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/01/15 10:29 PM |
| 6 | This chick's behavior is throwing me for a loop. Any advice or insight?"Your behavior last weekend made me nervous. I have had a problem in the past with guys not listening to me when I say no." A girl who says this is not LTR material. If a girl is throwing up a red flag like this, stop investing. One or more of the following is true: she heavily relies on fantasies of rape to get off - otherwise she would not bring up this topic she has a slutty history (fucks a lot and never says no, nor takes responsibility for her actions) she has BPD -- This kind of rewriting… | /r/askTRP | 31/01/15 10:17 PM |
| 23 | Guy dates fat chick. Fat chick loses weight and finds a better man.Just to add an anecdote to that. There was a guy at work who after a long discussion with his wife, they both decided to get it done.. But he made a small scheduling error.. He let her go first. She wouldn't even wait the 6 weeks it would have taken him to get his operation in. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/15 10:42 PM |
| 1 | LTR shit-test by giving "Too nice to say no" as excuse for giving her number out.I understand what you're saying but you are falling prey to both scarcity mentality and sunk cost fallacy. Maybe the relationship is salvageable and maybe the best thing to come from this is that op must learn to set boundaries early during screening for LTR. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/15 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Female coworker having emotional issues at consulting firmYep, exactly right... The objective of my points is to reframe the situation again into "It seems like you can't hack it. Prove me wrong." Everything there has a dual purpose and that is why the people advocating PowerTalk have it exactly right. IMO the best response would have been to offer to reschedule the meeting, but now you just have to deal with the situation as it is. Your response read like a script but glad you understand that pointing it out to the girl isn't doing you any favors. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/01/15 09:27 PM |
| 2 | Female coworker having emotional issues at consulting firm"Playing on your phone during an important business meeting is childish behavior. If you want to be treated like an adult, act like one." as the suggested response. You honestly think that is better? No, this is horrible. My point is that you should not alienate the girl or make her your enemy. You might be able to cover your ass by "mansplaining" but in the long run, the girl will sabotage you if you do not have her in hand. You go ahead and do what you want. I was simply pointing out that inte… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/01/15 09:00 PM |
| 12 | Recent LTR declined sex last night, thoughts?You've lost all mystery by having her over for a week. She feels the shift in power because you are spending all your time with her and there are no signs of other girls sniffing around. Refocus and get your priorities in order. Don't just soft next her and tell her you are busy. Actually get busy and realize that she is not the priority in your life. Her ego is completely overinflated at this point. You are spoling HER by letting her stay with you. She is reading this as neediness, and now she … | /r/askTRP | 22/01/15 08:38 PM |
| 0 | Female coworker having emotional issues at consulting firmRespond back that you have a busy schedule. When you schedule meetings you want to be productive without wasting time. If they need to use their phone in the meeting, you can reschedule to a time that they won't be distracted. This is pretty bad advice. You are advocating the use of straight talk, logic, and justification. That means you have lost on every front imaginable. Do you think this will make the girl say "oh sorry, I was wrong"? Do you think that it will change her behavior in the futu… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/01/15 08:09 PM |
| 1 | A small compendium of concrete manipulation techniquesAnother way of looking at it: what if this was salary information? I've had people ask me. I just don't tell them. Even as a contractor on a daily rate, the agents will do everything in their power to get you to commit. It will never work in your favor to give that information away. So clearly this person just placed a higher value on this information than you did. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/01/15 04:09 PM |
| 2 | A small compendium of concrete manipulation techniquesAnother way of looking at it is that you gained some valuable insight into this person's character. This junior employee is short sighted and looking for immediate payoff rather than building a relationship. I.e. Watch your back. The lesson for me is always throw the person some crumbs and see if they reciprocate. Curious how they refused. Did they blow you off and just not respond or did they cite confidentiality or give no reason at all? | /r/TheRedPill | 22/01/15 10:36 AM |
| 2 | Can you hold this for a second?Still not as well as I'd like. Sometimes gets a laugh. Still have to hold the frame and go into a war story (distract) or redirect/stack until she gets confused and forgets that she asked me. It's draining unless I'm in a really good mood. The only other thing you can do is get her to do something for you. But I don't like this approach because you are negotiating and because she wants you to carry her purse NOW (remember Briffault's Law). | /r/askTRP | 09/01/15 07:11 PM |
| 2 | Can you hold this for a second?I also have this come up a lot. I've tried so many different tactics. Asian girls (HK?) will especially expect you to carry around their tiny purses but I've seen this in many contexts. I used to just hold it for a while and then after 10 seconds either give it back or put it down. That just pisses the girl off and there's no upside. I had one girl tell me that she was coming to see me and the bag was heavy full of her overnight stuff. That was a difficult one, because I knew she was telling the… | /r/askTRP | 09/01/15 07:00 PM |
| 1 | A guide for how to seduce men, written by a manHe does focus a lot on attitude, but I think he glosses over a key point. Someone once wrote that there are only two steps to follow for a woman to get a man. improve your looks lower your expectations | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/15 10:01 AM |
| 6 | Girldriend gained significant weight since start of relationship. How do I get her to lose it?I have a buddy who went on a few dates with a girl he knew. He finally got her back to her place and they started making out. The clothes started to come off. Once she was naked he picked her up and carried her into the bedroom and put her on the bed. Then, at this most critical point, he looked down and saw her stomach rolls, said "nah", and walked off into the night. The next semester, she was fit. | /r/askTRP | 08/01/15 03:04 AM |
| 2 | I want to tell a girl I just broke up with I knew she was sleeping around. What should I do?If you do tell her, it will only make her cover up her behavior better next time. Also, she will blame you, and pre-emptively start spreading rumours about you. On the plus side, you will stroke your ego and feel some righteous indignation. Worth it? You decide. Your frame is crumbling. It's telling that the title of your post contains "girl I just broke up with" when she was only a plate. Your story should be that she is possessive and crazy. You were not previously, are not currently and will … | /r/askTRP | 08/01/15 02:54 AM |
| 4 | Was this a good response to a shit test?It's not a great response.. Returning an insult for insult will get you nowhere. But if what you say is true, then just shutting her down may be your best play and don't worry about passing any shit test. Passing a shit test will just get her more interested in you. Is this what you want? Otherwise: (Date?) No, I'd mount her. How tall are you? ... Nah, probably not. | /r/askTRP | 07/01/15 05:59 PM |
| 4 | How would you respond to a girl saying: "A guy should love me for me. I shouldn't have to change for a guy"?Change? I love you for what's inside. Your warmth and depth. | /r/askTRP | 06/01/15 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Low SMV dude reads Roosh and does 3000 approaches, gets nothing.Technically that is a cold approach with an approach invitation. Warm approach is when someone introduces you or you already have an in with the girl. The advantages of cold approaching are that you are meeting girls outside your social circle, you are stepping outside your comfort zone, and you are getting real feedback about the state of your game. A lot of the guys who practice cold approach later leverage that talent to pick up girls during their travels that they wouldn't be able to meet us… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/01/15 04:14 AM |
| 3 | LTR upset because she's not a "priority" to me because of texting habitsshe wishes I made her a priority as much as she makes me one Don't read anything into this. It means less than nothing and she is only saying this for attention - "look what a great girlfriend I am" It is a lightweight shit test.. Next time you are with her and you see her texting, reframe that SHE has terrible texting habbits, putting the phone ahead of your relationship. Then tell her that when you are out with someone or doing some activity you are 100% focused on that. Don't "explain" using … | /r/askTRP | 05/01/15 06:41 PM |
| 10 | TIL that Barack Obama's wife once threatened to divorce him after he lost an electionIt was Rollo's Mutiny article on therationalmale.com | /r/TheRedPill | 02/01/15 02:12 PM |
| 6 | Don't be a suckerYeah where _____ is the neighborhood crack house. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/12/14 08:38 PM |
| 1 | How to battle against the female dinner phenomenonI am saying that when fighting expectations you need to hold a stronger frame, especially when this clash first occurs. If you go along to get along you are entering her frame and since her frame is backed by her cultural expectations you will never dig yourself out. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/12/14 12:54 PM |
| 4 | How to battle against the female dinner phenomenonI really like the idea of calling the girl out and making your value explicit by asking if she needs you to pay for her. That may be a good move in some circumstances. The problem is that you are establishing a bad habit, and the context of what you are exchanging can work against you. You may enter a negotiation frame rather than establish genuine desire. The best response I have found is to subcommunicate your expectation that she pay for herself. Don't be a jackass by refusing to pay. A bit o… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/12/14 02:49 PM |
| 4 | As of late, there have been word-play Kryptonite used against men to disable any possible advancements. This word play is to be called "Creepy" by a woman. Even tho many women are creepy this same tatic used against them doesn't work as well. What word disables a woman as "creepy" to a man?It's a Catch-22. If you can snipe with an offhand comment, display amused mastery, and get ahead in the social game then you are already savy enough to either avoid the situation to begin with, or instinctively know how to get out of it. That said, I do think there is a general strategy for countering these attacks. snipe - it's targeted and quick. offhand - you must maintain plausible deniability The key to getting away with this is to make the person you are talking to feel smart for having fi… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/12/14 02:42 PM |
| 1 | As of late, there have been word-play Kryptonite used against men to disable any possible advancements. This word play is to be called "Creepy" by a woman. Even tho many women are creepy this same tatic used against them doesn't work as well. What word disables a woman as "creepy" to a man?Sometimes there is a place for pre-emptive attack. If you know a girl is going to sabotage you, that is the time to discredit her. Agreed that you should raise your SMV as high as possible so that any girl calling you creepy just comes across as delusional. But we don't live in this ideal world. To answer OP's question: Weird, strange, clingy, forward You have to be clever by implying things through sub communication and not by saying them outright. You want to imply that she does not fit in, or… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/12/14 04:29 AM |
| 1 | Move to that big city you've dreamed of. It will CHANGE your life. Part 1/5I'm sure you know this but for everyone else, TN visa ties you to the employer so there's no mobility. Also, university degree is mandatory as well as a job offer in hand. That said it's a piece of piss to get, just some paperwork at the border and a short interview. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/14 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Redditor's wife of 16 years has emotional affair with coworker, skips their anniversary dinner to spend time with said coworkerI don't believe he confronted her, he only thinks he did. He probably "had a talk" where he whined about how uncomfortable he felt with her behavior. As a man, you have to establish boundaries. He was handicapped because it's clear he hadn't done it before, she had no respect for him, and her daddy issues were going to make a healthy relationship the road less travelled. His only play after a real confrontation is hard core dread game. Start hitting the gym five times a week, start a new hobby, … | /r/TheRedPill | 22/12/14 01:41 AM |
| 2 | Optimal response to 'bitches' at the bar? - to get her to question herself?Master the neg. It's overused and mishandled but this is the situation it was designed for. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/12/14 06:05 PM |
| 2 | How to divorce a womanThere was another guy who posted a while back and he said never bring your parents to court with you. They will say that of course they are ready to support you so she will get the house and you can live with them. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/12/14 11:26 PM |
| 13 | How TRP helped me avoid a race traitor Asian girl.There is a red pill Asian sub. Agreed with what you wrote though. Watch what women do, not what they say. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/12/14 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Running with a friend. LTR is pissedThis thread is the perfect example of what Rollo means when he talks about the feminine imperative. Anything that maximizes hypergamy for the woman and minimizes options for the man becomes correct behavior. The guys who think it's not ok to be in the presence of other women while being in an LTR are operating from a scarcity mentality, have bought into this bs idea of emotionally cheating, and are inadvertently pushing a blue-pill-lite equalist agenda. | /r/askTRP | 13/12/14 12:11 PM |
| 2 | Running with a friend. LTR is pissedThink of this as an opportunity to practice state control. Things to AVOID DOING: Any sort of ultimatum Any sort of admission of guilt Any sort of apology Acting butthurt Getting emotionally invested in the outcome Supplication - i.e. trying to make her feel better Things to consider: This girl is immature. What is this high school drama bullshit? Consider it a red flag and if she throws up too many of these, move on. Depending on how often you see your gf (do you live together?), and how she is… | /r/askTRP | 12/12/14 11:42 PM |
| 1 | What to do when you get caught red-handed using a line from a manosphere site?I'd go for ambiguous denial. heh, great minds think alike thanks | /r/askTRP | 09/12/14 11:21 PM |
| 22 | FR: Walking Away From An HB9 Can Be Hard. Do It Anyway (if the alternative is oneitis and/or emotional harm).No, he writes like someone who has read the sidebar. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/12/14 08:45 AM |
| 6 | Fucking Do Shit - SMV in ActionIce cream.. Ice cream makes me happy. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/11/14 11:37 PM |
| 2 | [48 Days of Power] Day 3 - "Conceal your intentions"I have a story for this one. I was out with a mixed group of guys and girls in a big city. One of the guys was having a (verbal) fight with a girl. The guy had some balls, but no real wisdom. They were each from different countries, so it was all passion and no substance. Some key bits: she tells him to go home; he tells me "I'm not crazy, I fuck her yesterday." All drama. Anyway, I pick up the girl over my shoulder and carry her off playfully just to diffuse this stupid argument. I put her down… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/11/14 08:44 AM |
| 3 | How do you become a more confident speaker?When you lack confidence, that can manifest itself in certain behaviors that that the speech coach is trained to look for. So you can gain confidence in two ways: Firstly, Speak about a topic that you are knowledgable and passionate about. If you know you are the authority, that will come through. Secondly, and this is my preferred approach, speak OFTEN on a variety of topics. The practice you get will make you more comfortable with the stage and if you focus on eliminating those behaviors that … | /r/TheRedPill | 09/11/14 03:29 PM |
| 1 | How do you become a more confident speaker?I got to the third page where the advice boils down to "Just Be Yourself." | /r/TheRedPill | 09/11/14 03:18 PM |
| 3 | How do you become a more confident speaker?Agree with practice, but memorizing your speech is not at all a requirement to being a great speaker. You need deliberate practice, where you actually just focus on one aspect of speaking. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/11/14 03:15 PM |
| 10 | Shit test conflicting two RP pillarsSounds like this date is a dinner date, so you may have missed the pillar that says don't meet dates for dinner. Unless it's an activity? You got delegated to so it's too late to delegate to her. Worst thing you can do is make a big deal about it. It's a problem if it becomes a pattern. Some women just want to have the last word on everything (you tell her to meet you at 6, she suggests 7, counter-proposal to every idea you bring up, etc...) They are not worth the hassle. Book the activity/table… | /r/askTRP | 04/11/14 07:30 PM |
| 2 | /r/theredpill sent me here. I have a problem and need advice please!Problem is, 2 weeks before we met she had fucked some random guy Goto article on this theme: http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/ I told her the longest I'm willing to go without any type of sex is 3 months Mistake, this is laying your cards on the table. She may very well string you along for three months, then force you to dump her and blame you for the failure of the relationship. Or if you fail to dump her, she will lose all respect for you and then string you along more (w… | /r/askTRP | 19/10/14 11:02 PM |
| 1 | How to deal with LTR getting vagina tingles over a D list musician offering her guest passes?Usually things aren't so cut and dried. You are lucky, because there is no ambiguity to what you must do. I'll be going to the show with my friends this time. You can't be around because she wants to fuck him. Why can't (musician) be my BF? Complete lack of respect. Publically announced. Hard next is the only answer. | /r/askTRP | 14/10/14 11:11 PM |
| 3 | "You pick up girls. I cant take you seriously"Not only did you fail the shit test, you got sucked into her frame. As /u/SkorchZang said, don't take anything she says seriously and at face value. Another good response is kino + "That's cool, I'm not looking for anything serious either." i.e. misinterpret her statement to have the opposite meaning.. Classic reframe. If she is attracted then you will have smashed that test and escalated at the same time. | /r/askTRP | 13/10/14 12:50 PM |
| 2 | She said I'm too rough. Is it over?You're getting feedback about what she wants from you in the future. Why would you think it's over? She wouldn't tell you this if she just wanted you out of her life. Two more truisms to think about: Watch what women do, not what they say. Don't take this to mean that you should ignore her comments about pain. Just be aware that if she says "It's over" but then texts you to see how your day has been, then it's not over by a long shot. Contrast is king. If all she is getting from you is rough sex… | /r/askTRP | 09/10/14 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Argentina is red pill nightmareIt's worse than that. The graph you showed is the official government rate, which is mandated. The government in Argentina has made it illegal for anyone to exchange currencies except with the government. I was there about two years ago, and the black market is a much better indicator of how things really stand. At the time the official rate was around 4-5, but you could easily get 7-10 on the black market depending on how much risk you wanted to take. Now that the official rate is 8.43, I'm cur… | /r/TheRedPill | 09/10/14 08:33 AM |
| 2 | LTR is hyperaware of trp/gameIf she's not LTR material, why are you in an LTR with her? You are just hamstering. The practice you will get going after other girls is way more valuable than staying with this toxic bitch. The best response is a slow fadeaway with an "I've been busy" if she tries to call you. Don't let her stay with you. WTF. Consider this: You are (intentionally?) making mistakes with this girl. You are practicing the WRONG responses. That's like a basketball player intentionally missing the hoop because if h… | /r/askTRP | 08/10/14 08:54 AM |
| 5 | What do you do when escalation fails?Two steps forward, one step back. No, don't act like it didn't happen (unless you are going to try again within the next ten minute), that is weak and passive. You could change the frame but you would really need to do a superb job.. Why would you want to change the frame? The frame "I am a man and I go for what I want without apology" is pretty solid. Just stick with that. Here are some backups that I've used successfully: "Ok, I'll just keep my hands to myself... For now." "ah, you're shy.. Ho… | /r/askTRP | 02/10/14 11:38 PM |
| 2 | That awkward silence when the check comes..."you gonna make my friends pay for you?" This is brilliant on many levels. It's a great reframe and puts the girl on the outside of the group so that social pressure is working in your favor. | /r/askTRP | 30/09/14 06:38 PM |
| 10 | Success, then cock blocked by my beta friend, didn't know how to dealJim is not your friend as others have already said. I would bet $100 he's backstabbing you when he is with the girl, reinforcing the idea that you need to apologize. You can either confront him by himself or in front of the girl, or you can outplay him at his own game: "I see you brought your stalker with you. Nice." "Jim keeps winking at me from that table. Do you think he's gay?" "Hey Jim, I'm gonna go to the bathroom now. You gonna follow me there too?" Don't let the girl get away with the ha… | /r/askTRP | 24/09/14 01:02 AM |
| 2 | Know of any good books about the learning process and/or skill building?Mastery by George Leonard. | /r/askTRP | 18/09/14 02:33 PM |
| 3 | U.S. Hikes Fee To Renounce Citizenship By 422% Cost has gone up from $400 to $2000.Do you think banks actually use wire transfers to move money between themselves? If banks need cash, they use the repo market. If they need to exchange US dollars, they enter into an FX Swap. Your critical thinking skills will not serve you if you do not know how banking works, and spreading misinformation to further your argument just makes you look like a tool. I agree with you that banks cannot function if subject to a 30% witholding tax, and that is why banks will either comply with the IRS'… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/14 11:02 PM |
| 0 | U.S. Hikes Fee To Renounce Citizenship By 422% Cost has gone up from $400 to $2000.America is one of only three countries in the world that taxes by citizenship and not residence. Even Eritrea only charges a flat 2%. Of course the laws don't apply to most people, because most people are not Americans living abroad in a country that doesn't have a tax treaty with the US. The people this DOES affect are those who maybe are not aware they still have to file their returns and report all their worldwide income and pay the difference (assuming a tax treaty exists). The penalty for n… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/14 12:44 PM |
| 0 | U.S. Hikes Fee To Renounce Citizenship By 422% Cost has gone up from $400 to $2000.Under US law, all foreign banks have to report to the IRS all US depositors. If the bank refuses to devulge this information all of thier US assets can be siezed. This is incorrect.. If the bank refuses to participate by providing this information, they get hit with 30% tax for all transactions going through the US. Not quite the same as getting all their assets seized. A lot of smaller banks are just refusing to take US customers abroad (like you wrote). The definition of a "US Person" is very … | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/14 12:32 PM |
| 2 | I can't shake this rape accusation...This is the worst advice ever. There is no universe in which getting the police involved will make this situation better. Don't speak to the police without a lawyer. | /r/askTRP | 31/08/14 10:01 AM |
| 4 | Who pays on a date?people have this idea of spending any money on a girl = beta = bad. it's too simplistic. Yeah I covered stuff you might want to pay for. My main point was that you need to hold your frame. The Brad Pitt thing is a strawman. His SMV is so high that it doesn't matter if he makes her pay for both. It's not so cut and dry which one is more attractive either because if you give girls drama they will be thinking of you. If a girl is unused to paying and she is emotionally convinced that she should pay… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/08/14 03:08 PM |
| 45 | Who pays on a date?Stop dating. By that I mean, don't think of it as a date. Definitely do not invite a girl out to dinner; just call her up to hang out, grab a drink, or do some activity. Paying for her will work against you as /u/jamieoneal82 already said. Setting the tone is especially important. Decide beforehand what's ok to pay for (coffee, first round, cab fare for a shared ride back to your place) and what's not ok (dinner, bottle service, movie tickets). Then stick to that and don't let her sway you with … | /r/TheRedPill | 16/08/14 11:49 AM |
| 2 | [FR] Yes, all women are like that, and they should all be spun. Plates and Frame ControlI think it depends on how he framed the reversal. If it was "Oh you agree with me and my boundaries (non-exclusivity), that's cool we can be together." It sounds like the loss in frame was a deeper issue because he started treating the girl differently. I can relate 100% because I do (incorrectly) treat some girls as "nice" girls thinking I can't spin them. Then later I find out just how easy it would have been. Example: Married couple I met travelling a few years ago. Girl messages me on facebo… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/08/14 05:50 PM |
| 3 | I loved a girl, she rejected me, I cut off contact. 4 years later, mutual friend wants us to give it a go at a relationship.http://laidnyc.wordpress.com/2013/08/14/closure-is-bullshit/ | /r/askTRP | 10/08/14 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Should I buy her (A Russian Girl) flower/s on the first date?The thing is, that she is young. If she was past 25, I wouldn't even be thinking about this. However, she is 19 and doesn't know any better. You are making excuses here. If she is inexperienced, then it's up to you to show her the way. Sounds like you are tolerating more behavior and acting more beta with younger chicks. And you say it takes you more dates to get laid? What a curious correlation. Go with what works. Did you get blown out when you called the younger girls on their shit instead of… | /r/trpGAME | 09/08/14 11:37 PM |
| 7 | Should I buy her (A Russian Girl) flower/s on the first date?I personally wouldn't, but I also think that cultural differences are legitimate reasons for breaking some of the established "rules" we have for dealing with girls. Here's the thing. It will make your life easier in the short term. Following the cultural norm will mean the girl is comfortable. And going against the grain can backfire. She may think you are uncultured or brutish or that you just don't care about her. So picture this. You go to your date and you bring her flowers. Just like every… | /r/trpGAME | 09/08/14 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Canceled date because I believe in dating equality....Great analysis. I will add some points: Her: And I got all pretty for you (she sent a picture). Lol sorry my dad told me I should never pay for the guy. Her: Have you taken Medicine? Me: Do you always listen to your dad? I like your outfit by the way. This is the perfect example of supplication. Now, here is the deeper underlying problem. OP is thinking that he is challenging her by asking if she always listens to her dad. He is trying to set himself up as an authority by complimenting her outfi… | /r/askTRP | 09/08/14 03:00 PM |
| 2 | [Q] When do you think women begin to "recognise" TRP tactics?Only if they are aware of it AND you use the terminology AND you are not attractive. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/07/14 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Messed up at the end of date, advice on how to proceed?Great tip on the one-armed hug. The one thing that you didn't mention is how to react to a "failure." As in, the girl responds negatively to your escalation. First, the chances of any type of failure is extremely low and mostly in the guy's head. There are different failure modes... She turns the cheek when you go in for the kiss.. You shouldn't have waited until the end of the night to kiss her! Escalate early and often. If the night is still not over, then just try again later after she gets u… | /r/trpGAME | 15/07/14 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Striking fast or risk losing the girl?Yes. There are points at which you have to escalate or she will lose interest. The farther you get the more leeway you have with the timing. meeting touching kissing If you hang out "as friends" without making your sexual intentions clear, it will be 10x harder for her to see you as anything else. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/07/14 11:41 PM |
| 4 | How do I get my gf to be more submissive?Is your goal to make your gf more submissive to you or to other men? | /r/askTRP | 03/07/14 11:31 PM |
| 4 | How do I get my gf to be more submissive?change the password to x loves Ambilurk1's cock Sometimes you gotta let the girl win ;) | /r/askTRP | 03/07/14 09:50 AM |
| 3 | Are girls always this flakey or is it just me?No you can't. The only way to keep a girl from flaking is by making sure she is invested. If she flakes, that just means you didn't hit the buttons that make her attracted to you. That's regardless of whether it's online or in person. Girls will keep responding online and text even if they aren't that interested because it gives them validation. You still have a chance to convert, but it's not in the bag. | /r/askTRP | 03/07/14 09:48 AM |
| 5 | The girl walked out of my room. What should I do now?Get a new girl. Don't tell the next one you are a virgin. She didn't want to deal with the emotional fallout of being your first, and based on your reaction, she is completely right. Just to be clear when I say emotional fallout, I mean you being clingy. | /r/askTRP | 26/06/14 11:51 AM |
| 1 | I thought blood was thicker than water. Until I broke up with my girlfriend for getting fat.Agree with you, and I've never given the real reason for a breakup. But the mistake was compounded by OP explaining himself to his family. He should have used one of the many cliches: I found myself falling out of love with her Something changed I just wasn't attracted any more However, since he told her the true reason and she called everyone in his family to complain, his recourse was: LIE. No, I didn't say that. Is that what she told you? And the key phrase after someone finishes telling you … | /r/TheRedPill | 26/06/14 11:11 AM |
| 2 | Do you pay on dates?If you are in the habit of always paying definitely stop and see what you are capable of getting away with, especially with new girls. The problem with paying is that it sets a precedent and if you do it twice it becomes expected. You will set the tone of the relationship and probably not the one you want. Once you are comfortable not paying, then you can choose when to pay and when not to pay. In general: don't go out for a meal on a day 2 do pay for a coffee - just not a big deal or worth comi… | /r/askTRP | 17/06/14 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Girl asked me why I deleted her numberYou can play it one of two ways. Either keep evading, or tell her the truth - that you thought she was wasting your time. I'd go with evasion at first, and the more ridiculous the better. Keep changing your story. What are you talking about? I didn't delete your number. Who are you again? Nope, doesn't ring a bell. Were you that girl with the crooked nose / limp / crossed eyes / lopsided breasts? Were you cool or did you do something that made me erase your number? Maybe you erased your number M… | /r/askTRP | 17/06/14 03:35 AM |
| 0 | FR: Escaping the friend zone with an ex-LTRI see what you mean, it was a bit unusual but she did deny sex and thought we could have a platonic relationship. The difference from typical friend zone situation was that we had a shared sexual history. Yes, the story about the ex was true, though I gave her just as much detail as I did in the write up above. Happened about a year ago and even though I hadn't seen her in many years she still was bitter about the breakup. She came over to my place, I decided the drama wasn't worth sleeping with… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/06/14 09:06 PM |
| 1 | FR: Escaping the friend zone with an ex-LTRI think the reason it worked so quickly in my case is because I made it very clear friendship was not an option. It wasn't a power play, I did actually mean it and would have followed through. Women follow a dualistic mating strategy. In this case she was trying to trap me between provider and friend: no sex without commitment. I had to make it clear she would lose me completely if those were my only options. Of course the other key point is that she was still physically attracted to me, and I w… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/06/14 01:16 PM |
| 28 | FR: Escaping the friend zone with an ex-LTRShe said meaningful. Freudian slip and there was no point in correcting her. She heard what she wanted to hear. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/06/14 03:16 AM |
| 2 | FR: Escaping the Friend Zone...but not reallyYes, demonstrating discretion is important, but I think it's possible to get ahead with something like: "Did I walk you home? I don't remember, I must have been very drunk. Glad to hear you didn't take advantage of me." | /r/TheRedPill | 16/06/14 01:10 AM |
| 18 | Is it a bad idea to approach other women in the same venue after getting rejected by one?If they are not within hearing range, they should have no idea that you got rejected. If you are the one with a smile on your face and a good vibe, then people will just think the girl is uptight. If you hold your head in shame or look deflated then yeah your buddy is right. Keep in mind that a blue pill mindset will generate any sort of excuse to avoid approaching. | /r/trpGAME | 09/06/14 10:20 AM |
| 18 | "Let's Take A Break": How to proceed?"No. We're done." /thread Sorry bro, but she lost attraction for you. The reasons don't matter. Go find someone else. | /r/askTRP | 03/06/14 08:46 PM |
| 2 | /r/sex and /r/relationships often propagate communication as the key to a healthy LTR. The more I read on The Red Pill, the more I start to believe that not communication, but rather action is key to a healthy LTR. What's TRP's thought on this?Communication is such a vague term that it needs to be broken down into more specialized concepts. A man who focuses on communication will just miss all the subtleties. If you focus on polarity, the right type of communication will naturally emerge. When most people think of communication they think of expressing your thoughts, desires, and feelings verbally. That is just surface-level communication. Next, you can change the meaning of a statement through inflection, gesture, eye-roll. Think of … | /r/askTRP | 03/06/14 11:58 AM |
| 28 | /r/sex and /r/relationships often propagate communication as the key to a healthy LTR. The more I read on The Red Pill, the more I start to believe that not communication, but rather action is key to a healthy LTR. What's TRP's thought on this?Communication as the key to a healthy LTR is definitely a blue pill way of thinking. It sounds so reasonable on the surface. The problem is that most men will interpret this to mean that logical and rational discourse by "talking things out" will allow you to overcome any problems - which are of course all caused by miscommunication as hilariously portrayed by modern day sitcoms. Blue pill men will further dig themselves into a hole because their thought process will be "If only I can make her u… | /r/askTRP | 02/06/14 10:07 AM |
| 2 | Guy hamsters his girlfriend giving a stripper a blowjob at a party, despite even r/relationships telling him otherwise.Here's the go to article on the topic: http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/21/relational-equity/ | /r/TheRedPill | 30/05/14 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Time investment, can I get some feedback on my logic.Yes, and specifically when it comes to women: http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/21/relational-equity/ | /r/askTRP | 28/05/14 12:05 PM |
| 2 | Dating high value girl, need input (drama-bullshit inside)She told me about her ex who cheated on her, how she's dated huge assholes in the past This is how girls give you the roadmap to their pussy. She is basically telling you "I respond well to being treated like shit." You should have downgraded her to plate at this point. You did exactly the wrong thing: wow, this girl might be a unicorn. we have a long discussion about it Which is why she responded with: she tells me she's not staying over because I made her feel shitty. The incident with the sis… | /r/askTRP | 27/05/14 03:17 PM |
| -2 | How to Handle other "Alphas"Frame is everything. You seem to have handled it well, though you didn't give much detail about the type of joke you responded with. You could have worked the Napoleon angle. He tells you to put firewood in the fire, you just casually remark: "Wow he's a bit of a dictator isn't he?" If he continues just ask him "Overcompensate much?" Everytime he does something like this to someone else, make a remark: "So ALPHA!" You had the tools you needed - best way to win is to use the truth to your advanta… | /r/askTRP | 27/05/14 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Logistics - "Can we meet closer to my place?" My sticking pointYour advice was spot on. Backtracking on the logistics to find a central place seems to have hurt me.. I was still flirting and getting responses but when I tried to nail down a time and place she told me she just started dating someone, etc.. Likely she just wanted the validation and I didn't build enough attraction, so it would have turned out the same either way.. BUT, I did find a great tip in Krauser's new book: Suggest the time/date first. Then once you have agreement reveal the location. … | /r/trpGAME | 21/05/14 10:35 PM |
| 1 | A question about how to textYeah don't use smiley faces unless you are teasing her. Nebulous plans are less likely to work. Just send out a feeler with an oblique reference to something you called her or made fun of or talked about: Hey so this is the crazy party girl. Or something interesting that you saw or experienced. I just recovered my phone from the bottom of the ocean. I feel like Jacques Cousteau. If she flirts, acknowledge it and send a feeler for whatever it is you want to do.. tea/drink/activity. Don't suggest … | /r/askTRP | 21/05/14 10:26 PM |
| 2 | A question about how to textDon't overuse smiley faces, but they can take the sting out of a tease. I really enjoyed catching up with you the other night. Too complimentary. You are better off telling her about something interesting that is happening to you right now or what you are doing. Don't do dinner as a first date. Just meet for drinks. Also picked up a great tip from Krauser's book: Ask about the time first and when you get agreement then suggest the venue. Less for her to object to. Agreed that you need to get to … | /r/askTRP | 21/05/14 10:07 PM |
| 3 | Help me pass this shit test. Exes want to be friends again."I've never been unkind to either of them. I'm not sure what you mean?" This was great, but maybe too long. Get her to explain herself. Do not explain your actions to anyone ever. You are putting yourself in a position where they can judge you, which is a very weak frame. Best not to respond, otherwise redirect or misconstrue. Don't call attention to the fact you are not answering her questions. Do not communicate explicitly; everything is done covertly. You haven't been unkind, but you haven't … | /r/askTRP | 20/05/14 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Your response to this text message?Wouldn't you insure you got the sex and then slowly get away from this. Keeping frame is more important. You can't get sex by breaking frame and then regaining ground. That's completely backwards. And do you think that "Yes mistress, let me rub your feet and would you like me to wipe your arse as well?" translates to being dominant? Dominance comes first. Responding to her unreasonable demands by supplicating is the opposite. When you bargain for sex you are yelling loud and clear "you have hand… | /r/askTRP | 19/05/14 05:13 PM |
| 3 | first date says "you're not getting lucky tonight"The principle behind the freezeout is the same. The attitude conveyed is, oh we're not doing this? ok, I'll just occupy myself with other things. If the guy comes across as upset it will definitely fail. | /r/askTRP | 19/05/14 04:49 PM |
| 22 | first date says "you're not getting lucky tonight""You're not getting lucky tonight" = "I am thinking about having sex with you" My go-to response to this is just to say "luck has nothing to do with it" Assume the sale. Look up Last Minute Resistance (LMR). There are plenty of tactics you could have used to convince her to change her mind. Pacing - you be the one to say "We shouldn't be doing this, it feels so good..." Freeze out - If she rejects, go check your email or do something else that ignores her I've also gotten this in the case of a g… | /r/askTRP | 19/05/14 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Your response to this text message?Agree with what you said, but I think bargaining for sex is a special case where you just want to stop that behavior from happening. She wants OP to be a little slave boy and does not find him desirable. Red Flag IMO. Possible responses: Ignore (it's just beta bait) Tits or GTFO Has that ever actually worked? | /r/askTRP | 19/05/14 08:25 AM |
| 1 | My date possibly has me pegged as a provider. What's the best way to make it clear that I'm not going to be?Eh this isn't too bad.. Really depends on tonality.. You could do much worse: Please go out with me. Will do you do me the honor of accompanying me on a date? If I asked you out, would you say yes? anti-dump is all about filtering for girls who are really into you.. Not sure that's the most important consideration here. | /r/trpGAME | 17/05/14 05:35 PM |
| 3 | Logistics - "Can we meet closer to my place?" My sticking pointYeah, I will be following this advice. With the most recent girl, I did manage a turnaround. She made a joke about needing a passport to visit me. I texted "You sound committed to following the rules. Where is your sense of adventure?" She apologized, etc... I'll do "central" as you said. | /r/trpGAME | 16/05/14 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Are the chicks in my area frigid, or do I need to up my game?Humour game only works if it is accompanied by cockiness. Make intentions clear and apply kino to get past LJBF trap. Serious game might work if you can also be mysterious. Keep her guessing to build anticipation. If you are just serious and factual then yeah there is no sexual vibe. Arrogant needs more humour. | /r/askTRP | 13/05/14 08:18 PM |
| 3 | Finance Finds Out About GFs Past ThreesomeEh, there was nothing she could have done in that situation.. The disrespect happened many months earlier and it just hadn't come out until the party. Brilliant revenge/strategem on the part of the girl who called her out. I agree that you can't let the disrespect go and the engagament is definitely off. But I can think of several different ways to handle it. Understatement plays to your strengths "Oh, I didn't realize you were that type of girl. We'll have to reconsider our relationship." Suita… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/14 05:10 PM |
| 5 | Finance Finds Out About GFs Past ThreesomeHamster still obeys evolutionary agenda. I can guarantee that most beta guys have their own hamster which will kick in if she were to confess her true slutty past. They will have their madona-whore complex and think "If she does this with me, what about all the other guys she's done this with." And it's true, you might fuck a slut but you would never marry one. It is absolutely in her interest to hide her slutty past. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/14 04:55 PM |
| 1 | INTJs - Conversations and GameThere are instances where it will hurt you.. You will trip yourself up. I had this happen once when I met a girl who seemed really into me. She would giggle at almost everything I said. Really easy to talk to and so I invited her out. She showed up and we had maybe 40 minutes before she said she had to go and was really busy, etc.. BTW this is why I now avoid lawyers and doctors. So I thought, ok whatever I misread everything and she's not into me, NEXT. Two weekends later she turns up at an out… | /r/askTRP | 13/05/14 01:04 PM |
| 3 | INTJs - Conversations and GameINTJ/INTP here depending on the day. I used to have this same viewpoint, but actually what I realized made the conversation boring for me was lack of feedback. If the girl is laughing at my jokes I find it much easier to plow on. I know this is bad because it's seeking external validation.. It is what it is though. Now I actually prefer chatty types because I just call them out and make fun of the dumb shit they inevitably say. I do this in a teasing way that's fun for both of us. If they are sh… | /r/askTRP | 13/05/14 09:41 AM |
| -9 | When they just wont put out..Read this: http://therationalmale.com/2012/05/11/coquetry/ Followed by the Iron Rule #3 linked in the article. 9 weeks is excessive. Waiting this long likely means the girl has hang ups about sex. Trust me when I say that you have fallen into provider role. If this very same girl went on a backpacking trip, she would be 10x more likely to put out, because it "wouldn't matter" as long as no one found out. The sex will not be worth waiting for. Find a girl who can't keep her hands off you and has … | /r/askTRP | 09/05/14 03:54 PM |
| 1 | TRP Friendly literature?There is a whole subreddit devoted to this: /r/redpillbooks | /r/askTRP | 09/05/14 02:57 PM |
| 2 | Searching for a term that a subscriber posted about two months ago. Can you help me?Likely Coquette | /r/TheRedPill | 08/05/14 05:09 PM |
| 30 | Small FR - The value of walking awayNice post. Many RP principles at play: Holding frame Watch what women do, not what they say Person willing to walk away has the power in a relationship Show, don't tell Pre-selection AFBB | /r/TheRedPill | 07/05/14 05:16 PM |
| 1 | White night calls girl a cab whilst she is with my brother. What's the right way to handle that situation?"Thanks for the cab. Appreciate you looking out for us. I'm way too drunk to drive her home." It really does depend on logistics though. And sometimes no matter what, it will just fall through. As wingman, your main job is to occupy the guy, but he came out of the blue (heh). | /r/askTRP | 06/05/14 12:34 AM |
| 3 | The first thing Machiavelli would have done if he had a princeLaw 32: Play to people's fantasies. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/05/14 10:51 AM |
| 1 | I can't get rid of my feeling of letting others down.One thing that can help is realizing that you've got a false dichotomy. If you constantly pass up schoolwork (which should be your mission!) to be with your girlfriend, she will lose all respect for you. By standing up for yourself, you are actually winning on both fronts. | /r/askTRP | 03/05/14 01:26 PM |
| 99 | Questions you ask women to discretely find out their past.Yes, and let's not forget this is the exact same thing girls are doing when they encourage you to open up and share all your problems with them. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/05/14 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Women Think I Am a "Psycho" or "Scary"keeping my cool being emotionally detached You are coming across as too serious. Lighten the mood and joke around. If you are physically intimidating, this contrast will serve you very well. | /r/askTRP | 02/05/14 05:12 PM |
| 2 | What is the best way to kill sexual tension with a girl you don't plan on fucking?Do the opposite of this. Treat her like a child. Do not call her out on the sexual tension because then she will deny everything and tell her bf that you are hitting on her. Also, don't give ultimatums. That will force your friend to decide between his gf and you. Depending on how blue pill he is, you may not even stand a chance. It's also shitty to be pushing him into that kind of decision. Who cares if she is attracted to you? It will be your decision to escalate or not. When you don't, she wi… | /r/askTRP | 01/05/14 01:12 PM |
| 3 | AMOG Attempt - "You're a lucky guy!" - How to handle?Guidelines for dealing with AMOG tactics: Keep the response short Never be try-hard Engage him on a different level (do not adopt his frame) This is why 90% of the time, ignoring is the right response. You need to engage, so you don't just pretend you didn't hear. You make it clear you heard what he said and just found it completely irrelevant. The shoulder shrug is too passive and at the same time acknowledges you heard him; it will cue him to be more dominant and demand an answer. Even nodding… | /r/askTRP | 30/04/14 09:46 AM |
| 2 | How to overcome not being the dominant one in a social situation?There was a video posted here a few months back that shows how you can succeed by following the opposite strategy. Give him validation and if you do it correctly, the attention will switch back to you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI | /r/askTRP | 29/04/14 08:53 AM |
| 6 | Is Max Clifford's guilty verdict partially an accidental confirmation that many women use sex as a currency?There was that Asian guy who successfully sued his wife because their children turned out ugly. She was only attractive because of all the plastic surgery she had. He argued that it was a case of fraud; she didn't have the genetics to match her looks. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/04/14 01:02 AM |
| 2 | Unfashionable Fitness AdviceI meant protein shake. Do people actually drink juice after a workout? | /r/TheRedPill | 28/04/14 08:01 AM |
| 2 | Unfashionable Fitness AdviceThere's a shake bar at my new gym. The gym itself is great, several squat racks, benches, etc... But they thought I was kidding when I asked for whole milk. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/04/14 07:53 AM |
| 2 | Guy tells funny story of a shit test he got and thought giving his honest answer would be bestThe correct action is to keep frame. Your answer is good because: It addresses her feelings (not logical argument) - Change her mood not her mind It's indirect (subcommunication vs overt) However, your answer does not address the following: She is fishing for validation and you are rewarding this behavior when you should be punishing it! (unless you want more of this) It is a form of supplication: "You're the best honey" - you semi-avoided this trap by being indirect and framing yourself as the … | /r/TheRedPill | 28/04/14 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Can You Handle the Truth?chahal.comWell, doesn't matter because he was convicted in the court of public opinion and was fired as a result. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/04/14 11:36 PM |
| 9 | RadiumOne CEO speaks out: My Girlfriend Was Having Sex With Other People For Money And I Didn't Beat HerJust saw this posted on arstechnica and the comments are as you would expect. http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/04/radiumone-ceo-is-fired-after-domestic-violence-convictions/?comments=1 Glad someone else posted some alternative sources. I'm really curious why the video tape of the alleged abuse was ruled inadmissible. Edit: Inadmissible based on 4th amendment | /r/TheRedPill | 27/04/14 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Is it ever a good idea to face a shit test front on?Agree and Amplify | /r/askTRP | 27/04/14 06:54 PM |
| 2 | Match.com email -- Is this message Blue or RedBlue. Too cutesy with the rhyme but I understand you may need something unusual to get her to click on it. You are seeking rapport by finding commonalities which puts you in the role of the chaser. If you point out that you both lived in different countries as your opener that's the vibe that comes across. Same thing when you reuse her phrase "like minded people" Talk about your own shit instead of catering to her profile. Based on recent testing, if you want her to respond, just attach a pictur… | /r/askTRP | 27/04/14 05:32 PM |
| 5 | Is it ever a good idea to face a shit test front on?Yes, proving that you weren't out with another girl is losing frame and failing the shit test. You're explaining yourself meaning that she will now expect explanations in the future. You are implicitly saying that you are exclusive because "of course I don't see other girls." That was actually the point at which A&A would have been useful. "No I wasn't out with a girl. There was a whole group of them." If you want you can add "It was weird being the only guy." Now the girl is the one dreading OP… | /r/askTRP | 27/04/14 05:19 PM |
| 9 | Why do women take general statements as personal attacks? [Serious]It is solipsism, but not in the way you might think. It's not "Everything is about me." There is a second order of solipsism at play. These women cannot imagine making any controversial statement without the intent to further some agenda. They are putting themselves into your shoes and if you are making a statement contrary to group cohesion, you must be playing a deeper game for your own ends. By making some general comment, you must have some goal that you are trying to reach. In this case, yo… | /r/AlreadyRed | 27/04/14 11:22 AM |
| 6 | Misplaced expectations: "I'm angry that women are boring, not honorable, & don't have solitary pursuits."I remember going to a movie and sitting near a very attractive blonde who was obviously on a date with a much older guy. This girl went on for a good minute about all her hobbies. She liked to play polo and golf. She was a race car driver and a sailor. She had a passion for the violin only second to her ability to play the piano. The only thing missing was her fulfilling career and I guess she left out the part about having the world's hardest job. ;) I couldn't believe the guy wasn't calling he… | /r/AlreadyRed | 24/04/14 12:10 PM |
| 4 | Never check up to see if she is flaking.Roissy had a post on this recently. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/04/14 09:58 AM |
| 4 | In two sentences or less, whats the most true red pill thing you can say?Lift weights. Spin plates. Bonus: Alpha Fucks. Beta bucks. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/04/14 12:41 PM |
| 5 | Playing the Hand You're DealtGreat post. Optimizing your strengths so that you are outstanding in at least one area and matching your strategy for congruency with that strength hasn't been explained this well before. One point you didn't touch on is the mental aspect. Like you said, not to discourage anyone, but if you are predisposed to beta behaviors, is it really in your best interest to focus your energies on becoming more alpha instead of catering your game to the strategy that matches your genetic (not societally cond… | /r/AlreadyRed | 23/04/14 12:24 PM |
| 2 | She said yes to the date but didn't respond to the plans. Do I ask again?Communicating by text is just the trend these days. You are not being classy or showing balls or anything by calling. Sure, if you have a deep masculine voice, play to your strength. All things being equal, use text for minimum investment. The bigger problem is the attitude behind the messages. The frame was conceded before the game even started. Honestly, 0% chance of anything happening with this chick in the future. Breaking it down, we have a guy asking for the privilege of taking a girl on a… | /r/askTRP | 23/04/14 01:22 AM |
| 54 | New Bear Grylls survival show sees 12 men stranded on a desert island as an examination of modern masculinity. Feminists react exactly as expected.I think they should dedicate a separate show to see 12 women stranded on a desert island. That would be real equality. You know that with 10 guys and 2 women that the girls are not exactly going to be pulling their own weight. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/04/14 12:04 AM |
| 3 | What is happening when I give my girlfriend a gift and she gets really emotional?It's a LTR, so mixing in a bit of beta behavior is necessary. Beta is not inherently bad. You are showing her security/investment which shows you value her as a girlfriend, not just a plate. You have no idea why she became so emotional and it really could have been anything. Remember the old maxim: Watch what she does not what she says. Stay consistent, treat her every once in a while, but not so often that she comes to expect it. The advice on TRP seems to be geared away from LTR, so you have t… | /r/askTRP | 22/04/14 11:23 PM |
| 5 | I have no idea how to respond to this at all.Well, I'd just ignore. Why waste any time thinking about this horrible woman? Next time: "I have zero interest in talking you...." Cut her off. And say "Great. Me neither, get out." Alternatively, let her finish, pause for effect and then just respond with "gay." Let the words wash off and show her that they don't affect you. Or get creative: just let her follow you around while you look for pen and paper. Then draw a giant 6 and hold it up like a score card. Make it look like a penis. Slow clap… | /r/askTRP | 22/04/14 11:03 PM |
| 7 | Wives often divorce husbands who lose their jobs, says Govt. research.I think you need an early opt-out clause in case feelings change or something better comes along. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/04/14 06:06 PM |
| 22 | How might a woman test my boundaries and how can I defend boundaries without becoming confrontational?There are many types of tests. You will get compliance tests (hoops) where she tells you what to do, or under what circumstances she will do something for you. It could literally be something like "make me some coffee" or "hand me that book" or "do a little dance for me" You will get qualifying tests where she will tell you what she wants or what kind of man she is looking for. The way to fail this test is to agree with her or change your opinion to match hers. The opposite of this is what we me… | /r/askTRP | 20/04/14 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Girl asks to swap nudes and I go first. She sends kitten pic...She set up a hoop and you jumped through it. You'll know better next time. Your only options now are to either ignore and let her re-initiate or get her to qualify herself to you to regain the upper hand. If she is young, you can try something like "so that is the difference between a girl and a woman" She will shit test you so be ready for it. | /r/askTRP | 20/04/14 11:12 AM |
| 1 | "6 Things Men Will Literally Never Get" I honestly cringed when reading through this.Basically it all boils down to "Do the opposite of what we say" except my favorite #4 which is a hilarious parody of trickle truth. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/04/14 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Exit Strategy - Beta RadianceGreat post, though I do have a question about one of your tactics. The rest were all great, but for me inviting someone to one of my talks doesn't strike me as inherently needy. Did you sprinkle this with some self-deprecating humor? "If you don't come I don't think anyone will show up" etc... | /r/TheRedPill | 19/04/14 02:01 PM |
| 2 | Three Red Pill Principles: Please critique, comment, add, derive corollariesI think this belongs in /r/TheRedPill | /r/askTRP | 18/04/14 05:48 AM |
| 4 | Women really don't want to hear about your problemsIt's not just complaining that is the problem. For her the complaints are just an early warning sign that maybe you have some difficulties coming up and it's time for her to start exploring other options. Women will not stick by in times of difficulty. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/14 10:45 PM |
| 3 | She fucked a guy that treated her like shit, I feel like a chump because she gave to him what she's giving to me but I have to put in a lot more effort. Is this valid?AFBB. Here, Rollo wrote a great post about this particular topic: http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/ | /r/askTRP | 16/04/14 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Worse than a Cokehead | Beware the CoquetteThey had just met for the first time so I doubt he knew anything serious. Her English was poor enough that I doubt she could even understand getting called out. On the one hand, I do think that some guys are miscallibrated and will over-escalate.. Picture a girl smiling at a guy and him sticking his hand up her vag. But my point was that this particular type of girl, the coquette, will overreact and dramatise bullshit like this for attention. I wouldn't call him out on anything but I think if he… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/14 04:05 PM |
| 10 | Worse than a Cokehead | Beware the CoquetteNo, he was very confused afterward. Didn't know what he did wrong. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/14 03:56 PM |
| 25 | Worse than a Cokehead | Beware the CoquetteI learned to recognize these early on. It's actually quite easy once you know what to look for. Excessive touching, lots of drama and always talking about her feelings. Met another one recently at a birthday party. This girl was literally hanging off of every guy. She could not stop to chat with any guy without putting her hand on his chest or grabbing onto him. I added her on Facebook just for the laughs and sure enough I see a series of posts about how happy/sad/frustrated she happens to be at… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/14 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Cuckolding other guys' gfs/wives is fine. Sexual strategy is amoral. (Don't be a Bro Knight)Your argument against bromanticism or bro knighting has a lot of aspects worth discussing. I think people taking the opposing side have difficulty accepting your initial premise. You are getting a lot of hate for advocating adultery, but to me it's almost an irrelevant part of the discussion because I believe it's off topic to the point you were trying to make. I'm in 100% agreement with your position. Some posters are going as far as to argue that bro code is the bedrock of civilization. Well, … | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/14 12:59 AM |
| -1 | Cuckolding other guys' gfs/wives is fine. Sexual strategy is amoral. (Don't be a Bro Knight)I think you have it backwards. It's only in civilized society that this sort of behavior becomes advantageous again as a sexual strategy. When you live in a city of a million people, everyone is an interloper. How can you punish the outsider when you can't even recognize who your friends are? You may call it a defense against barbarism, but I think arguing that bro code is what makes for civilisation just identifies you as an idealist. I guess you can make the argument that adultery being back i… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/04/14 12:23 AM |
| 3 | Why did she say one thing and do another?Because feelings. | /r/askTRP | 15/04/14 10:49 PM |
| 3 | 527 Male students to have DNA taken in attempt to find one alleged rapist.What is the mood in the school? Are people out for blood or is there a sense or resignation to the inevitable? How is the administration framing this idea that every man will be DNA tested? Threats? Or is everyone being very co-operative? | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/14 07:16 AM |
| 4 | What's wrong with (almost) always paying?Women will categorise you based on whether you fit the provider role. If you fit the provider role: She will make you wait longer for sex Sex will become transactional She will have more expectations for how you should act The objective of not paying is to avoid being perceived as a provider (or worse, a chump who is not worthy of sex at all). Since you happily accept your provider role, there is no reason not to pay. | /r/askTRP | 14/04/14 11:34 PM |
| 7 | Cuckolding other guys' gfs/wives is fine. Sexual strategy is amoral. (Don't be a Bro Knight)I wasn't even aware that this is what bro-code was about. Really, the only rules for me are don't cockblock your mate or go after your mate's girl. I wonder how this type of altruistic behavior develops. Do white knights get tired of being passed up for sex and move on to having a "worthy" target in their omega brethren? I think bro knighting is more interesting than white knighting, because in the case of white knighting the underlying twisted logic is that this behavior may result in getting s… | /r/AlreadyRed | 14/04/14 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Does TRP love sluts or hate them?Sluts are like alcohol. Fine to indulge in small doses, but you will get into trouble if you make one a life-time habit. | /r/askTRP | 13/04/14 01:10 PM |
| 2 | RP Movies?Recent one that was excellent was Mud. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/04/14 09:57 PM |
| 1 | From r/relationships: Behold the glorious shitstorm that occurs when a woman asks for an honest physical assessment from a man and a man is dumb enough to give it to her.She tells me that there's something wrong in my brain for finding fat unattractive So what you're saying is she's fat and delusional | /r/TheRedPill | 12/04/14 09:50 PM |
| 1 | From r/relationships: Behold the glorious shitstorm that occurs when a woman asks for an honest physical assessment from a man and a man is dumb enough to give it to her.I thought it would have worked very well as a neg, if the girl herself actually thought of herself as a 9 or a 10. Probably not good in the context of seeing her naked for the first time though. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/04/14 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Rollo Tomassi AMAPretty sure there are just the 9. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/04/14 04:01 PM |
| 4 | Rollo Tomassi AMARollo, glad to see you here and thanks for all your blog posts which are a resource I keep turning to again and again. It's really the one place that has in-depth explanations of hypergamy, desire dynamics, plate theory and of course the infamous SMV graphic. Looking forward to the Kindle update you recently mentioned, and my question is about the Iron Rules. Can you give us a bit of background into how they were formulated? Any interesting stories that you can share? | /r/TheRedPill | 11/04/14 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Girlfriend travelling abroad for two weeks with her friendsThe destination will give you at least a clue to what her intentions are. If she is going to a party place with lots of clubs and her friends are dragging her out to go clubbing every night (or worse she is dragging them out) then that is not ideal. | /r/askTRP | 11/04/14 03:59 AM |
| 2 | Better At Approaching Womenif I don't build a friendship first It'l never work. Do the opposite of that. The reason why "Are you single?" is bad isn't because it's too assertive. It's not. The only upside is that your intentions are clear from the outset. The downsides are: The girl will be caught off guard. She will say no EVEN IF SHE IS SINGLE just to get some space. It's the easiest answer so that is what she will go with. Unless you are stylish and tall and muscular and all your bodylanguage is perfect AND you have so… | /r/askTRP | 11/04/14 03:46 AM |
| 6 | Shit test bootcampHaving the best response is not important, just holding your frame. Even if your response only marginally makes sense, it is better than stalling out trying to think of something perfect. I don't sleep with guys on the 1st 2nd or 3rd date. Good thing we aren't dating then (reframe yourself into non-provider role) Me neither (wait for the hook, and if she takes you seriously)... I like girls. Oh you read The Rules. How cute. Note that sometimes you can accept her rules to come out ahead but this … | /r/TheRedPill | 09/04/14 04:35 PM |
| 3 | Why 'feminism' poisons EVERYTHING: #cancelcolbertAh, much more details in the video. She lives with her mom. Also, I find the fact that she has a "therapy" animal incredibly amusing. I wonder if it's a hamster. Overall, I think she is getting far too much attention even from the people demolishing her demonstrably insipid arguments. Why does anyone even ask her to explain anything? Once the person you are debating demonstrates their inability to reason, it is time to disengage and just throw out quips and one liners - aka amused mastery. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/04/14 04:22 PM |
| 1 | New Veet Ads Shame Women by Claiming Having Body Hair Makes Them DudesCross linking is disabled, but just search this sub for "PowerTalk" | /r/TheRedPill | 09/04/14 08:39 AM |
| 3 | New Veet Ads Shame Women by Claiming Having Body Hair Makes Them DudesThe best part of the article: In another spot, a woman tries to hail a taxi but finds out that in less than 24 hours her armpit hair has gone from nonexistent to a veritable follicle jungle, demonstrating both an unnecessary haterism towards women’s choices about body hair and a warped understanding of how fast it takes said hair to actually grow. [emphasis mine] This ties in neatly with spergs/losers discussion we had a while back. Completely flawed understanding of subtext. The writer is just … | /r/TheRedPill | 08/04/14 07:09 PM |
| 16 | "I Would Never Have dated You When I Was 25"My counter to this and used this on an ex who was being too bitchy: "Knowing what I know now, I should/would have broken up with you a lot earlier." Amused mastery is the proper tone. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/04/14 12:48 PM |
| 6 | "I Would Never Have dated You When I Was 25"It's a great series but I think he mentioned an upcoming part 4. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/04/14 12:44 PM |
| 2 | Military & PTSD: Red Pill perspective on the matterIts scares the shit out of women if we speak to them the same way we do with equal or higher ranks Can you clarify what you mean by this? | /r/TheRedPill | 07/04/14 01:51 PM |
| 2 | SJWs foist inventor of JavaScript out of CEO position over 6 year old personal donationI doubt that Mozilla was really impacted by the fact that one website didn't work with their browser. Think back to the days when many websites only worked on Netscape or Explorer. Also think how easy they could have patched it by just sending a different user agent string to OKCupid. This has precedent when it comes to interoperability. Mozilla has simply grown to the stage where public perception matters. We don't know what went on behind the scenes, but imagine if Google turned off the advert… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/04/14 10:06 AM |
| 2 | SJWs foist inventor of JavaScript out of CEO position over 6 year old personal donationNo such thing. Even if you don't have a boss or shareholders, you're still beholden to your customers. Also, depending on the country you're in, being self-employed can mean massive bureaucracy. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/04/14 04:54 PM |
| 13 | Guy's GF meets a rich guy. Guy's GF plans on going to dinner with said guy. Dinner gets canceled and girlfriend ends up going to a hotel with rich guy at 10:00 PM so that they can "chat" (or "mentor" as the title says). GF spends 4 hours (over alcohol) at hotel "chatting" with said guy.Yes, he just wanted to get to know her in the biblical sense. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/04/14 04:49 PM |
| 2 | SJWs foist inventor of JavaScript out of CEO position over 6 year old personal donationHe was required by law to identify his employer as part of the contribution. I'm sure he would have preferred to stay anonymous. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/04/14 10:19 AM |
| 5 | SJWs foist inventor of JavaScript out of CEO position over 6 year old personal donationNot only that, he didn't go out of his way to push his views on anyone. He was required by law to identify his employer as part of the contribution and that's how this whole thing blew up. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/04/14 10:18 AM |
| 16 | Great example of frame control (x-post from /r/videos)I think you mean how can she slap? | /r/TheRedPill | 03/04/14 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Need Help!Well, a better title would have served you well, but there was an IamA in TRP a while back: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1iywaq/i_am_helen_smith_forensic_psychologist_and_author/ | /r/askTRP | 02/04/14 04:46 PM |
| 8 | First date since discovering TRP...Did not go well, I think I understand why, would like some confirmation.Hey, you're doing really well and with practice you will learn how to respond to these tests. I think your biggest breakthrough will come when you start dating more than one woman concurrently (spinning plates). If you were in a situation where you had three girls to call up and one of them refused to meet for drinks in the evening, what would you do? You wouldn't schedule a lunch, that's for sure! Once you agree to her terms, she knows that you don't have any other options. Your analysis is spo… | /r/askTRP | 02/04/14 04:34 PM |
| 1 | Hooker hides Rolex in her cooch and is pissed when cops find out.Brings a whole new meaning to pussypass. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/04/14 03:19 PM |
| 1 | How much is too much?I agree that TRP is an ideology. The traits you've described are more akin to cults, which I think TRP falls far short of. There is actually a flip-side to the question. Constantly questioning your beliefs will never allow you to develop a solid frame. You start seeing a new girl and search for evidence that she is different from all the rest. Maybe you've found your unicorn? You start seeing uniqueness everywhere and the exception becomes the rule. The ideas become muddled as you come up with c… | /r/AlreadyRed | 02/04/14 12:32 AM |
| 5 | How to deal with her Ex with higher Status & Money you?Based on your description this is purely an issue of inner game. I think there are two components. The money issue is separate from the fact that you perceive this guy as high status. I've pulled a girl from a millionaire and it never entered my mind to be worried about his wealth. He started chasing her and she dumped him to be with me. This was pre-RP, now I would see this whole situation as a red flag, but you can imagine that if the your girl's ex was rich but beta then all his money doesn't… | /r/askTRP | 01/04/14 10:25 PM |
| 6 | No Pants No ProblemThis is just some idiot apropriating a popular meme to highlight their BS political agenda. As far as I'm aware the origin of this is Improv Everywhere's No Pants subway ride which started back in 2002. They probably got the idea from somewhere else, but they popularized it. It was always meant to be a prank, that's it, no message. In fact the whole point was to act like everything is normal, not educate people when they ask why you aren't wearing pants. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/04/14 02:19 PM |
| 3 | Understanding Your Market, Understanding Alpha/Beta and Attraction (AKA Why red pill advice might be completely useless)Very interesting way of looking at it. SMV will fluctate based on prevailing conditions. That is the very definition of a market. I think we can simplify if the guy can give us an accurate read on what the girl thinks her relative SMV is. Three methods of indirection may not seem simple, but it's exactly the kind of reasoning humans do intuitively. Talking about looking at the market implies that you have to have a read on what the prevailing conditions are as you say: You need to analyze and un… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/04/14 12:39 AM |
| 5 | Ex wants to be friends. I need her out of my life in order to get over her. But do I look weak by cutting her off?I need her out of my life You answered your own question before you even finished typing the title. Who is it exactly that you don't want to look weak toward? she said not to miss her cause I'm only hurting myself This line makes it clear that she doesn't care about you. She wants attention/validation. Cut her off completely. Block all her numbers/email/facebook. You don't even want a peep of "Why aren't you talking to me? How can you be so immature?" (see shaming tactics in the side bar) | /r/askTRP | 01/04/14 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Red Pill AxiomsI can see a lot of cross-over with both seduction and self-improvement. Here is my contribution off the top of my head: Hypergamy doesn't care. (RM) You cannot negotiate desire. (RM) Punish Immediately, Reward Intermittently Change her mood, not her mind Sex comes before the relationship Ultimatums are a last resort that showcase a lack of power | /r/AlreadyRed | 31/03/14 11:21 PM |
| 3 | What would you do? What does the brocode say?I think you gave really good advice, but why do you think there is no bro-code? My rule is don't fuck your mate's girl. Not sure if I'm missing something or if bro-code has some connotations I'm not aware of. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/14 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Trigger Warnings Trigger MeI think it's more about turning off the constant stream of validation. Don't show me these bad things which upset me. Bombard me with meaningless feel-good images. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/14 11:20 PM |
| 1 | I don't know how to flirt5) At high points, you must escalate, lead, or leave. This is great. So obvious but haven't seen it expressed in this way. | /r/askTRP | 29/03/14 06:12 PM |
| 13 | Kicked a girl out of my bed tonightI've definitely heard the "I can leave if you want me to" line before. I believe she's seeking comfort. I've handled this in the past by going on the offensive: "I don't like it when people play games." You need to redirect rather than answering logically. She found it fine to fuck some random dude that also goes to school with us on a particular night, but me, being a nice guy that had been talking to her for a bit and entertaining her all night, had not EARNED the right to fuck her. "I'm not t… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/03/14 11:27 AM |
| 3 | More beta/comfort ?The skittles are for me. It's the thought that counts. | /r/askTRP | 28/03/14 04:31 AM |
| 3 | Bestof hits front page, confirms creepiness is based on attractiveness, throws in formula for it as well.I think the problem is that some guys can't distinguish a real "no" from a "not right now." By persisting you are giving the woman the opportunity to exercise her perogative. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/03/14 01:27 AM |
| 2 | Respond or Ignore?I'll just post some truth and let you sort it out. If you read the sidebar, you will know where each piece applies. Don't shit where you eat. Always be escalating. Wait 15 minutes for anyone and 20 minutes for no one. You cannot negotiate desire. NEXT. | /r/askTRP | 28/03/14 01:22 AM |
| 16 | Trigger Warnings Trigger MeTrigger warnings in that context say to me "I can't handle reality." Please shield me, because I am so weak. Protect me because I am a woman and deserving of your protection. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/03/14 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Next em?Cut all contact with both. That shit is unhealthy. | /r/askTRP | 27/03/14 02:13 PM |
| 0 | 2 1/2 months into relationship, how/can I get back on top?You don't want to be giving logical advice. That's not the way forward. This is a simple case of one-itis, neediness and co-dependency. Recovery is 10x harder than finding a new girl. Your best bet is to start hanging out with new girls and then you win either way. Even if it doesn't go anywhere, you will see other options are out there, and your gf will appreciate you more. Set boundaries for yourself. Here's a challenge: Only see her once a week until you are back in control (of yourself!). If… | /r/askTRP | 27/03/14 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Shat where I ateThere was a CH article about how to handle this. If you are confronted and a girl tells you what she heard, just smirk and say "something like that." You want to indicate there is more to the story without sounding defensive. | /r/askTRP | 27/03/14 09:44 AM |
| 2 | Girl was hitting on me infront of my GF, GF is pissed, correct response?This kind of situation is actually a very good test of your frame. At the top end you will have the guys who can flirt back openly, joke about having a threesome, etc... Don't do this unless you are calibrated. It will backfire if you try to fake it. Next best is to diffuse: Yes, girls flirt with me all the time, doesn't mean anything. What? You want me to destroy their dreams? I can't do that. Next best is to ignore. Don't let her jealousy dictate your behaviour. That would definitely be droppi… | /r/askTRP | 27/03/14 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Beware of the deadly "you seem so mysterious" shit testNope. Seems pretty obvious to me. I'd just go with the standby: "Cool." But "Yeah." or "I know." work equally well. Once you've internalized you should never feel the urge to explain yourself. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/03/14 07:40 PM |
| 2 | Is it really true?I think it means liking us for some intrinsic qualities we have rather than ones we demonstrate. So I think it's living in a fantasy land where women can read our thoughts. Or it means that women shouldn't have standards. Sounds pretty blue pill to me.* *understatement_of_the_year | /r/TheRedPill | 25/03/14 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Women's deep insecurities that men forget about.Is he the one? We all know about The Wall, so keep in mind how urgent this question becomes as a woman tries to lock down a provider. Can also be used in context of a Disney Prince Charming delusion. Am I feminine enough? Girls who go into male-oriented fields will struggle with this one. What does he mean when he says "X"? Girls will obsess and overanalyze every little tidbit that you drop and turn it into what it says about her. | /r/AlreadyRed | 25/03/14 07:42 PM |
| 0 | Women's deep insecurities that men forget about.I thought you left it out because it's not one that men forget about, since women bring it up again and again. | /r/AlreadyRed | 25/03/14 07:36 PM |
| 2 | Women "mistreated" in last relationship; gets "Nice Guy" Beta Boyfriend to move across the pond with her. Admits she got it on with two guys while they were apart; plot twist one is their new Alpha roommate...Agreed 100%. My last LTR ended because she had to move back to her home country (visa issues). She suggested I come back with her. At the time I'd been travelling for 6 months, had no permanent base, and honestly it would have made no difference to my long term goals where I lived. I still had to break it off to even avoid the appearance of compromise. There was no way that moving to a new country where I was dependent on her and didn't speak the language could have in any way turned out well. I… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/03/14 01:20 PM |
| 4 | Girl said blatantly that if I wanted to date her I had to pay for everything. Otherwise we are through.It's true that she waived some red flags and you rightly rejected her. However, do you think she treats all men this way? She saw you as a meal ticket and you were the one chasing her. Everyone commenting here so far is only seeing the surface meaning and making the best of a bad situation. Ideally, you don't want to be seen as the provider, or go on "dates." Then none of this would have come up, and you would have had a plate on your terms. | /r/askTRP | 24/03/14 11:28 AM |
| 8 | Girl said blatantly that if I wanted to date her I had to pay for everything. Otherwise we are through.We had a couple of these recently in AskTRP. This is exactly why "dating" is a frame which it is in your best interest to avoid. It comes with all those expectations and tropes - dinner & movie, man pays, 3 dates before sex (if she follows The Rules). Your best bet is a reframe. Imply that only prostitutes trade money for sexual availability. If she wants to be with you "It has to be something real." | /r/askTRP | 24/03/14 11:22 AM |
| 3 | "All sex is rape"Even rape is prostitution. The man is taking a risk in order to meet his biological imperative. He's selling his soul for sex. He's really the victim if you think about it. Gonna have to use that line next time I want to give a feminist a heart attack. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/03/14 07:10 PM |
| 3 | How do i respond?Make it clear that you are not dating. Therefore her rule doesn't apply. | /r/askTRP | 22/03/14 11:22 PM |
| 6 | Is there a "gentle" introduction to the concepts?That was almost exactly the purpose behind The Rational Male book. I don't know if I'd call it gentle, but at least it fits the situation. | /r/AlreadyRed | 22/03/14 03:56 PM |
| 3 | I don't feel pressure. I apply it.If your goal is to have a LTR, then you should date as many women as possible and filter them aggressively. Always be escalating. Go for sex as fast as reasonably possible and keep seeing the girl as long as there is forward progress. NEVER bring up the fact that you are looking for something special unless you can frame it in such a way that shows you're rejecting girls on a regular basis and she is "still in contention." Basically, don't give your power away. Let the girl be the one to push fo… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/03/14 11:22 AM |
| 1 | Girlfriend told her gossiping parent about my family's situation, everybody knows now.Sometimes I think the real reason people go to church is for the gossip. It was going to get out regardless. People don't think ahead and gossip girls get a thrill from telling other people's secrets. Did you make it clear to your gf ahead of time that this was nobody else's business? It sounds obvious, but trust me, at the time she blabbed her hamster is going to be spinning "Well, nobody said I shouldn't talk about this." You need to establish that boundary. Family shit stays in the family. If… | /r/askTRP | 21/03/14 04:35 PM |
| 1 | My wife won't follow my lead, not really sure where I'm fucking up.I could probably work out some deal with her to make herself into a 10 rather than figuring out a career. Definitely read rational male so that you are disabused of the notion that this might work. Desire cannot be negotiated. | /r/askTRP | 21/03/14 10:32 AM |
| 2 | A TRP story found on craiglist.Yeah, the first paragraph was for the given situation. I was saying it was already clear before they sat down that she was looking for a handout. The rest of it was just personal experience in the case of no warning signs. Wasn't clear if /u/abcd_z was asking for how to escalate for the bill in this particular situation or in general. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/03/14 10:13 AM |
| 4 | An easy way past the "I have a boyfriend" lineYep, it's actually a good sign because she is not just throwing that in casually no matter what. It's almost a form of PowerTalk. She sees you as a man pursuing her so you are not just some "friend". | /r/TheRedPill | 21/03/14 05:53 AM |
| 13 | An easy way past the "I have a boyfriend" lineFirstly, girls who blurt out that they have a boyfriend are lying a good 1/2 the time. It's almost an automatic response to some strange guy engaging her in conversation. Secondly, it's not your job to police her. If she doesn't want to sleep with you, she won't, and no amount of game will force her to against her wishes. Unless you are friends with her bore friend you don't owe the guy anything. I'd say that is typical TRP attitude with some people extending that to married girls or not. You ar… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/03/14 05:49 AM |
| -4 | An easy way past the "I have a boyfriend" lineHeh, I wish upvotes and down votes were weighted by how long a person has been a subscriber. You are 100% on point and it's further clear that the people arguing with you are very new. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/03/14 05:38 AM |
| 0 | A TRP story found on craiglist.Assuming the story is as presented, there were many warning signs. She picked an expensive restaurant contrary to the plan. If she wasn't looking for a free meal, she would have eaten before the movie. To answer your question, I have been in this situation with no warning signs, and I ratcheted up when the bill arrived. Best is to handle it implicitly. Don't reach for your wallet until she does. A classy girl will ask if you want to split the bill at this point. When the waiter comes around you … | /r/TheRedPill | 21/03/14 05:14 AM |
| 2 | Swallowed Red Pill, Seen The Truth In Current LTR; How Soon To Act?I can tell you exactly how long she would wait if the situation was reversed. Exactly as long as it would take her to set up a new branch to swing to. "I don't see a future for us together long term. I'm going to take some time apart to think about what I want." I wouldn't throw it in her face that I was planning to see other women right away. That has too much potential to backfire given your intermixed social circles. Most importantly, it's about YOU, not HER. You are also presenting it as a d… | /r/askTRP | 19/03/14 11:43 PM |
| 3 | I need some adviceStart seeing other girls. It's very unlikely she's actually doing anything with him. He sounds like a beta orbiter - best friends forever. However, LDRs are a horrible idea especially for someone as young as both of you are. Also a bit of girlcode here - "Bad with relationships" means "I neglect and/or cheat on my partner" This is a red flag. Definitely start seeing other girls. | /r/askTRP | 19/03/14 04:46 PM |
| 2 | PowergameSure, if you read the original series of articles, there is a section about status and the author says the best way to understand it is in terms of improv theatre. This particular book's premise is that all the interesting bits of improvisational theatre are based on changes in status. There are dozens of examples of how people elevate and decrease their status through conversation and situations. There are some great distinctions made between getting your agenda accomplished vs status. So for e… | /r/AlreadyRed | 19/03/14 01:38 PM |
| 30 | 5 Ugly Realities of Beautiful Japanese GirlsNot really a defect per se, but one huge cultural quirk is their aversion to any sort of public display. The girl will follow your lead if you do it right, but in general kiss closing in the street etc will be much more difficult. I was out with one girl in the middle of the night in a park near the castle in Kumamoto, no one within sight and there was still a lot of shy resistance. It was clear from the body language that she wanted to but it was just so ingrained that she can't do anything in … | /r/TheRedPill | 19/03/14 12:01 PM |
| 2 | Serious RP Theory questionIt's tricky because by being a nice guy you are signalling that you are a beta. The reason jerks/assholes get the girls is NOT because they are jerks/assholes but because they are signalling alpha traits. There is a fine line you can walk, so it is possible IF you can be "nice" whatever that means to you without: any hint of supplication any hint of desperation any hint that you are treating her special | /r/TheRedPill | 19/03/14 11:45 AM |
| 3 | The "You're such a Nice Guy" shit test.I tend to hang back, understand the social dynamics at play, sparingly use my wit to build a presence and then finally, just be myself Nope, sorry that's pretty beta. Maybe if you can pull off dark mysterious stranger archetype you can get away with this. Otherwise you are better off being bold. She says, "Oh McDoogleSnatch, you're such a nice guy!" This says more about her than anything about you. She is not used to this type of behaviour. You should just translate this in your head to "Oh, McD… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/03/14 09:31 PM |
| 29 | "You Make Me Feel Safe"I was always mystified by this phrase from girls/women for a long time That's because your instincts were correct; this phrase doesn't actually mean anything. The rest of your post is 100% true, but unconnected to what she is saying. This is a good thing to hear because it means she considers you a protector, i.e. a man. However, it's also a way to frame you into the provider role. Remember that anything a woman says (especially an expression of emotion!) cannot be used analytically as a stateme… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/03/14 08:20 PM |
| 10 | Do mood swings justify a break up?I'm honestly curious what you are hoping for with this girl: dated for three months no sex "Didn't imagine this relationship going that far" That is enough to tell me that you should have nexted her 2 and a half months ago and definitely before you got into a relationship. Even her family doesn't want to deal with her. How many more red flags do you need? | /r/askTRP | 18/03/14 09:55 AM |
| 1 | PowergameSpecifically for Powertalk, I would recommend: Reframing by Richard Bandler and John Grinder Impro by Keith Johnstone | /r/AlreadyRed | 18/03/14 08:57 AM |
| 5 | PowergameI think someone already commented that TRP is Straight talk about Power talk. OP is not engaging in powertalk. Bargaining, openly negotiating, and analysing powertalk are not powertalk. I do think that analysing Powertalk is useful, but let's not fool ourselves. My understanding of powertalk is that it's a mix of subcommunication and reframing. Subcommunication gives the layering and deniability. Reframing is revealing information or putting it in a new light with the added intention of modifyin… | /r/AlreadyRed | 18/03/14 08:54 AM |
| 2 | First situation like this, did I practice TRP or TBP?OK, you did the perfect set of moves if your goal is to have a relationship with this girl. But based on what she told you, she is not relationship material. What's your end game? Honestly, she is not even plate material. Just indulge her hobby and move on. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/03/14 01:27 AM |
| 11 | I think I fucked up with one of my plates, should I drop?I think it's better as "No, I feel like sex, I need someone I can depend on." | /r/TheRedPill | 15/03/14 12:11 PM |
| 3 | I'm beginning to become jaded withconversationsSomeone posted this a few weeks back and it's relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-a1jXgAsQI It's a long video (60 minutes) but lots of great advice. The relevant portion happens near the beginning. The idea is you actually stop and give them this look that says "hey, now it's your turn to contribute" TLDR: People suck at conversation. SHAME THEM into participating. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/03/14 11:24 PM |
| 2 | On NextingYes, but there is like a 10% chance that she is DTF, with 9/10 of that being a failed branch swing. One of your other questions was: I would ask if you think her saying she still wants to work shit out makes a difference, since she did. This makes zero difference. Watch her actions instead of listening to her words. Girls will say shit you want to hear just to avoid conflict. If she comes out on Saturday you're still good, but I'm just saying it's a VERY slim chance. | /r/askTRP | 14/03/14 08:29 PM |
| 2 | The cheek treatment at the end of a good first dateYour advice is good, not sure why you are getting down voted. But I would go with a light tease for this particular girl (who hasn't dated in a while) - "Awww, you're shy, that's so cute." Banter for a bit before going in again. | /r/askTRP | 14/03/14 05:01 PM |
| 4 | The cheek treatment at the end of a good first dateOk, here's some girl code: Easy to talk to means there is no sexual tension. This is BAD. You don't want easy, good conversation. You want sexually charged flirting and innuendo. You are in the best position to judge the appropriate amount of kino, but remember you can escalate verbally as well. There is a PUA concept here that you will find useful called SOI (Statement of Intent). It's crucial that the girl is thinking of you in a sexual context as early as possible. If you leave it too late th… | /r/askTRP | 14/03/14 04:59 PM |
| 1 | I don't want to go to university anymore [need advice]I hope you have a better plan than to just quit. If you decide to stay on, I have a few recommendations: Concentrate on getting work placements related to your field. This is where you will learn the most. Choose electives that are actually practical or interesting, outside of your field. Languages was good and so was an introduction to economics that I took, but that may have just been due to a really good professor. Put the most effort into courses like Data Structures and Algorithms. I guaran… | /r/askTRP | 14/03/14 01:43 PM |
| 1 | On vacation denied sex from ltr. Hard next ?Interested to hear what happened after you have a week of perspective and some emotional distance. | /r/askTRP | 14/03/14 11:45 AM |
| 2 | On NextingYes, she got caught up in the emotion. She needed that validation that you brought her. Attraction is very fickle, and girls especially will stay in a relationship long after they've mentally checked out. You just saw this play out on a much shorter time scale. All that was needed was for some other guy to show interest in her to trigger her instinct to swing branches. Keep in mind a girl will string you along and show signs of reconciliation for a few reasons: She wants to avoid conflict Her at… | /r/askTRP | 14/03/14 11:35 AM |
| 2 | On NextingThere is no reason to push for monogamy. Once a girl is attracted, she will be the one pushing for it. If she is not, then she is not a good candidate anyway. Definitely you don't want to start that conversation or get that explicit. You are still negotiating desire. The best way to maintain attraction is to show (don't tell!) the girl that you have other options. This is why spinning plates is such useful advice. You really do have an abundance mindset and are not dependent on any one girl. She… | /r/askTRP | 14/03/14 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Fat ass is mad that her liberating photo shoot was used as a "Before" pic for a diet ad.Facebook is not the Internet. Instead, I'd invite you to read the user agreement of any reputable stock photo company, which is where reputable companies get images that they don't create themselves. Also, depending on the country there are many other factors such as the model release I mentioned above. Canada has something called moral rights - the author of the work can prevent their work from being displayed out of context. It is extremely unlikely that Facebook sub-licensed the photo to the … | /r/TheRedPill | 14/03/14 11:22 AM |
| 24 | On NextingI am looking for an LTR and we discuss this with positive reciprocation on both our parts. We have both agreed on wanting sex on a daily basis. There. I've identified exactly where you went wrong. You don't need to have a logical discussion about "where the relationship is going" during the first week. You definitely do not set a schedule for when you will have sex. You essentially tried to negotiate desire from a position of weakness and now she is not attracted to you. The position of weakness… | /r/askTRP | 13/03/14 09:12 PM |
| 2 | Fat ass is mad that her liberating photo shoot was used as a "Before" pic for a diet ad.No it's not. Copyright is automatic. Also, the issue here is licensing. In terms of photos they would need permission from both the photographer and the people in it. So unless she signed a model release form, she definitely has a case. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/03/14 08:28 PM |
| 2 | LTR Game Part 6: Egalitarianism and OwnershipReally well-written and insightful write up. I'd be interested in a follow up piece for maintaining congruency/frame across all aspects of the relationship. My last LTR had been brainwashed on the point of equality so maintaining frame would quite often backfire. I maintained frame but it would often lead to drama and punishments/freezeouts. Some examples: I would often slap her on the ass, during sex or just in general. She eventually took that as an ok to hit me back. Had to set her straight r… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/03/14 04:44 PM |
| 1 | TRP and Fashion.Dressing well is very important and will only help you. As for being too feminine, don't fall into the trap of thinking that the way to a girl's panties is through a common interest. Other than that, pursue your interests. Fashion is only second to lifting when it comes to passive game. | /r/askTRP | 12/03/14 11:01 PM |
| 3 | Friend had a fallout with his LTR. Would like TRP opinionsMassive and unrecoverable sign of disrespect for someone in a LTR. Optimal response is "You can't stay here, get the fuck out." His mistake wasn't lashing out against her, but actually putting up with her bullshit. She ditched him (1) to spend time with another guy (2) alone (3) and got drunk with him (4). Nope, that's way past three strikes, she doesn't even get a warning. I think the principle at play is "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" | /r/askTRP | 12/03/14 09:29 PM |
| 1 | "Logical fallacies are man-centric mumbo jumbo" - couldn't make this stuff up if I tried.You're right, it's almost a type of shit test. I think you would still need plausible deniability in case someone was listening in or recording. That way you are not tied down to anything and you can always claim any problems on a miscommunication. However, once a person has been identified as loser/clueless, there's no reason to use Powertalk. Also, when something becomes a meme like "whoever asks, pays" you can't necessarily identify the type of speaker. The clueless will repeat it based on au… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/03/14 09:05 PM |
| 3 | "Logical fallacies are man-centric mumbo jumbo" - couldn't make this stuff up if I tried.Powertalk again. Incorrect. Powertalk is used between sociopaths. At least one side of this exchange is clueless. You are greatly overestimating the thought process of women. Sure some of them can be very devious and intelligent, but for the most part they will start with a conclusion and then backwards rationalise whatever chain of "logic" pops into their head. Never try to convince an arguing woman of anything using reason. 100% agree with this. She already knows. She already understands the l… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/03/14 11:26 AM |
| 2 | Examples of shit tests and holding your frame?Agreed that there is some nuance. At the other end of the spectrum, I would just next a violent girl rather than trying to reform her or getting her to take a time out. | /r/askTRP | 10/03/14 04:10 PM |
| 8 | Examples of shit tests and holding your frame?If you keep lurking you will see at least two examples a day. Most recently in another thread: Girl told me she only dates tall guys. I'm 6'0, what is considered tall these days? He completely bought into her qualification frame. He is accepting what she said at face value and is questioning his worth. That is exactly what the shit test is designed to do. The benefits for the woman are that she gets a genuinely confident man instead of a pretender who "doesn't get it" | /r/askTRP | 10/03/14 11:38 AM |
| 7 | What is considered tall these daysgirl rejected me saying: "I only date tall guys" And you believed her? | /r/TheRedPill | 09/03/14 07:54 PM |
| 14 | On vacation denied sex from ltr. Hard next ?Hold your frame. Enjoy your holiday. Get more context. You have no idea why she's acting the way she is. Sounds out of character since you are so surprised. Any other warning signs? Don't react emotionally to her. Don't apologise or ask her what's wrong. Don't tell her you are there for her or will support her. Just withdraw validation and attention until she (potentially blows up and) tells you. If she clams up and still doesn't say anything by the end of the holiday, you can force a confrontat… | /r/askTRP | 09/03/14 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Fighting vs Lifting.You wouldn't outright say either, and the muscle mass that comes from lifting means you are pre-selected before you even open your mouth. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/03/14 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Advice on going to a chick's concertYou are fooling yourself if you think she is going to be your plate. She is not your plate, she is your time ho. The situation does not look recoverable. Find a new girl, and only then think about whether you should bring her to this concert. Do not go alone, she will be feeding off validation and unless you can really shine in that context, you will be forever cast as an orbiter. | /r/askTRP | 08/03/14 01:38 PM |
| 1 | The joy of online dating...You bought into her frame. Better would have been: "Saturday not good either huh" Or Agree and Amplify: I didn't say we'd be going "out." I thought you could join me for coffee in my mom's basement, over the weekend. Bring your own fedora. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/03/14 11:30 AM |
| 12 | Guy tries to get gf pregnant without her knowledge.Seem he could have gotten away with it if he had just "forgotten" to put on a condom the same way a woman forgets to take a pill. /s | /r/TheRedPill | 07/03/14 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Spergs, Cynics, and Manipulators: How PowerTalk impacts the lifecycle of cultures.I haven't finished reading, I am on part 5, but I haven't seen anything yet that outlines how the three groups interact in a societal context. The original series outlines their relationships in a corporate world: The clueless act as a buffer to separate the losers from the sociopaths. Sociopaths rule and manipulate. Losers are the straight talking worker ants. I think the idea of how the three groups interact is original, but incorrect. There is very limited mobility between the groups, so mayb… | /r/AlreadyRed | 07/03/14 01:44 PM |
| 7 | Women use a break up as a shit test (?).This is a really good distinction. Before my RP days, I had a girl yell this at me exactly like you quoted. It's interesting that she was looking for reassurance, but I actually responded with "yep, I think so too." And then stopped contacting her. A week later she calls me, and says "How come you didn't try to get in touch with me?" That just solidified that the whole thing was a giant shit test though I didn't realize it until much later. I made the mistake of taking her back. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/03/14 01:12 PM |
| 1 | For experienced guys who get laid constantly. Do you get scared of potential pregnancy? And what do you do if she says shes pregnant?There's no such thing as a good ultimatum. Ultimatums are a sign of weakness communicating the fact that you've exhausted all other options. This was about 6 months in. We stayed together for another 5 months after that. | /r/TheRedPill | 05/03/14 01:14 AM |
| 1 | For experienced guys who get laid constantly. Do you get scared of potential pregnancy? And what do you do if she says shes pregnant?To wit, I simply remind her that, "yes, while abortion is against the teachings of Christianity and the Bible, so is premarital sex and sodomy (if applicable). You can't claim to be super-religious when it comes to abortion, and then dismiss the other parts of the religion you claim to adhere to while your having pre-marital sex. So cut the bullshit. Religion isn't a Chinese Buffet where you get to pick and choose which parts you would like to live up to." (h/t Tom Leykis on that last line, he u… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/03/14 02:21 AM |
| 1 | One of my plates asked me a good question last night, Redpill how long do you wait??Thanks, this was valuable to me. I had a conflict in my thinking because I wanted: To always be escalating Be perceived as non-judgemental Congruency Quality women I've always qualified girls for LTR except when I was traveling so it wasn't clear until now that I was unconciously pursuing a dual mating strategy. I'll have to think some more about how to resolve this. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/03/14 02:44 PM |
| 9 | Why is it easier for me to get laid outside my country?You have a couple of things working for you. Firstly you stand out from the crowd. That gets the girl's attention. Secondly, you are a scarce commodity. There are not many like you, and you are there for a limited time. Finally, Alpha fux beta bucks works in your favor because you are not considered for provider status. The girls do not expect you to stick around so you bypass shit tests. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/03/14 10:23 PM |
| 5 | I'm a British man - is the red pill necessary?I've spent 5+ years in each of USA, Canada, and the UK, as well as living in non-English-speaking countries. I can only speak for major cities, but the answer to your question is a resounding yes. There is much more variance across non-English-speaking countries where the Red Pill may not be necessary, but seriously, why would you want to avoid reality? It's better to be aware of underlying biology and cultural trends rather than put your head in the sand and hope that your particular region doe… | /r/askTRP | 01/03/14 08:53 PM |
| 1 | 35-year-old, size 17 Indian woman laments she cannot find a "decent" man. Complains that Indian men are "intimidated" by her while White guys "only want sex", which she of course gave up.Haha, had to watch the whole thing. "This woman wants a table. She wants hard wood inside her." | /r/TheRedPill | 01/03/14 06:55 PM |
| 3 | Plate got mad when I wouldn't take her out.I wasn't clear. When you say "It's your turn" you are entering a negotiation, even if you didn't offer to spend any money. EDIT: More clarification: Taking turns is making this a transactional process where my spending money now is the equivalent of you spending money earlier. This is not a good frame because you will later get arguments like "It's not fair that I have to drive to your place all the time" even when you are driving to hers 80% of the time. | /r/askTRP | 01/03/14 06:22 PM |
| 4 | Plate got mad when I wouldn't take her out.Your responses are good. I have a few others: Is that your best offer? (challenge her) Cool. So what do you think of Brietling / Patek Philippe? (ignore) That sounds like something a whore might say. (nuke that shit from orbit) BTW, the Brietling/PP line will let you screen for gold diggers and I think this particular girl sees the OP as a wallet. I agree with OP that this girl is incredibly rude - "You can buy me a drink" WTF. Just call her out for being a whore and when she says she wasn't off… | /r/askTRP | 01/03/14 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Plate got mad when I wouldn't take her out.I've had something similar come up recently. I didn't get the fclose like you did, but I read the situation as not building enough interest and nexted her. I think you handled it about the same as I would have. The only slight difference is I wouldn't negotiate using logic. If I take you out for dinner will you buy the drinks? No. / All the pabst blue ribbon I can drink. She was trying to negotiate and you bought into her frame. Calling her out over the phone would have been even worse. Also, yo… | /r/askTRP | 01/03/14 05:35 PM |
| 3 | Can't seem to alpha upYeah, I was going to ask about the depth of the LTR. I've got some other comments: You are punishing her for being feminine (getting pedicure) and rewarding her for being masculine (using logic). If that is a pattern, it is very counter-productive. Everything I said was spun into her reality Yes, she controls the frame. In this situation it is extremely hard to use things like Cocky+Funny effectively. She will spin any sort of disagreement into a conflict. I call her out for having an attitude A… | /r/askTRP | 01/03/14 09:56 AM |
| 4 | Can't seem to alpha upFirst, you picked a fight where it wasn't necessary. You are trying to use logic (separating needs and wants) but she is operating on emotions (a pedicure would fulfill the emptiness inside me). Your response was neither cocky (building yourself up) nor funny. That is what killed the mood. You could have used "Yeah, you're right it's important that you look good for me" either as the initial argument or in the recovery. This frames her actions as trying to please you. It would be 10x worse if yo… | /r/askTRP | 01/03/14 01:55 AM |
| 1 | One of my plates asked me a good question last night, Redpill how long do you wait??I can build consensus. From purely a (RP) guy's perspective, the appropriate amount of time to wait is... As little as possible. Personally, I wouldn't disqualify a girl from LTR for sleeping with me "too early." That is some madonna-whore complex right there. Like Rollo brings up, the important thing is to accurately gauge her interest level. If there's no genuine desire, NEXT because she is playing you -- regardless of whether she sleeps with you and how soon. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/03/14 01:03 AM |
| 1 | The Dave Ramsey plan for getting yourself into financial freedom.Yeah generally the max you can get in Canada is 10 year and 2/3 of people opt for 5 years. There is a lot of variation in real estate markets across countries. I bet you'd be just as surprised as I was to learn the difference between freeholds and leaseholds in the UK. Basically leasehold reverts to the original owner after 100 years. It's very popular there. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/02/14 01:51 AM |
| 0 | Why women can't give good dating advice to men.Words like easy and dull and nice are poor choices because they are often used where a more discriminating concept is necessary. Debates will often start because people can't agree on the meaning of a word or if they are intellectually dishonest, they will switch up the meanings mid-argument. You have a spectrum from simple to complicated, and orthogonally, another spectrum from effortless to work-intensive, and finally another spectrum from easy to difficult based on psychological barriers whic… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/02/14 02:49 PM |
| 3 | Reliance on Game and Assumed Advantages Will Blind YouSpot on, but I can't help thinking his whole approach was wrong. Why approach on the street when Osaka has a very popular drinking scene? PUAs in London complain about approaching being hard because of all the touts handing out leaflets and gathering donations. But in Japan women are getting approached by men looking to get them into their host club. It's probably worst in Osaka! BTW, that's where The Great Happiness Space was filmed for a reason. Maybe you can give us your perspective, how effe… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/02/14 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Are we really that bad?That video actually proves my point. I wasn't arguing that you should ignore a "no." That would be stupid. But in this case and many others no does mean yes. We're not psychics but that "no means no" meme has had such penetration that it leaves no room for discussion. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/02/14 09:31 AM |
| 9 | Are we really that bad?I agree with you about LMR but I also think that TRP is getting watered down, and feminists are winning the argument via the Overton window. I was speaking to an older guy and his view was "Sometimes no means yes." He's absolutely right but it's not a PC thing to say is it? | /r/TheRedPill | 26/02/14 03:31 AM |
| 2 | TRP and My GirlfriendNot gonna touch the copy/pasted wall of text, but the rest of it has some interesting points of discussion. PUAs I've noticed that especially recently there's been a lot of hate directed towards both PUAs and betas. PUAs are best seen as salesmen. Who doesn't hate a pushy salesman? Since the product they're selling is themselves, they are being dismissed as someone who is trying to improve their sales technique rather than improving the product. I'd rather learn what they can teach me about psyc… | /r/AlreadyRed | 26/02/14 01:11 AM |
| 2 | The Dave Ramsey plan for getting yourself into financial freedom.If you have debt that isn't entered into for investment purposes (i.e. credit card, car loan, school loan) then absolutely your first order of business should be to pay it back, especially if the interest is high or floating. Once you have that shit paid off, the way to measure if debt is good is by looking at the ROI (return on investment) or the Rate of return (% based). Generally you want to compare it to the average rate of return for the market in a given year and adjust for your risk profi… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/02/14 12:24 AM |
| 2 | Social experiment in 1920's Russia designed to destabilize the family unit has relevance to today's western world.I completely agree, but I'm curious whether that's because they both share the same stated goal of equalism (while actually promoting insider's private interests), or whether marxism has over time been subverted to serve the feminine imperative. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/02/14 11:54 PM |
| 3 | You have an actual 90% chance of fucking any girl you want.Let me break it down a bit so that we can get some value from this post. Asking a woman for her perspective or her advice is pointless. As someone pointed out, anything she says about men is already discounting the 50%+ that are invisible to her due to unattractiveness. On top of that her emotions will play such a large part that projecting future behavior becomes impossible. The part I agree with is that there will be Yes girls, No girls and Maybe girls. This is a distinction I saw Krauser expl… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/02/14 03:48 PM |
| 14 | Social experiment in 1920's Russia designed to destabilize the family unit has relevance to today's western world.Revolution is dangerous and often leads to unintended consequences. The analysis done by J4G is spot on. The men who were in a position to capitalise (heh) on the change in laws were the cads. The author of the original article was arguing about the negative effect on women ignoring the loveless betas who were now out of the game completely. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/02/14 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Being ignored out of nowhere by someone you were so close with only days ago.I honestly don't know how much overlap there is, but some terms are universal. There has been a recent backlash against the PUA community here in TRP. I have no idea how it evolved or where it's currently at because I was reading ASF about 15 years ago myself, and not at all in recent years. | /r/askTRP | 25/02/14 02:50 PM |
| 1 | The mods are tinkering with the mod botNot sure how cross-posting works, but what I'm talking about is anything that causes [x-post from /r/alreadyred] to show up in the title of a post in another sub. Saw one or two recently and it was probably inadvertent. | /r/AlreadyRed | 25/02/14 02:09 PM |
| 5 | The mods are tinkering with the mod botWhat about discouraging people from cross-posting? That's an immediate advertisement that shows up without even clicking on anything. I know some people post their own content for general discussion and also quality feedback, so maybe just stagger those. | /r/AlreadyRed | 25/02/14 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Being ignored out of nowhere by someone you were so close with only days ago.Yes, good catch. I never claimed it was original. I'm surprised GFTOW went out of style. It's still as applicable as ever. | /r/askTRP | 25/02/14 10:15 AM |
| 1 | Beta FucksI enjoy reading his new articles. I bought his book and that is where the repetition really comes into play. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/02/14 12:53 AM |
| 2 | Being ignored out of nowhere by someone you were so close with only days ago.I prefer the term emotional tampon. I think it's more accurate. | /r/askTRP | 24/02/14 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Being ignored out of nowhere by someone you were so close with only days ago.You were never close to her. Look up "time ho" in the materials. You provided her with entertainment and validation while she was bored but now something better has come along. | /r/askTRP | 24/02/14 09:49 PM |
| 3 | Attention -- All rapists and misogynists: Where do I hide the body? Alphas only.Nothing, we already know you're too smart to bring a bitch back to your place instead of an abandoned warehouse. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/02/14 06:37 PM |
| 3 | Moving in to a primarily female dominated household.The only thing I have to add is that it's always good to have an exit strategy in case things go pear shaped. Don't put your name on any of the bills, avoid signing a contract or lease and if you do sign one negotiate to have a break clause added that will let you make a clean break without any repercussions. | /r/askTRP | 23/02/14 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Facing Violence - Rory MillerI referenced this in a recent thread. There's also his Meditations on Violence which takes a more philosophical approach. Both are great reads. | /r/RedPillBooks | 22/02/14 07:12 PM |
| 1 | What is it with girls who are attracted to posers?You are confused about the term Alpha. They are Alpha precisely because they attract the women, not the other way around. Read The Alpha Buddha | /r/askTRP | 22/02/14 02:29 PM |
| 30 | Gender neutrality hurts women, literally. The toll the new events at the Olympics demand.I think the writer was being unintentionally insightful. Equality is to the detriment of women, and the snark about sexism is just filler if you define sexism as treating men and women differently. Sure it never should have gotten past the editor, but you should have extra consideration because the writer is a woman. /s | /r/TheRedPill | 21/02/14 07:36 AM |
| 1 | What is the Red Pill's view on pursuing a girl with a boyfriend?Quality girls are never single unless they want to be. You don't know how committed she is or what the story is, so why disqualify yourself? If everything is perfectly aligned and she wants you but is loyal to her existing boyfriend, well great, she can look you up later. You still need to make a move though. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/02/14 01:04 AM |
| 2 | What is the Red Pill's view on pursuing a girl with a boyfriend?A woman willing to betray and leave when something better comes along is not reliable. Hypergamy is the centerpiece of TRP. Just assume all women will do this. The view that I have and that seems to be common in TRP is simple: Never go after your mate's girl. That's it. If you don't know the guy, you don't owe him anything. He could be an orbiter, he could be a beta, he could be the best thing that ever happened to her. Who cares? | /r/TheRedPill | 21/02/14 12:46 AM |
| 2 | Wife punishes husband who doesn't want to have a baby immediately by withholding sex for months. Husband says "Fuck this noise!" and hires a prostitute. Dread game works its magic and she becomes the perfect wife. r/relationships can't pull their white armor on fast enough. It's a side-slapper.You may enjoy this recent post then: http://laidnyc.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/unnatural-selection/ | /r/TheRedPill | 20/02/14 11:29 AM |
| 4 | What's a good response to "I'm out of your league"?This is the best response here. It's got the perfect ambiguity. Everything else is catering to her, buying into her frame, or butthurt. The only other option I have is: How's that possible? No one's defeated me at tic-tac-toe since I was 7. | /r/askTRP | 19/02/14 10:16 PM |
| 24 | i feel really bad for my GF after swallowing the pillThis is the male equivalent of the cock carousel. Instead of a woman taking advantage of easy access to sex, it's the man taking advantage of easy access to a relationship. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/02/14 03:58 PM |
| 0 | A great little documentary about male hosts in Japan who make upwards of $40,000 a month from their female clienteleIt was also linked to in another thread less than two days ago, and multiple times before that. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/14 10:34 PM |
| 1 | Guy grabs your girls ass in bar. How do you respond?Sam Harris did a series of blog articles on his website and referenced this guy, and I read a few of his books. His Facing Violence book is much more practical. He talks about freezing up, and how to tell what kind of situation you are in. Very useful because if you can't read the signs you might be in much more danger than you think. There is also a whole breakdown of sports vs martial arts vs streets vs combat. People train for one and think their training prepares them for one of the others w… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/14 12:19 PM |
| 3 | Guy grabs your girls ass in bar. How do you respond?There's a great book by Rory Miller called Meditations on Violence that also explores the difference between martial arts, street fights, etc... It's a great read. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/14 10:21 AM |
| 46 | Learn from my mistake. NEVER talk to your friends about RedPill ideas unless they explicitly ask you for itNot only that, they guy showed massive disrespect. If somebody I was trying to help started calling me stupid and a "fucking idiot" I would immediately stop the conversation. Someone like that isn't getting any help from me, and is not someone I want to be around anyway. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/02/14 09:26 AM |
| 2 | Girlfriend of two+ years got out of town job offer for the summer and might be going away for two months. Need advice on how to approach this.I was gonna post my own answer, but you pretty much nailed it. | /r/askTRP | 17/02/14 11:56 PM |
| 2 | Defuse This Shit-Test: "All you guys are in relationships run by your girlfriends." (After 7 Other Betas Agree With Her)From your description it sounds like she was holding court. Seriously, she asks the same question to 8 guys and nobody interrupts her or changes the subject? Just say "this conversation bores me" and leave. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/02/14 09:54 AM |
| 1 | How to break up with an LTR?Yes, this is good but I think finality is a better word choice because closure has other connotations. It's girls who "need that closure." They are essentially trying to get the last word in, put you in a box, and smugly declare that they understand you. Closure is more about explaining the reasons for the failure of the relationship so that there are no open questions. It's in fact the opposite of your example because rather than preventing argument it just invites discussion. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/02/14 07:05 PM |
| 1 | I wrote a letter to my GF who cheated on me. Bad idea to send it?Don't send it, you will just give her closure she doesn't deserve. http://laidnyc.wordpress.com/2013/08/14/closure-is-bullshit/ | /r/askTRP | 16/02/14 06:45 PM |
| 11 | "I feel like I'm just a booty call".Binary thinking. There are always more options than just yes or no. This was a shit test and you failed, although it was unusual because she was actually hoping for a beta response. What her friends say is irrelevant. How you could have handled it: Punish her for asking the question, ignoring it and withdrawing attention Use humor - Tell her she's also your cook (if that's something she does for you) Reframe with "you're my lover". You're not actually adding any new information but just using di… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/02/14 01:52 PM |
| 4 | Hypogency in Women: "How much ability and responsibility do women have in regulating their own behavior?"I think as men, accountability means: You did something You confess/agree that you did this thing You were previously told that it was the wrong thing to do You did it anyway You agree that you should not have done it (maybe you didn't realize the implication and need it explained to you) Now you will take the punishment For women, accountability is different: You did something It felt right Gonna stop there because I think you can see that following any of the process above is futile. Just skip… | /r/AlreadyRed | 16/02/14 10:29 AM |
| 1 | How to break up with an LTR?I've been in both types of situations. If the two people breaking up are fighting, etc... then I absolutely think contact should be cut. From OP's description it sounds like the relationship is still on decent terms. That means that by setting expectations (honestly) and saying that they can't be together as a couple, there is still room for her to be in his life. It's not about being callous; it's about coming to the realization that you are not responsible for a woman's feelings. If women sens… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/02/14 09:05 AM |
| -1 | How to break up with an LTR?Liked all of your advice except for: but saying something like it adds a certain sense of closure Closure is for women. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't want guys thinking this is good advice if they find themselves on the other side of a breakup. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/02/14 12:47 AM |
| 10 | How to break up with an LTR?I agree with the sentiment of your post, but keep in mind the girl will absolutely try to make you look bad no matter what. You have to depend on signalling to make sure the rest of your social circle is on your side. I've had a girl post on her facebook "Free at last." As a result all of our common friends dropped her, because I was able to frame it correctly. offer your support for a couple days. NO. Do not do this. Clean break. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/02/14 12:41 AM |
| 1 | How to break up with an LTR?[don't] Tell her that you're not in a place for a relationship right now Not sure I follow this other than being caught out in another relationship and looking like a liar (which girls will do anyway and then say it just happened). Why not steal that script? Be concise and to the point about the break up, eg, "I no longer feel an attraction towards you" Not sure this will work, I've been in situations where this was the exact insecurity the girl was worried about and saying it out loud will do h… | /r/TheRedPill | 16/02/14 12:33 AM |
| 11 | What is your take on "not giving up" and "fighting for what you want" tests that women always give?You could use it as a challenge: "What is it about you that makes you worth fighting for?" | /r/askTRP | 15/02/14 06:30 PM |
| 17 | What is your take on "not giving up" and "fighting for what you want" tests that women always give?Yeah, shaming tactic designed to appeal to your protector instinct. Twist the shiv by replying with "I'm going out there to find a woman worth fighting for." | /r/askTRP | 15/02/14 06:26 PM |
| 11 | How to break up with an LTR?Logistically make sure she has nothing at your place that she needs to go back for, make sure she has her own way of getting home, and cut contact cleanly. If you have a plausible "reason" for why you two need to break up, go ahead and use that. "I don't see a future together", "We have different paths to take", "I've discovered a new passion and need to pursue it without any distractions", "I am moving and not willing to be in a LDR", "I need some space to see where my life is heading" are all … | /r/TheRedPill | 15/02/14 06:06 PM |
| 2 | What is the RP theory/psychology behind on and off relationships?He could be a "project" that she's working on, and she's just not willing to give up on him. Often, the psychology behind it is the woman's need for drama. It's exciting and the emotions are addicting. She gets to ride the ups and then evoke sympathy from her friends and family during the downs. There's definitely a level of codependency in the relationship. What is his level of narcissism? That could easily counter-act the beta traits you've described. Remember the dark triad: Narcissism, Machi… | /r/askTRP | 15/02/14 12:39 PM |
| 6 | Hypogency in Women: "How much ability and responsibility do women have in regulating their own behavior?"I've read The Selfish Gene but I think the book that applies to this topic even more is Free Will by Sam Harris. He argues that essentially humans have no agency at all. He focuses on criminal cases and moral rights but his arguments could just as easily apply to sexual relations. Your argument is closer to my own thinking. To answer the OP's question: What is the balance you strike on holding bitches accountable yet recognizing that parts of them are simply too inconsistent to trust? You can al… | /r/AlreadyRed | 15/02/14 11:31 AM |
| 14 | On locality of sexual marketplaces and the implications on game - The Double DownI think part of it is just too much validation. I know women like this. They are surrounded by so much reinforcement to their poor behavior that it just doesn't enter their head that she could be in the wrong. I think that dealing with this you have to be a bit tricky. You cannot confront them head-on because they will never change their minds. You write that you were standing your ground but what I think will work better is if you reframe. In your examples I see you giving logical reasons for w… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/02/14 11:15 PM |
| 10 | "What would a "men's rights" course look like?" - Article belittling those that support a Men's Studies course proposed for an Australian universityYeah I imagine that when women's rights courses were first proposed they got the same treatment. You have the right... To make me a sandwich. Know your rights! The rule of thumb. One home, one vote. Nagging your way to democracy. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/02/14 02:00 PM |
| 1 | I recently stumbled on Sex at Dawn, by Christopher Ryan, which in my opinion poses the only legitimate refutal of central aspects of TheRedPill, does anyone have good arguments against his account of sexuality?Can we get a summary or analysis? | /r/TheRedPill | 12/02/14 01:51 PM |
| 2 | Actually, AWALT.So, realizing my mistake I have a talk to her about all the stuff I do for her, and gave her a list of things I do for her without a second thought. Here is where you went wrong, and I think you realize that and lots of people have pointed it out to you. You are really getting some gold advice in this thread. What you could have done instead after she "read you the riot act" was a classic textbook: "You done?" Then just change the subject and talk about your own shit or ignore her. Give her a da… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/02/14 11:18 AM |
| 2 | Male rights activist puts feminist in her placeI think I was able to track down an abstract of the actual study here: http://phys.org/news136557147.html So what's interesting is what's left unsaid in the interview: That women are happier than men until the age of 48!!! They framed it perfectly and everyone fell for it. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/02/14 10:42 AM |
| 16 | Male rights activist puts feminist in her placeThis is Fox News, they just stir shit up. Did you notice the expression on the woman's face when she said the study was conducted by "economists"? Also, the screeching harpy just kept repeating the same talking point that the study was conducted by men and therefore has no credibility. The guy handled himself remarkably well. News in America is messed up; they don't even have any requirements to report facts truthfully. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/02/14 09:14 AM |
| 31 | Ghostface Killah holds his frame with his ex-stripper girlfriendNew acronym: Not All Strippers Are Like That. LOL | /r/TheRedPill | 10/02/14 08:38 AM |
| 3 | How to tell a girl she screwed up?You are talking and explaining too much. There was a question in /r/askTRP in the last few days similar to yours. Answer: Punish girls by withdrawing attention. /u/YouCanChangeIt has given you all the information you need, +1 Just as a side note, the three tenets that apply in this situation are: Watch what girls do, not what they say Don't use logic to negotiate desire - your ultimatum will backfire spectacularly Most importantly: NEXT | /r/askTRP | 07/02/14 05:19 PM |
| 1 | I was doubting TRP, then this confirmed what you say about womenHe framed it poorly. If you worry about what is "acceptable" then you have not swallowed the pill. My red pill friends absolutely tell their women what to wear and some things are only worn for their enjoyment, never when the man is not around. Grandpa had weak frame and he phrased his request poorly. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/02/14 11:17 PM |
| 2 | So the girl I mentioned in my previous post flaked on me. I would appreciate useful tips/analysis"it was ok" Please walk all over me. "I will call you later" The ball is in your court. "When will you be available again?" I can't make decisions. Will you be my mom? "Call me later" You're not attracted to me but maybe we can meet later and just talk, like friends. "Did you get your schedule yet" I'm really desperate. So that was a translation of what you said vs what she heard. She flaked for whatever reason and your only job is to: Keep your emotions in check Don't give her validation or rew… | /r/askTRP | 03/02/14 08:39 AM |
| 0 | Need help with a possible shit testAfter the update: Stop thinking about texts to flirt with this girl and start thinking about texts to set up a meeting, otherwise you are just giving her validation. "chances arent given theyre taken. meet me on thursday at X" | /r/askTRP | 03/02/14 07:40 AM |
| 7 | Women TOTALLY deserve credit for the Broncos making it to the Super Bowl!Of course they do, otherwise how could they have a valid claim to half of their husband's assets? | /r/TheRedPill | 02/02/14 12:19 PM |
| 12 | No, Women Don’t Make Less Money Than MenDid you even read the article? It's clear they are NOT comparing comparable positions. That's what the entire article is about. I'll quote the relevant bit below: The 23-cent gender pay gap is simply the difference between the average earnings of all men and women working full-time. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/02/14 12:15 PM |
| 1 | Amazon removes Guide to date rape after outcryPeople don't realize that the American laws regarding free speech only deal with stifling political speech. There's nothing that forces businesses to carry any product they don't want to. Kickstarter did the same thing a few months ago if anyone remembers it. The author in that case made the huge mistake of apologizing which was basically showing everyone his jugular. Publishing a book digitally has almost no overheads. So what if Amazon doesn't carry it. That means the author can pocket their 3… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/02/14 10:28 PM |
| 11 | Facebook bans RooshV and deletes associated pages including RoK's Facebook pageROK had to deal with this already: http://www.returnofkings.com/25591/why-is-wordpress-developer-kevin-conboy-threatening-to-delete-blogs-he-disagrees-with | /r/TheRedPill | 30/01/14 11:22 PM |
| 4 | RedPillWomen Mods AMA! ASK THEM ALMOST ANYTHING!Interesting, does that mean there are other specific communities besides TRP that you see RPW to be the intersection of? | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/14 10:08 PM |
| 5 | RedPillWomen Mods AMA! ASK THEM ALMOST ANYTHING!I read through your list of acronyms expecting them to be very similar to what we have in TRP, but actually you have almost double! SMA. We talk about Hamsters and The Wall and NAWALT and One-Itis. What concepts/tropes have you discovered within RPW by talking and comparing experiences with other Red Pill Women? | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/14 10:01 PM |
| 19 | RedPillWomen Mods AMA! ASK THEM ALMOST ANYTHING!I just read through the FAQ you put up yesterday on RPW and one of the things you don't mention or talk about is The Blue Pill. I'm not talking about the subreddit, but the actual metaphor of denying reality to live plugged-in and blissfully unaware. Since men's blue pill is to live conditioned in a world dictated by the feminine imperative, what do you see as the blue pill counterpart to RPW? | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/14 09:30 PM |
| 1 | Proof that "if you're 'friends' with a girl you can't date you can get with her other friends" is a lie!Yeah that was just a bit of frame control. Notice how anything the bitch says about you is tainted. Most importantly remember: Judge a girl based on what she does, not on what she says or how she makes you feel. This princess is just a whirlpool of negativity. Hope you have cut contact with the cunt. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/14 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Shit test helpIt really depends on context, but I see it as cocky without the funny. If you can do the amplify part of it through tonality and body language then it will work for you. If you fail to amplify, it's not as bad as failing a shit test but you will get unnecessary drama (which you must ignore). | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/14 12:19 PM |
| 35 | Proof that "if you're 'friends' with a girl you can't date you can get with her other friends" is a lie!I interject and say, "Hey, if she likes me... she likes me!" You lost it right there. Instead you could have said to Alicia (jokingly): "She's just jealous and wants me all to herself." "Don't listen to anything she says. She's just getting over her denial." Later: "Isn't it cute how a woman in love will do anything to keep other girls away from her man? Shame I'm not into raging jealousy. Doesn't do anything for me." Let that hampster work in your favor for once. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/01/14 10:35 AM |
| 1 | What am I doing wrong guysThis is bulllshit Just Be Yourself advice. You should be focused on the process and not the goal. The guy is not coming from the same background as you so he needs to force himself. Telling him that "It should just be natural" is useless. | /r/askTRP | 29/01/14 10:25 AM |
| 6 | Shit test helpThis is the correct response. You never want to counter logically. Here are some wrong responses even though they are not supplicating: "I don't care." "Too bad." "You're going to get more of the same. " Here are a few more decent ones: "Did you just fart?" "I am patronizing. I'm proud of my country." "When you use the patronizing label, I feel like you are being judgmental and that's really unattractive in a girl" Just kidding about the last one. Only use that one on fatties cramping your style… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/01/14 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Something important and quite easy to change: Body language.Heh, something I still struggle with. It is literally impossible for me to have a conversation in a loud bar because I'm a foot taller than everyone. Any tips you want to share? | /r/TheRedPill | 27/01/14 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Will she Buy you Diner?"I told her it was because I didn't want to turn her into a prostitute ;) "I didn't flirt with you because I don't want you to get pregnant." | /r/TheRedPill | 26/01/14 04:28 PM |
| 0 | Correct way to deal with a woman being aggressive with you around knights?Yeah she froze up and then ran out of the bar. At that point a counter-accusation just looks butthurt. I have no idea what she did to him so his response was probably overkill. Lesson I learned is don't fuck with that guy. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/01/14 10:39 AM |
| 8 | GF saw an old photo of a plate naked in my bed. Major drama.This. Nothing much more to add here. The frame was lost with the explanation, the apology, and the pleading. Beta move after beta move. OP's best response would have been anger followed by an accusation: "I'm here with you planning for the best possible birthday and this is how you treat me?" Hell, you can even reference the photo "SOME girls know how to treat me right." If all the beta shit had been avoided and the girl still kicked him out, he could have called her best friend and used the fri… | /r/askTRP | 24/01/14 11:59 PM |
| 1 | How quickly/aggressively do you "next" women, and is it possible to be too quick to "next" them?I next them if they do something disrespectful, and I have a low tolerance for bullshit. I also make sure I learn something from the situation to apply for the next girl. In your case, I hope that "text fairly regularly" means maximum one per week. Her "Can't wait to meet you when I get back" is as meaningless as "We should hang out sometime." You need to take the lead, set the date (do not ask for her opinion or give her multiple choices), and follow through. Fair enough, she was leaving the co… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/01/14 08:30 PM |
| 9 | What to do when I'm with a SO/fuckbuddy/fwb/etc and we are with a bunch of female friends?I'll let others answer your fundamental question, but I will give you some gold advice that I got a long time ago. If it's your SO, I'd make sure I had phone numbers for her closest friends by the end of the night. Not to game them, but because sometimes you'll get a nuclear shit test and having their number is the only way of keeping communication open. i.e. she fucks up, you walk away and then you don't want to be the one calling her. It's tactical, gives you more options for a soft next. | /r/askTRP | 24/01/14 02:19 PM |
| 6 | Proper response when a girl asks you for a favor?In a similar vein: "That's overrated. Can I get a refund?" Using one over the other depends on context. | /r/askTRP | 23/01/14 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Proper response when a girl asks you for a favor?You did nothing wrong, and this was definitely a way for her to extract value from you and see if you were a pushover. My favorite response is contextual or back to the old standby from DYD: "I could <pause>, but I won't." | /r/askTRP | 23/01/14 07:35 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Date with 30yo girl in NYC, she stays over at my place, semi f close. Major LMR. Could use some advice going forward.Fitness for relationship. But that can be more general. It can certainly include physical fitness - just make a general comment that fat people don't do anything for you sexually. See how she reacts. The stronger your frame, the more likely she is to just agree with you and you can make even stronger statements that show how picky you are: "If my gf got fat, I would totally dump her." This will make her qualify herself saying how she would never let herself go. But if your frame is weak, she wil… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/01/14 07:20 PM |
| 2 | "How I ask girls out"Yeah, you gotta lead. Setting an initial frame (professional) and then changing it up (sexual or playful) is harder than just setting the playful one up in the first place. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/01/14 01:53 PM |
| 27 | A look from the other side: How it feels to be 'girlfriendzoned'Well, it's interesting the way the girl was able to make it all about her feelings, but I'd propose the following explanation. The guy confesses he likes the girl and what he is really communicating is: Your pussy has value to me. The girl responds with a LJBF and what she is really communicating is: Your dick has no value to me. The girl pulls back because the guy is unattractive. She would love to maintain the same relationship as before but it's impossible because the dynamic has changed comp… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/01/14 12:44 PM |
| 2 | A look from the other side: How it feels to be 'girlfriendzoned'Her definition of being girlfriendzoned is being treated like a girlfriend instead of one of the guys. So the guy confesses his feelings and she rejects him. Really it's just the guy being friendzoned from the girl's perspective. I don't think she's being too feminine. I think her "friends" are just desperate. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/01/14 12:26 PM |
| -2 | Girl rejects me and says "I used to get raped a lot."I agree with you in this particular instance. A better response would have been something like "Yeah me too, we shouldn't be doing this." and then escalate. However, there are times when "I don't care" is the correct response, usually before the first kiss when she says "I have a boyfriend." Let's look at the outcome though: bullet dodged. Regardless of whether she was actually raped, or raped according to some feminist definition: Has anyone ever touched you without your explicit permission? Th… | /r/askTRP | 22/01/14 03:55 PM |
| 3 | [FR] Date with 30yo girl in NYC, she stays over at my place, semi f close. Major LMR. Could use some advice going forward.you: "I don't let girls I'm not fucking get into my bed. I haven't fucked you yet so stay out of my bed." This is gold. Another one I've used successfully (from Roissy) is: "I don't let girls into my bedroom unless they're naked." | /r/TheRedPill | 21/01/14 07:28 PM |
| 8 | Is TRP a paradigm or an ideology?I see it as mostly descriptive rather than prescriptive. I don't see it as an ideology because: different men are looking for different results so there is no one true way we specifically avoid discussion about morality - people make their own choices we don't necessarily want to convert anyone - though sometimes you just want to aleviate the suffering of the clueless we don't say how people should behave - i.e. Women should give up their hypergamy and just love us for who we are The only prescr… | /r/askTRP | 21/01/14 07:17 PM |
| 1 | A date asked me if I was gay. I've also been told I act too metrosexual. Insight/Advice?I wouldn't worry about the stereotypes. Being into fashion, well-groomed, etc... It just doesn't matter. I think what is holding you back is lack of escalation and trying to engage her on common interests. Talking about common interests like fashion (or dating, or her guy problems) will put you in the friend zone. But the lack of touching and sexual innuendo coupled with the stereotypes is what will kill you. Put simply you are relying on conversation to build comfort but there's no sexual tensi… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/01/14 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Update from the guy whose fiance wanted to "end their relationship because of his dick size"The only time that breaking these rules will help you is if the girl is feeling vulnerable because you are overgaming. Too much alpha makes you unattainable in her eyes so you can bring yourself back down to earth. This will only be an issue if your SMV is much higher than hers. Much better to simply go after better prospects. Every guy who shares his vulnerabilities does so because he thinks it is effective at building attraction and makes him unique. This is what we call beta game. http://ther… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/01/14 02:42 PM |
| 2 | Update from the guy whose fiance wanted to "end their relationship because of his dick size"Also behaving in this way seems to set you apart from a lot of other guys who don't communicate this way. Read this article: http://therationalmale.com/2014/01/20/suck-it-up/ Especially the following paragraph is relevant: A man who is intentionally vulnerable smacks of a guy who is so in an effort to qualify for her intimacy. It’s similar to the dynamic found in Play Nice, that niceness, that vulnerability that’s supposed to be strength, is perceived as a ruse to better identify with the femini… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/01/14 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Update from the guy whose fiance wanted to "end their relationship because of his dick size"He will get laughs; self-deprecating humor is very effective. It's disarming and makes people more comfortable because they don't see him as a threat. However, joking about your fitness or your finances will lower your chances with a woman every single time. The ONLY exception is if you are so far above her that you need to bring yourself down just to make her think she has a chance with you. In which case, why are you even gaming her? Go after higher quality women. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/01/14 02:26 PM |
| 4 | [FR] Date with 30yo girl in NYC, she stays over at my place, semi f close. Major LMR. Could use some advice going forward.1) Is texting for 3-4 weeks between meetings bad protocol? Not necessarily, I'd just keep it to one text a week though. Logistics are sometimes unavoidable. Just send a rapport-building text once in a while. 2) Was meeting at an expensive-ish place for dinner and paying for it a bad idea? Yes. Especially paying for the dinner will put you firmly in provider territory. I know that with some girls it really becomes an issue, just hold firm no matter what. You should be able to do this covertly. i.… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/01/14 02:16 PM |
| 3 | "How I ask girls out"If hypergamy is not the dynamic in play then what is ? I was saying hypergamy is the dynamic in play, not women's avoidance of rejection. This is what the text to my second link was referring to. That interest was an indicator of her attraction towards you. During the date you dont build anything, you maintain that initial attraction by passing shit tests, establishing a raport and escalating. Thinking like you start from scratch attraction-wise during a date is a bad frame. Thanks, that's a ver… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/01/14 01:44 PM |
| 10 | "How I ask girls out"I think the part about setting up definite plans and not offering alternatives is key. I also agree about women hamstering to avoid rejection, but if she has other options she's more interested in, that's not the dynamic in play. Sounding professional and distant sounds like rationalization on the part of the man. I do this naturally and I find it actually makes it harder to escalate later because the frame carries over to the actual meet. I was out with a girl last month and the initial meeting… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/01/14 12:40 PM |
| 1 | [Meta] Why are the majority of people so shut off to objective debate?I try to avoid coming to conclusions until the evidence is overwhelming. That lets me keep an open mind about most things. I'm eager to hear rebuttals or counter-arguments. I consider myself a contrarian and will often argue hypothetically taking a position I myself don't believe. There are disadvantages to this kind of approach as well. I had a hard time convincing my best friend about the red pill. For him every little piece was a revelation. It took years for him to change his views. For me, … | /r/TheRedPill | 20/01/14 02:12 AM |
| 2 | How to become wittier / funnier (on a fundamental level)?For me, it very much relies on state. I have to be in a playful mood to be funny. Similarly, I have to be in a particular zone to induce arousal. If you are in that state, then acting it out becomes the most natural thing in the world. Unfortunately and I think you and I are similar in this, our default states are "nice, polite, professional." Even with the forethought that I should not give direct logical answers to common questions, I will still do it when the waitress asks me "how was your fo… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/01/14 05:19 AM |
| 1 | LTR Advice: How to stop asking what she wants?Offering alternatives won't hurt you as much as placing the burden of having to think of plans on her. Showing consideration will build comfort instead of attraction, but it will not actually hurt you unless you do it too much. I think the behavior here is not the problem. The real problem is that you have a default response and you can't seem to shake it. So, some possible remedies: First, dig down to see WHY this behavior is present. Are you trying to be helpful? Are you afraid of commiting to… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/01/14 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Why should I care about you?I was at a conference last year and a woman said to me "Isn't it great that for the first time in history, membership in Toastmasters has reached 50% women?" My response was: "I don't care, it really doesn't affect me." Cue the outrage. Keep in mind that Toastmasters started as a men's only club. Now, in this particular case I don't think it's a matter of women invading men's spaces and I don't mind having women as part of the organization. There is no discrimination and there's no barrier to en… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/01/14 07:24 PM |
| 3 | guy asks his GF to politely cover up her ass infront of his friend. his militant feminist GF and the hamsters/whiteknights at r/relationships tear him a new oneYour response is definitely under-rated. There's no reason to pick a fight over this. I think the soft touch is the way to go. Girls are excellent at reading subcommunication and when you resort to overtly telling them what to do, they will dig in their heels. At that point you've already lost half the game. State your preference, and if she doesn't comply, punish her immediately by withdrawing attention. When she does something you like, reward intermittently. Save the overt communication for w… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/01/14 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Update from the guy whose fiance wanted to "end their relationship because of his dick size"I don't necessarily see being an asshole as a negative. Arrogance laced with humor is classic Cocky + Funny. If a girl calls you an asshole or a jerk while laughing then we both know you're on the right track. I'm not sure it would work with negative qualities unrelated to arrogance. The trick here is that you are NOT self-deprecating. You are putting yourself above her and the humor is allowing the message to get through. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/01/14 02:18 AM |
| 122 | Update from the guy whose fiance wanted to "end their relationship because of his dick size"OP, props to you for dropping by again. Ignore the guys who call you beta. It's really just shorthand for beta behaviors and you'll notice none of the TRP Endorsed posters resort to the name calling. There's a lot of new people on the sub so focus on advice that is actually actionable and backed up by experience (yours or the poster's). So you did the right thing. You kicked her ass to the curb. IMO there was no need to confront her and all you got was what we call "trickle truth". She did much … | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/14 08:54 PM |
| 2 | How do you turn a one-night stand into a relationship?Yeah, it's simple. Just bang her more than once a week. That's why the advice for FBs is to never bang more than once a week - she will become emotionally attached. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/01/14 01:01 AM |
| 2 | When some guy/orbiter constantly insults you around a girlI don't like any of these. 2 might work, with the caveats pointed out by /u/TehGinjaNinja 1 is weak. 3 is ok, but I would out him in public rather than having a private talk, unless I didn't want witnesses because I was planning to seriously threaten him. My preferred route would be to sabotage his relationship with the girl and make him look like a douche. Exclude him from the group conversation by interrupting him, exclude him from the group through body language (block him out of the circle),… | /r/askTRP | 13/01/14 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Never Chase Women - A review of RP strategy and seduction tacticsThis was off the record (in person), but he basically talked about Style's sticking points. Style had a habbit of approaching 6's to warm up and get in a chatty mood, but he was good enough that instead of ejecting after the warmup, he would take them home. From the context, it was still going on months after the book was written. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/01/14 10:29 PM |
| 28 | Brendan Frasier is going bankrupt because he broke his back in Hurrican Sandy and can't pay his monthly $110,000 alimony.This is really insightful. She has the same job. Really underlines that feminists are not after equal opportunities, but equal outcomes. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/01/14 01:41 AM |
| 11 | Chivalry.Why it doesn't it work anymore? Most importantly , how could it be working in the past? Are not women the same?I think you mean 1400's rather than 40's. Rollo had a few articles on this topic: http://therationalmale.com/2013/01/02/the-feminine-imperative-circa-1300/ Short version: Chivalry never worked even going back 800 years. | /r/askTRP | 12/01/14 08:19 PM |
| 31 | Best approach to handling white-knights/male cockblocks/drunk muscles at the bar?Someone else phrased it better recently, I think it was IllimitableMan: "Is this your man?" I think this sends a stronger message. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/01/14 03:16 AM |
| 3 | Supplication by her buying you things?You're right. That sounds horrible. Send her my way and I'll straighten her out. /s | /r/askTRP | 11/01/14 10:04 PM |
| 5 | Revelation and a question.Tell stories about your experiences and just talk about how excited or surprised or triumphant you felt.. Use positive emotions and get her to relate to your situation. You can use leading questions/statements "Have you ever felt this way?"/"You can imagine how I felt." Stories are great at just about every stage and personal stories are much easier for you to remember and empathize with. Avoid factual stories like "I did x, then I did y and z happened as a result." Learn to build the tension an… | /r/askTRP | 11/01/14 09:56 PM |
| 3 | My girlfriend is about to ask me "did I enjoy the weekend away?" How do I answer?Man, you can have so much fun with this. You're overthinking it. Agree and Amplify. You can be honest as long as you lace it with humor. Yeah, shit. Is it over yet? I think it would have been better if I had been brutally murdered and then you used my body as a puppet like that movie Weekend at Bernie's. Your friends probably wouldn't have noticed. Do you remember that scene in Fight Club? The penguin in the cave? It was sort of like that. It would have been better to have either avoided the sit… | /r/askTRP | 11/01/14 09:31 PM |
| 3 | Optimal protein intake?This study has very limited applications since the results specifically apply to people on a diet attempting to lose weight. The 2x RDA amount reduced the amount of muscle lost while on a restricted diet. It's not clear that the results are applicable to people bulking up. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/01/14 05:44 PM |
| 3 | A Tale of Two WomenI can give you a plausible argument for why that's not the case. We did not help to create the cock carousel. Indulging rather than fighting may actually be a moderating influence. Imagine a world where men unified to deny sex to women because it was bad for society. What would happen? A certain percentage of men, say 1%, would defect. We would have 1% of the men having 99% of the sex. Do you think that would increase or decrease the amount of hypergamy compared to the situation as it actually s… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/01/14 08:50 AM |
| 22 | A Tale of Two WomenThe key feature here is the timeline. If a girl holds out for sex when she is young because she is looking for a relationship, great! We will filter each other out or maybe when I am old enough and she shows many other amazing qualities, I can put up with it. Win-win. What happens 100% of the time instead is that girls jump from cock to cock while they are young and then create these rules for themselves once they reach their 30s at which point they have a limited shelf life. Why pay for the cow… | /r/TheRedPill | 11/01/14 02:30 AM |
| 8 | Best way to shut a girl up that is hamstering?I go with a slow poke to the forehead and say "do you have an off button?" Usually gets a laugh and they stop talking. Can't imagine a girl taking a swing at me over this. Of course, I would not bother doing something like this with a warpig. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/01/14 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Looking for some sage advice and perspective for a possibly major issue in my otherwise great LTR with a 'unicorn'.Is this an open-ended LDR? Cause LDRs in general just don't work. MAYBE a strong relationship might last through a 4 week separation. How about: Hey, this isn't working for me. Look me up when you're back in town. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/14 10:55 PM |
| 7 | The proper framing when presenting RP theory to the unplugged.There's a few simple rules to follow if you want to open someone's eyes. Drop the jargon Know your audience Test the waters Use humor Become an authority in their eyes The idea is that you have to know where the person is at. Some guys just cannot be reached. Triage. Speak in their language, not the language of TRP. That means no discussion of pills, plates, or walls. Throw out a few RP ideas, side comments, jokes, etc... See how they react. If it's positive, you can jump right into some observa… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/14 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Can't believe the balls of some girlsI agree that there are better playful options, but I don't think anything will work in this case. There's a famous line in DYD: Never give a direct answer unless that answer is No. You are not failing a shit test as much as setting boundaries. Giving her serious consideration, explaining yourself or your reasons or supplicating would all fail the test. In the end I think setting boundaries is for quality girls and by asking this question the girl has put herself firmly into ONS category. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/14 04:10 PM |
| 2 | Can't believe the balls of some girlsHer: Okay, are you paying? Let's take a rain check. <delete her number> Her: Okay, are you paying? Yes. <delete her number> Her: Okay, are you paying? No. <delete her number> Her: Okay, are you paying? Change of plan. <delete her number> Her: Okay, are you paying? <no response> Her: Okay, are you paying? ... Only the last response gives any sort of chance for something to happen. Let her qualify herself. Here's the problem: She does not respect you and no amount of shame or reframing is going to… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/14 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Never Chase Women - A review of RP strategy and seduction tacticsHonestly, I haven't read any strictly PU stuff in a LONG time; I was reminded how different the terminology is when I glanced through the glossary at the back of The Game. Date game is a bit ambiguous. If you are just getting into it, Double Your Dating is a good video series to get into. The earlier RSD materials are good too. I have a copy of The Blueprint, but the one before that was the one that deals with tactics. You can also get a free copy of The Book of Pook. Most of my reading was on f… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/01/14 01:30 AM |
| 6 | Having a Girlfriend Is Not “Game on Hard Mode”It's an oversimplification. Getting a girlfriend is easier I would say. I think what people mean is that once you are exclusive with someone, you've lost a lot of your power. That means you are working with a penalty and have to compensate. Looking at other couples is pointless. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/01/14 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Conflict between my world view and RPI really like this post and I think it's great that you can see the conflict for what it is in such detailed terms. The issue here is that your beliefs have been formed by exposure to influences that do not have your best interest at heart. I think that if you work on exploring that conflict and diving even deeper, stepping out of your comfort zone, you will eventually see some results and that will cause a shift in your beliefs. The conflict can be resolved but only if you can form some distinc… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/01/14 03:11 PM |
| 1 | Never Chase Women - A review of RP strategy and seduction tacticsKeep in mind that Style and Mystery are masters of the open loop so they know how to tell multiple stories concurrently. Every character had his own conflict. You had Herbal/Tynan fighting over Katya with Mystery. You had twenty-six moving to India to be spiritual. Style was the author of the book so his conflict had to be at least as big as that: does he accept the PUA lifestyle? In the book, no. In real life, he was still sarging months after it was written. Don't know the publication details … | /r/TheRedPill | 07/01/14 02:32 PM |
| 5 | Never Chase Women - A review of RP strategy and seduction tacticsNot eventually. By then it's too late. You can set your own frame, but here is one possibility: You are the director and are auditioning women to be the star of your cast. Maybe you are not yet a famous director. So you introduce yourself giving the women an opportunity to impress you with their talent. You don't want to show SEXUAL interest. You don't want to show OVERT interest. You want to DEMONSTRATE the qualities of a great director. Do you see how this situation allows you to pursue women … | /r/TheRedPill | 07/01/14 04:45 AM |
| 2 | Never Chase Women - A review of RP strategy and seduction tacticsThat ending was added to make the book more palatable and marketable. I remember Mystery made several remarks that contradicted that outcome. Keep in mind it was not a book designed to teach people about seduction, but a book designed to sell itself. People want drama and closure. How do you think the book would read without that climax? | /r/TheRedPill | 07/01/14 04:32 AM |
| 1 | range vs polarity - what works?You'll calibrate with experience. What intrigues women the most is a walking contradiction. If you look like a brooding psycho, your best approach is a liberal dose of humor, Cocky + Funny. Be careful swinging to extremes, you can really alienate people and make a mess of your life. Of course if you've hit bottom it can also be effective :) | /r/TheRedPill | 06/01/14 04:39 AM |
| 2 | BPers allow friend to get strung alongI had a very similar incident happen to me recently. The only difference was I had to work hard to discourage her and keep her at a distance. This was purely because of the relationship dynamics in the group. Here's the thing. The red pillers in the group saw exactly what was going on. The girls in the group saw exactly what was going on. The only people who were oblivious were the blue pill guys including the boyfriend. So what comments did I get? "She's such a slut." "You could have had her if… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/01/14 11:25 PM |
| 2 | How to handle girls bad mouthing you behind your back?Roissy had a great post on this recently, can't find it though :( When anyone confronts you about it, you have to ignore it in a particular way. The go-to reply to "X said that you did Y" is "Something like that." Don't tell your side of the story, and don't lash out. Be dismissive. | /r/askTRP | 05/01/14 04:32 AM |
| 2 | Hypergamy is killing my game.Don't make anything up that will come back to bite you. If you want the focus off work, make up a ridiculous profession. "I wash ducks" - credit to scottishredpill If she persists, accuse her of being a gold digger (playfully). | /r/askTRP | 05/01/14 04:15 AM |
| 4 | What would you be willing to give up or compromise on for the one?There is no "one" and the concept of sacrifice that you are evoking indicates you need to spend more time reading the materials. I suggest Rollo's book The Rational Male which will answer the question behind your question. You are basically asking: how do you self-sabotage by losing frame in order to get something that doesn't exist and is counter-productive to what you want? A better way to ask the question would be: What criteria and boundaries do you set when pursuing a LTR with a quality gir… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/01/14 03:34 AM |
| 5 | TRP discussion of Don Jon (movie)He denies it and then when he gets caught again, he promises to change. I hope any red pill man will reframe the situation so that it's clear she's out of bounds. The level of disrespect he put up with is also colossal. In the earlier thread someone else commented on the fact that he failed to be dominant in the bedroom which was the cause of a lot of his problems. I was really hoping the Moore character turned out to be an ex porn star who would do everything he wanted and have him still end up… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/01/14 03:16 AM |
| 3 | This is why I don't look down on blue pillers: Guy gently breaks up with his unstable short-term girlfriend after she WRECKS New Year's Eve. Gets called everything from "selfish" to "sociopath" in the comments.Yeah, good clarification. Just wanted to make sure people didn't get the impression that he handled the situation correctly. The other related point is that the top posts shaming him are completely oblivious to the bullshit motivation of the girl. She is not opening up her heart by telling him she loves him. She is not telling him she was abused as a sign of her trust. Her motives are completely selfish and transparent. Maybe white knights just have some disease of the mind that proscribes the b… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/01/14 01:59 AM |
| 6 | This is why I don't look down on blue pillers: Guy gently breaks up with his unstable short-term girlfriend after she WRECKS New Year's Eve. Gets called everything from "selfish" to "sociopath" in the comments.No, his mistakes are too numerous to even list. He was enabling her poor behavior by rewarding her attention seeking behavior with more attention! It's difficult for me to think of a situation where continually asking a girl if things are alright is a good move. At most ask once, then completely ignore her until she tells you otherwise. Another option is to reframe her behavior or cheer her up by changing up the mood IF you have a clue what is bothering her and you know it's just a temporary bli… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/01/14 11:55 PM |
| 1 | I only seem to attract betas. What can I do to attract a higher caliber man?1 Improve your looks 2 Lower your standards | /r/askTRP | 01/01/14 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Big shit test passed but I'm unsure how best to proceed from here.You already had some great responses so I will just add something that I think was missed. If you want to continue seeing this girl on a regular basis, incidents like this are perfect opportunities for explicitly setting boundaries. She tried and failed to take the power in the relationship. You held your frame perfectly and she was putty in your hands. You could have: made it clear such manipulation is unacceptable suggested different ways she can make it up to you In my opinion it is a clear s… | /r/askTRP | 01/01/14 07:05 PM |
| 1 | How about a fail report instead of a field report?This is why I like reading Krauser's blog. He does mix in some reports where he almost gets the lay and analyses what happened. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/12/13 04:26 PM |
| 3 | Interesting science on introversion/extroversion and how one can become the otherI used to think this until I realized the tiredness came from being passive and overwhelmed with absorbing information. I get an extra boost of energy when I have an active role in the conversation despite my tendency for introversion. Be the centre of attention and you will also gain momentum in a social setting. | /r/TheRedPill | 31/12/13 02:44 PM |
| 4 | DON JON: A blue/red pill movie. My reviewJust saw the movie and I think you nailed it. His experience with women just does not match reality. Since when are bar chicks reluctant about giving head? Even taking into account that he is a contextual alpha (bartender), I found his frame to be pathetically weak for someone who consistently bangs 8's. Other things I didn't like about the movie: The pickup attempt was a bit weird. He got blown out and then tracked her down. There is all of 0.1% chance that a girl would agree to meet up with hi… | /r/TheRedPill | 31/12/13 06:48 AM |
| 3 | Why is a man who rejected me still basically acting like my beta orbiter?He's insecure and sounds like the stereotypical nice guy. He does not know what he wants because of the conflict between his upbringing (societal conditioning) and his biological drive. He may not be asexual, but he has repressed his drive. I find it strange you are attracted to him at all. It really seems like the genders here are reversed and you are trying to make a rational choice while he is looking for some magical spark. Dropping contact is your best option. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/12/13 06:23 AM |
| 10 | Flakers gonna flake. I'm having trouble getting this girl to meet up even though she insists on meeting up.Forget this particular girl. In the future, if a girl flakes on you, don't get angry. She will either reinitiate in a day or two after you ignore her, or you can send a joke as a reply. "Lost track of the time washing your hair?" Best replies are situational (that one is not great, just off the top of my head). Do not give ultimatums ever. If a girl flakes without an excuse, just downgrade her. LTR -> Plate -> ONS -> Next. Do not tell her about it, she will find out after she sleeps with you. Sp… | /r/askTRP | 28/12/13 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Need Alternatives to SquatsCame here to say the same. I also had some knee aches from squats and it went away after I adjusted my technique by making sure: I went low enough Taking a wider angle (toes pointing out wards) Keeping back properly arched | /r/TheRedPill | 26/12/13 08:55 PM |
| 17 | A PUA, MRA and Feminist take on an audience of feminists.Agreed that Ross is a pioneer. It was common to talk about going to pick up girls as "sarging" and the term was coined after the name of Ross's cat. The thing is that most of what he did was based on NLP and he never ever achieved an alpha mindset. There was a pickup challenge he was involved in I think with the Project Hollywood crew (TylerDurden, Mystery, possibly Papa and Style) and Ross just made a beta fool of himself. His frame was obviously not that strong. I think what he discovered on h… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/13 05:18 AM |
| 5 | Have to wingman a friend for first time, how does this work?I'd say the basics are to have clear ground rules. You should expect to go your separate ways at the end of the night. Do not engage him once he is isolated with his girl. Do not validate the girl's behavior at all. If the three of you are in conversation and he says something semi-mean (takeaway), she will turn to you to talk her up. Ignore her so that he can run his game. Your most important role is to engage obstacles. This means having a friendly conversation with anyone who may be with her.… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/13 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Updating the GlossaryCompletely right. Thanks for clarifying. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/13 04:28 AM |
| 3 | Updating the GlossaryLMR: Last Minute Resistance A false barrier sometimes put up by women just prior to sex. Often caused by ASD (Anti-slut Defense). | /r/TheRedPill | 23/12/13 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Updating the GlossaryFWB: Friend with Benefits Also FB: (Fuck Buddy) | /r/TheRedPill | 23/12/13 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Updating the GlossaryHSE/LSE: High/Low Self-esteem | /r/TheRedPill | 23/12/13 08:22 PM |
| 3 | Updating the GlossaryBPD: Bipolar disorder | /r/TheRedPill | 23/12/13 08:20 PM |
| 6 | Updating the GlossaryUnicorn: Mythical creature; an attractive woman who does not act like other attractive women. Maybe she has reigned in her hypergamy and has a strong measure of self-awareness. Very rare. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/12/13 08:17 PM |
| 5 | Don't drop your guard..shit tests are everywhere.The other explanation is: Red flag with fucking fireworks going off. Congratulations, you have found yourself a dark triad female. Except then she wouldn't be confiding her schemes to anyone. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/12/13 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Is it ok or recommended to jokingly tell a FWB that she is ugly with no makeup? It's true though.I'd frame it differently. Definitely you can have some fun with it if she shows up without makeup, but you should set boundaries and make it clear you expect the women in your life to take care of themselves (health-wise), dress well, and wear makeup. Your best bet is to tell a story about another girl you met who showed up without makeup, wearing running shoes etc... Tell her what a turnoff it was and ask her how can you respect a woman who doesn't respect herself? A couple days ago I reconnect… | /r/TheRedPill | 22/12/13 01:48 AM |
| 1 | AMA With Red Pill Mods SoftHarem and RedPillSchool, ask us anything.What was the inflection point for you when you changed from accepting TRP intellectually vs actually internalising it? I find I've really improved at frame control, recognising and dealing with shit tests, setting boundaries, etc... But I still have to work hard to deal with big picture issues. I feel like I'm still chasing unicorns and though I'm not prone to one-itis anymore, I tend to treat women as friends first, making it difficult to establish a sexual frame. It either happens on the first… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/12/13 07:15 PM |
| 1 | What would TRP do?You're in Canada. They want to dismiss you without cause and are offering severance because employment law in this country strongly favors the employee. It will look really bad if they say without cause and then turn around and change their mind. It's almost impossible to fire someone if they fight it. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/12/13 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Go One Level DeeperFor me, the post was not at all about playing to the girl, it was about building value. The actual mechanism used was music, but it could have just as easily been game. The allegory was actually well done. I especially liked the parallels between someone who just plays tunes (lines) and the musician (pua). Keep in mind the focus was not on the girl but on the craft. I think there's a fine line between offering value and supplicating, and sometimes the only difference is the motivation. | /r/TheRedPill | 19/12/13 03:31 AM |
| 1 | What would TRP do?I can only give you some general advice: Read your employment contract carefully to see if they are following the procedures you signed up for. This will also answer your portfolio question. Also pay special attention to the notice period. In some places there is a legal minimum so for example you might be entitled to 4 weeks pay given that sufficient notice was not made. Make sure they are not undercutting that by offering less as severance. Above all, stay calm and do not get emotional. HR sho… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/12/13 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Are we as men not even supposed to talk about how easy the average woman has it in the dating world?I love it when I get a response I'm not expecting. It means there is an opportunity to learn something. In this case, your only mistake was identifying with the normal guy. If you had created a distinction between what normal guys do and what you do instead, you could have easily built some attraction or at the least have a fun conversation. You should make your part look effortless and natural and laugh at how most guys creep girls out by buying them flowers, etc... | /r/TheRedPill | 17/12/13 03:10 AM |
| 1 | Responding to Questions and Statements That Imply a ResponseI think you are seeing a lot of needy girls. Do you think there is something about your frame that is bringing out this behaviour? Maybe the type of girl you are seeing (young)? Ignore, redirect, agree and amplify. Stop texting anything about how you feel. Texts should either be rapport-building (make her feel good towards you) or logistical (set up the next meet). Read some Roissy.. He has lots of posts on texting. Here are some go to responses: nice gay ... =====|) | /r/askTRP | 16/12/13 04:35 AM |
| 3 | Advice for keeping sex/feelings separated?Feelings and emotional bonds generally form with prolonged contact. If you want to keep it casual, don't meet more than once per week. | /r/askTRP | 16/12/13 04:17 AM |
| 4 | TRP Theory and MoralityAlpha and morality are orthogonal. Do not confuse the two. It's a common mistake to assign whatever traits you value to Alpha as you feel it should attract women. The truth is you can be a complete douchebag and still be alpha. http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/20/alpha/ | /r/askTRP | 13/12/13 11:50 AM |
| 2 | Speaking slower and HumorI also have to be concious of how quickly I speak. For some reason I naturally slow down when I'm on stage. I'd go the opposite way from RedPillD, I think speaking slower is more important, otherwise you are using your humor as a crutch. Try prioritizing slow speech for a few months and see what the differences are. You can always go back to your old style. It really depends on your style of humor, but when it comes to women I think slow, deadpan, lots of pauses, etc... works best. Save the zing… | /r/askTRP | 13/12/13 11:44 AM |
| 4 | "Do you want me to be your girlfriend?" How do I tactfully answer this question?Yeah the amused mastery by trplurker is a good response. The delivery is important though. I would do it with a serious tone, but laugh with my eyes and have a cocky smirk. I want to come across ambiguous, not goofy. You can also try: "Why? Do you think you'd make a good girlfriend?" <--- Get her to qualify herself to you. Tell a story about what your relationship would be like. Make it funny and make sure you end up on top. (Future pacing) "Yeah, you could totally be my girlfriend. We'd go to t… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/12/13 10:34 AM |
| 4 | "Do you want me to be your girlfriend?" How do I tactfully answer this question?This is an opportunity to be playful. Calling her out does not improve your standing. Your beliefs don't need to be verbalised and communicating explicitly is losing frame. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/12/13 10:28 AM |
| 3 | Releasing the funnyIt's 99% delivery. Why do you think you need to be funny? Funny will not get you laid. Ever. If you do want to analyse some humour, check out Comedy Writing Secrets by Melvin Helitzer. Don't think this has anything to do with TRP though. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/12/13 10:19 AM |
| 7 | How do you guys respond to girl game?I think you're misreading her comment completely. She sees herself as a cheating slut. You're the good man who got away and she ended up unhappy. Now her days are filled with regret. If you really wanted to respond to this (I wouldn't) that is the frame I would set. I actually have used a variant on this: "You don't believe you're good enough for me." And months later had her bring it up and agree with it. Clearly caused some deep-seated psychological damage. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/12/13 10:10 AM |
| 3 | How to respond to this?Yeah, that's better than outright answering her, but humor serves a better purpose: It de-escalates the situation - she will look silly if she gets angry and you can already tell that she is confrontational. It makes her lose status because you are not taking her seriously. Maintaining frame in this situation means rewarding the guy for asking you for permission for a beer and punishing the girl for her presumption. I still prefer my original response, but if you want to go with confrontation I'… | /r/askTRP | 13/12/13 01:00 AM |
| 3 | How to respond to this?Disagree with this respone. Don't explain or justify yourself unless you're being cheeky/humorous. You're much better off coming up with a nonsense reponse. Here's one I read here recently: I can't, because I lost both hands in the war. | /r/askTRP | 13/12/13 12:30 AM |
| 4 | Avoid "herd resistance" (group cockblocking) at parties/group outingsJust want to add: don't fall into the trap of staying with the same girl the whole night even if she is receptive! Bounce from group to group. If you are in conversation with a girl for longer than 15 minutes and you can't extract (upstairs, couch, etc...) then just say "Let's go on an adventure" or "Let's go meet some more people" Then ditch her and reinitiate later (after talking to other girls). Even better if she reinitiates - nice IOI so you can see which girls are most receptive. Since you… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/12/13 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Hoping I could get some advice from you guys.What do you tell yourself to get over any approach anxiety you have? Don't dwell too much on AA. You are your own worst enemy here. Just assume it will never go away and go up to people to talk to them. Stop thinking it of as doing approaches. The terminology gets in the way since you build up a false image of what that means. Is it possible to be successful in the sexual marketplace when you hold a general disdain for women's nature? If not, see question 4. Yes, but you'd be happier to make you… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/12/13 05:58 PM |
| 1 | The Airing of Grievances: Feel free to criticize others, the world, or even yourself hereThere are too many blue pill examples being posted to TRP. The questions on AskTRP are too repetitive. With the addition of the AskTRP subreddit, we no longer need a flare for it on the main board. I'd love to have it replaced with something like tactics. TRP seems to have a lot of high-level information (strategy/theory) and it also has a lot of low-level showcases (field reports/examples). I think what's missing is something to bridge the gap so that people can immediately apply what they lear… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/12/13 04:43 PM |
| 3 | Social Interactions - Your handshake and first impressionsActually, there's a lot more subtlety about handshakes so I'm glad you brought it up. There are regional differences even just within the US. I remember reading a book about some of these. New Yorkers tend to be strong and brief - single pump. I think it was in California where it just runs really extended, and I'm sure you've run into people doing the whole right hand shake, and then bringing their other hand into it, palming your hand from the outside as well. You can signal interest by extend… | /r/TheRedPill | 12/12/13 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you wait for your friends to ask about TRP or do you do them a favour and put it in their hand and wait for them to swallow?I want to second this. I also don't think the whole Matrix analogy is a good way of explaining it. People only understand Redpill vs Bluepill after they've been brought to the point of making a choice. It's much better to have them share stories and then interpret them in a red pill fashion, and ask if that makes sense, or if it explains any other behavior they've encountered. Suddenly they will start having these ephiphanies. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/12/13 05:12 AM |
| 2 | Has Justin Bieber been reading RoK?Sad but true. Read this article: http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/20/alpha/ | /r/TheRedPill | 12/12/13 05:07 AM |
| 2 | Mangina I know posted this on FB. This guy has been friendzoned by a chubby girl for years.I loved that one, because it's actually only ever likely to be applied to a woman by other women. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/12/13 04:51 AM |
| 10 | Is anyone else angry with their father for not imparting TRP values?What makes you think he knows? TRP did not exist when you were growing up. If he's beta, he doesn't know; if he's a natural alpha, you should have learned from his example. Even in the best of all possible worlds, he might have been ready to teach you, but maybe you weren't ready to learn. Take responsibility for your own education in this regard. | /r/askTRP | 11/12/13 11:33 PM |
| 3 | On alpha-widows, disrespect and the exI think it happens a bit quick, but I would go with: "Friend of yours?" "Cool. Introduce me." "How do you know each other?" (To the guy) This is purely to get more information about the dynamics of the situation. Does she lie? Does she hesitate? Who does she introduce to who first? How does the guy respond to the last question? Does he look at her before responding? This is better done in the second part (where the guy approached the two of you to hug her) rather than going up to a table.. You'v… | /r/askTRP | 11/12/13 11:19 PM |
| 11 | 6 year old demonized at school. Accused of sexual harassment for consensually kissing a girl (girl is not in trouble).And confused. Don't forget confused. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/13 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Monday Field ReportsFriday: Went out to an xmas party at a bar. Organizer invited me, met some of the people before once or twice. Lots of convo, friendly bunch, easy to open everyone. Party was maybe 40-50 people. One girl and I ended up in conversation. Just natural vibing, nothing canned. After maybe 15 minutes I suggested we go meet some more people. Some guy grabbed her and said he had to show her something. I let it go, thinking I'd talk to her again later. Bounced from group to group kept my energy high. The… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/13 07:00 PM |
| 1 | What have you done that reduced flaking the most ? Especially in daytime.Because that's what flaking means. Maybe post some examples of texts you've sent out to schedule a meeting? | /r/askTRP | 08/12/13 09:35 PM |
| 1 | "Women in Love" is ridiculousLink to the article for those interested. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/12/13 04:14 PM |
| 3 | /r/toronto discovers group of men practicing cold approaches at the mall. Based on the responses you'd think they were coordinating mass rapeThe mall is a good location. People in Canada often go to hang out at the mall. The problem is the canned opener that every guy was using. But if they want to practice getting blown out, the nightclub is even better. Not sure they thought this through when it came to finding a low-pressure daytime location. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/12/13 12:29 AM |
| 8 | What have you done that reduced flaking the most ? Especially in daytime.Heh, I forgot all about that. I think the key is subtlety. Don't send: Hey, just reminding you about our date tomorrow, you'll be there right? Do send: Wear something blue | /r/askTRP | 06/12/13 03:38 PM |
| 5 | What have you done that reduced flaking the most ? Especially in daytime.Sounds obvious, but send a reminder text. I used to think it was showing neediness, but actually cut flakes in half. | /r/askTRP | 06/12/13 01:15 PM |
| -1 | The "Introduction" on the sidebar needs to be revisited.No, we do not need to build consensus. Those are weasel words. The haters who come here do not want to understand and certainly don't spend their time reading our side bar. On their rare visit, they will scan the list of title posts for any that stand out to confirm their own beliefs. We do not owe them anything. Your entire post screams concern shaming. | /r/TheRedPill | 05/12/13 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Fuck Me Pumps - Amy Winehouse (Song Injected with Red Pill Truth)In the morning you're vexed, He's onto the next, And you didn't even get no text. | /r/TheRedPill | 05/12/13 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Utilising the Dark Triad – MachiavellianismThe modern office example was worth keeping, even with the added length. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/12/13 07:23 PM |
| 1 | How did you sucessfully keep a booty call?Never meet more than once a week. | /r/askTRP | 30/11/13 06:29 AM |
| 2 | "Man Cave" RP or BPBlue Pill. /thread | /r/askTRP | 30/11/13 06:08 AM |
| 2 | TRP Hall of Fame Nominees?I don't know why you're getting downvoted. I would also consider Berlusconi. Yes he's corrupt. And I don't agree with everything he's done (prostitutes, etc...) But he has a strong frame. His kids respect him and defend him to the media. And I love that when he was asked about sleeping around he responded with: "When asked if they would like to have sex with me, 30% of women said, 'Yes', while the other 70% replied, 'What, again?'" | /r/TheRedPill | 29/11/13 05:52 PM |
| 4 | Kiss-Close Resistance - What mistakes did I make?---"I really like your hair though, what are the odds of me grabbing a fistfull of that before the nights over?" Good start, but the structure needs a bit of work. You should either be aiming for deflection (indirect) or escalation (direct) depending on your style and context. Here are a couple of alternatives depending on the situation: I really like your hair, did you wash it recently? (neg) I really like your hair, but you're gonna have to work on your attitude missie. (qualifier) I really li… | /r/askTRP | 29/11/13 10:38 AM |
| 5 | Kiss-Close Resistance - What mistakes did I make?If she's your ex, it doesn't matter does it? It's something to watch out for, but context is important. Also depends on why. You can ask a girl directly and she will even tell you "I like to be the centre of attention" which is a bad reason to have all male friends. | /r/askTRP | 29/11/13 10:18 AM |
| 6 | Kiss-Close Resistance - What mistakes did I make?---Freezing her out? Is this like stopping all kino/attention? Yes, exactly. Even more explicitly, you can go on your computer to answer your email, etc... Make yourself some tea, whatever. Just go about your business like she isn't there. Maybe save this for the LMR you will possibly get with this girl after the kiss. ---Understood. What specific red flags are you picking up on that this is not relationship material? I meant that if she is showing the signs I mentioned, it's not a good idea to … | /r/askTRP | 28/11/13 08:41 PM |
| 23 | Kiss-Close Resistance - What mistakes did I make?You're actually doing really well considering how many shit tests she is throwing at you. Yes, there could have been some better responses, but hard to think in the heat of the moment. The two parts where I think you could have improved was when she was talking about other men and the lack of escalation at the end. Did you try freezing her out? You're doing well with your playful responses, but maybe you are a little too forgiving. More push, less pull. At the very least you should be breaking e… | /r/askTRP | 28/11/13 07:32 PM |
| 1 | When you go monogamous with a woman, do you tell her you won't allow her cheating?What do you think monogamy means? I don't see what you gain by saying you won't allow her to cheat. If she cheats it's not a monogamous relationship is it? | /r/askTRP | 28/11/13 03:00 AM |
| 4 | Career AdviceYou've got two choices: Take a break if you can afford it. I was in your position once, and the best decision of my life was to save up and then go travelling for a year. After a year of avoiding electronics, the interest came back and I was able to enjoy it again. BTW, the loss of "passion" often comes from either having poor management or being assigned unchallenging drudge work. If you've been in the same position for three years, try switching it up by finding a different employer. Your seco… | /r/TheRedPill | 28/11/13 02:49 AM |
| 19 | Cheating whores and what you can do to help.Are you looking for a relationship? With this particular girl? If you are looking for a relationship, then I think it makes perfect sense to filter girls, though many here would argue that to avoid "girls who cheat" you may have to avoid: nightclubs, western women, planet earth. If you're not looking for a relationship, you don't owe this girl's bf who is a stranger anything. If the woman is part of your social circle, I'd abstain for practical reasons (drama). If the boyfriend is a friend, or e… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/11/13 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Saving Science Fiction from Strong Female CharactersOn the topic of Snow Crash, Stephenson's Reamde is almost unreadable because of characterization, heavily reinforced by BP dogma. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/11/13 11:51 PM |
| 3 | If I were to do a survey study to confirm or deny some of the claims central to TRP, what questions would the survey need to answer?Just a few off the top of my head, mostly for women, but could apply to both genders if you reword. Have you dated multiple people concurrently? What do you think is the man's role in the relationship? What do you think is the woman's role in the relationship? In your most passionate relationship: Who paid for the dates? Was he supportive, or did you feel like you were under the microscope? How many texts did he send for every one of yours In your most recent relationship: Same questions as abov… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/11/13 11:28 PM |
| 4 | Women are attracted to the leading male character in a movieUnless it's a RomCom, in which case they identify with the male lead, but would never actually feel attraction for such a loser in real life. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/11/13 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Changing your beliefs about yourself is the key to changing your mindset and improving your inner gameGreat post, saving for later. Only issue I have is the title implies a change in belief is the key. Actually, I think a change in behavior is more fundamental. Your post goes on to address how to change behavior, but just putting that distinction out there. Your beliefs won't stick unless they are followed by action. Taking action will yield reference experiences that automatically modify your beliefs. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/11/13 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Directly asking a female if you are in the friend zoneIf you ask a question like this, you are just confirming your status. Never say any of the following to a girl: If I asked you out, would you say yes? Do you like me? In that way? Will you be my girlfriend? I think I am falling for you. There are several reasons why these phrases should never leave your mouth: Shows lack of confidence Gives her all the power Makes her uncomfortable (while draining any sexual tension!) Too explicit I'll just elaborate that last point. Women only rely on explicit … | /r/TheRedPill | 20/11/13 05:17 AM |
| 2 | Where to find likeminded friends?Agreed, there are dedicated boards for this kind of stuff. Suggest OP does a search there rather than on a general purpose board like reddit. | /r/askTRP | 19/11/13 03:47 PM |
| 1 | On Netflix now, Bruce Willis, Meryl Streep, Goldie Hawn, star in one of the best examples of Red Pill theory portrayed through film.Interesting, I started to watch Red 2 last week. If you want to see Bruce Willis as a beta, look no further. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/11/13 03:21 AM |
| 2 | shit test or not??LSE girl + huge red flag. You had two winning moves: (Optional) Instead of "escalating" to your suggestion, you could have instead escalated to the bathroom. (Mandatory) NEXT. | /r/askTRP | 17/11/13 09:16 PM |
| 12 | LTR Shit Tests?This is a good question, and I hope you get a lot more responses. To answer your first question, the shit tests never stop. A couple things to consider: Are the shit tests about stuff that is actually important to her or is she just doing a power play? Be careful about creep.. If you give too much, she will just keep pushing. Be especially careful about doing anything as a sort of favor, because if it can be repeated she will stop appreciating any sort of effort on your part. Remember that there… | /r/askTRP | 16/11/13 02:48 AM |
| 1 | My first quasi-date. Didn't understand any of her behavior.I can actually read the situation quite easily. What happened is that she was into you, but you didn't pull the trigger. There's nothing you can do to salvage the situation with this particular girl. 10% chance she will contact you down the line in like 8 months but forget about her and go after other girls. Spend some time learning to read body language. She gave you a go signal and you didn't go for it. That opportunity is a limited time offer. It can be quite subtle but when you hear one of t… | /r/askTRP | 15/11/13 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Rebooting my social life (in Japan)Metropolis will be free on news stands in night clubs, at language schools, hostels, etc... Basically anywhere foreigners might drop by. Few other things that I've personally tried: Toastmasters is big in Tokyo and salsa is also popular. | /r/askTRP | 14/11/13 01:01 AM |
| 5 | To my fellow newbies who overanalyze:Interesting, I did a lot of Vipassana, and I found that it does give me a Zen attitude, but it also blanks my mind. So rather than having nothing to say because of overanalysis, I actually just blank and observe myself having nothing to say. Sure, it keeps me from getting nervous internally, but to an outside observer, there's no difference. Is there some trick to just focusing on the right things rather than sensations (as Vipassana teaches)? | /r/TheRedPill | 14/11/13 12:59 AM |
| 5 | Rebooting my social life (in Japan)Hey, I was in Japan for a few months last year. It's actually not that hard to meet people. For nightlife, give Roppongi a try. It's not my favorite place, but you will find most foreigners gravitate there and there are plenty of Japanese too. For me, the easiest place to start was language exchange. You either put up a profile, or just skim the latest people looking to learn English. Meet up with someone new and don't be afraid to drop people from your rotation - you will have people who want t… | /r/askTRP | 11/11/13 05:37 PM |
| 1 | How a dinner with a friend and two hamsters went wrong (awesome stuff)Yes, and girls are always confused, that's why they can never really cheat. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/11/13 08:50 PM |
| 5 | Interesting interaction with the feminine imperative while out with a date...It sounds like the plate was the one who was squirming so I think the intent wasn't so altruistic. My own take is that the woman was playing a sort of beta game. She was insinuating that because the man wasn't giving the plate compliments, she hadn't locked him down yet. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/11/13 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Interesting interaction with the feminine imperative while out with a date...Interesting, I've had a similar experience where I met up with my gf's friend and the three of us had dinner. She wanted us to stay and meet some new guy she was seeing. Keep in mind I was just meeting her for the first time as well. So we decide to go for one drink and my gf asks me to carry her bag. As a rule, I don't do this -- though it's been an endless source of shit tests and I still haven't found the perfect solution. But what caught me off guard was her friend chiming in with her opinio… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/11/13 06:09 PM |
| 3 | A little information on Dave Sim, who identified the feminist infiltration of society back in 1994.This is actually very good. Thanks for posting this link. I'm about halfway through the first part of the essay and it's definitely red pill. EDIT: Having read all 5, I think it's better to characterize him as MGTOW. He couldn't reconcile desire for objective reality with sex and relied on abstinence to give him clarity. There is also a heavy emphasis on MRA. I'll reprint his list of impossible things to believe before breakfast which is sprinkled throughout the essays because I think they are v… | /r/TheRedPill | 30/10/13 05:57 PM |
| 1 | The Guiness ad for beta malesI don't know, I find this American beer commercial to have cutesy music and I like it. Wouldn't drink the beer though. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/10/13 03:21 PM |
| 1 | My fiancée is telling me to fuck other womenNah, saying she fucked is just theoretical. That would defeat the purpose of a "lesser" confession. She'll cry rape at that point. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/10/13 02:56 AM |
| 6 | How To Get A Bitch by Patrice O'NealLast Minute Resistance. You're in bed, almost naked, and the girl says "We really shouldn't be doing this. I'm not that kind of girl." | /r/TheRedPill | 29/10/13 07:58 PM |
| 3 | No charges filed in alleged Uptown rapeThat is also my take on this. Depends on the outcry from the feminists over this "injustice". | /r/TheRedPill | 29/10/13 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Spot Prices, Forward Contracts, and Maturity Transformation in the Sexual MarketplaceReally good analysis. This is perfect for Red Pill Theory flare. I bet there are lots more parallels that haven't been explored yet. Hypergamy as a vanilla option? Think about it, a woman entering a monogamous relationship commits (pays the premium), and as her partner's relative SMV increases over time she is gaining value relative to what's available in the open market - unless someone who is undervalued comes along in which case she trades up. And if you think about it, The Wall is really a k… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/10/13 12:06 AM |
| 8 | What to do in the face of a nuclear shit test?Yeah, it's not a shit test. LMR like other people have commented. Don't beat down on yourself for it. Just learn how to deal with this in the future. The pleading was a big mistake so there's no recovery for this one particular girl. There are lots of posts on this topic, including a recent one I responded to here. | /r/askTRP | 28/10/13 10:14 PM |
| 13 | My fiancée is telling me to fuck other womenNot sure why you'd want to, but the best way would be to convince her to confess to some lesser thing. Just remember, if she says she kissed, that means she gave a BJ. If she says she gave a BJ, that means she fucked. If she says she fucked, that means gang bang. | /r/TheRedPill | 28/10/13 03:46 AM |
| 3 | The math of the 80/20 ruleThere's an infinite way to apply the Pareto principle to dating: 80% of your satisfaction comes from 20% of the women you date. 80% of your lays come from 20% of your approaches. 20% of whatever you are doing to get the girl is resulting in 80% of your success These are all actionable, because if you can figure out the common thread, you can get more satisfaction, more lays, and more success with less effort. I think your math is completely off BTW. Let's say you start off with 1000 men. The top… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/10/13 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill Book Reviews. If you have some of the books written by the more prolific writers of the RP world/Manosphere, Post their reviews/critiques here.I bought the Kindle edition just because it's not conveniently available where I am right now. Solves the small text problem since I can adjust the font. I've been reading his blog for a few years so a lot of the information is review, but it's really good to have it all in one place and the examples have been expanded. I find I can't read it for more than an hour because the information is very dense. Lots of things being thrown at you and if you have no background in the terminology I think yo… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/10/13 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill Book Reviews. If you have some of the books written by the more prolific writers of the RP world/Manosphere, Post their reviews/critiques here.Deida is great. Just reading the chapter headings will give you insights into what you should be paying attention to. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/10/13 08:26 PM |
| 21 | What do you do when girls ask you for favors?Default response (credit David D'Angelo) "I could, but I won't." Always think about whether you would do the favor for a guy friend. She wants you to buy her a drink, hold her purse, drive her somewhere, then go with the above or the ridiculous ones ITT which are even better. If she's creating an opportunity to be with you (like homework) make her do something for you first: "I could, but you have to feed me first" or "only if you dress sexy" Key takeaway: Do not supplicate. When it comes to wom… | /r/askTRP | 27/10/13 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Musings from An Intermediate Red Piller and a Thank YouQuality post. I'm curious about the timeline you experienced. Obviously, it's a lifelong process, but what caused you to have some of these epiphanies? | /r/TheRedPill | 27/10/13 04:56 PM |
| 7 | Such a badass response from Captain America in the new trailerYeah that was good.. If you want to see two movies in the same vein: Check out Dredd for a man on a mission. The best thing for me about this movie is the complete absence of compromise and blue pill thought. Also, somewhat overlooked, Guy Pearce is the epitome of C&F in Lockout. These are obviously action movies.. Would love to hear more similar recommendations. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/10/13 02:51 AM |
| 3 | TRP TheorysSuggest you read the recurring Field Report thread on Mondays. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/10/13 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Confidence and ArroganceArrogance is thinking you are better than other people. Confidence is knowing that you are. | /r/askTRP | 23/10/13 05:50 PM |
| 1 | A Unifying Theory of Why Women Earn LessYou can click on the two links to read the actual study (48 pages) and the related experiment (34 pages). | /r/TheRedPill | 22/10/13 04:37 AM |
| 3 | Making Mistakes after TRPFor me, I think the terminology we use is part of the problem. You get into this technical mindset. You "Do an approach" or "Open a set". Reading so much material actually interferes with your learning because you have these preconceived notions of what it all means without any real reference experiences. Once you "open a few sets" you realize that, oh, it's just talking to people. So the advice I have is this: Stop reading material. Go and talk to women until you hit a sticking point and you do… | /r/askTRP | 22/10/13 01:14 AM |
| 2 | TRP and Learning GameReally like the screening post you made. We had a thread about red flags not too long ago and there's some really good ones on your list that I didn't think of. | /r/TheRedPill | 21/10/13 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Resistance from a PlateIt's actually TBP, but yes you are on the right track. | /r/askTRP | 21/10/13 12:45 PM |
| 4 | Resistance from a PlateAn explicit denial means that she has been thinking about sex with you. "We're not having sex tonight" = "We could be having sex tonight" After all, woman's prerogative. Based on his other comments, the girl isn't shutting down every attempt at physical escalation. If that was the case, I'd agree it's time to move on. The only way to make someone do something is to make them want to do it. So your job is to make her want it. | /r/askTRP | 20/10/13 05:36 PM |
| 24 | Shit test: "I'm fine""Great." Smile, go back to sipping your latte. Do not dig into her emotional state. You are buying into her little game and setting up negative anchors. Wait until she blows up (and she will), and then put your foot down that she said she was fine, you don't have time for her games. You should lay down the same rules you do with your plates. If you're in a relationship, you don't have to kick her to the curb. Just let her know that her behavior is not acceptable. Punish her (perhaps by withdrawi… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/10/13 04:57 PM |
| 11 | Resistance from a PlateIt's not the aggression that is the problem, it's that your push-pull needs better calibration. There's no danger that she wants to put you in the friend zone because you haven't been sexual with her - that would indicate a need for more aggression. My suggestion would be to escalate more gradually, and when she resists pull back just a little a bit and tease her some more. You did ok with "That's fine" which was at odds with your physical escalation, but you could have done better. Here's a cou… | /r/askTRP | 20/10/13 04:43 PM |
| 2 | Go ahead and have a field day breaking this one down. I don't even know where to begin, but I'm certain you guys would enjoy this.Yeah, Audition was my first. No idea what I was getting into. I still remember scenes from Ichi the Killer and Visitor Q.. Can't think of a country other than Japan where something like this might be produced. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/10/13 01:01 AM |
| 2 | Go ahead and have a field day breaking this one down. I don't even know where to begin, but I'm certain you guys would enjoy this.Takashi Miike's Audition comes to mind. FYI, don't watch this movie with a girl. Speaking from experience there. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/10/13 10:37 PM |
| 3 | Go ahead and have a field day breaking this one down. I don't even know where to begin, but I'm certain you guys would enjoy this.There is already a much better documentary about the topic of host clubs: The Great Happiness Space You can watch it on youtube here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxs8lGis6wI Probably one of the most red pill documentaries I have seen. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/10/13 10:13 PM |
| 3 | Being direct can be a good thingIt's a power play. If someone invites you over for dinner at a particular time, you don't come half an hour earlier. She wanted to see how accommodating he would be. May not matter in the long run, but a hoop or some teasing would be appropriate. Just not sure which direction to go since some may backfire: accuse her of being eager tell her to bring some ingredient, etc... "cool, then you can help with prep. I'll put you to work." | /r/TheRedPill | 12/10/13 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Friend telling girl that i had a date with that Im nice but she doesnt trust me because I am a playerTop-notch post. Really explains frame better than any other thing I've read. | /r/TheRedPill | 12/10/13 11:38 AM |
| 1 | Is a future with this girl even possible?Most of the points you've brought up are irrelevant. I don't see any red flags. However, you're still young, so it's very early to be looking for a wife especially in today's climate. Just two points of caution: don't do a long distance relationship, and remember that your current mission is to finish school so don't put the relationship ahead of that. | /r/askTRP | 11/10/13 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Confession Of A Bar Star- Message posted on a FB pageI think you meant to flare this with the blue pill. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/10/13 06:09 PM |
| 2 | BLUE PILL + RED PILL EXAMPLE: Beta gets married to malleable atheist/catholic polish wannabe girlfriendYes, but he's also clueless. One of his comments: Ofcourse things change when we have a baby. But I am not going to be one of those loser husbands that only get to have sex on their Birthdays. Gf said when she does get further along she will still keep blowing me. Good thing he managed to negotiate this point /s Also, don't forget the waterworks. I think the only way this could be worse is if she was a single mommy. I really wonder how the comments would have changed in reaction. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/10/13 08:33 AM |
| 3 | BLUE PILL + RED PILL EXAMPLE: Beta gets married to malleable atheist/catholic polish wannabe girlfrienddidn't give in to her demands I think that's exactly what happened. If he kept his frame it's only because it was never a good one to begin with. He was going to wait for kids for 5 years and now they're trying right away. That's a huge change in his life plan. Keep in mind they've only been together for 4 months. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/10/13 12:42 AM |
| 8 | BLUE PILL + RED PILL EXAMPLE: Beta gets married to malleable atheist/catholic polish wannabe girlfriendI agree with your analysis. However: Man, I hope he's just trolling because this is pathetic. No, it's quite average. He's actually ahead of the average because he got her to propose to him. She's going to be too old to leave him by the time their romance fizzles in a few years. But yes, this has many red flags. She earns more She's significantly older He completely lost his shit to her emotional manipulation Changed overnight from waiting for kids for another 5 years, to trying right away These… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/10/13 12:37 AM |
| 2 | My first quasi-date. Didn't understand any of her behavior.Hey, just want to say I can totally relate. I also avoid strip clubs, but going as a group with girls is one of the few times I really enjoyed myself. All the strippers sat down at our table and chatted us up (not just to get lap dances). One of the girls from our party got up and did a strip tease... Amateur hour, learned she was getting married following week, but whatever... Also, I am thinking of the first girl I got interested in and she played some of the same tricks. She turned out to be … | /r/askTRP | 09/10/13 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Dealing with a disrespectful attendantWhy are you wasting your time arguing with this woman? Your sarcasm comes off as weak and the passive aggressive nature is a habit that you will have to eliminate. Forget about putting your foot down; you need to be in control of your emotions. Stay chilled. She shows you disrespect because she doesn't respect you. You can't force someone to respect you. "No one else damaged the scale.. blah blah blah." "Cool." Don't respond to her bullshit. You're not her teacher or her daddy so it's not your j… | /r/askTRP | 08/10/13 10:42 PM |
| 11 | EXAMPLE: Women are malleable -- they will change their beliefs to adaptThe original post that was linked to also has a nugget of gold: Break it off so that she has a chance to find a husband before her looks go. How is this upvoted so highly, yet when I say I want a younger woman because she will look good is superficial? Seriously wtf? If you guys are saying that I am wasting her time because her looks/fertility will go bad soon, why the negative reaction when I say I don't want to marry a girl who's gonna quickly start looking worse. If we do break up later and h… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/10/13 08:33 PM |
| 12 | I want to be married but things are getting weirdHer crying is an attempt to manipulate you to bring things back to the way they used to be. Your third paragraph indicates that it is working. You have indicated that you've gotten stronger and more independent. It's time for the next step and that means being the leader in the relationship. Start setting boundaries and enforcing them. It seems like you are discussing everything and being very patient. If you have raised your value, the likely explanation for your four month attempt to explain e… | /r/askTRP | 08/10/13 07:41 PM |
| 2 | I was in another sub discussing Slut-Shaming. I would like your thoughts.Ok, on the topic of your response, you have to understand that 90% of women cannot parse hypotheticals. That means any hypothetical position you describe will automatically be taken to be your position. In a similar vein, you can post countless studies, deductive reasoning, and structured argument, but it will not matter because she will counter that with an anecdote from her "personal" experience (twice removed). Do not begin a sentence with "All I am saying is" because it weakens your argument… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/10/13 07:22 PM |
| 6 | High Level Theory: "World View Warfare is the name of the game and as been since the nazis."I noticed you didn't use the word frame until the last paragraph, but the whole post seems to me to be about establishing and holding your frame. I think it's definitely useful to approach this topic from a slightly different direction and appreciate some of the tips you shared to elevate our thinking. The key bit for me was that people are playing a game they simply don't understand. Lots of other content, I think it will take some time to digest. | /r/TheRedPill | 08/10/13 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Cockblocked by Redistribution: A Pick-up Artist in DenmarkArticle is horribly written and wish I'd read the byline before I started. "At the drop of a fedora". Really? Ad hominem much? I do find the topic fascinating though. Why are feminized societies immunized against game tactics? What would a successful strategy look like (NOT provider game)? I would argue that a redistribution of resources in the manner described is stupid for an awakened individual man who wants to get ahead, but is that kind of society really destined to self-destruct and what k… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/10/13 09:25 PM |
| 8 | No Excuses for Female Evil! - Philosopher Stefan Molyneux Points Out Hypocrisy Of Our Current Feminized Society (12:29)It's a good video and I agree with his ideas. That said, he could have used better arguments. The description of what could have happened was gratuitous. "could have lost an eye, could have lost both eyes, car could have been engulfed in flames".. Come on, do we really need this kind of appeal to emotions? Is he just catering to any women in the audience? Also, his refutal of the point that women abuse children more because they spend more time around children was poor. He made the point that me… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/10/13 05:52 PM |
| 2 | How I dealt with my last shit test.Nice, but don't use quotation marks if you are paraphrasing. Hoping you didn't actually use those words because the whole talk is too long, structured, and logical. You set the boundaries, you don't have to explain them in detail. I'm guessing you just wrote it as a stream of conciousness. You could have just as easily said: "No, wtf are you smoking... your hot ass belongs to me. Nothing has changed." | /r/TheRedPill | 05/10/13 12:38 AM |
| 2 | My first quasi-date. Didn't understand any of her behavior.Good, you're ahead of 90% of the people then because you have a destination in mind. You can only break out of your shell through action and experience. I sympathise, because I do the same thing. Just a few hours ago, I got opened by some girls: "Hey, it's Justin Timberlake.. We thought you were Justin Timberlake." Now, at the time I just smiled and got on with getting to my destination. But really, I should have responded with "What? I'm a much better actor.".. blah blah blah. That relaxation w… | /r/askTRP | 04/10/13 11:48 PM |
| 3 | My first quasi-date. Didn't understand any of her behavior.That behavior...that's ME That's the problem. You've invested so much of your ego into this identity. The only way past it is to step out of your comfort zone. Worst case you go and hate it, and you have a story to tell the next girl. Just make sure to make it funny and not focus on the negatives. | /r/askTRP | 04/10/13 05:24 PM |
| 2 | There are obvious "dealbreakers" to avoid, but there are also subtle "red flags" that should be consideredYour third paragraph is exactly what I was getting at. Another related article: http://therationalmale.com/2013/02/26/the-crying-game/ I would emphasize that I am talking about LTRs here. You should treat crying as a shit test. Don't give her what she wants. Definitely do not blame yourself for whatever she is feeling. I've found it best to just sit there and let her get it out. Get her to laugh if you can (without belittling yourself - no self-depracating humor). If she crosses a line, you have… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/10/13 02:03 PM |
| 2 | How to find high value male friends.I wonder if by asking about how to make high value friends, you cued people to react negatively to your story. I think you did the right thing there for your situation. Just keep in mind that using that kind of tactic will eliminate this girl as a LTR. If he's really screwing up the vibe that badly, it should be obvious to see what he's doing wrong. You either have to get him to behave appropriately, or don't go out with him when you are trying to pick up. I do have a question though: If he was … | /r/TheRedPill | 04/10/13 01:39 PM |
| 2 | There are obvious "dealbreakers" to avoid, but there are also subtle "red flags" that should be consideredShe's supressing her emotions. Likely you will also get the silent treatment and could shoulder, etc... Very hard to break this state and likely you will just have to give her an hour or two before any sort of disagreement is settled. I've had a girlfriend tell me hours afterward that I should do anything I have to because she can't get out of that state on her own. It's not a deal breaker, but watch out.. because if she can suppress her emotions, she has potential to be even more manipulative. … | /r/TheRedPill | 04/10/13 01:10 AM |
| 6 | There are obvious "dealbreakers" to avoid, but there are also subtle "red flags" that should be consideredI agree with the dealbreakers though not sure about the EDM thing, just not my scene. For me I see the red flags as warning signs. Keep an eye out and if you see a bunch in a row, maybe don't invest so much effort and spin other plates. A couple that I personally look out for because of personal experience: Lack of strong father figure How she treats staff/help/others Lack of female friends Strict and overbearing focus on equality in all things Any kind of sexual abuse Inability/Unwillingness to… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/10/13 01:55 PM |
| 1 | More bullshit from the University of TorontoI recently read Against the Current by Isaiah Berlin, and it's the complete opposite in that the ideas are specifically examined against the backdrop of the times. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/09/13 07:19 PM |
| 2 | More bullshit from the University of TorontoThis was the required reading for my philosophy 101 class. Probably the only book I studied that I went on to recommend to others. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/09/13 07:16 PM |
| 5 | Proposing MarriageRoissy has an article that will answer all your questions: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/how-to-propose-like-an-alpha-male/ | /r/askTRP | 30/09/13 07:58 AM |
| 26 | Broke up, gf threatens to call the cops.Glad this worked out in the end, and appreciate you following up on your original post. I've been in a similar situation once or twice. What I've learned: Don't break up while you're both angry. Schedule a discussion at the latest possible day. "Let's talk about where our relationship is going on Thursday" Don't move in with a woman unless you have an exit strategy (trip to Japan actually works and one I've personally used). Even then, it's a bad idea because you lose your mystery and she gains … | /r/TheRedPill | 27/09/13 08:34 PM |
| 6 | Blue pill hateSimplify your writing, it's very elaborate and academic. Also, I don't see a lot of analysis here, this would fit better under Rant. | /r/TheRedPill | 27/09/13 04:24 PM |
| 2 | escalating kino? (x-post /r/asktrp)Assuming you mean the article by Vin DiCarlo. That really is the go-to guide. More recently KrauserPUA had an awesome video on his blog about this: http://krauserpua.com/2013/09/07/lean-in/ | /r/TheRedPill | 22/09/13 05:12 PM |
| 3 | "Dear r/relationships: Convince me that my girlfriend is a helpless infant who had no choice but to give her phone number to another man."This is a great point. In the unusual case that she really does have trouble dealing with persistent guys who want her number, then just hand her a script. I know one guy who always had his gf respond with "Let me ask my master if it's ok." and she would text him on the spot. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/09/13 12:48 AM |
| 1 | "Dear r/relationships: Convince me that my girlfriend is a helpless infant who had no choice but to give her phone number to another man."You just painted yourself into a corner. You've set yourself up as someone who needs her permission and allowed her to set boundaries on your actions. Having a set of "rules" like this that you both abide by is a recipe for failure because even if you obey your own boundaries, she will just backwards rationalize whatever she wants to do. | /r/TheRedPill | 09/09/13 12:43 AM |
| 14 | She just doesn't get it. This debate goes in circles for hours! (Please do not participate)It's impossible to debate someone who can't even repeat what your position is. We had the same thing happen last month when one of the other subs asked what TRP is all about. Only thing I can suggest is that you need to frame the debate as debates are traditionally done: MOTION/PROPOSITION Argument FOR Argument AGAINST None of this "But this is what I believe and this is what you believe" and going back and forth and redefining the statement. Once a motion has been defined, all speakers are requ… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/09/13 07:02 PM |
| 2 | She lives through YOUR realityThe article referenced: In psych terms, frame is an often subconscious, mutually acknowledged personal narrative under which auspices people will be influenced. One’s capacity for personal decisions, choices for well-being, emotional investments, religious beliefs and political persuasions (amongst many others) are all influenced and biased by the psychological narrative ‘framework’ under which we are most apt to accept as normalcy. A simpler description might be: A frame is how you consider a s… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/09/13 09:08 PM |
| 5 | Hit in the face by entitled princess - How to react?Chances are something happened while you weren't paying attention and she blamed you. Maybe someone grabbed her ass, whatever. Only thing I can think of is to step back and say "Why EXACTLY did you do that?" It may interrupt her pattern and force her to explain herself. If that doesn't work, your only option is to walk away. There is zero benefit to continuing the interaction. | /r/askTRP | 31/08/13 07:17 PM |
| 11 | Hit in the face by entitled princess - How to react?I let go both of her hands and step back like 2 feet, and raise my voice, "Seriously? Punch me again." Ignoring the white knighting, this is just escalating the situation. Make it clear from the outset you have a zero tolerance policy for physical violence, and stick to it. Mocking into submission will guarantee a repeat since she "got away with it". At the very least you should have said "Just for that, you can walk home." Then get in your car and drive away. Do not call her, do not answer her … | /r/askTRP | 31/08/13 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Is there a blog post about history of chivalry out in the manosphere?Here you go: http://therationalmale.com/2013/01/02/the-feminine-imperative-circa-1300/ Also more here: http://therationalmale.com/2013/03/27/hail-to-the-v/ | /r/askTRP | 29/08/13 10:43 AM |
| -1 | Hamsters shout sexual assault and creep over Russian "Boobsman"Going to have to disagree with you on this one. Especially since he's groping some of the women in front of their boyfriends and fiancé in one case. Shaking their hands afterwards! In an aggressive/dominant culture, the risk would be too high. Here's my best guess at an explanation: he has 3 or 4 really hot girls standing on the other side of the camera looking comfortable and providing all the social proof he needs to keep the fondlee from freaking out. The girl in the intro is clearly an accom… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/08/13 05:08 AM |
| 2 | Hamsters shout sexual assault and creep over Russian "Boobsman"Agree with your second point, but he didn't really give them a chance to decline. It's amazing what you can get away with, but I wouldn't recommend anyone who can't hold their frame try to follow his example. High risk approach especially depending on country. I met a guy in Australia who would do something similar. He'd find a couple of girls who were sitting down on a couch and just slide in between them and put his arm around both or on their legs. He says it works 80% of the time, but once i… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/08/13 04:25 AM |
| 3 | Question about texting girls.There was a great article on texting posted to TRP last month. http://www.girlschase.com/content/how-text-girl | /r/askTRP | 26/08/13 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Seems to be getting some contradictory advice, need clarification.Ok the "direct and honest" approach is called direct game, but it will not work for you once you are in the friend zone. The reason it works is because you are setting a sexual frame from the initial meeting so she has no opportunity to consider you as a friend. So scratch that idea. Did she explicitly say "I just want to be friends" or something similiar? Or are you reading into her intentions? If you haven't already done so, the only thing I can advise is that you escalate sexually. Your best … | /r/askTRP | 21/08/13 10:40 PM |
| 16 | India: the Story You Never Wanted to HearWhat a joke. Here's the thing... India is a shithole. Sure you might find some nice beaches, there are some really good 5 star hotels and if you have money then you don't have anything to worry about. I spent a month backpacking India and the only positive thing I took away from my experience was the architecture. You also have to admire what people living in apalling conditions will do to get ahead. The story in the article is a complete joke.. "Can't be verified". I can tell you that none of t… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/08/13 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Do you guys ever go to the bar alone to practice PUA tactics or is that weird?Haha, it's funny to read this because it's what I did two weeks ago. Then I ran into him again two days later. He confronted me with "Got bored of talking to me huh?" And I said, "Got a text, family emergency" and then just walked away again. This guy was proper batshit crazy, talking about how the Egyptians built the pyramids for the purpose of time travel. | /r/askTRP | 19/08/13 03:53 PM |
| 3 | Red Pill Media? What is worth watching for doses of TRP ideology?House of Cards seconded, also want to mention a new series that is just getting started called Ray Donovan. Some real nice red pill moments so far. Ray's Wife: Who is the most important person in your life? (or something other shit test). Ray: Ezra (his mentor) Ray: He is the best thing to happen to me Ray's Wife: Thanks alot, Ray! Ray: Shut the fuck up (Smirk, make out) | /r/TheRedPill | 17/08/13 01:43 AM |
| 1 | When do you tell a girl you love her?Depends on the situation and the girl (some girls really need to hear it, others don't). Here's a few rules of thumb: Don't be the first to say it. Don't say it when she expects it ("I love you too.") Don't bother if it's not a LTR and you're less than six months in. Never say it from a position of weakness ("But I love you.") If you feel you must say it at the very least: Say it when she doesn't expect it Say it rarely - like once a month/year. You should not end every phone conversation with "… | /r/askTRP | 16/08/13 06:21 PM |
| 3 | /r/Short user posts story about sexism and heightism on a short asian man, hamster tries to blame it on patriarchy and labeling it as cause of all problems. [Fixed link]6) Genetic selection - destroy the short-man genes? | /r/TheRedPill | 15/08/13 03:53 PM |
| 5 | Alpha resentment: how women need to attack a man if he's too high-value.We have a word for heroes fighting for the other side: Villains. | /r/TheRedPill | 14/08/13 11:48 PM |
| 8 | "Yeah (name), you're 100% right and I'm 100% wrong, as always." /sarcasm"Yep", big smile and just carry on. | /r/askTRP | 13/08/13 12:20 PM |
| -1 | ask/women is trying to figure out what redpill isAgreed. I've only brought one friend across and it was a gradual process taking many years, as the stuff I initially told him was validated by his own life experiences. So basically in order: Attraction is not a choice Seduction is a skill set Basic tenets: Supplication, Attraction, Rapport, IOIs, Inner Game Once he got to that stage, it was much easier to accept hypergamy, smv, etc... It's impossible to have a meaningful conversation about TRP with someone who thinks that all they need to find … | /r/TheRedPill | 11/08/13 10:11 PM |
| 4 | ask/women is trying to figure out what redpill isThe fourth word of the question already indicates failure. I don't see it anywhere in the sidebar, but I hope most red pillers would agree that "dating" is a losing proposition. The reason being that there are much better frames into which to put a relationship, to the benefit of both people! Also related top comment: I'm pretty sure the redpill community is made up of people who haven't ever experienced dating before. If they had, they wouldn't be half as ridiculous. | /r/TheRedPill | 11/08/13 09:59 PM |
| 0 | Follow up to:Plenty of sex with wife but low quality, what am I doing wrong?I suspect she sees herself as the good girl (Madonna) within the context of your relationship. I haven't had to overcome something like this, because it's much easier to set the right frame from the beginning than to turn it around. Any advice I gave you would just be based on theory, so I'll let other guys who have been in your situation chime in; I'm very interested in what they have to say. | /r/askTRP | 11/08/13 09:44 PM |
| -1 | Follow up to:Plenty of sex with wife but low quality, what am I doing wrong?Madonna-Whore complex? | /r/askTRP | 11/08/13 09:16 PM |
| 1 | 101 Everyday ways for men to be Beta White Knights.And let's not forget the counterpoint: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1jj724/in_response_to_101_everyday_ways_for_men_to_be/ | /r/TheRedPill | 11/08/13 08:50 PM |
| 9 | Activist woman claims man assaulted her multiple times at conference. Later, she agreed with his request to walk her back to her hotel room. While walking back, she realized her agreement was an "accident"(!), and manages to ditch him while he wasn't looking. She is lauded as "brave".I think the word she was looking for was "mistake" but that would imply some sort of responsibility on her part. | /r/TheRedPill | 05/08/13 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Your opinion of fighting in generalIf you want to read more about this topic, I highly recommend the book Meditations on Violence by Rory Miller. He gives a great background on when to use violence, how to prepare, and how to deal with the consequences (legal and emotional). | /r/TheRedPill | 31/07/13 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Bring your fitness or strength training questions hereThanks for answering all these questions. I have a question regarding my progress. I've been following the program from "Man 2.0' Engineering the Alpha" by Romaniello and Bornstein, and I'm about 3 months in. Over the course of the program, I've varied my diet quite a lot. I was eating about 180g of protein a day (chicken, beef, whey supplement) with minimal carbs for the first month, then added more carbs on workout days for the following months. This was all IF, with a cheat day followed by a … | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/13 05:52 PM |
| 21 | "How can she slap?" meme captures the incentive women have to provoke and assault a man knowing they are protected by the collective white knighthood.But... I thought the show was called beat the bullies. Isn't that what he was doing? I thought his response was pretty measured; he could have really hurt her if he wanted to. It could have ended so much worse without the video evidence. The smart thing to do is just walk off the set, just like you would if it happened in real life. I saw something like this on the subway a while back. Woman was upset and man was smiling (probably that smile some people get when put into an awkward situation). S… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/07/13 03:54 PM |
| 11 | Is this a shit test, or a valid need? (or mixture)This is a shit test. Keep in mind that shit tests are not necessarily concious, and her initial reason for calling you may have been legitimate. However, the legitimate reason for being on the phone with you is to reassure her that the cabbie knows she is not completely isolated. There is no legitimate reason for why you have to keep up your end of the conversation. The fact that she says "okay, i can let you go" means she wasn't even scarred of anything happening. You were better off saying: "o… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/07/13 08:02 PM |
| 10 | Pattern I've noticed with younger women: "I tell my mom everything, but my dad doesn't know [about my carousel riding]."I also had women say to me "I tell my mom everything." We will then go on to have some sexual experience and I will later jokingly say "Did you tell your mom about this?" Try it, and guess what the answer will be. It's more fun if you are very explicit. So, while girls will be more open with their mothers, the details and even the notch count will still be discounted. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 06:41 PM |
| -1 | Race-flavored sour grapes?Asian women are definitely more feminine, but to play the devil's advocate, I suspect the experiences of anonamatey revolve around seeing beta men being dominated by their shrew wives. She sees the shit-tests that some Asian girls throw out: hold my purse! She sees the browbeating Chinese wives. She sees the unhappy Asian women being forced to take the lead in the relationship because the husband does not. She has not experienced the care-free joy that Asian girls express when they are 1 on 1 wi… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 06:26 PM |
| -1 | Race-flavored sour grapes?And the idea that Asian women are more feminine is also foolish. They are typically incredibly demanding, completely dominate the home life and I've seen them figuratively run men down after the first date. And that is considered normal behavior for women in these cultures. They exhibit many extremely masculine behaviors and it works in their societies. Many of my east Asian female friends are flabbergasted that I "allow" my husband to spend his extra money the way he wants to, I let him wear wh… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 06:06 PM |
| 0 | Married for 2 years, he buys for his wife "the ring she deserves", to make up for the original ring, which apparently did not cost enough to countAnyone who posts that kind of thing to reddit is inherently approval-seeking. Spending money for affection is bluepill. He should have just given her some skittles. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 04:58 PM |
| 2 | TRP, what is your ideal number:date:f-close ratio?Just as a counterpoint, there used to be a poster on masf called MrSex4uNYC, and he said something like his ideal close rate is 10%. The reason is that if you are batting 100%, the women you are approaching are not as hot as they could be. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 01:51 PM |
| 2 | You would think that betas have the most propensity for bluepill behaviour, but I present to you the gamma.Cool, feel free to ignore. I was just giving it for context because some people like that structure and the terms aren't defined explicitly in the article. I also hate the classic argument of what is alpha, etc... On the other hand, I think there are categories of behavior that are useful to classify so that you can group examples and see patterns. My view is to think of a fuzzy Venn diagram and don't get too caught up in argument. Take the article for what it is: a pathological example of blue … | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 03:18 AM |
| 2 | You would think that betas have the most propensity for bluepill behaviour, but I present to you the gamma.I didn't want to clutter the text of the main post with analysis, so: Here are some simple definitions of alpha/beta/gamma/sigma/lambda/omega. And quoting myself from another discussion on the topic of gammas: A gamma texts a girl saying that he can't believe a meetup (with another woman) flaked. In the gamma's mind, he is building value by showing that flaking is such a rare occurence that it causes him indignation, and of course that he is seeing other women. Problem is, that the woman does no… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Red Pill method of diplomatically killing a beta "friendship"?Hey, I realize you are joking but again I think we can use this to demonstrate a deeper point. I would say a guy who does not care if a girl thinks he's an alpha is actually a gamma. Probably even harder to pin down a definition for gamma than alpha, but to start with: very intelligent, prone to over-analysis or thinking too deeply, and more MGTOW than anything. A gamma operates outside of the hierarchy; he's not necessarily trying to curry the alpha's favour and so may avoid social dominance ga… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/07/13 01:35 AM |
| 7 | The best article on Texting I have come across.I read a few articles that he linked to and he makes it clear you can take masculine or feminine approach to texting (emoticons, exclamation marks). He says that for him the feminine approach works but he makes sure to emphasize masculine traits in person. I think his observation that every text should be either for the purpose for building rapport or to set up a meet is key. I've been doing logistics-only texts recently and have definitely improved my close rate, but the meet often starts off i… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/07/13 08:10 PM |
| 0 | Red Pill method of diplomatically killing a beta "friendship"?Let's try from some other perspectives. Would an alpha say that he couldn't hang out with a girl because his girlfriend wouldn't like it? Does an alpha need his girlfriend's permission to hang out with someone? Does an alpha need to please his girlfriend by giving in to her desires to not see other women? Just consider for a second that I fully understood your intent, and I am trying to help you realize a much deeper point. I was in a similar situation a few months ago, and I also automatically … | /r/TheRedPill | 23/07/13 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Red Pill method of diplomatically killing a beta "friendship"?Think for a second about what you wrote above. If you have swallowed the red pill, why would you put your girlfriend's desires above your own? | /r/TheRedPill | 22/07/13 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Lesbian attempts to race-bait with bike experiment, selectively omits part demonstrating female privilegeNah, the most telling part is the "conclusion": How does this video make you feel? Exasperated? Angry? Furious? | /r/TheRedPill | 20/07/13 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Beer and Boobs - Rollo TomassiEh, it's an interesting question, but I was just busting your balls cause you're a moderator and should set the example. I actually got asked this by my last gf while I was in a LTR, and the more interesting thing for me was could I actually give a coherent and consistent response that was palatable to her. For me, I do think that stoicism is a big part of it. When a man his hungry, he eats. When a man is horny, he fucks. When a man is sad, he deals with it. She was obviously reaching for suppor… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/07/13 10:10 PM |
| 7 | Beer and Boobs - Rollo TomassiIt's a good article, but where's your analysis? | /r/TheRedPill | 15/07/13 02:09 PM |
| 10 | How to subtly make it clear to a girl that you're not going to pay for her?I'll quote myself from another thread: To get the girl to pay, your first choice should be to make it implicit. Your second option is to make a joke of it "That beer isn't going to pay for itself". Your next option is to tell a story where the moral is that every one pay for themselves. If all that fails, use shaming tactics; make it clear you won't date lower-class women / gold diggers / moochers / oppressed women opposed to equality ... Use whatever label you think will be most effective. Don'… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/07/13 07:20 PM |
| 2 | "What is your honest opinion of a guy that doesn't pay for the first date?" Answers are as predicted. The whole thread is garbage, really.Just had this question come up less than a week ago: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1hlpm0/paying_for_women/ | /r/TheRedPill | 12/07/13 09:12 PM |
| 4 | Paying for WomenIn general, don't pay unless you know exactly what you're doing. It's not the prerogative of the man to pay. There are situations where I'll pay: In certain foreign countries Out of convenience (busy bar and all she wants is a coke) I have attraction and not paying will fuck up logistics or increase chance of LMR (Example: We are about to get out of the taxi at my house) There are times you should NEVER pay: Buying a drink because a girl asks you to Paying for a girl you just met Buying dinner f… | /r/TheRedPill | 09/07/13 05:45 PM |
| 16 | The Watercooler #2: Less-Than-Epic AnecdotesMet up with a girl and right away she said "Hey, can't stay very long, only have time for one drink." I rolled with it - "ok, we're gonna go to a cool place nearby" Took her to a nearby but off the main street bar. She gets a cocktail and I get a glass of wine. She pays for both. We sit down on the couches (positioned so that I'm next to her) and flirt/talk whatever until the drinks are done. She notices mine is empty and says "Don't mind me, you can get another one if you want." "No, I'm good."… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/07/13 03:01 PM |
| 2 | Has anyone here read this book, I just found this sub reddit.Most of the ones I like have already been mentioned in recent threads, but I would second recommendations for: Way of the Superior Man by David Deida Book of Pook (just reading this now for the first time) More on the topic of sex: Sperm Wars by Robin Baker My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday | /r/TheRedPill | 07/07/13 10:10 PM |
| 10 | As The Harem Turns.Thanks for the FR, really appreciate these. I will be adding the confirmation text to my arsenal. Already found that re-confirming a few hours before the first meet cuts down on flakes, and this also sounds like it will be helpful. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/07/13 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone here read this book, I just found this sub reddit.I mentioned it in another thread last week. It's really good. The premise of the book is the Red Queen's Hypothesis, which states: For an evolutionary system, continuing development is needed just in order to maintain its fitness relative to the systems it is co-evolving with. If you're looking for a HOWTO about Red Pill thinking, there are better options. I would consider it to be more of background reading. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/07/13 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Request: Studies that show a link between promiscuity in women and their success in long-term relationships.Same, site, slightly different chart is the one I remember: http://socialpathology.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html This one looks like it was posted a few years earlier. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/07/13 04:26 PM |
| 6 | Author of "5 Reasons to be a Feminist Man" u/HairyJonathanNathan is actively commenting on TRP and has posted his responses to his website. Engage in civil debate.I skimmed the original article, and really there's no point in engaging in debate. Complete waste of time. I think there's blue pill behaviour where men are unconciously following the script given to them by society, and then there are people at the extreme who fervently believe in self-delusion. There's no value in linking to, debating, or engaging with the latter. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/07/13 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?For the cross-cultural stuff, I recommend RooshV, who seems to be one of the most well-traveled PUAs. He writes that for example in some cultures it's not a problem to ask a woman her opinion of what she would like to do on an initial meeting (giving alternatives, etc...) But in western culture it's an almost guaranteed flake. "I dunno, what do you wanna do?" is so blue pill it's ultraviolet. I think these are just tactics and you have to callibrate to the culture, but hypergamy and the reality … | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Is The Red Pill compatible with Liberalism?I am interested in this topic, but I think it would help if you defined what you mean by liberalism. It's such a large topic; any specific aspect you think it incompatible with Red Pill thinking? Quoting from wikipedia on the commonalities among different types of liberalism: John Gray identified the common strands in liberal thought as being individualist, egalitarian, meliorist, and universalist. The individualist element avers the ethical primacy of the human being against the pressures of so… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 08:33 PM |
| 4 | Struggling to convert a dysfunctional Blue Pill relationship into a Red Pill one. Some thoughts and ranting.I want to second your sentiment. Not only is this a sunk cost, but the woman will never appreciate it. OP, read this article. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 07:56 PM |
| 37 | G/f (maybe soon to be fiancé) immaturely has threatened to leave. She likely isn't serious at all. How to respond?Let me tell you what I see when I read your post: Neediness (asking for permission) Compromise Qualifying yourself (why explain your reasons for going to the party at all?) Buying into her frame (it's agree and amplify) Explaining yourself again Explaining your reasons Backtracking Bargaining from a position of weakness Forget the pervert part, that is 100% irrelevant. The problem is your attitude. She is not even turning you beta; you are doing it yourself. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but you n… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 06:01 PM |
| 7 | G/f (maybe soon to be fiancé) immaturely has threatened to leave. She likely isn't serious at all. How to respond?Agreed, but I am giving benefit of the doubt. We all backslide sometimes and that's why he's here, to get back on the right path. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 05:55 PM |
| 2 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?I agree, it's important to make the disctinction between SMV and actual value. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?The perception is reality. As you say, the stigma reinforces itself. You equalist argument won't find much purchase in TRP. You've even managed to apply some shaming tactics in the same sentence, nice. Certainly women would benefit if society abandoned slut shaming. They would be free to act out their desires, sleep with many men and then secure a beta provider in her mid 30's. How exactly would men benefit? And how exactly would society benefit as a whole? Keep in mind the unplanned pregnancies… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?Slut shaming was once a very effective mechanism for promoting a stable society, but I think that ship has sailed. It just doesn't work anymore because the women can always find validation on facebook and won't be ostracised from their group. I don't disagree with it because it's bad, but because it's ineffective. If you look at the background for sexual mating strategies and the difference between the genders, you will see why a man trying to mate with as many women as possible is just acting o… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?I see where you are coming from. I think maybe you're discounting some of the knowledge that TRP brings to the table. The reason why women with high partner counts are undesirable for long term relationships is because they've lost the ability to bond in a monogamous relationship. There was a study posted recently that a woman with 1 or less previous sexual partners will have a 10-year marriage success rate of over 80%. Once you get to 5 partners it drops to about 50% and once you get to 15 part… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 12:44 PM |
| 2 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?Some good thoughts. If you look at the reason behind the bad-boy dynamic, you'll appreciate why your other examples also work in the same mold. The reason women find bad boys attractive is not because he is anti-authority or counter-culture or anything like that. He's high-testosterone and simply not afraid of his sexuality and he expresses his desire without hiding behind a facade. If you're a man in a job where you have to put your life on the line, it will quickly cut away the bullshit. I don… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/07/13 12:29 PM |
| 2 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?I think both the people who use NAWALT to excuse bad behaviour and the PUAs who say "All women are X" are both overstating their case. I've already taken to reading that statement as "In general, it is the case that women are X". My specific example is one method through which commonly accepted (by TRP) generalizations are based on faulty or biased evidence. In particular I would Agree: Most women react well to confidence (duh!!) Most women cannot give useful dating advice to a guy. Most women a… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 09:25 PM |
| 0 | In refutation of Not All Women are Like ThatI can't think of a more apt system of natural selection. Just need to give it a few hundred more years and they'll be ok (as a species). | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?I personally agree with you on both counts, but I think it is more of an MRA issue than TRP. At best it's an example of Female Privilege; don't think it should really be discussed in TRP. I do think the world will be much worse off if 50% of politicians are mandated to be female. People are willfully ignorant of the concept of equal opportunity. | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 08:54 PM |
| 10 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?I think it is important, because actually marriage was created not to help the common man (it was extremely uncommon for commoners to get married), but to cement alliances between noble elite. EDIT: You're right in that the origins of marriage don't really matter and shouldn't affect how you evaluate marriage as it exists today: in the favour of the woman. However, it's a great example of how women turned an institution towards their own ends. Another example is this post about the origins of ch… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 08:43 PM |
| 8 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?vaginal penetration (unless it was a c-section?) | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 08:40 PM |
| 3 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?I think a woman who is a hard target for even for a very good PUA may be an easy lay for a celebrity - who wouldn't even have to do almost anything (once in a lifetime opportunity!!). I think in this case even women who would normally be not considered "sluts" would be overwhelmed by their inner hypergamy. I think the result does depend on your definition of "slut". Anyway, I would welcome any double-blind peer-reviewed study that approached even 80% of women acting in a particular way with a p=… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 08:37 PM |
| 4 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?This was one of the reasons why I asked the question. It's hard to say what people in TRP commonly agree on. On this particular topic, there are several prominent people in the PUA community who DO argue for ending women's suffrage (please correct me if I am wrong): Roissy, Roosh, KrauserPUA. It's certainly a sentiment I've heard more than once. I think there's not enough evidence to end womens' suffrage (personally I don't vote so wouldn't care either way) because there are too many factors tha… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 08:15 PM |
| 3 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?Thanks, really good core explanation of female attraction. | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?Yes, and since no one has run this experiment (it would be almost impossible anyway) and since any such study would never be referenced in a casual reddit comment, you can see why I am skeptical to accept "All women are X" statements at face value, especially since confirmation bias is the simplest explanation due to current pickup methodology. In fact any man who could feasibly attract and sleep with the 1000+ women to make the result statistically significant would be an outlier himself due to… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 07:55 PM |
| 11 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?Thanks for the reply. I'd like to discuss further when you have time. I agree with most of your points. The beta hate is a natural result of men trying to distance themselves from their past blue pill identity. There have been discussions on "TRP-approved" blogs such as rationalmale that actually place the blame for the current dynamics not on feminism but on economy and even more so on education. Women who earn more and are better educated are cutting down on their prospective mating pool due t… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 07:40 PM |
| 2 | Which aspects of TRP do you most readily accept? Which aspects are you most skeptical about? Why? Could you describe the heart of TRP in a few words?Personal experience: I have a group of friends (women) who I can discuss philosophy with and who don't fall back to solipsism. I know (one or two admittedly) women with personal integrity who can keep their word even in the face of emotion dictating otherwise. Logic: Imagine (as many PUAs will advise) you approach women in bars, and check: who respond well to kino, give you IOIs within minutes of meeting you, are open to talking about sex early in the conversation (as subtext!), respond eagerly … | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Surprisingly good conversation about why we exist on askmen.I'm a skeptic by nature, so there are definitely aspects of TRP I continually question (in fact, just thought of a post I want to make on the topic). I am just saying it's not a conversation when one cannot accurately repeat the most fundamental arguments of the people they are describing. What ends up happening is that they create a strawman and then attack that (sometimes intentionally, but here I believe unintentionally). I would genuinely and wholeheartedly welcome a conversation/debate with… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 05:39 PM |
| 26 | Surprisingly good conversation about why we exist on askmen.I don't think it's a conversation at all. The only thing that thread proves is that TRP is completely misunderstood by most people outside of it. I think part of it is the insider vocabulary we've developed (as all communities do) which makes very little sense outside the PUA/MRA context. When I say misunderstood, I don't mean that they cannot understand our motivations or why we exist. I mean they cannot accurately describe what we believe, which I think is a prerequisite for any kind of debate… | /r/TheRedPill | 05/07/13 05:14 PM |
| 4 | Book ListThe Red Queen by Matt Ridley. Covers more evolutionary aspects and scientific background rather than any practical situations, but interesting read. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/13 10:38 AM |
| 5 | Rich doctor discovers that women are only interested in his because of his income, he becomes disillusioned in dating womenIt's a really common term in the UK. It's a PC term so that the gender of the "partner" is ambiguous. So this lets you say "How are you and your partner doing?" instead of assuming the guy has a girlfriend, etc... I think it's stupid. It could still mean business partner, or bridge or whatever.. Just say what you mean. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/06/13 08:56 AM |
| 1 | True Blood after TRPI can't even finish watching Breaking Bad after TRP. Stuck on season 4 and every episode is agonizing. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/06/13 09:17 PM |
| 6 | Friendly invitation ignored with no apology, how to deal with this situation?I would never say "I missed you yesterday!" That is needy. I would not say "What happened to you showing up yesterday?" to an Asian girl because it will shut her down and is too confrontational. It is however a better strategy in general than being passive aggressive. With your skype conversation, every statement made me cringe: Don't bother to lecture a girl about her mistakes and especially not over a medium where she can ignore you. Don't give ultimatums before you have demonstrated value. i.… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/06/13 01:24 AM |
| 3 | Field Report: Dealing with the guy who tries to take the girl your with away from you.Hey, I think you handled it appropriately. All the KJs who think you should have kicked the guy's ass for daring to talk to your woman are completely off base. That said, I think you let the guy interrupt your frame (by agreeing with his suggestion to buy 4) and then recovered well. If you had the presence of mind to respond immediately, there's other ways you could have lowered his value: Woah chubby cheeks, you paying for this? Gonna take more than that to get into my pants. Ignore him complet… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/06/13 05:21 PM |
| 5 | Girl says: My BF is a "pleasant addition" to my life- but I miss my alpha ex!Yes, but in this case she is able to articulate it, and actually does so - putting her thoughts down for everyone to see. I think it's a great example of a woman conciously pursuing the beta in order to have hand in the relationship. This is the oldest story in the book, but women will rarely admit that they want to settle because they are: incapable of that level of introspection, solipsistic, or afraid of DLV by expressing these thoughts (she couldn't get a high status male). This part of the … | /r/TheRedPill | 15/06/13 10:14 AM |
| 5 | Girl says: My BF is a "pleasant addition" to my life- but I miss my alpha ex!The best part of the writeup is: I also feel that my current boyfriend loves me more than I do him. But maybe that's a good thing, because I was very codependent on Jake. She's very clear on her status within each relationship, which is pretty insightful. But reasoning any deeper is just tiring her inner hamster. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/06/13 12:06 AM |
| 4 | Has anyone else heard this remark? What was your reaction?Not harsh enough. How about: "and you at your age, not even housebroken" Or GTFO | /r/MensRights | 27/12/10 07:02 AM |
| 2 | Reddit: Tonight I hit a woman.You were right to apologize once, but then you should have let it drop. Just stare her down and it won't escalate. | /r/MensRights | 31/10/10 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible, as a man, to avoid taking responsibility for a pregnancy in a relationship by stating so in a document similar to a prenuptial agreement?I think "surprise sex" is a bit facetious personally. | /r/MensRights | 28/10/10 10:22 AM |
| 1 | Is it possible, as a man, to avoid taking responsibility for a pregnancy in a relationship by stating so in a document similar to a prenuptial agreement?Taxes =/= rape Unless you live in Belgium, or pay alimony and child support Losing sports game =/= rape Unless it's not even close! Unplanned pregnancy =/= rape I think the parent poster meant "woman planning to become pregnant against a man's will." What he actually said is ludicrous. Because I agree that unplanned pregnancy =/= rape. I heartily endorse his co-option and dilution of the word rape to unrelated things, similar to what (some) women have done. Yes, a travesty to all real rape victi… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/10 10:08 PM |
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