TL;DR: I must say this is a long text, but in short I've tried doing "structured daygame" the last two session I've had with wings. I already notice good progression with the interactions being longer, and the girls becoming somewhat hooked and asking me stuff back. Today I grabbed my balls and actually flirted, teased, challenged AND number-closed a girl, it's been a long while since, many months. If you manage to read this long FR I would appreciate some pointers from you guys, as this being my first post ever in a seduction-forum :) It looks really messy here on reddit so I've attached my pdf here: https://filetea.me/default/#t1sFR6knpeiQZmUnTx27wVExg

Duration: 2 hours Total sets: 6

Walking sets: 5 Waiting sets: 1 Indoor sets: 0 2-sets: 1 Number closed: 1 of 1 attempt Instant-dates: 0 of 0 attempts

ASPECTS: 1 to 10 scale

Approach anxiety: 7 Walked around solo for about an hour before I warmed up with store-staff, and some indirect ones - I keep forgetting I should do this warm-up tactic at the beginning every time, it really helps! Opening strong: 7 More strong opens on this session with several yad-stops, and on a 2-set Teasing / Spiking: 4 Def more spiking this time as I kept in mind to improve, several spikes at open, and around comfort/vibing Challenging: 3 A lot better because I actually tried some time! “I like all kinds of books.” - “You just don’t have any taste” Story-telling: 2 Recognising hook: 4 Realized it when the sets started asking me questions.. “What do you do?” Getting her to qualify: 0 Rapport: 6 Closing strong: 3 State control / Positivity: 7

Went out with an old wing, then a new one, really refreshing and we were all motivated today

It was shitty weather, kinda dark, it’s autumn, and really cold. I almost stayed in this sunday, but fuck it, I went out and took some action, props! As mentioned I walked around for hours, thinking, hesitating, being anxious, not doing SQUAT - then I walked into a bookstore and chatted a few sentences with a girl working there, then I “remembered” I really should warm-up with direction/time-sets just to get my body acclimated to this shit.

THE SETS:

– Hooded girl standing alone on her phone, leopard-tights

  • OPEN: I actually walked past her and intended not to muster up the courage, then I stopped and went back, fuck the hesitation - go in! My fucking mic didn’t records this set! I said: “Excuse me, I must say something kinda random to you..” - “okay..” - “You look really nice.” - “oh, thanks!”

  • STACKING: I said: “I like your leopard-tights.” - “haha, oh thanks!” - “did you catch it yourself?” - “what?” - “like, did you hunt the animal and slaughter it yourself?” - “oh yeah, haha, totally!” (she was really receptive to my approach and seem to enjoy it from the get-go) “my sister actually just mocked me earlier today for putting these on!” - “Well now you can say a handsome stranger just complimented you on them.”

    • This was a great set just because I actually stacked/flirted with her, instead of my default follow-up: “what are you up to?” - (when then continued to chat light-heartedly and in a cheeky way, I think I asked what she did for fun, then she mentioned she did pole-fitness ka-ching!, we then talked about that, I mentioned a friend had it in his apartment and learned me a trick with me being upside down, she then told about a trick she could do.. The I awesomingly said: “Do you have anyone do show these off to then?” - “yeah I do. :)” - “oh shit..”) - Just a detail, but instead of conveying I was let down, I really wasn’t, I could’ve said: “oh well” or “good, then we have someone that can babysit our children.”
    • It was okay and good, and awesome that I did more flirting.. But ‘till next time I should focus more on saying/doing shit that I personally find cool/funny.
    • “Better doing too much, than too little.”

  • VIBING: Our vibe was mostly about her pole-fitness thing, I inserted some spikes/sexual-jokes here and there, and it was overall good, a WHOLE LOT better interaction than my average!

  • INVESTMENT: I was focused on actually doing some flirting/stacking so I kinda forgot to “shut up more” to let her do the most of the talking (for investment), but the convo was mostly about her.CLOSE: She had a boyfriend so I didn’t attempt to close.. Which I think I should’ve tried to anyway just to get myself more comfortable closing girls.

  • GOOD:

    • I actually flirted a lot, woo!
    • The flirting and chatting then led to us finding a topic, pole fitness (stacking was the skill that led to this)

  • IMPROVE:

    • Close girls anyway - their standing there, talking to you, not walking away from you - close her, what do you have to lose? (and what do you have to gain? ;)

I spotted my wing I was about to meet, who was quite late, tsk tsk, but I managed do to one set solo so that’s awesome.. He didn’t see me yet and I thought it would be funny to open a girl right in front of him, which I did!

– Quick direct compliment, ran passed my wing and stopped/opened her right in front of him!

Me and my wing then met up with another wing, new guy for me, we then walked and chatted a bit, then I mentioned when we walk and chat for too long.. We put on a time-challenge ;) “Open anyone within 2 minutes, if not, 10 pushups on the spot!” - It’s a great instant motivator. I didn’t spot any girls for a long stretch except for this 2-set, so I just ran and went for it.

– Two small blondie-girls

  • OPEN: Yad/J-stop. I jokingly and (intendedly) stuttered like I was worried and looking for something I’d lost.. “Excuse me? Hey.. ehm.. I’m looking for something.. Eh.. I’m a little lost.. I’m looking for love, do you know where I can find it?” (This was spontanteous for me as I went in blank-minded) - Both of them laugh - “No? You don’t know where I can find it?” - “Nooo :)” (both said together)

    • Then my wings came into the set, okay, since the set was starting to walk away from me, and my initial reaction was to let them go - I was thinking the intent of this was to just open and gain momentum. My wing introduced himself to the other girl, then I stood for a moment, then went right back in and introduced myself to the other girl. She said they were in the middle of a serious talk, which I actually didn’t wanna interfere, but I pushed it a bit and made some jokes, she didn’t respond so much, but I kept going for a bit, we chatted some, then I said bye - meanwhile my wing kept in and walked another block with them.

  • VIBING: After I went in I asked right away: “What’s your name?” (I should’ve joked/flirted some more, I had a great opener-topic to do that) - “I already have a boyfriend, sooo...” - “Oh, you do? Was it that obvious? my nervous laugh” (I asked this question out of fear of running out of things to say) “You know, you just gotta entertain yourself somehow on a sunday.” - “But, you can maybe try out Tinder, you know! Have you --” - “No, I like the real world.. That’s why you should go out you know, avoiding screens. I already sit enough in a dark room.” (kinda true) - “In a dark room?” - “Yeah. I just sit there.. On youtube.” - “Okay..” - “And just dying everyday..” - “Okay, heh.” - “Then you have to get out you know to avoid becoming a troll. Especially when you’re norwegian.” - (she just responds with the nervous..) “Yeah, heh..” - “What have you guys been up to, then?” - “We just watched Snowden.” - “Snowden? How was that?” I then kinda yell “watch out!” for my wing and the other girl, standing in the road with an oncoming car behind them - Wing: “Thanks, man! Our saviour!” - Me: “You’re welcome.” - My girl: “We were just actually in a serious conversation..” - “ah, sorry.” (this is when I pull out, calling my wing back, only to see him continue with the 2-set, good for him :)

  • GOOD:

    • I just went for a 2-set with a blank, spontaneous mind/opener!
    • I ran to catch up with them, and ran around them and stopped them!I let them go, but catched myself giving up too early and went right back in!

  • IMPROVE:

    • After my opener, and them laughing, I (nervously) asked again like - Point being, shut up more, give them time to answer, some silence is good!
    • Fuck my feelings infield, those negative, anxious ones.. I’m out here for picking up chicks, bound to get laid, improving myself - I should’ve tried closing her, maybe said something like: “I know it’s kinda bad timing for you, but maybe we can grab a coffee and a nice walk next week, and have a normal conversation that’s not this random..” - When I think about it, she said she had a boyfriend, but my point still remains!
    • Should have had a good follow-up, maybe keep up my initial opener-topic “looking for love”, joke/flirt around that, finding out which of these girls is actually available.
    • Signaling to my wing which of these girls I liked, but I was rather unbiased and was pretty passive about it.
    • I should’ve done some stacking/flirting to land upon a topic we both could talk about.. I skipped this, I’m new to this “structured daygame” but I’ve found it’s working wonders for me so far.
    • Don’t apologize for “interrupting”, I wasn’t even sorry either, I brought value and fun to these girls, lightened up their sunday a bit more!

The new wing, observing me and my wing, asked me if I had any success doing daygame? I think he was kinda impressed by my performance.. Anyway, I hear in the recording that I’m really downplaying myself, my past successes, and just my self in general. Yeah I’ve had some successes, a lot of small ones, and some big ones for me.. Point is, that I struggle to recognize when I’m doing GOOD, and focus almost solely on my losses and “lack-of” - Mindset/inner game needs improving. I also sound like I’m dissapointed and really monotone with a lot of things I say, I didn’t consiously know I did this..

This next set, and the other earlier (also unrecorded) was also one of my WHOLE LOT better ones for many moons ago - My luck, my phone didn’t record it again! But I was smart enough to speak some notes about it right after the set. The success I had with this set I can truly say was because of me trying out “structured game” - london daygame model

– A pretty brunette girl in all black with a furry hoodie

  • OPEN: I let her pass me, then I ran back and J-stopped her - “Hey, I just need to say something a bit random to you. You look really nice.” - “Oh, thank you!”

I then just start walking with her to her direction, this has been a hesitation-point for me usually, but I noticed that she didn’t even mention that I was walking in the opposite direction before I said hello.

  • STACKING: “Let me guess.. You work as a black ninja.” - she responded well, and I was kinda amazed about this cold-reading/stacking stuff - “Personally I work as a part-time samurai.” - “Haha!” - “..Are you married?” - “Wh-?” - “‘Cause I’m planning to be a full-time stay-at-home husband” - “Oh yeah, hah!” - “Do you have the money to back me up?” - “No, I don’t hehe.” - “Oh well, I don’t think we would get along then.”
  • VIBING: The stacking/flirting went really well I think, then I asked what she did for fun when she was bored - “Take walks, read books, listen to some music..” - “I think you just stole my list on that one.” (good one.) - she laughs - “What music do you listen to then?” - “Everything..” - We chat for a while about our interests, I ask if she listens to old-scool Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, or Eminem.. Nope. - Me: “What about books?” - “Also, anything..” - “You just don’t have any taste do ya?” - “Haha..” - “You’ll just take anything.” I was thinking sexually on this line, but don’t think I conveyed it.
  • INVESTMENT: She asked me where I was going, I just said at the spot that I was meeting my friend there.. I noticed if I didn’t keep talking here then she would say bye, perhaps. I then asked more personal stuff about what she did and found out she was a coast-guard in the army. Back-and-forth I remembered this is “investment” and I should let her do most of the talking here.. I was again kinda blown-away by the daygame-magic and managed to get her to talk more than me, by asking questions that need further detail (not yes/no questions) - “how did you like it there?”
  • CLOSE: I shook her hand goodbye and said it was nice meeting her, she agreed. I kept holding her hand at this point for tension - And then I kinda froze-up when I was gonna ask for coffee some time soon, but I stayed relatively calm and managed to get it out. She was kinda hesitant, but said “yes, that would be nice.” - “I’ll take your number, then.”

  • REVIEW:

    • GOOD

      • Upon spotting her walking towards us, I said to my wing I wanted to open her, as commitment-pressure
      • Remembered to shut up more during INVESTMENT, and asked questions that needed more depth than just yes and no, for her to do more talking
      • Walked-with when I noticed her leaning away, then proceeded to do cold-read
      • I actually CHALLENGED her, unusual for me in the past, said she didn’t have any taste when she answered “anything” on both my music and books-questions.
      • I actually closed - AND got the number for a date
      • I stayed in the set for a while - about 10 minutes - instead of the usual 1-2 min

    • IMPROVE:

    • On the cold-read “you work as black ninja” - I could’ve maybe said: “You’re one of the more sexier ninjas I’ve seen..” - In general a little more sexual hinting/flirting, but I think I conveyed the idea well enough that I found her attractive.

    • CLOSE: I should’ve seeded the pull more, do RSD Todd’s “Soft Close”-method of making the “one big closing move/question” into smaller “easier to say yes to”-parts

– Redhead with umbrella and tiger-patterned furry-jacket

  • My wing pushed me into this, I pushed him to another just before, keep up the wing-code ;)
  • It was not much, she just said thanks to my compliment, she was appreciativ, but put on her earplugs right after and I let her walk away.

Me and the wing said goodbye, but then agree to do just one more. We both did one with similiar results, not good, and very short - but we did it :p

– Random walking girl, quick compliment, kinda ignored me, then walked away - whateva :)

On the subway home I spotted a cute girl sitting alone, but I also spotted the strangers sitting on the opposite side, I seated next to her.. Only to move when another (better) seat got available, I knew I didnt have the balls to open in the subway. I said to myself that if she magically would go off the same station as me, then I would talk to her - which she did, and which I didn’t fucking say hello… This is very disappointing and somewhat usual, but I wouldn’t let this destroy my other great accomplishments for the day, because with my mind, it could easily be done. I walked out right before her, and then looked around for “checking if people nearby could hear me”, then she walked quickly a direction, which I didn’t pursue and went home, knowing I could easily have talked to her.

GENERAL BODY LANGUAGE INFIELD: - Mostly I talk too fast (unconfidently), not letting in any silences for them to fill the void (“vacuuming”) - And my volume is leaning towards to lower-side becuase of my fear of “people listening and watching” - Otherwise my eye contact and smirk and dominance can be improved

OVERALL GOOD What good things did you do? Bold the top three points.

  • I went out today, pushing my tendency to stay in and be lazy this sunday
  • I did a good set SOLO - I want to be able to do this when alone
  • I remembered trying out “structured daygame” which showed good results
  • Remember to shut up during investment, and ask questions requiring more detailed-answer
  • I did flirting, teasing AND challening - All of those are usually lacking (or non-existant)

OVERALL IMPROVE If improved, it would take your game to the next level, what would that be? Bold top three points.

  • Have a main sticking point focus for a week or so - And look over my main sticking points from last session- I usually just go in the session with nothing structured in mind, but I think it would be really beneficial to know what I mainly gonna improve upon today.
  • Breathe into your body, feel your feet, watch yourself, the environment - just stay present, you’re truly safe. Not so bad, a lot better this time on, but still I’m very anxious and in my head - I can hear that I keep interrupting my wings when they speak sometimes, not because I’m a dick and don’t listen, just because I’m not so present when I’m infield - BREATHE, RELAX, ACCEPT ANXIOUSNESS..

  • Keeping up momentum, getting rid of monotone-ness, and letting the creativity and social flow

    • Do more quickly indirect-sets for warming up, give compliments if you can, but start “innocent”

  • I am too approval-seeking, I need to be more self-amused, have more intent, and seek to enjoy myself

OVERALL FOCUS AREAS TO IMPROVE:

  • Gain momentum more quickly thru starting with asking for directions
  • Have main sticking point(s) in mind
  • Relax, breathe, observe yourself and the environment - meditate “on the girl”