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[–]Gynze6 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Shes probably taking it slow. No need to worry or anything. Just take her out again. Shes getting comfortable to you. Sounds to me she likes you if you guys are non-stop texting. Just give it time.
[–]RecordEverything 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So much this. Every other response here is bullshit. Relax, don't try to force it. You've been given every indication that this woman likes you.
[–]nofapfuzzy 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey man,
So you went on your first two dates. The girl dodged your kiss on the first date and things got awkward on the second date. She tells you she likes you a lot yet no kiss or some sort of physical play...
When you get the kiss really depends on your style of interaction. I go in for the kiss as soon as possible, very early, funny obnoxiously early :)) Other people go in for the kiss very late. This is also closely related to how physical you get with the girl during your time together.
There are no rules in dating and first kiss... only the ones you make up and believe in.
In my opinion (strictly personal opinion, please do not get offended) two dates and no kiss or some sort of physical play is an indicator of low sexual tension or low sexual expression. Either way things will tend to go pretty slow sexual wise...
If you d like coaching on how to escalate fast, chat me up!
Yours, Chris
[–]SilverPhox 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It seems like she just wants to take it slow. If she wasn't interested in you, you wouldn't have heard back from her after the first date.
[–]TheXXL2 points 10 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
I went in for a kiss when I walked her to her car and she kind of dodged it.
Never try to kiss a girl at the end of the date.
After the date, she texted me that she had a great time and she said "I know you wanted to kiss me but I don't kiss after the first date. Just not that kind of girl."
Let me translate this to you: "When you tried to kiss me, i didn´t feel it, and since i think yu are a great guy, i don´t want to hurt your feelings, so i tell you some crap about me not being 'that kind of girl' "
I said "no need to apologize. That can wait until whenever you're ready."
Good, but you did exactly the opposite thing on your second date.
She then tells me she likes me a lot.
yeah like friends...
From Sunday to Tuesday we are non-stop texting.
... like girl friends ...
On Tuesday night I take her out for dinner.
I hope you didn´t pay for her, because, this should be reserverd for your girlfriend, with only one exception: you already had sex. The problem with this is, you try hard to show her how good of a guy you are. There is no challenge for her, since she gets it all for just being there. This is unattractive.
Again, the date goes great. After dinner I walk her back to her car and again, I get an awkward hug and kiss on the cheek goodbye.
There it is, first off you did the exact opposite of what you told her before "giving her time" and second, you did that mistake twice.
At this point I'm really confused. Granted, I'm newly single and haven't dated in like 5 years given my recent 4 year relationship but all my friends are telling me to drop her if she won't even kiss me after 2 dates.
In all honesty, your friends don´t know how women feel, think and behave. So you shouldn´t listen to them.
Am I looking at this the wrong way? Can someone shed some light on dating/first kiss rules? Thanks.
Yes, i will try to give you some insight:
Women are emotional creatures. Rarely they are rational thinking when it comes to dating. They don´t think: "cool, he pays the bill, i need to find him attractive", "now that he told me about his cool job i really want to have sex with him". They just feel, and the stronger the emotion is, the more they enjoy it. The more they open up.
And what do you think will she feel if you try to kiss her, when you didn´t touch her? when she is not warmed up? Yes. Nothing that makes her want to kiss you. So when you are going on your next date, choose something exciting. Something that gets her heart pumping, makes her laugh, shout out from excitment. You will make her feel many positive emotions wich she will relate you you.
Then it is very important to touch her. Take her hand, touch her hair, her upper and later lower back. Her arms etc. Kino Escalation. Then, when you have warmed her up enough, she will show it to you. You will see that in her eyes, her body language, that´s the point where you can kiss her. You will see that then she will just forget that little sentence she feels she has to say: "i´m not that kind of girl".
[–]greatestaccounteva 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Never try to kiss a girl at the end of a date.... I think you mean never try to make the first kiss at the end of the date (?).
Your idea of paying and lower value isn't really on point. I mean if it makes sense to pay, I pay. If she offers to split, I split. It depends but i the end I don't really care. All you have to do is make sure she's not taking advantage of you, and that you never think buying her anything will get you anywhere. But otherwise you can pay if you wish, and to say it's unattractive, flat out wrong.
[–]TheXXL 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you mean never try to make the first kiss at the end of the date
Right, i got the wording a bit wrong.
Your idea of paying and lower value isn't really on point
Well, on a second date, or even the first date, it comes off as trying to impress her. Investing more in her, than she is investing in you.
All you have to do is make sure she's not taking advantage of you, and that you never think buying her anything will get you anywhere.
And this is done by not paying the bill for strangers. She has to earn that.
[–]STUDLY616 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We are going to Incubus concert tomorrow night. Originally bought 2 tix months ago when I was with the ex haha.
Thanks for the insight. I'll definitely try more kino at the concert.
[–]ResistingTemptation 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Coffee (I assume), then dinner, and then concert tickets. All for free! You're spoiling her a bit too much imo. I wouldn't have done dinner on the second date tbh. Good luck though.
[+]redpill-visceral -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Fuck it man... You have to be more sexual and more agressive with this chick. She is your bitch and not the other way around. There is no such thing as being confortable fora a fucking 1st kiss. Its not a blowjob. She is playing you because he see you as a provider and not a fucker. I think it will be hard to you revert your image with her. I suggest you read No more Mr. Nice Guy. And if you want things get better with this girl stop texting her. Say you are busy as fuck. Skip a weekend (or 2) and schedule a new date. Select something you can interact more... Grab her strong with your arms and kiss her violently.
[–]RecordEverything 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Lol, you're a clown.
[–]STUDLY616 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Thoughts on my "issue"?
[–]RecordEverything 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I replied to Gynze's comment earlier, but I'd say just relax dude. She's clearly indicated that she digs you. For some women, kissing is more "special" than it may be to you. I'm currently with an amazing woman whom I didn't kiss until sometime during our third date and we weren't physically intimate until the SIXTH. Now things are incredible, intense and passionate. Can you blame this woman for not being one to kiss and fuck every man she goes on a couple dates with? There's nothing wrong with that. She's got self-respect and is still feeling you out.
The fact that she is showing you positive attention and is still interested in spending time with you in a romantic context speaks volumes more than the fact that you two haven't kissed yet.
Be a gentleman, show her respect, get to know her and have fun man! It'll happen when it happens.
[–]STUDLY616 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough. I really appreciate the response man. We are going to a concert tomorrow night. I'll keep at it.
[–]RecordEverything 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Awesome dude! Have fun.
[–]Scumbag30 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am kind of into this story now. You should keep us updated with another field report!
[–]redpill-visceral -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I get pussy and you are a pussy.
[–]RecordEverything 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Haha! It's not rocket science. Is that all you've got?
Ever tried just being a genuine human being and treating women with respect as opposed to treating them as objects to manipulate? Slimy losers like you make guys like me seem like the perfect gentleman. So thanks, I guess!
[–]redpill-visceral -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
/r/seduction is not a sub about morality and how to be a gentleman. It is is for sharing strategies to get women - it dosn't matter how. If you go hunting you don't need to measure the weapons you will use, only the final result matters.
If OP was not frustrated for exactly being a gentleman he woudn't ask for advice in first place.
Be rational man, world and women are manipulative and cruel, wake up. Good guys always end last.
[–]RecordEverything 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Good luck to you, you'll need it.
[–]redpill-visceral -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel sorry for you.
;)
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