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[–]TheSunshineMan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
"and had realizsed that it's about 80-90 approaches per lay for the average guys"
The only reason why it would be that low is if they're saying all the wrong things and clueless on how to do daygame.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Facts brother
[–]recursivePasta 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
For a natural or someone with already decent social skills, it can come pretty quick. Todd V mentioned you can track your approaches for daygame but nightgame you should just approach everyone and be social and count that as one whole night.
If you arec like me, ex nerd with bad subcommunitmcations and is learning game and cold approaching together, expect 400 approaches based on James Tusk and Squattincassanova. I got my first lay at 380.
7 approaches in a week? If you are already good with women sure, if not you not gonna make it. 15 approaches per session, 3x per week.
[–]Virtual-Prize-7967 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If ur not bitter it youll start having weeks where its 3:1 odds and if you can settle into that and purge any expectations while youre there… thats a good place to be man. Comes and goes, but some of the runs will for sure surprise you eventully. Expect it to take a long time initially, and welcome the exponential progress as it pops up 👍
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Damn brother, hopefully lays are a lot more often now for you. Me personally, i have been introverted most of my life and only became an ambiverted person from like May time, been at gym consistently too for about 6 months, still keeping at it. But just wanna sleep with some chicks on the side as I build up my life, its pretty fun approaching chicks, tbh i get more confident with each rejection as it makes me more motivated to keep going
[–]Successful-Try7035 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You already got the spirit not to allow rejection to hold you down. You’ll be slaying pussy in no time. Just max your looks and keep at it
[–]OGPurrito 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds about right tbh
[–]poppingcandy2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
pros like tom torerro claim 1 in 40 (although he faked infields so can't be trusted)
It's not a metric you should worry about as it's unique to the person. How good looking is he, what sort of girls is he going for, where does he live etc etc
Depending on the above you could have the best game in the world and get laid 1 in 400 approaches or 1 in 5
1 in 40 is a really good ratio tbh, but I guess 1 in 80-100 is a realistic rate, oh wells, i only have just started recently
[–]JacobMoogberg69 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Lol, fix your inner game and you can have 1 to 1 ratio. Mindlessly approaching women is not the way to go. It's not annumbers game. Or maybe it is in the sense that not every girl will be ready. Some have bf, are married are on the rag. It happens. But if you pick them carefully your success rate will skyrocket. You won't need to approach more than a couple of women a week.
[–]TheSunshineMan 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
1 to 1 ratio
Nobody in the world can accomplish that.. not even A list Hollywood celebrities.
Do this and miss out on most of the girls that could be in your bed every week.
[–]outsidecan8 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
learn PROPER game like Jacob, and you can get everyv girl
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its true, what you are saying, the women that send choosing signals are more likely to smash but for me, im only tryna sleep with 7s and above, atm i am in a more of a scarcity situation, so picking and choosing isn't the best way rn, how has your experiences been so far, would be interested to hear, as most people in person i see, want to approach women but don't have it within them, i only found out about this subreddit today.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, I'm married now but when I was single I went through a phase of approaching many women a week. I had the least success rate like this. But it was because I thought all I needed to do was to approach and that would solve the problem. But the problem was that I was not behaving like the prize so it didn't matter how many women I would approach. Once I fixed my inner game issues, such as self esteem, confidence and stopped seeing women as the prize, my success rate improved so much that I could approach a couple of women a night and I was guaranteed to get a number and go on a date at the very least.
[–]poppingcandy2 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
fix inner game and maybe you can get APPROACHED multiple times per day by cute 18 year olds. Even if you are on the ugly side and very old. I was told that's how powerful inner game is
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yes and no. I mean I get approached quite often but not in the "hey baby, come here often" type of way men think they should be approached. It's more of women glancing at you, smiling, striking up an unrelated conversation or just hovering in your vicinity hoping you will choose them. You still have to take responsibility and start the conversation but you know they are already interested. Also, not all of them are my type of course.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yh i do get choosing signals but not from the women i find attractive (7/10 and up) usually get indications from women who are 5 and 6s, but im not accepting anything lower as I will keep levelling myself up till I can get the attractive women, maybe I will just sleep around with the 5s and 6s due to scarcity but long term relations has to be 7 and up
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I bet is because you feel you are above the women you perceive as 5s and 6s but feel you are below the ones you rate as 7s and up. Objectively there is nothing in the real world that would account for the difference other than in your own mind.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don't feel as if I'm below the 7s, in my mind, i feel very confident, i feel like the 7s and 8s are more on my level, but women tend to date up, so they will be looking for guys who are 9s and 10s, but it doesn't stop me still, for the ones that are 5s and 6s i do feel like they are getting more from me than I am from them, im levelling up in life but just thought 7s wouldn't be that much of a challenge at this point in life
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night buddy
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Its true, if i felt otherwise, i wouldn't have it within me to approach them as most guys do feel that way
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Approaching is a physical act. It literally takes putting one foot in front of the other and keep doing it until you get to where she is. Internally liking yourself more than a woman (7 or above or whatever mental construct you want to use) is a completely different story.
Yh, i dont have a mental construct regarding it, its just at this current moment of time, i haven't had much luck in terms of 7s, but eventually i will over time
[–]Virtual-Prize-7967 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Facts
whatever it is, it's not worth it lol
What do you mean? Have you tried cold approaching women before
[–]BrummieAMN19 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
1 in 10 in the western world should be the correct ratio for sleeping with women(I’m including women off OLD also), the guys(about 5-6 PUAs) who say similar are the ones who you should be emulating their game off. Whoever says 80-90 approaches to 1 lay needs to improve their game and/or looks because that’s shocking numbers.
By 1 in 10, do you mean 10 women who gave choosing signals or random low interest women
[–]BrummieAMN19 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Out of 10 women who gave you your number for example, only one will sleep with you if your game is extremely solid. For beginners it’ll be about 1 in 15-20 if they’re listening to the right information. This includes women who you got their number in all scenarios eg neutral response and high IOIs.
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