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[β]G-Dalf 61 points62 points63 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good read and even better performance man, sounds like u stayed on point throughout a long night, through multiple venues and with plenty of competition. Seems like your head is in the right place and couldn't agree more with your last paragraph on social momentum. Keep it up!
[β]DaddyB0d 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Did she put a finger in your ass? She put a finger in your ass, didn't she
[β]mikeitclassy 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude she's a Brazilian MILF.
Of course she put a finger in his ass.
[β][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Awesome FR! Confidence is the name of the game!
And social momentum is huge. I went out last night with a friend and several girls, but I let being with girls ruin my social momentum. I did not hit on one girl all night :(
But...I managed to get a kiss from a 9/10, which is the hottest I've ever kissed. She looked at me as I was coming back from the bar and said:
You have beautiful eyes. You need to find someone that is fine, and procreate with them
This caught be off guard a little bit. She had a boyfriend, but was complaining to me about him. Then we followed each other on instagram, and she kissed me after seeing my progress picture from the gym.
I guess it was a decent night, haha
[β]write-the-wrong 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
These hoes ain't loyal.
[β]MarcusAurelius78 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The few that are loyal fall into the rare 5-10% of women. If you find that kinda woman, you keep her!
[β]childishgames 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Honestly I've never felt very comfortable overtly flirting with girls within my group. If it doesn't go well it puts a really bad vibe on the whole night.
Sounds like you had an awesome night. That girl seduced you with some sexy shit haha
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[β][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I would just ignore it. That sounds like a shit test to me.
Also this girl was super drunk and just wanted a guy to talk to and kiss. I couldn't pull her
[β]childishgames 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she just wanted a make out, you could've maybe played "hard to get" more. When you're about to kiss, say you can't kiss her or something. Make her work hard for that kiss and she might come home with you to qualify herself.
[β]MarcusAurelius78 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like sheβs not loyal to her boyfriend / most likely a slut so you shouldβve fucked her that night. Rookie mistake!
[β][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I tried to pull her. She wouldn't leave.
I also tried to pull a girl from the group I was with (I just met them, I was with my wingman) She wouldn't leave the group.
As I was leaving, she took her phone out and walked really close to me and pressed it again my stomach gently.
I asked "Can I help you?" And then she asked me for my number. She's down to hang some time.
Here's the most interesting part of the day/night to me:
A couple months ago I ran into one of my ex gf's former friends at the bar I go to. We talked for 5-10 minutes. I matched with her on tinder a couple weeks ago. She gave me her number.
We texted a little bit and then she ghosted me after I asked her out. I refuse to double text a girl, so i let her go.
Then yesterday she sent me the heart eyes emoji on snap chat in response to a selfie I took. This was my cue to text her. She told me that she was going out tonight and that I would probably see her.
I saw her at the bar. I walked over and gave her a hug and we talked for like 5 minutes. She was having an irish car bomb, and she was definitely drunk.
Then to my surprise, she texted me this morning:
It was nice seeing you last night! Even though is was a short time haha
Anyways, this was like a free invite to ask her out again. We are getting drinks Tuesday night. This is how you handle a girl that ghosts you. Never double text!
[β]MarcusAurelius78 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I refuse to double text a girl, so i let her go.
Highly agree! NEVER double text a girl, I have to take back my βrookie mistakeβ comment because clearly you arenβt a rookie, it sounds like you know how to socialize properly which honestly in this sub seems to be rare. What she said in that morning text is definitely her way of saying that she wants to see you again / go out with you sometime.
Sounds like youβre going to get laid with her sooner rather than later lol. Best of luck man, try to remember to post on Tuesday and tell us how it went!
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Respect! But yeah I've closed with 8 girls already in 2018. I'm far from a rookie. Ive had two girls in my bed this week alone.
My last field report was such a hit. I dont want to let this community down with lame FRs, so I only post them occasionally
[β]MarcusAurelius78 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice number haha! I usually get downvoted when I mention my number of girls in my lifetime (over 60+ women) and it sounds like you know what youβre doing. Being handsome obviously helped too but most of it is just being a smooth confident dude. Sometimes the advice in here is very cringy, itβs rare to meet someone who really knows what theyβre doing. Sounds like youβd be a great wingman and vice versa if we knew each other lol!
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Date is in one hour. I honestly just have to not shoot myself in the foot and I'll be golden.
I texted her this morning with my standard confirmation "Hey! I'll see you at 9"
She responds "Hey!! Okay!"
Then 12 hours later she texts me again "Were still going right??"
I go "Yes!"
She says "Just checking haha! I'll text you when i'm there later"
Man, why can't all women make my life so easy??
[β]MarcusAurelius78 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Haha those type of women are rare. Your approach is smart, so many guys ruin their chances by talking too much before a date. A simple βsee you at 9 tonightβ without creepy smiley faces is the best approach, well handled man. I wish I had a wingman like you around here, most of my friends try the βnice guyβ approach and then are confused why Iβm getting laid and they arenβt lol.
Hope the date went well man!
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The date went really well. We had an instant connection. I brought her home with me after 40 minutes at the bar.
Also, I am a nice guy. I'm just confident. She told me that she came home with me because of how nice and genuine I am.
We were half naked and making out. But then she told me she was on her period when it was getting hot. We just laughed about it. She was so happy.
[β]MarcusAurelius78 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nice, congrats man! Not sure if you understood me wrong or what but to clarify there are two βnice guyβ versions. Thereβs one where youβre a genuinely good and friendly person to women without secretly trying to get laid and then there is the nice guy version where you praise everything she does, agree with everything she says, etc with the simple goal of getting her to like you. Obviously I hope youβre not the second version but I donβt think you are.
You didnβt get a BJ out of it at least lol?
[β][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
BJs take me like 30 mins to finish. I dont ask for them. That's only a foreplay thing for me.
I decided to try communicating more. I asked her where she liked to be kissed as I was kissing her all over. I pulled her hair a few times and then asked if she liked it.
I've come to realize that part of the reason I fuck so many girls, but never keep any girls around is because I'm selfish in bed.
Communication is key when is comes to making women cum. Going forward I'm going to have girls begging for more.
BJs take me like 30 mins to finish
Bro what the fuck hahah what are you a horse? I canβt even recall one time where I was getting a 30 min blow job and Iβve gotten at least hundreds of blow jobs in my lifetime.
[β]GuyFromDaStore 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Older women know what men want as you have found out
[β]MarcusAurelius78 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If youβre a young dude you should only fuck older women, never be in a relationship with them that would be a waste of your time.
[β]grownupboy 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
pretty good, prettttty goood.
[β]islandgreencloud 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice write up man thank you
[β]Kenic_In_MD 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow this is great! I've always wanted to lay an older MILF, I am working on one now. But we'll see, wish me luck lol. Good job getting through the competition man that's tough!
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[β]childishgames 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I mean perhaps. We were sitting across from each other at a narrow and long table in a crowded bar on the initial convo. It would've required one of us to walk through and around a crowded bar for a long time. That would've been a significant investment. I wasn't willing to give her that, and honestly I think it was the right call in the long run.
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[β]childishgames 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Maybe I'm not categorizing correctly, but I think of shit tests in two categories. Either she's criticising/negging you, or she's pumping herself up. Naturally I know how to respond to critiques of myself. But when the girl tries to brag about herself, I have to think about it because my natural response is to validate the girl.
By talking calmly and slowly I buy myself enough time to think of a response
[β]childishgames 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
In my opinion they weren't necessarily shit tests. She was flirting around and looking at her options. So I did the same. When she looked back and saw me with other girls, it made her realize I was the best option. If I was standing there like a chode waiting on her, I think she would've stayed with another guy. I was so confident and in the zone that it was easy for me to open sets, so it worked out perfectly. I'm not always that confident. But it makes you realize what's possible if you can hold that frame all the time
At least that's my analysis
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[β]childishgames 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Um, honestly I'm not sure. It felt like a one night stand. But I could text her to hang out, just to guage things and see if she could be a semi regular thing
[β]YRuafraid 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
After grabbing drinks, I noticed a really sexy 40+yo MILF kinda eyeing me from the other side of a table we were on.
TL;DR- She found OP attractive so it was smooth sailing from there, the rest of his "game" did not matter.
In fact, he could've ruined his chance by being way too analytical (ie-- don't be impressed, demonstrate value, strong eye contact, use silence for sexual tension, be cocky)... these are all good, but they should be a part of your natural character, not things you think about doing at the moment.
I used to be formulaic with my approaches but over time realized these tips are more about being a confident person overall. Good job to OP, but let's be honest here, she found you attractive from the beginning, that changes everything
[β][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Game" only works if there's some level of attraction. If a girl is not attracted to you, you are not going to get into her pants.
Closing with an attractive women takes more than just looking good. You have to be confident and make them comfortable.
Here's my two cents. If you are attractive, then you will sleep with more attractive women. If you are unattractive, you will sleep with less attractive women.
But an attractive man getting an attractive women is just as hard as an unattractive man getting an unattractive woman. It is all relative.
Getting 7s is easy for me, but 8 and above are hard to come by. Being attractive does not turn getting girls into an all you can eat buffet. You need confidence and skill
[β]childishgames 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I would note a few things:
I'm not really considered to be that attractive. Don't get many matches on tinder and most of my friends get way more attention from girls if I'm not actively gaming. In fact I get pretty much no attention. I'm a really skinny guy. But I am 6'2 which helps tremendously.
Half the battle is being able to identify those IOIs. A lot of nights I feel like I don't get any from girls, but it's probably me just holding a weak frame.
This set was much more than just getting attraction and inevitably fucking. She was actively flirting and dancing with other guys and could've definitely gone home with someone else she was attracted to. I really don't think I could've closed without flirting with other girls (opening new sets in her presence) and making her jealous.. showing that I have options. She also threw more shit tests at me than I've ever dealt with before. Holding my frame was very important
[β]JSingh326 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Any tips in developing game? I'm about to head off to college in the fall and want to be able to pick up as many chicks as possible. I have a lot of physical advantages such as being a good looking guy, orsometimes even hot, ( been told that not tryna sound cocky) and Im built. I got confidence to approach and start a conversation but don't know what to start with
[β]childishgames 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You're on the right track. I didn't start learning or caring about game until halfway through college.
It's really hard to be consistent, but the most important thing is to stay confident and positive when you're out. Realize that you are an attractive, high value guy, and by opening sets you are doing a good thing for girls. If girls try to throw shit at you, keep smiling and standing tall.
In my personal opinion, keep it simple with openers. Don't try to say some cheesy canned line because that puts you in the position of "buyer" instead of "seller". What you say doesn't matter that much so much as holding a confident frame. If you don't know what to say but just stand there confidently with eye contact, often the girl will take the pressure off you. But watch infield videos to get ideas.
Tonight I was waiting for an Uber back home. It was 3 minutes away so I opened a random set of 3 girls just for sure random practice. I literally just walked over and said "hey" with a smile and stood relaxed. The mother hen of the group was very against me: "we all have boyfriends so just leave". I just smiled and ignored that comment. Didn't try to jump through hoops. Just acted chill. Within 30 seconds the entire group was receptive me and the mother hen apologized to me for being mean lol. I didn't hook up with anyone. I was leaving soon. It just goes to show how girls will try to throw shit at you too go away, but if you stay confident and non reactive, everything can turn around.
[+]MarcusAurelius78 -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wtf is IOI lol? And why are you talking like this?
[β]ButtNakedNasty 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Itβs to save time and keep consistency through all FRs. Read the sidebar.
Itβs so corny just talk like normal people lol
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All this is good. But remember man. To win the game, you must quit the game.
[β]VoidInvincible 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Damn man is she rich or something? And she bought a ferrari? What does she even do? Are you rich too?
MILFS are fun. I've snagged a few myself, and got one in the pipeline ready to go.
[β]childishgames 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She didn't seem rich really. Seems to do well. Middle class, but not rich (judging by her house).
And no I'm not rich. I have a job and make okay money but def not rich at all.
[β]JSingh326 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Solid bro! Fucking awesome and thanks for sharing! One question though, how do you get tinder dates? Like how do you start a conversation with a stranger and take it far enough for there to be a date
[β]childishgames 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I actually feel like somewhat of an authority on my strategy here. Dating apps are for the most part a waste of time. It's A TON of effort to think of the perfect response that will make her interested in these apps. I get straight to the point. In under 5 messages I always ask for the number. Girls don't want to waste their time on small talk on tinder and neither should you. Express interest almost immediately. You don't have to build rapport to get a date. Sometimes it's nice, but usually not necessary. Girls want to go on dates. If you matched and she's remotely receptive to your opener, get her number. If you have an open schedule, ask for a date. I don't even get that many matches but girls are often receptive and it's not that hard to get regularly scheduled dates. Just don't be too picky because you can work on your game and get practice reps on the date that will build momentum for the weekend and expand your options (making you more confident and outcome independent). You will save yourself a lot of time and improve your results.
Also, for the most part don't individually craft your messages. Mass-message canned openers to girls. Figure out which openers get good responses with which types of girl. Then use the successfully tested openers on girls you like.
[β]JSingh326 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for taking time out of your day to answer my questions man! Appreciate it a lot and when you say sets, what do you mean? Also on the postive part I'm a pretty optimistic guy and usually smiling a lot but also the most oblivious cause girls will be checking me out and I won't notice till a friend points it out π I think all I really have to do is approach with a smile and everything will take care of itself, thank you tons!
[β]childishgames 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A "set" in PUA terms is just a girl or group of girls you talk to. I use lame pua terms on here.
Also, you will learn this in time, but don't smile too much. A slight cocky smirk will do. You don't want to look nervous and have no energy, but you don't want to smile too much and look like the fact that you are taking to a girl makes you eager. Don't overthink it though. You will learn with experience
Once you get the girl talking, Going from a neutral face to a smile when a girl says something you like is also a strong move. It lets her know when she said something you like. Watching someone smile based on something you said is very powerful emotionally. It can help you connect with someone. So don't smile all the time.
[β]JSingh326 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh okay that's a pretty good tip but it's just a habit of mine to smile but I'll work on it, and one final question. So there's this girl im going to ask out to prom and I'm friends with a good friend of hers and I'm wondering if I should use her friend as a wing woman to improve my chances or I should just ask
[β]cal800 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good FR... it sounds like you had a fun night. It's great if a night out turns out well :)
[β]markinsinz7 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What...how did u beat the random cool European guy
[β]pleasetrydmt 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
For the sake of science, how would you rate your looks? who do you resemble ?
[β]childishgames 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Idk, I would say I'm about a 6. I've been told that I resemble John Mulaney
[β]pleasetrydmt 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
cheers
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sounds great - you should seduce the psychiatrist who ruined me and then break her heart so she has to give herself the drugs she fucked me over with
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