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Bench press or push-ups?

exoduslife

March 24, 2014
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Title Bench press or push-ups?
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exoduslife

Upvotes 7
Comments 22
Date March 24, 2014 7:17 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/becomeaman
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/becomeaman/comments/217psr/bench_press_or_pushups/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/becomeaman/bench-press-or-push-ups.137416
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[–]spottedstripes 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do both! You can even do different kinds of push ups. I noticed great results when I did push ups every day regardless of whatever workout Id done

[–]exoduslife[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for the advice; I recently found this push-up workout that advocated incline push-ups, normal push-ups and decline push ups in a single set, so you'd have 3 x 10 of each. If i were to add them i'd definitely add incline & decline push ups to my workout.

[–]spottedstripes 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I also like using push ups as the endurance work out so doing at least 100 a day (in sets of at least 30 or whatever your highest number is right now) and then using bench to increase strength

[–]HMNbean 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People tend to bust out pushups thining they can do 40, 50, and thus they must be useless. Thing is, the pushups is a deceptively complicated exercise to actually nail. If you learn to control the scapular motion and do the movement properly instead of flopping like a fish, you'll find that a controlled set of 15 becomes difficult. Some cues to think about: keep your forearm perpendicular to the floor, allow your shoulderblades to move with your arms, keep the abs, butt, and quads squeezed hard, and keep the ribs down, such that the ribcage is squared with the pelvis. If these are still easy, you can do decline pushups, one a half reps, or use weights.

That said, the bench press is also a great exercise, but load aside, pushups are better for developing the chest. If you're training for mass, the bench press alone won't give you optimal results. Combining it with pushups would be a good idea. Alternatively, you can do dumbell benching, which stimulates the chest more than barbell.

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[–]exoduslife[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

once you've reached a certain point

Is this due to the fact that your muslces become accustomed to pushing up your own body weight?

[–]Nerf_Circus 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Walking, puts muscles on your legs to hold up your pelvis which in turn holds up your upper body, through more muscles. You don't get bigger muscles by walking more, you have to increase resistance. You can't easily add weight to push ups.

If you can't get a bench or gym check out the sidebar of /r/bodyweightfitness for an upper body strength progression. I assume it will be pushed ups, incline push ups, diamond push ups, one leg push ups, one arm, one leg and one arm, something, something, planche(?) push ups (ie. Parallel to the ground push ups with only your hands touching the ground)

[–]Pravux -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I have to disagree my friend. Push ups may be the better exercise. Variations and more variations you can work a lot of muscular groups by just changing your positions.

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[–]Pravux 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Where in the question did you read he wanted to become very "big"? For overall fitness in working more muscle groups, I'm positive push ups win this battle. - USAF pararescue.

[–]masterrod -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

This isn't actually true. The problem is time. There is certain point in time where your pushups have to be longer, or you have to do more to begin see gains in strength.

The other problem is that strength gains and muscle appearance are not always the same thing. For example some one might be able to to 200 full form pushups, but not look "strong or big".

For all intensive purposes you gain tremendous strength from calisthenics, but it will take time. You'll have quicker gains with a barbell, and you can balance out your strength and form with pushups.

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[–]masterrod 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not confusing anything. You're referring to terms that aren't really applicable here.

It's easy to think of muscles either lengthening or shortening. Shortening will give you power, lengthening will give you endurance. However, strength is both, because that's energy expended over time.

So a 200lb person that can do 200 pushups, could be considered stronger than a 200lb person doing 1 rep 400lb bench press. Even though he will definitely look different.

Reps and cardio aren't really enough description. You could have same number of reps in each set, super sets, pyramiding, or etc. All of which do different things to your muscles appearance.

A better answer is that a barbell with proper reps can get him closer to a pectoral peak, and quicker. His ability to do so with calisthenics is limited. However, he can use calisthenics to improve his bench, if that's his goal. If simply strength during fucking is his goal, i'd suggest calisthenics more than bench. If looks is goal bench, over calisthenics. .

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[–]masterrod 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are still confused on a few things. Strength in the context of weightlifting is the amount of force you can exert in one maximal effort.

Strength overall time you can engage your muscles. That's why strongest man competitions tax muscles over a time period.

The easiest way to measure this is to measure the amount of weight one can move in a given rep range (usually tested at 1 rep).

1 rep more likely describes power, not strength. 2 different things.

Weight training will not lengthen or shorten your muscle fibers, either.

I'm talking about appearance. Depending how the muscle engaged will determines lengthening or shortening appearance.

This is all genetic.

To a degree some of what you said is genetic, but there are plenty of documented changes in genetic muscle types. The most genetic thing is the point when a muscle peaks. Peak is almost impossible to change even with anabolics.

The best way to increase their size, as you said, is with the weight training. The rep range that is commonly accepted as best for increasing size is 8-12 with the highest intensity (% of 1RM) possible. This will result in maximal sarcoplasmic hypertrophy, which means intracellular fluids will be increased, resulting in larger muscles if not necessarily stronger ones.

This is completely incomplete. I think you've gotten into too much jargon, and less into practicallity of strength training. This guys pain tolerance, and recuperative abilities are also very important. It's most important for him to decide the type of body he wants. Then from there he can decide an exercise regiment.

[–]rammstein89 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Barbell Bench Press vs. Dumbbell Bench Press

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you can do 12-15 pushups in a row, they won't help your muscles grow very much. You need to use weight which you progressively increase as you get stronger.

[–]Signature2200 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Saucey super set:

3-4 sets of Cable flys 8-12 reps followed by push-ups to failure

Grade-A pump.

[–]GaiusScaevolus 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Bench to build muscle.

[–]nielsdezeeuw 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You want to be able to add weight to your reps, in order to keep it difficult. Once you can do ten push-ups, you will need to do more reps (I could do a hundred push ups, didn't do much). Sure you can do some variations to make it more difficult, but there's only so much you can do.

With bench press, you can add weight and therefore grow in your exercise. There are some variations of the bench press, which make it possible to hit your muscles in a different way, but you don't even need these variations. They're mostly extra and maybe nice for advanced lifters.

Do bench press to grow and get strong, do push ups for fun!

[–]Knight_of_autumn 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can add weight to a push-up too. I got a weighted vest a while ago and started doing pull-ups and push-ups with it. At 20 pounds of extra weight, I was struggling to do a fifth of my normal reps.

[–]drqxx -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pushup > bench press It uses more muscles.

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