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[–]VanessaChaland 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You are *missing* out on STD's, shallow people, hangovers, more STD's, perhaps a DWI or two...and that's about it. You are on a good path...stay with it. :)
[–]puddingdurian00 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
This made me laugh. En pointe.
Edit: adding in that people may look or behave well, but hygiene may not be perfect during this phase and not provide the same amount of attention to your practices. Sexual health isn't always priority or well-informed. This, with awareness for peer pressure dangers, always made me squeamish.
I thought I'd have trouble postcollege with dating, but I met a few men who respected my lack of experience and didn't dog me for it. If anything, they won't seek to break you into it but go at your pace, and comfort. (:
If they want to deflower those naughty/college experiences with you, shame on them for disrespect. Find someone real and who cares. It makes a whole difference to the experience.
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks!
[–]lacoste_play 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You forgot to add bad grades😂
[–]VanessaChaland 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Class grades? Or sex grades? :)
[–]lacoste_play 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Class🙄
[–]VanessaChaland 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was a joke...at least an effort.
[–]shaggy2gay 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yes, you are missing out. And the fact that you're asking this question on a seduction board suggests to me you already knew that answer.
I offer you my perspective from a place of experience and wanting to save you some pain. I was in basically your exact shoes - a virgin in my second year of college who was sort of discombobulated by the wild west social norms of being that age. I wanted my first time to be special in the same way you do. I wanted life to look like a romcom. I wanted to find "the right girl" and have everything glow around the edges.
It was a complete mistake. I regret all of it. I look back on high school and college and see dozens of girls throwing themselves at me who I didn't realize at the time were way out of my league. I did nothing about it. I sidelined myself. And rationalized it in a hundred ways. I was "different," above it all, "working on myself." Waiting for something perfect to fall into my lap without having to work for it. Being lazy, and afraid, and foolish.
My first time getting laid, I was blind drunk. It probably lasted two minutes. Barely remember it. I regret it 0%. Because it allowed me to move on from this stupid narrative of "The First Time" and start having an actual sex life. I've had "special" sex many times after that. I would not have been able to meet or sleep with those girls if I wasn't already adequately experienced with women.
I'm amazed that nobody else is giving you this message. The whole point of this area of learning is that it's an area that can be learned. That being good with women is a skill. Get good at it as soon as possible so that when you do meet the romcom girl, you won't fuck it up for yourself. Which, I'm sorry to break it to you, you almost certainly will if you haven't put in the miles with women in general.
You're in a situation you take for granted right now. You're surrounded by women, most of whom aren't tied down by serious romantic commitments. You all share the same context of going to the same school. You have access to social infrastructure that can do the heavy lifting for you in terms of introducing you to strangers - clubs, parties, class itself. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. Don't be like me. Don't squander what you have right now. It only gets harder after you graduate. You will be way more reliant on dating apps and cold approach afterwards. Which are certainly fruitful but it's the difference between fishing with lures and fishing with dynamite.
Work on your goals, yes. But don't hide behind them. Face up to the workload ahead of you. Dating is brutal. It's an emotional gauntlet. But one that's worth running, and one you have to run. Which you already know.
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think this is the best response I’ve gotten from any of the threads I’ve posted this on. What am I thinking.
[–]shaggy2gay 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don't beat yourself up, you're in a great situation of having all the time in the world. And keep in mind - most guys are going to pat you on the back for avoiding studying seduction because they're terrified of it too. And we all, deep down, want to believe that The One is going to spill their coffee on our book at a coffeeshop someday and it'll all just work itself out.
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your right. I just need to give it a fucking shot.
[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]0ld_Wolf 22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You are too focused on how important it is.
Hookup culture is a thing, but participation is voluntary. If you are a virgin and have no interest in it, then you do you and don't worry about it. Nothing wrong with that.
Speaking from experience, as someone who was more focused on being in a relationship instead of out having fun...I regret it. I feel like I missed out and have some catching up to do, and am finding that difficult.
My advice? If an opportunity comes up, make the most of it. But don't feel pressured to do anything you are not comfortable doing.
That’s true. Thanks.
Well said
[–]putcoolusernamehere 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
" I really have a path in mind for what I want to do, in fact I’ve outlined where I want to be and how to get there and have been confident in how to get there. I’m actively involved in academic clubs, and have a good standing as to where I want to be in general, working hard to where I need to be and just in general enjoy life right now and couldn’t be more happy with where I am. I truly have a passion for what im studying in college. I improve myself everyday, am always in the gym and feel healthy, I like to produce music as a side hobby, and genuinely love myself. (Not in an arrogant way)."
You've got everything most guys who are hyper-focused on girls should be focusing on before worrying too much about girls. r/seduction calls that "Inner-Game." Yours is top-notch, I'm jealous, you're someone's who mentally where I want to get myself in a year or two.
However, I'd give dating a go if I were you. A fit, career-oriented, fulfilled man has dating on easy mode. The fact that you don't even really care much about dating because you're so focused on yourself makes you all the more attractive to women. I know you might not be that into it now, but I really do think future you will regret not at least dating some in college. The reason being that college is the one time of your life where you're surrounded by open-minded & attractive women your age with an abundance of free time. As an adult, if I don't go to a college campus, even encountering an of-age girl I'd want to approach takes a lot of searching. It wouldn't hurt to at least ask a few girls out, and see for yourself if dating around is something that interests you... you know, you never know until you try. You don't have to get tied down or anything, but it's ridiculously easy to get a date in college if you just ask a few girls. Wouldn't hurt to at least go on one date, and maybe get that first kiss (or more).
And if you want your first time to be a special connection rather than a drunken hookup, give daygame (approaching women during the day not at places like bars) a try. It definitely is more conversation-driven then drunken physicality.
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I agree, I think your right. I think just giving it a try is something I should do because I may end up liking it. Attachment is something I’m not looking for but maybe something more casual. I think part of the reason is the girls I have talked to haven’t been “my type”, but maybe I should just look outside of them.
[–]putcoolusernamehere 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah getting attached in college (unless it's to a really great girl who wants to grow with you, rather than hold you back) would be a mistake. Sounds like you'd want a FWB kinda situation (some emotional connection, but no commitment). Plenty of college aged girls will go for that.
As for girls not being your type, just look outside your normal social groups. As you go about your daily business on campus, if you see a girl who is your type, literally just go up to her and talk to her (maybe be weary of doing this for the next few months until this pandemic is over). My favorite place to meet girls was common areas (at my school there was this one that had lots of food places and meeting halls under one roof). Lots of students would go there to just chill, so I'd meet girls in friendly moods who had some time to chat. The library & any parks/outdoor areas were solid too. Just go up to girls who are your type on occasion and ask them out.
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the advice!
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Nope. You do you! The upsides of your choice are: more savings, your skin will look better because you won’t ingest as much carbon dioxide - beer and sugary juices - as your pals, you will probably focus more on your hobbies and studies, get better grades and that will result in better internships, etc. The downside is that college is really the best time of your life to go down on girls without much prejudice haha. There is always that chance that you match with a nice group of pals that can network for you in the future for career purposes, but the important thing is for you to be you. I’m saying all of this because it doesn’t seem to bother you to be a “kissless virgin” and because you have friends, indicating you are like that by choice. If you were one of those lonely incel types, I’d suggest you to work on social skills and forcefully try to hang out more with your buddies.
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the response, yeah I do genuinely feel okay about it. And my friends don’t judge me for it, nor do I judge them. I just enjoy meeting people and talking to people haha. Thanks!
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cool. Nothing abnormal then. You might feel like that because hookups, threesomes and all kinds of weird wild fuckfests happens - always had, always will, mind you - on campuses and sororities. Be happy and chill with your dudes mate 👊
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I have noticed this one thing- women in 20s are attractive to everyone but men in their 40s are attractive to everyone cause men work hard and become something big, someone who's successful.
[–]princecome 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you’re 40 your libido is substantially lower than when you’re still young.
Right exactly!
[–]princecome -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why do I keep hearing this sentiment? Have you been vaccinated for COVID? How much processed junk food you eat? That sentiment makes you sound so castrated, not like a man.
[–]Responsible-Bike9047 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Please don’t change the way you are I literally love guys like you and trust me a lot of girls do too
[–]princecome 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Why are you telling him this? Can you give me an answer my reading my reply to his reply to you, with its context?
You’re deceiving him, I don’t understand why people are saying these things...
[–]Responsible-Bike9047 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Well no offense but it seems like you’re an incel. The OP can have sx if he wants to, he just doesn’t. Me and a lot of other girls are just like that, obviously we could have sex if we wanted, I just don’t like hook up culture and I prefer intimate feelings, and obviously we would prefer men who are similar to us in that respect. You can’t get sex because you’re unattractive so this doesn’t apply to you🤣
[–]princecome 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
I prefer the term virgin instead of incel. You’re assuming I’m unattractive here, you don’t know how I really look, ugly or not.
I can assume that you were not a part of the popular kids, from the fact that you use reddit. I assume most social extraverted people use Instagram instead. This means you’re unlikely to be good looking yourself, if not ugly.
I can’t get sex because I haven’t tried yet, I admit I’m still building up my balls. I have had 3 girls like me before. I rejected the second and wimped out for the third girl who obviously liked me. These girls were decent looking, besides the second.
Oh you said no offense, I like the honesty though. Keep saying what’s on your mind, at least on reddit 🤣.
[–]Responsible-Bike9047 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Call it whatever you want, your rhetoric and comment history make it clear you’re an incel. You have no female friends and the way you speak about being a virgin is bitter lol. You’re upset about it.
I discovered Reddit a few months ago during the whole wallstreet thing, and my instagram has over 4000 followers.
Plus even if I wasn’t attractive, as a bisexual woman I’ve had more sex w women than you🤣
[–]Responsible-Bike9047 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Good job deleting your other comments to hide your incel status 😭
[–]princecome 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t care, I just deleted those 2 comments because they sounded extra cringy. This is reddit, I don’t care what people think.
It doesn’t matter if I’m an incel, I’m just seeing reality for what it is. Plenty of guys who get laid also believe the same things.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Aye thanks! 🙏🏼
[–]princecome -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why are you thanking all these people who are misleading you to live like a cuck?
They want you to slave for society while you’re still young and healthy. They want to work you till you turn old and ugly, and can’t enjoy life like before.
I don’t know why people keep telling us this... they sound like they are misleading us, do they know something we don’t?
I feel like I’m stuck in a matrix, and other people are fucking around while telling us to work hard, while they reap the benefit. Society needs workers and guys like us are dumb enough to drink that kool aid, while these other people fuck around and have the time of their lives.
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s not that deep.
[–]princecome 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is though, if you think about it there is something going on here. It’s some sort of cultural indoctrination.
[–]bemore_ 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it's normal, it's okay. You're missing out on nothing. Make the special moments happen then my friend
But you cannot avoid women, you must get experience. Women grow faster, they're expecting men not a boy with a career. There is no way you can properly understand yourself as a man without understanding women in relation, they are after all our complement
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Right I agree, and as I said in my post I do talk to girls and have friends but I haven’t met anyone who I would consider sexually appealing. It takes more for me to be sexually attracted and definitely more than looks. I don’t avoid them, just none have been particularly ones I’d consider getting intimate with.
[–]bemore_ 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There are no girls you know you'd just enjoy making out with? Doesn't have to be deep, a lot of it is just having fun
Hmm, it’s hard to say, when talking to them I don’t really have that kind of attraction towards them.
[–]bemore_ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe it's time to expand your comfort zone. Maybe stop talking with them and start dancing with them
Maybe! Life does start outside the comfort zone as they say
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[–]NoOutlandishness9892 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Exactly! It’s just the girls I know through my friend group are all the reckless party type who, while are funny and cool to talk to, not my type haha. And as those are the only girls I would talk to I think that’s why I had the mindset. Guess I should look outside them.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah man, I really feel you what you mean. I feel keep searching, and you will find one.
Thanks and you too!
Just texted you, if you wanna talk!
[–]Delicious-Bed2469 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're missing out on nothing. There is more to life than getting trashed, making bad decisions and treating people and yourself badly. Stay focused on the important things.
[–]yaboijimbo123 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you’re not interested, you’re missing nothing
[–]somebodyspapa 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are missing out on life and will feel so cheated if you end up marrying a woman from hookup culture later in life
[–]iron_ee 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
stds
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You need to start getting invited to parties. If not this, you need to get involved in student activities other than boring academic clubs.
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Go back to my post and re read the part when I clearly state how I would go to parties.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sorry, that was sloppy on my part. Relationships are awesome and sex is awesome. The first time is never great, but it is always a memorable experience and is an important experience for your mindset. Most guys have already had sex at 16, and I don't know why you want to be a kissless virgin. To me it sucks to be that! Get laid, its so much better!
[–]NoOutlandishness9892 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think it was still sloppy on your part even after reading! Again I go tell you to read why I have been a kissless virgin! It’s not by choice, just am more selective on who I give it up to and drunk hookups are not meaningful enough for me. I haven’t met the girl that I find sexually attracted to yet, it takes more than looks for me!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, I read that stuff already. Your first sex won't be meaningful. It will be awkward and kinda bad. Its like the first time you tried to drive. It will suck. So hoping for this amazing meaningful first time is a total fantasy. I swear these Disney movies have messed with people's expectations. Most guys find a ton of girls attractive and thats good enough for a great sex experience.
But lets work with what you want I guess. Its still really hard to meet women on campus outside student events and parties. There are plenty of great smart women at parties and you don't have to have drunk sex right there. You can get their numbers and have proper dates with them afterwards and get to know them.
I see what you’re saying. Thanks.
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