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[–]Kenic_In_MD 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Communicate with them as you would any other girl. If you put them on a pedestal at all it will turn them off.
[–]zyxlla 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thing is- I dont. At least I dont think so. I try to disqualify and my compliments r always push-pull ish. But then it would seem I get into more arguments/ them getting mad at me more, maybe Im doing it wrong.
[–]Kenic_In_MD 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are putting too much effort into what you say, simply talk to them as you would anyone else. If they are argumentative or get mad then they aren't for you. Move to the next.
[–]ultratraditionalist 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The absolute best way to demonstrate high value is to not demonstrate it yourself at all -- but to let others demonstrate it for you. This means actually being a popular, fun guy that people enjoy spending time with. It means briefly interrupting a conversation you're having with her because someone wants to say "hi" or shake your hand. It means asking for her number not because you memorized a line, but because you really do have to go do other things but would like to keep in touch.
Social proof is the best way to demonstrate value. And when it comes to pickup, it also happens to be the one thing you can't fake.
[–]Fattybomba123 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And how do you get social proof or what are ways to show social proof
[–]zyxlla -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
In an isolated setting where I don't have my friends around to put in a good word or demonstrate that, then what do I do?
[–]KingRead 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How do you feel at home? Does it matter if your friends are over or not? It shouldn't because it's your home, it's your element. You need to feel at home wherever you are. You need to feel like you're always at the right place regardless of who you're with. When you feel like you belong you automatically give everyone else a feeling that you also belong. And this feeling is the vibe that you need to put off.
Does the ceo ever get nervous at the office? Does he need other people to vouch for him so the new customers know he's the shit? He doesn't and neither should you.
You need to accept that you belong and that will translate in you demonstrating that you are relevant.
Your problem is that you think something is missing but it really isn't. It's your mindset that needs to change.
[–]zyxlla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats true
[–]BrianDescartes 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Question - Why do you feel like you have to show high value to girls that aren’t good enough to see it? If a girl’s matched to you I reckon you’ll both see eachother’s qualities instantly. Don’t waste time on women who seek the wrong things or you’ll feel like you’re going mad!
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[–]zyxlla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
How then? When I hold my frame or be unexpressive they just become mad, not in a push-pull kind of way, just angry. Unless I am misinterpreting my situation.
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[–]zyxlla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Probably this. What do i do then?
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[–]zyxlla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How do i not get them to react to me and what do u mean by fluff about basic topics
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[–]zyxlla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What do I say that is considered "seeking for them to react" and what do I say to fluff basic conversations? Because if I don't "seek for them to react" thats like engaging in plain and boring conversations which also does not end well. I really dont quite understand
[–][deleted] 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks I'll give it a shot
[–]rich_god -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
It seems you're taking things way too personally. Trying to make people talk about your qualities is already showing huge insecurities. If you were confident you have those qualities, you wouldn't care about what people say about you.
You need to grow up, understand that people talk about themselves, not about you, and stop caring so much about what they think. Then become the best person you can be, and show your most authentic self from a place of abundance and not scarcity.
I play sports, dance, play some instruments, have lots of friends(albeit mostly guys), am smart and have been to many places.
None of this makes you a good human being, or an attractive one. Do you think people will go around saying "oh wow did you know that this guy plays sports and even an instrument ? What a dude !". No. What value do you bring in people's life ? Do you make their life exciting ? Do you show them how beautiful and unique they are ? Do you communicate your joy, your excitement, your enthusiasm ? Do you give advices that make them change the way they perceive their life ? Are you caring, do you listen, do you help when it's the most difficult ? Do you protect other people and make them feel safe, heard and supported in your presence ? Are you a leader, do you contribute to the world and create things for others ? Do you love yourself no matter what happens, do you stay calm and relaxed when things are challenging ? Do you have a great vision of what will happen, can you teach your skills to others, can you transform any moment in a unique and exciting one ? Can you identify and express your emotions, show your vulnerabilities and be authentic ? Do you make difficult decisions and go out of your comfort zone ? Do you accept yourself and others unconditionally and don't try to change other people ?
I can assure you that those are qualities that are talked about.
[–]borko781 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Aw cmon man way to ruin the guy. This some Greek Philosopher shit , chill out. The guy is better than 90% of us who mostly jerk off or play on the consoles and stay at home with no job and friends.Cut him slack. Girls dont think THAT deep anyway , they mostly care about physique , funny personality , good wages ,confidence etc
[–]zyxlla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Quite true in my age group(17/18) I guess. Lots of girls can be like "this guy is so handsome but then he is an asshole" and then go on to be like "damn I cant get over his looks". Clearly there is a very different value system around here. Yes i know that these girls aren't worth my time and I should find girls that value me in other ways but its just so impossibly difficult and girls like these are often already swept up by other guys.
[–]borko781 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Dont. Get pussy now while you are young. Let go of morals for now and have fun. Eventually you ll settle down but no need for a rush. Im 19 so im pretty much in the same boat. I was getting attached too easily. Have fun and maybe you might hit the jackpot
[–]zyxlla 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How?
[–]borko781 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im speaking about the mentality. Just dont obsess over love and work on yourself. If that is what you meant by asking how. Girls will come,just believe it
Hi can you elaborate on what u mean by "become the best person you can be and show your most authentic self from a place of abudance?" Also how then do I emit such characters? Do I simply work on myself and expect everyone to value me like that?
[–]rich_god 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s very large, but basically that means identifying who you’re meant to become and what you want to contribute to the world, and giving everything to become that person. And then you just expect other people to be themselves and do what is right for them. That’s abundance mentality, you don’t need anything from anyone, you’re enough, you’re complete.
I advise you Model by Mark Manson.
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