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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Inner game development always starts with life goals and creed IMO. It’s far less important to think about what kind of life you want to lead than what kind of man you want to be, if that makes sense. Because the thing is, you are going to make mistakes. You are going to be wrong and miss things and, occasionally, hurt people, even if you don’t mean to.
But starting with a creed lets you determine, to some extent, what kind of mistakes you want to make. It’s far less important that you avoid being wrong a lot (although it helps) than that, when you are wrong, you accept it with grace and use it to accelerate your self development.
Because you will be judged by your mistakes. You will be judged not only by the best that you are capable of, but by the worst thing you’re willing to consider. I think that’s something that a lot of guys miss. In some ways being really attractive or having good on-paper prospects (career, social networks and financials) is a representation of what you can be to a woman, but your mistakes are a better representation of who you are.
And the reason this is applicable to your situation is because attraction is continual. Physical attractiveness works on the very, very first moment she sees you and is at its peak then. After that you have to prove yourself every step of the way. The bar for like, suaveness and intelligence and charm when you first meet a woman is very, very high. So always aim to improve that. But also be aiming to pull the worst of your behavior in line with the best of it. It has something to do with what I would call stability, integrity, and directness.
[–]GrandMasterB19 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Can you elaborate on your mistakes being a representation of who you are? I've never heard anyone say that before and I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not sure that it's healthy to use your mistakes to represent yourself unless I'm misinterpreting this.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
For an easy example, let’s take a man who always forgets his anniversary with his wife. He can be extremely busy and maybe each time at work there was a horrible accident that was very stressful and distracted him each time.
The fact that the mistake happens twice, even given that there were extenuating circumstances, can be taken in some context to mean that he didn’t care enough to force himself to remember. Intentions are one important part of how to tell if someone is a “good” person. But impact is another. And if your intentions are always out of line with the impact of your actions, especially if it’s in a particular way (always tending towards favoring or hurting a certain group or person, for example) then someone might wonder why you’re not taking more steps to take those mistakes out of the realm of possibility. It’s another sort of risk mitigation thing.
Same as a man who always gets lost but never wants to use GPS or ask for directions. If there’s some change you refuse to make that is directly connected to something you complain about a lot but keeps happening to you, it can be a sign you haven’t done the introspection many people want from a partner.
Edit: It’s not that you will or should be judged solely by your mistakes (although if you’re famous enough, you probably will be) but that you will and should be judged by the totality of your actions.
[–]GrandMasterB19 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So your mistakes reveal your red flags and character flaws. So if I'm interpreting this correctly, your contention is to focus on developing yourself into the type of man you want to be rather than creating the lifestyle you want to live? If so I would agree with this. She isn't in a relationship with your lifestyle, she's in a relationship with YOU. I think a lot of men choose the route of lifestyle achievements and accumulating reaources because they think it excuses them from doing the self-development work, which takes a lot of sacrifice, humility, and self-awareness to achieve.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You got it; exactly.
[–]DtS40 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Really appreciate the advice, I can definitely understand that. Finding my purpose is where I am struggling, like many other young men I feel lost in that way. But everything I have ever watched read or heard about seduction, basically all boils down to just that, finding your purpose and not focusing on women.
[–]wchimezie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I struggle with that too. Finding ur purpose is definitely not easy. My advice would be to try different things and explore different ideas as to what ur purpose could be. I don’t think u me or anyone for that matter is just gonna wake up one day and have an epiphany and be like “oh shit I think I know what my purpose is now!” I think the best u could do is set small goals and build upon that. U don’t have to know what it is now but as long as ur actively trying to find what it is and are actively pursuing it by setting goals and achieving them I think you’ll be good and you’ll be much closer to having an exact concrete idea as to what ur purpose is. Just keep on trying new things and settings goals and reaching them man and slowly but surely you’ll find it.
[–]DtS40 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s truth! Just need to take action man 🙏🏻
[–]GrandMasterB19 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You need some charisma and some understanding of female dynamic as well as male dynamic (most men overlook this one). Otherwise you're just a ripped handsome dude that's still shy and can't talk to girls. Good news is - if you've got the fundamentals in check, girls will make it easier on you once you give them a taste of your charm.
[–]DtS40 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That’s 100% where I’m at at this point, just a handsome ripped dude with no game lol. But yeah the upside is at least I have the looks area handled, I’ve been making a lot of progress in regards to just being a more social guy. I know it’s going to take a lot of work but I ain’t giving up, thanks for the advice mate!
[–]GrandMasterB19 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Once you cultivate a strong masculine presence, build some game and charisma, and develop and understanding of female behavior, you'll probably start seeing rapid success.
[–]DtS40 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
In the back of my mind I know I will have success eventually. if you don’t mind me asking, what things had you done to build a strong presence and charisma?
[–]GrandMasterB19 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I really wouldn't describe myself as a charasmatic dude, but it's something I strive to improve on. It comes with confidence and feeling the freedom to express your authentic self. I would look at some role models you consider charasmatic, don't copy them but observe their behavior and see if you can channel a similar vibe with your own personality.
My presence is what I rely on. I practice a form of meditation called mindfulness which helps me keep present when I'm with people. I'm also high in empathy and I really listen to them so they feel heard. You want to make strong eye contact and bring a calm masculine energy. Slow calculated gestures, move in seductively masculine ways that show your strength and control. I try to create a bubble around me and a girl and suck her in with my vibe. It's difficult to explain because this was something I discovered naturally so I don't think of it as game.
You need to get the girl to feel and sense your masculinity. This one is tough because society conditions us to repress our masculinity and our sexuality. Then most guys grow up with nice guy syndrome and adopt a feminine frame. So you have to get comfortable expressing your masculinity and your sexuality. Once you start connecting with a girl, you want to give her a vibe where she says to herself "wow this is a really sensual and passionate guy, if we end up alone together he's probably going to try to fuck me."
You can see the connective tissue between all of these concepts is expressing yourself as a man freely, confidently, and authentically.
[–]DtS40 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you dude, def going to begin meditating again I did it for about a year and it helped tremendously 🙏🏻
[–]SadBananaCat 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
There multiple factors, but 3 main ones that you should consider. Game, attractiveness, and social status. Consider posting a picture and we can give you honest feedback, you could be aiming too High with women? Next, how’s your social life? Are you a social man with lots of friends? This will help you a lot with women. And with game, one thing I would say is to start with women you know you can get and play the latter game. And apply game to your social life. Game has a lot to do with regular conversation, so start going out more and meeting new people.
[–]DtS40 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
For some reference I’m 6’3 185 lbs at about 10% body fat, since I started out being a rail at the same height but 30lbs less, I had to dedicate a lot of time and effort to get where I am now. Tbh I feel I’ve lost a lot of my social circle because of how dedicated I became with fitness, I still have a small group of friends tho and I wouldn’t say I’m upset about the friends I’ve lost. Now it just feels like I have to pick up the pieces in that area of my life, but I totally agree about going out and meeting new people. The Rona kinda fucked that up but I’ll find other ways.
[–]converter-bot 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
185 lbs is 83.99 kg
[–]DtS40 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not jacked by any means haha im fine with being very lean with visible muscle don’t need to walk around at 230lbs
[–]SadBananaCat 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well assuming you’re attractive, there’s different types of pick up. Most people meet their SO through friends. I know personally, 80 percent of the girls I’ve talked to have been people at school, friends of friends, or really close. The other 10 percent has been from pick up. Not that you can’t get girls off of tinder or other means. But it’ll sure help if you’re not the top 10 percent of men women want.
[–]Dodechaedron 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Social success: build a career, make money. Women will come, guaranteed.
[–]401kisfun 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is based on observation. You can’t just focus on one thing. Everything should be thought of just like brushing your teeth. In terms of excelling. Job, career, physique, attire, good conversation. Not thinking any of these things give you a superior position in a conversation with anyone.
[–]K1ngKyle1 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its the age old truth, looks for guys aren't as important as you think. I was in the same boat. Athletic, good looking, got my life together but being attractive to opposite sex is not as easy for for men, just based on looks.
Some really solid advice here from other comments. I'd say now instead of looking confident, you have to be confident.
Being attractive is not something you do, its something you are.
You know your a catch, now start acting like it. Don't get cocky (even tho that might help a little) but be fearless in expressing yourself. Sounds like a little more inner game/confidence and your well on your way to being the ladies man of 2020!
Good luck brother
Appreciate that!
[–]caesarfecit 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're over-pursuing.
If you're good looking/in shape enough to get female attention on that alone, you should be getting at least some lays.
My guess is you over-pursue and this makes the girls get bored and flake or try and friend zone you, yes?
Get to the bottom of your need for female validation and you'll likely see better results. For me it was about getting over my free-floating anxiety and porn addiction.
It's either something like that, or you're totally locking up around women and not gaming them at all, but my first guess is what it smells like.
For sure you hit the nail on that, that’s something I’m really trying to work on. Whenever I think back after a flake or a girl loses interest, it’s always either over pursuing or being too platonic with a girl. Definitely boils down to lack of confidence and general nice guy behavior
[–]nazario1017 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Get better
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