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Generally using the word “female” to describe women is a super easy indicator it’s something wrong with your mindset
/r/seduction06/10/22 04:32 PM
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Word of advice from someone past his college days: if you want to sustain this level of success with women, take advantage of being in college beyond just having fun. Study comp sci or engineering, find some bros to get into working out with, network, and do internships. Dating once you leave college gets a lot harder, and setting yourself up with a good job & body will go a long way to make it easier for you.
/r/seduction04/10/22 11:44 PM
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Haha sure
/r/seduction03/10/22 02:31 AM
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To further my point that you’re full of shit, you literally asked half a dozen subreddits a question about dealing with your girlfriend earlier this morning. Take your trolling elsewhere loser
/r/seduction03/10/22 01:51 AM
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add to my original list "be honest with yourself about where you're at." You're full of shit. There's absolutely no way someone intentionally putting effort into their mental and physical health like this is on Reddit whining like a little bitch like you are.
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:27 AM
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Then do the work you need to do in order to get those sort of relationships. Fuck "motivation", be discplined. To go beyond the minimum, use all 16 waking hours of your day intentionally to better yourself (yes allowing for restful activities like tv or video games is ok, just limit it). Some specific things you can do: Make a list of your worst addictions and begin cutting them (hint: reddit is one of them, when I'm off this app my productivity skyrockets). Plan a health diet of mostly whole fo…
/r/seduction03/10/22 12:17 AM
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I used to say the same exact thing when I was in college. It was bullshit I told myself. In experience attempting to work on myself as an adult, I see that clear as day. What working on yourself means is wanting to be the best version of yourself in every area. Build good health & fitness habits. Pursuing career success, and also financial diversification and success. Developing good fashion, & hygeine. Optimizing your day to day productivity and organization. Reading to gain knowledge. Turning …
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:58 PM
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I didn't say they aren't a good thing. I said that if it's the ONLY thing you want, you're setting yourself up to both not fully enjoy the relationship and regress majorly as a human being when your involved in it. Taking even just 6 months to take a step back from intentionally pursuing women and focus on your own interests and goals can change everything.
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:46 PM
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My whole life I thought my life sucked because I couldn't find a girlfriend. So I spent my first 3 years of college working my ass off with the goal being to find one. I lost 100 lbs, got a high gpa and set myself up perfectly for a great career, I ran a half marathon, and started some cool hobbies. All because I wanted to attract a girl. And guess what, it worked my senior year. But then it immediately backfired. Because my only life goal was get a girlfriend, the moment I found one I gave up. …
/r/seduction02/10/22 11:40 PM
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I don't think so. I think most mid-20s women do have standards far higher than their SMV, but I don't think it's because they are lazy. If anything, I think women today are probably the hardest working most ambitious women in the course of history. Look at the demographics of a college. Most of the girls in my dating pool as a mid 20s person seem to be in med school, grad school, or working a great job.
/r/seduction01/10/22 05:54 PM
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Is it a career or a job?
/r/seduction22/09/22 02:19 PM
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You’re not the only person whose thought to do this, so I’m not trying to single you out when I say this, but this is absolutely retarded. I did something similar (was casually involved in a church group on campus for the social benefit even though I was starting to feel some deep doubt about my faith). Believe it or not, most church girls actually give a shit about their faith and the faith of their partner. I got in a relationship with a girl I met in the church group and it was the most stres…
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:38 AM
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He’s still 2” taller than the average woman. Only 3” shorter than the average man. It’s no dating death sentence.
/r/seduction18/09/22 04:44 PM
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It is 4” below average height. He’s not a midget. Wear basketball shoes that are elevated 2 inches and people could hardly tell the difference.
/r/seduction18/09/22 04:41 PM
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5’9 is the average male height in America
/r/seduction18/09/22 04:40 PM
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5’5 is hardly a short man. It’s slightly below average height. It’s only online where you hear people talk about being 5’5 as if it’s a dating death sentence. Sure it hurts out Tinder, but if you meet women irl and are confident, muscular, successful, and have a decent personality, you’ll have a chance. Only 14.5% of men are 6’ are over, yet on Reddit people think being under 6’ is a dating death sentence. That means there are 85.5% of women who can’t bag themselves a 6 footer who are still on t…
/r/seduction18/09/22 04:10 PM
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Comparing being 5’5 (slightly below average height and out of anyones control) to being obese (completely within one’s control, and I say this as an obese person) isn’t fair.
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:44 PM
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The answer to improving your dating life is always the same: looksmax and meet women irl
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:42 PM
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“Hookup culture” is such a meaningless buzz term. Start going on dates with guys. If you enjoy their company and find them attractive, get physical with them. Its not a guarantee every guy you fuck will turn into your boyfriend, but some will. It’s not “hookup culture” to pursue a relationship in which intamicy happens before commitment. You can even have a friend with benefits without it being a club one night stand.
/r/seduction18/09/22 03:01 AM
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A range for convos with girls you meet online should be 1 day - 10 days. If you don’t meet up within that window, it’s probably not going to happen. You are taking way too long to make a move.
/r/seduction18/09/22 02:59 AM
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I had a girlfriend for a bit. She was in my social circle but I basically cold approached her to start the convo. Got a short term fwb as well. Have had at least a dozen first dates. But I’m also dealing with the issue of being overweight and not where I want to be career wise, so I’m not really expecting results. I just cold approach because I’m trying to make meeting girls a habit as part of my daily routine. Long run I’ll get results as I start to sort my fitness and career (which is the prio…
/r/seduction17/09/22 04:28 PM
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I have. I keep fighting because the occasional successes make it worthwhile. Though having an absurdly high rejection rate is probably a sign you need to work on your fundamentals (fitness and finances in particular). I’m just saying the average dude in 2022 could benefit from sharing this mindset of being willing to get rejected. Because I know of so many solid dudes (good job, good fitness, a couple of cool hobbies) who are perpetually single because they’re afraid to put themselves out there.
/r/seduction17/09/22 04:10 PM
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Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, I agree with you. Dudes on this sub give up on a prospect way too fast and in general just attach way to much of their ego to the interaction. Girl goes a little cold for a bit and she’s dead to them. That might protect the ego and make you feel like a strong man with options, but at the end of the day it just means you get way less chances than the dude willing to sift through some of the bull shit. So long as you’re also talking to other girls at the sa…
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:09 PM
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It stops hurting so bad after about rejection 7
/r/seduction16/09/22 12:28 PM
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I’ve gotten to the point where it doesn’t even bother me. You get numb to it when you try it enough.
/r/seduction16/09/22 12:37 AM
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The connection comes from the dates you get. The more people you meet, the more opportunities to find one who clicks with you. Everyone potential partner starts as a stranger. Cold approach bridges the gap from stranger to date to maybe even partner.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:42 PM
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No. Who gets more dates: Guy A: approaches 20 girls a week (or let’s even say a month), has a 5% success rate. Guy B: has a crush a one girl for 3 months and eventually works up the courage to ask her out. Repeats this process his whole life at a 33% success rate. Guy A gets rejected 19 times a month, but gets 1 date from it. By month 9 when guy B gets into a ltr with a crush that finally worked out, Guy A has had 9 dates.
/r/seduction15/09/22 09:37 PM
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Terrible, but results aren’t really what I’m looking for at this stage. I’m overweight and aware that’s holding me back. My goal isn’t to get laid x% of the time I talk to girls, it’s to form the habit of approaching interesting strangers as I go about my daily life so that I improve my social skills and in the long run get more opportunities with women. Judging your life by inputs rather than results in the short run is a much more healthy way to go about things. If I can continue this habit, a…
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:32 PM
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I take routines I would do at home and do them elsewhere instead. For example, when I’m being productive, I like to devote about 2.5 hours a day to studying for career advancement and reading, 30 minutes for journaling, and 30-60 minutes a day to walking. Rather than doing these activities at home in my bedroom/walking on my treadmill, I take 20 minutes to drive to either a college campus or a coffee shop. I’ll approach one person before I read, then do the hour of reading. Then I’ll go for walk…
/r/seduction15/09/22 07:27 PM
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I enjoy approaching women. Wouldn’t say I do 100 approaches a month, but I probably do 50. It’s a nice little thing I sprinkle into my other routines.
/r/seduction15/09/22 06:33 PM
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Completely disagree. You definitely want to improve your success rate of each approach, but the dude who approaches 100 girls a month with a 1% success rate gets more dates on average than the guy who approaches 10 girls a month with an 8% success rate. More rejections usually equals more dates.
/r/seduction15/09/22 06:29 PM
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Willingness to get rejected. If you’re not getting rejected very often, you’re not putting yourself out there enough.
/r/seduction15/09/22 05:48 PM
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It was working extremely well and by June 1 2020 I had lost 25+ lbs and made substantial progress on exams. But as month 3 of the pandemic isolation started and I realized it wasn't something that was just going to go away anytime soon, I fell into a really bad depression. Come October 2020 I was hit was some big blows (my dog died, I got denied a promotion for a job I'd been dreaming of, and the election discourse had me on edge) and I fell deeper into the depression. 2021 I learned both my par…
/r/seduction15/09/22 01:21 PM
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I’ve made a similar mistake a lot lately because I didn’t know how to street game. When you street game, you need to do a “stop”, meaning get her to stop walking and talk to you in a stationary location. Otherwise, you never know when she’s going to have to go in a different direction and you also might make her think you’re following her.
/r/seduction15/09/22 11:31 AM
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My gripe is more just how easy women have. Roll out of bed absolutely average, but on a cute outfit and take a picture, and have hundreds of thirsty dudes begging for you on Tinder. That's how you get laid as a woman. As a man, you've got to get jacked, succeed in your career, have cool hobbies, have strong social skills, cold approach hundreds of girls and constantly get rejected, etc. I don't blame women for it, I blame Tinder.
/r/seduction14/09/22 08:01 PM
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Agreed. It's completely possible to simultaneously be willing to put in the work it takes to get good with women while also under wondering why having to work so hard is necessary. It's easy to feel jaded about how much higher standards men are held too.
/r/seduction14/09/22 06:06 PM
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I get the number then immeadiately have them text me theirs. 80% of the time I get the text right away.
/r/seduction13/09/22 07:09 PM
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I like this text, I’ll start using it. Only issue is I typically get girls numbers by giving them mine and asking them to text me on the spot, I guess maybe I should stop doing this.
/r/seduction13/09/22 04:59 PM
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Is it acceptable to go straight for the first date in text 1? Feels like it’s jumping the gun
/r/seduction13/09/22 04:04 PM
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I definitely agree about the point to incorporate approach into your daily routines rather than going out to sarge. Never felt creepier in my life than when I was just walking around supermarkets or campuses looking for girls to approach. Whereas when I was doing so as part of my shopping or study routines, it felt natural. I logically agree with all the points you made and generally have a pretty good tolerance for rejection. That being said, emotions exist. As nonreactive as you can try to mak…
/r/seduction13/09/22 01:03 PM
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What I think most aren’t understanding about the question is that I was more asking if my first text even prompted a response to begin with. Like is someone not replying to a text that doesn’t ask a question the same as them not replying to one that does?
/r/seduction13/09/22 12:40 PM
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I generally give them my number and ask them to text me their name on the spot A lot of these street approaches that last 5 minutes, so only so much time to make an impression
/r/seduction13/09/22 12:22 PM
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Only thing that combats neediness is options. Only way to get options is to approach. Optimize your dating profiles and swipe consistently, and go out regularly to do daygame. You’ll eventually get options and be less dependent on each one.
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:41 PM
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Thing is I usually interact with girls 20-23 (I’m 26), and they aren’t big on calling. Most young people today view calling as annoying.
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:24 PM
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Got to find a way to change that mindset. I struggle with it to, feeling like a creep when I go out to daygame. Just remind yourself that looking for a partner is a basic biological urge and so long as you are respectful and leave girls alone when they ask you to, there’s nothing you are doing wrong.
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:14 PM
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As someone who put a lot of effort into day gaming without doing these things: yes. Forget you even heard the term cold approach and come back in here when you’re reasonably fit and on the path towards financial success. Daygame is an incredibly emotionally volatile way to meet women, it will tilt you and unless you have exceptional self control that tilt will set you back in other areas (ex: I’m overweight, and after a 3 daygame session of constant rejection I’d be way more prone to binge eatin…
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:25 PM
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Plenty of liberal and progressive girls are ok with being cold approached. A smooth cold approach doesn’t even feel like you’re picking someone up.
/r/seduction12/09/22 08:23 PM
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Just because girls respond to the first text 70% doesn’t mean I convert those to dates. Long story short I’ve decided to take a break from going out to daygame, because I’ve got some career and fitness stuff I need to put most of my focus on and daygame has been too emotionally tilting for me. So these 2 girls (whose numbers I got over the weekend) are kinda my last shot at getting a date for the time being (other than sporadic app matches). I understand that’s coming not from a place of abundan…
/r/seduction12/09/22 07:38 PM
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So you’re saying literally just text this girl, who didn’t respond to “nice meeting you”, something like “want to get sushi Wednesday at 6?” Feels a little out the blue, no? But I’m open tot trying
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:33 PM
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Ok, but what are these messages about? What do I ask her about herself? I’m genuinely a good conversationalist irl, I just don’t know what to text
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:13 PM
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This issue in general isn’t them not responding to text 1. It’s actually getting from text 1 to a date. I’ve sent very boring texts that have derailed lots of solid numbers. I genuinely don’t know what to text girls about. Those 70% who respond probably goes down to 5% who meet up.
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:08 PM
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Not a 70% cold approach success rate. I probably get the number somewhere around 5%, which I’m fine with. 70% is the response rate once I already have the number when I send this specific text.
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:01 PM
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I’ve tried doing the direct to asking out text before and it’s only worked like maybe 10%. Building some rapport feels necessary.
/r/seduction12/09/22 06:00 PM
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Right, that’s why I’m thinking I should send another text. But I don’t know what to send.
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:34 PM
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Well just because the other 7 respond to text 1 doesn’t me they end up going out with me. I haven’t been getting much success in dating lately (I am in the first few weeks of a long run self improvement plan to address my deficiencies and up my SMV), so I don’t want to give up on a lead, getting the numbers took a lot of effort. 2 of the 3 I’m referring to I’m really interested in, they had some of the better vibes of any of the cold approach convos I’ve had and both seemed interested in the mom…
/r/seduction12/09/22 05:28 PM
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“We were exclusive on date 3” She’s your girlfriend already bro
/r/seduction12/09/22 03:23 PM
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It just depends on how drunk. The way he describes it “drunk and a dick ended up in her mouth” sounds to me like she was absolutely shit-faced and some dude took advantage.
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:32 PM
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Did she drunkenly cheat on your or was she raped? If she was extremely drunk it’s a valid question you need to consider.
/r/seduction12/09/22 02:30 PM
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I’m all for having abundance, but I think you need to slow down and think about what you’re saying for a second when you say “56 girls in a year isn’t that much.” It’s quite a lot. The suggestion that you want to push that number even higher makes me think you’ve got a bit of a sex addiction and you should ponder rather the expensive and time consuming lifestyle of 3 dates per week and hooking up with a different girl each week is really sustainable and healthy. It’s obviously preferable to what…
/r/seduction12/09/22 01:18 PM
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Once you start getting desensitized to approaching, you can start to do some truly audacious shit you never thought you would. For example, I was at a coffee shop the other day and approached the girl sitting next to me who was friendly but not into me, then waited 30 minutes and approached the girl sitting on the other side of me who’d been eyeballing me all night. Didn’t get either number, but just the balls to cold approach a girl in front of another girl I cold approached made it worthwhile.
/r/seduction10/09/22 02:13 PM
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It matters on apps. A lot. I won’t argue that. But if you get off the internet and meet women irl, it becomes way less of a factor than your communication skills, fashion, general fitness, confidence, etc
/r/seduction10/09/22 01:39 PM
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I don’t see what’s so toxic about it. Being bold in sexual advances (but respecting and slowing down when they rebuff those advances) is just good advice that helps generate attraction.
/r/seduction09/09/22 07:37 PM
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It’s really hard for people to be self aware enough to truly know who’d they’d give a shot too. If there’s a 5’4 jacked dude who runs his own business, they might give a different answer. It’s a bs study that’s biased as can be and I don’t believe it.
/r/seduction09/09/22 07:28 PM
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I probably was selling myself short with 200, it’s probably closer to 400. I live in a medium sized city where there isn’t really any intuitive mall or hangout spot to go out in mass volume, so it’s a bit more time consuming for me.
/r/seduction09/09/22 05:53 PM
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If what makes you attractive to a woman was an equation, height is probably 10% of it at max. If you focus on the other 90% of things, it’ll be almost inconsequential.
/r/seduction09/09/22 05:24 PM
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I swear this sub is filled with guys who get one or two results then think they can write the Bible on dating
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:24 PM
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If you have enough time to say that, why not just have the convo then?
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:22 PM
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Women like muscular men. Women like successful men. Women like men who live fun and inviting lifestyles. Height is just one variable in that equation, especially when you’re barely below average height.
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:14 PM
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Something I’ve learned lately about festivals/concerts is that you’ve got to go for the contact info or social media early on in the interaction. These are chaotic environments where you could lose contact with her at any second, and also worrying about getting the number can kill your vibe the whole show. I’ve had multiple great opportunities at shows I’ve missed because I waited too long to grab the number and circumstances outside my control popped up to prevent me.
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:13 PM
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“5’6 is going to be tuff” is the most bs Reddit self defeating dating mindset I’ve heard this month.
/r/seduction09/09/22 01:10 PM
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Thanks for the insight. I'm definitely thinking of going down this path, at least for 6-12 months. How hard did you go with the no girls thing? Like delete all the apps, stop cold approaching, only date if an opportunity smacks you in the face?
/r/seduction09/09/22 12:55 PM
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In 2022, no woman is getting approached that frequently in a single day. Most I approach seem to have not been approached in person at all in a while. In the online dating era, the frequency at which women get approached irl has plummeted
/r/seduction09/09/22 11:54 AM
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Has worked for me before, but only in the case of an emergency where I couldn’t think of anything better
/r/seduction09/09/22 11:53 AM
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As someone who is completely unafraid of rejection, I still think there comes a time when it’s smart to take a step back from girls and focus on you. When you’re getting consistently rejected over a large sample size of approaches, continuing to just keep approaching because you can handle rejection has the potential to do catastrophic things to your mental health. I’ve been approaching all summer, but at around 200 interactions without so much as a first date to show for it, the feeling of wort…
/r/seduction09/09/22 11:20 AM
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Don’t blame you. If you don’t have world class emotional stability (I don’t) then dating, especially the cold approach strategy, is going to tilt the living shit out of you, which could lead to losing progress and focus in other areas. I’m on 13 interactions in a row without a phone number, and every time recently I’ve gotten a phone number I’ve been unable to convert it into a date. Even recently this one online dating match I had who had this super deep long text convo with me ghosted me when …
/r/seduction09/09/22 11:17 AM
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Thankfully, you are young. I’d kill to be 19 again and have the mentality I have now. Work on yourself everyday, you’ll be amazed how quickly the effort snowballs. Hit the gym, study (a stem major), and start putting yourself in more social situations (just regular hangouts with male friends at first). Also work on your mental health. 1 school year of working on this stuff and by start of year next year you’ll have no problem getting dates.
/r/seduction09/09/22 03:33 AM
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One of my favorites is to say “if you can guess x thing about me, I’ll buy you a coffee.”
/r/seduction08/09/22 04:21 AM
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I have significantly learned to enjoy just doing my thing of late, but it still gets frustrating approaching dozens of girls a month, getting a handful of numbers, converting maybe 1 to a date, and having that date go like shit.
/r/seduction07/09/22 07:01 PM
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Religion fucked me up pretty bad in college too. Would be so much more experienced and happy if I had lost my religion at a younger age and just started enjoying life for what it is.
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:26 PM
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I’ll qualify that with “dudes who don’t have their shit together.” This has just been my experience (and that of my friends) as dudes who are generally pretty average but lagging behind in 1-2 areas each. It’s hard out here
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:25 PM
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I’m personally at the point where I (26) shamelessly am willing to go for 18 year olds. The dating market out here is really tough for young men, especially ones who aren’t yet very successful or fit (working on both, but it’s a long term process). I’m basically at the point where I just take what I can get. If the demographic of woman who’s most receptive to me is 18-20 college girls, that’s who I’ll go for. I’ve learned to just stop giving a fuck what society thinks about it. Mark Manson talks…
/r/seduction07/09/22 03:43 PM
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Yeah, it’s been a game changer for me realizing I can just walk up to a girl and say any random bullshit and start the convo. Sometimes when I’m particularly nervous I’ll just go up and say hi lol
/r/seduction07/09/22 04:00 AM
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Go to a map and ask 5 girls for directions. Then go and give 5 girls a compliment on an article of clothing they are wearing. Then try to add in conversation
/r/seduction07/09/22 03:59 AM
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Just chatting random shit isn’t something I’m particularly good at, but I’ll give it ok, my current method gets really spotty results.
/r/seduction06/09/22 10:46 PM
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Honestly, I've never been able to find the right balance with texting. When I go straight for logistics I seem like an autist who can't hold a conversation, and when I try to start a conversation they get bored, so I don't really know what to do. My general texting template is something like: Text 1: nice meeting you! (sent literally 5-10 minutes after meeting her, they normally reply "nice meeting you too") Text 2 (1-2 days later): what's been the best moment of your week so far (besides meetin…
/r/seduction06/09/22 05:43 PM
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I don’t bother myself with “choosing signals” or “iois”, if I see someone I’m interested in, I approach her and find out for myself
/r/seduction06/09/22 11:44 AM
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Seriously. I’ve gotten two matches this month and they give two-three word responses and stop responding when I move to ask them out.
/r/seduction06/09/22 03:08 AM
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Because it cuts down on the luck factor. Any random dude can get lucky and fall ass backwards into a relationship. But the probability of that happening is lower the less work you put into yourself. Basically it’s stacking the deck in your favor.
/r/seduction06/09/22 01:35 AM
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Yeah, if you daygame similar areas in medium-sized cities, you will inevitably run into the same people again.
/r/seduction25/08/22 02:01 AM
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I think peacocking is bs, but dressing to display your personality is important. For example, I love live music, so wearing band t shirts or festival t shirts can spark random convos for me. Basically, make your clothing a conversation starter.
/r/seduction24/08/22 03:12 PM
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The inverse of this is true as well. The girls I can get dates with in real life are girls who would’ve laughed their ass off if I super liked them on Tinder.
/r/seduction24/08/22 02:49 PM
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Yeah that’s fine. That’s essentially what I do too
/r/seduction23/08/22 08:03 PM
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In college specifically, absolutely. College is the most hyper social place in the world, so taking a lone wolf approach is leaving a lot of opportunity (socially, romantically, and professionally) on the table. Join lots of student organizations and be really involved in them. Meet people in your dorm. Talk to everyone in your classes and be the guy who participates a lot so people know who you are. Play intramural sports. Say yes to opportunities. Professionally network. Join gym groups. The m…
/r/seduction23/08/22 07:50 PM
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What he’s moreso saying is that in a super social environment like a college, it’s ok to go indirect with your approaches, and only actually “hit on them” directly if they show signs of interest in your initial convo. This helps preserve your reputation and makes you seem more like a normal dude just trying to meet people. Try to just situationally start convos with everyone rather than just hunt down girls to directly hit on.
/r/seduction23/08/22 05:06 PM
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A word of advice on college: cold approach on occasion is absolutely ok, but your main source of success in college will come from forming a large social circle through your student associations, dormmates, etc. Finding a likeminded social group to hang with is going to make dating so easy for tou, and doesn’t come with the risk of building you a reputation as the pickup guy. I did cold approach a lot on my campus and I still to this day don’t understand how I didn’t develop a super major creep …
/r/seduction23/08/22 05:03 PM
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I’ve personally found that opening with something situational and then transitioning into a direct compliment soon after (if she vibed with the situational opener) is what works best for me. It makes the approach feel more organic, and also helps prevent you from getting a reputation as that guy who spans the same pua routine everywhere around the city.
/r/seduction23/08/22 03:59 PM
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Exactly. 1 bad approach can just completely sour your night at a bar, while in daygame you just walk a few blocks in a different direction and go again. And groups are overwhelming. Women always try to paint guys who only go after girls who alone as predators or creeps, but in reality, why the fuck would I want to approach a girl who’s clearly busy having a good time with friends when I can just approach a girl who’s alone and not occupied? You don’t find girls who are alone nearly as much at ba…
/r/seduction23/08/22 02:56 PM
12

Pathetic is a bit harsh a word. Openers don’t really matter that much, they are just an icebreaker. What you say in the minutes after that are what matter the most.
/r/seduction23/08/22 02:52 PM
2

I do agree that the advice to go to stores to approach is bad (tough to disguise that you are sarging, difficult to start situational convos, you run into way too many married or underaged chicks, etc). But those aren’t the only daygame spots out there. College campuses, coffee shops, bookstores, and parks are my favorite places to cold approach daygame, and I find them way easier than bars. For someone with shit social skills, bars are overwhelming. Your attractiveness and nonverbals have to be…
/r/seduction23/08/22 02:48 PM
1

Wow we’ve got almost the exact same story. Was a total obese loser in hs, got fit and confident for college and got top grades, got ins relationship my senior year and just gave up on myself. Was starting to live my own life again then the pandemic hit and now I’m 26 and almost as big a loser as I was in HS (at least I have an ok job?). Only girls that ever seem interested in me are college girls, and I’m getting too old for them unfortunately. Thankfully it’s not too late for us though. Men pea…
/r/seduction23/08/22 01:24 PM
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Yeah, I was young and inexperienced and didn’t realize this. Got in a relationship with a girl where we both caused each other to regress, not grow. Gained a lot of weight and lost a lot of ambition.
/r/seduction22/08/22 07:29 PM
260

Awesome! A word from someone who was in your spot a few years ago (Seddit user desperate for a girlfriend, got one): don't lose sight of yourself in this relationship. When all you've ever wanted is a girlfriend, it's easy to get one and then become a shell of the person you had to become to get one. Keep improving, don't get relationship complacency.
/r/seduction22/08/22 06:45 PM
3

Frankly, I don’t know and it’s wrecking my dating life. My city is basically a college town… all the people my age (26) either moved on to bigger and better things or work service industry jobs with super weird hours that make it difficult for me to manage logistics. Feels low key like college girls are my only option, but I’m starting to get too old for that, so idek what to do anymore.
/r/seduction22/08/22 03:41 PM
2

Mid late 20s is fine. I think over 30 it starts to become a big issue. Some girls will definitely have a problem with it, and they’ll let you know. That’s ok. Many will not
/r/seduction21/08/22 06:07 PM
1

I’m the opposite (overweight… working on fixing it, but doing a sustainable weight loss plan that’ll take me over two years to reach my target weight), but find I can still get some positive responses and chances with women. The key is you’ve got to delete your dating apps and go approach in person. If you dress well, maintain good hygiene, hold good eye contact, and learn how to smoothly open conversations with women irl + have some cool hobbies to talk with them about, then you should get oppo…
/r/seduction21/08/22 05:40 PM
2

I love to meet women, I cold approach all the time in normal public settings (parks, campuses, concerts, etc). I just don’t feel ok ethically with going to the church of a god I don’t believe in to meet women to date or even just hookup with. I know a lot of people who do this, but it’s just not for me. It’s just really disingenuous and leads to shitty relationships.
/r/seduction21/08/22 04:05 PM
5

A prerequisite to this approach is actually believing the religion. I dated a Christian girl once and the relationship was super good other than how when I started questioning my faith she pushed me really hard to go to church more. I wager a lot of guys reading a seduction forum on Reddit are atheists… they wouldn’t vibe well with a church girl. It’s a real shame socially being atheist though, every Christian I know has a really large social circle and lots of dating options, simply through chu…
/r/seduction21/08/22 01:22 PM
2

I am a frequent music festival attendee, and honesty it’s a trash place to meet women. At best you’ll get a drugged out hookup in a stinky porta potty. The girls usually don’t live anywhere near you, so a day 2 is impossible. Plus, to hook up you often have to skip a band you really wanted to see.
/r/seduction21/08/22 01:19 PM
35

Not really, just think of a really good reason you’re there (the library is the closest to my house, I have a gym membership, etc)
/r/seduction20/08/22 08:32 PM
66

College campuses are easily the place in the world where you will find the highest volume of legal aged women who are open to conversation with strangers.
/r/seduction20/08/22 08:19 PM
2

I’m really into live music and have been to countless concerts and music festivals, and have a very diverse knowledge of music. It’s not everyday or even very often I meet girls super into music, but when I do it makes it super easy to hit it off and plan a date.
/r/seduction20/08/22 12:08 PM
5

Each approach goes different. Usually I make a situational opener then steer the convo towards get to know you talk and searching for common interests. I’ve just never gotten this exact line from a woman and I wonder if there’s something OP is doing fundamentally wrong to consistently draw this sort of response.
/r/seduction19/08/22 05:56 PM
10

I approach strangers in public almost daily these days. Have never gotten this question or any variant of it.
/r/seduction19/08/22 02:05 PM
17

I’ve never gotten that line before, what are you saying that would consistently prompt this line from women?
/r/seduction19/08/22 12:53 PM
5

I think it’s unproductive to keep track of stuff like this. Just keep track of successes. If I go out and get rejected by 99 women, and woman 100 ends up being my girlfriend, then I it was worthwhile to me. You are guaranteed to get 0 dates and 0 rejections if you don’t put yourself out there. I don’t care about the time efficiency or lack thereof. Dating apps and waiting around not approaching have never got me a single date, while cold approach got me my first gf and fwb, and about a dozen oth…
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:43 PM
6

Yeah that’s a bs line. As someone who’s gone through an unfortunate weight gain since graduating college, but in the same time also gained a lot of “game” skill through life experience making me a lot more confident, I actually have consistently better interactions now than I did when I was a fit guy with no clue how to talk to women. I’m no pussy slayer now, but I have no problem going up to a girl, expressing my interest, and getting her number (and once in a blue moon getting them out on a da…
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:39 PM
7

I’ve kinda grown to actually love rejection. It shows me that I’m taking action and I made my intent clear. Though I must admit that occasionally super blunt rejections get to me. I asked this one girl if she wanted to get coffee with me sometime and she just immediately said “no” in an emotionless voice. I was thinking “damn I respect you so much more than those women who give their number, text back once, then ghost, but that’s a brutal way to do it lol.”
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:34 PM
2

Hinge then. And be a little bit less selective based off looks and more based on personality indicators and you’ll likely find guys more looking for a relationship. They say the average woman swipes on just 5% of dudes, so if you’re just swiping on the most good looking guys, you’re only being matched with players who’ve got thousands of options. Go for the slightly geekier but still cute guys who have interests that align with you. Rather than reserving matching for the best of the best looking…
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:24 PM
0

Women don’t really need to overthink it too much. Start a Tinder and feast
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:16 PM
1

That's standard with daygame
/r/seduction16/08/22 12:04 AM
10

This happened to me on a date recently (she was worried about kidnapping more than murder). I think meeting a girl through cold approach tends to lead to them having understandable concerns about their safety. There’s really not much you can do about it other than do things to make them comfortable (stay in public/populated areas, ask if she’s comfortable with you driving, etc).
/r/seduction14/08/22 04:50 PM
2

I would not unless I had a new job lined up
/r/seduction14/08/22 02:47 PM
1

Fr, he's 5'9 and blaming it all on height. What a joke
/r/seduction14/08/22 02:19 AM
7

All I hear is lame excuses
/r/seduction14/08/22 01:37 AM
4

Is not. He fits in age wise and most college campuses have public facilities like libraries and gyms.
/r/seduction13/08/22 08:21 PM
3

At 23 I never really had a problem approaching on a campus. At 25, I’m starting too
/r/seduction13/08/22 08:20 PM
2

If she is anti therapy, it's a red flag
/r/seduction13/08/22 01:44 PM
2

I’m not saying sit at her table. Sit at the the next table over (this particularly is ok if the shop is a little crowded and a spaced out option isn’t easily available)
/r/seduction13/08/22 01:06 PM
6

For sure. He’s a net positive. Just some constructive criticism that could elevate it to another level.
/r/seduction12/08/22 11:19 PM
8

We all don’t
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:55 PM
9

That’s approaching on easy mode man. A stationary person at a coffee shop is so easy to talk to. Just grab the seat next to her and then start the convo soon after. Or if the seat is taken, just go up to her directly.
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:54 PM
2

I’m not saying don’t do it, I agree that it’s the best way to meet people in 2022. Just don’t go doing a video or sharing publicly that you’re doing it, if your reputation is ruined in your city by becoming the “pua guy”, you’ve got to move
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:25 PM
3

Potato potatoe. It makes it look slightly better to refer to it in this way, but at the end of the day it’s still doing the same thing as any YouTube pua likr Todd V is doing. Todd V is just honest that he’s trying “pick women up” whereas Ruben sugarcoats the shit out of it. Intelligent women can tell what these guys are doing, and those who don’t like the existence of PUA would not like this dudes videos, hence it’s a risk to be in them for a normal dude trying to protect his reputation. I’ve o…
/r/seduction12/08/22 05:02 PM
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Idk his channel isn’t that big yet. It takes a lot of courage to go on camera doing your first approaches. Anonymity is everything for a cold approacher, it’s why it works so well in NYC compared to a small town. Once you get a reputation as being the pick up dude, it’s over. You can even encounter risk of social ostracization as public opinion on cold approach is very polarized. I know if I shared a video of me doing cold approach pickup on Instagram, probably 25% of my female followers would u…
/r/seduction12/08/22 03:27 PM
10

Yeah it just sometimes frustrating watching his videos when he has dudes who are clearly comfortable with approaching on who could benefit from a push on in their fashion or style of approach that he never really gives. And anytime someone brings up a constructive critique like this in the comments he gets really defensive and just asks “want to do the challenge?”
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:55 PM
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I like his channel quite a bit, but he’s extremely one note in his advice to just approach. And he doesn’t really give advice beyond that. No talk about texting after the approach/updates on if the guys get dates. Nothing about fashion, fitness, career, etc which are all huge variables influencing the success of this style of approach. He also encourages people to have a way too high view of how much control they have over the results of the approach… there are going to be times where she just a…
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:37 PM
1

No number in 50 approaches indicates to me there might be something really off about your approach. Can you in detail describe the way you are approaching these women?
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:27 PM
1

Any numbers or dates from those?
/r/seduction12/08/22 02:17 PM
1

If you are being honest in your assessment of yourself (ask true friends who are willing to give tough love to corroborate), then genuinely all you need to do is put in the volume by cold approaching a lot. Fashion helps too.
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:55 PM
1

We need more info on you. Career, fitness, hobbies, finances, etc. there is no way to diagnose the problem without context
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:00 PM
2

Nah, you take the pen and use it then in 15 minutes go back and start a convo. You can get a pen and a penis.
/r/seduction12/08/22 11:02 AM
7

If we were handsome, we wouldn’t be on Reddit trying to figure out our dating life.
/r/seduction12/08/22 10:33 AM
12

If you’re in class together, asking about the class is a good convo starter. If you see someone cute in the library, set near them and ask to borrow a pen.
/r/seduction12/08/22 01:12 AM
2

My default line is literally “hey, I like your shoes.”
/r/seduction11/08/22 10:28 PM
2

Bro, you converted 100% of the cold approach numbers you got into first dates? How? Teach me your ways please.
/r/seduction11/08/22 09:02 PM
2

Length of the initial conversation has not traditionally correlated to interest in my experience. Some of the best convos (from my perspective) I ever had ghosted me, while some of the worst responded. 5-10 minutes always felt like the sweet spot.
/r/seduction11/08/22 08:24 PM
9

They do date them. Women just have a much different definition of what a “nice guy” is compared to the average virgin/inexperienced man. These guys think that by being kind to them they are entitled to a chance at dating, so they are nice to girls they like while completely ignoring other girls. Girls wants a “nice guy” who is genuinely kind to the members of his community, male and female, regardless of whether it gets him anything in return.
/r/seduction11/08/22 04:30 PM
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Something situational if I can think of it, but if not I default to a compliment on the article of clothing she’s wearing that I most like
/r/seduction10/08/22 08:38 PM
2

Are you putting in volume (ie: cold approaching consistently)?
/r/seduction09/08/22 01:03 PM
15

Comfort (I fucked up on this one so much in my life, when meeting a stranger, you need them to be comfortable) + curiosity
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:15 PM
1

Yeah, and it’s not like there’s not little things you can do to be empathetic as well and make things more comfortable for her. False time constraints, reading body language, etc
/r/seduction08/08/22 01:01 PM
1

I think there are some very good points made about empathetic towards the woman’s feelings of safety and comfort, but I disagree with the premise that cold approach is inherently something that will come across as annoying and invasive. There are ways you can approach people with making them feel unsafe (some of the best ones: approaching right when you see them rather than lingering, approaching from the front rather than behind, using a time constraint so that she knows you won’t be talking to…
/r/seduction07/08/22 02:55 PM
1

If she agreed to the date, I wouldn’t send anything. I’m not a fan of confirmation texts, they usually just give an easy opportunity to flake. If she didn’t agree, then you don’t have a date planned and need to retry the convo with her.
/r/seduction06/08/22 04:46 PM
1

Idk particularly with the 18 year old I felt a little weird. She was maybe the cutest woman I’ve talked to in a long time and we clicked super well and had an hour long deep convo with some clear flirting. When she was walking away and we had already broken eye contact she turned around again and said “Bye (my name)” with a huge smile and my heart literally fluttered lol. But she also just graduated high school and is going off to college this month so I don’t know if it would be appropriate for…
/r/seduction06/08/22 01:43 PM
-2

But men have an insane amount of control over our looks. Even just being hygienic and fashionable as an out of shape person is a huge improvement, not to mention how relatively simple it is for any dude (of any ethnicity or height) to look incredible by weight lifting.
/r/seduction06/08/22 12:02 PM
9

Black pill ideology is essentially: inferior men have no chance of establish a sexual relationship with women. So there’s your answer then, turn yourself from an inferior man into a strong man. Better your fitness, finances, and fun. It sucks we got to jump through all these fucking hoops to have even a few options when completely average to below average women just have to log on to Tinder and be overwhelmed with choice, but it’s a simple fact of life. So you have the option: do you want to cry…
/r/seduction06/08/22 11:59 AM
1

Yeah. I have an internal locus of control about it. If I put about 18 months of work into myself I can get laid a few times in Spring 2024. It’s freaking hard to mentally acknowledge it’ll probably be that long until I’m worthy though, especially when I’m in a coming up on 3 year dry spell.
/r/seduction06/08/22 11:38 AM
2

It just really depends on your life situation. Are your fitness, finances, & fun lagging compared to your peers? Are you spending a large portion of time chasing girls online and in person? Yeah it might be time to take a break from women for a bit and hit the lab. But plenty of dudes are not doing these things and telling them to try even less than they already are is awful advice. Lots of regular dudes (by regular I mean in shape, decent job, a few cool hobbies) don’t realize how much of a boo…
/r/seduction06/08/22 01:33 AM
1

Yeah it’s hard out here. Basically the only option is hardcore focus on self improvement
/r/seduction06/08/22 12:12 AM
7

It’s a fine line between being an incel and just acknowledging how dystopian dating has gotten. The key difference being willing to work on yourself.
/r/seduction05/08/22 11:17 PM
2

She literally said she’s open to friendship
/r/seduction05/08/22 10:09 PM
29

I moreso blame Tinder and other dating apps. Back when you had to meet people in person, all you had to do to get a date is be reasonably their type and in proximity. Nowadays their are thousands of options a click away so they can be extremely selective. Studies show women swipe right on like 5% of dudes at max, and I imagine the overlap in taste is pretty high. That leaves 80%+ guys just hanging out to dry or begging for anything from anyone who will give them a shot. It’s not a healthy way to…
/r/seduction05/08/22 09:19 PM
2

That’s why I’m saying be open to starting as just friends, especially if you meet her via cold approach. Sometimes women need to feel out your vibe a bit before committing to dating.
/r/seduction05/08/22 09:16 PM
3

Didn’t say “women” are, just this one particular woman in this particular instance. What she was really saying was “I have some level of interest in you, but I’m not sure I want to date you yet.” Again, just one anecdotal experience.
/r/seduction05/08/22 09:02 PM
4

My first gf tried to give me the friend treatment by using some bs excuse about how she can’t date rn. I stayed nonreactive and kept treating her the same way and she quickly changed her mind. I don’t think you can turn a long term friendship into a relationship easily, but at the early stages of getting to know each other, her opinion of you is extremely volatile. So taking more chances to get to know her, even as a friend, doesn’t hurt. And freeing yourself up to just act like s friend to her …
/r/seduction05/08/22 08:47 PM
10

Seriously. I have so much regret about how I never attempted to make some friends with girls who weren’t interested in dating. Those sort of friendships can easily lead to benefits (whether sexual benefits, or her introducing you to her friends, or her just being a cool person to chill with platonically and practice your social skills on).
/r/seduction05/08/22 08:24 PM
9

Im general when women pitch the friendship option, I go for it. Best case scenario she catches feelings as she gets to know you better. Worst case you get a friend probably has some cool female friends she can introduce you to. Key is you have to accept the chance you’ll never bust out the fz and be ok with it rather than start getting petty and passive aggressive if she doesn’t change her mind.
/r/seduction05/08/22 08:22 PM
1

I’ve had good responses with both styles of approach (got a fwb by starting a convo complimenting her shirt). I do think in general situational or indirect openers work really well. For example, I was walking through a park with a wet gravel road the other day and started a convo with a girl by saying “I wish they’d pave these roads” which was a million times better than if I had said “I like your shoes.” Unfortunately, such a situational opener isn’t always easy to think of.
/r/seduction05/08/22 08:18 PM
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It’s gotten pretty ridiculous how difficult it is for the average dude in 2022 to get a date. Women have too way too many options and way too high standards. And I’m not trying to say this from an incel, “fuck women”, pov, just making an observation. I know I got to put in the work on myself to have any hope of getting a date in this market and accept that. Just wish it wasn’t that way. While I think the 1-10 is pretty bs, it’s essentially that a man has to become a 7.5+ to get a chance with 5s.…
/r/seduction05/08/22 08:02 PM
1

I can understand someone finding it creepy and am willing to accept that risk… but it’s a really sad statement on where society is at that simply attempting to start a conversation with someone in public and see if you vibe makes you a predator. As long as she’s over 18 and you keep your hands to yourself, I don’t see how there’s anything remotely predetorial about it.
/r/seduction05/08/22 01:24 PM
2

Ugly guy here (well obese would be a better description than ugly, I have potential if I get my weight together which I’m working on), and I get mostly neutral to positive responses and have lots of good convos. Makes it harder to actually get dates but I rarely get interactions where women are outright upset or visibly annoyed with my approach.
/r/seduction05/08/22 01:21 PM
2

As someone who started out doing cold approach as anxious, thirsty, and desperate, I’ve found learning and practicing cold approach has made me more calm and less desperate (as I suddenly have a world full of options).
/r/seduction05/08/22 01:19 PM
1

Text her: let's go to (insert state with the nearest border to your state) then.
/r/seduction05/08/22 01:05 AM
4

I do sometimes feel like the men who would succeed most at cold approach are the ones who are least likely to learn about it. Like the muscular 28 year old guy who’s been hyper focused on his career and developing some cool hobbies would probably absolutely slay at cold approach, but why would he need to learn how to do it when his social circle, dating apps, and profession probably give him all the opportunities he could handle. Definitely wish I’d personally had made getting in shape and reach…
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:45 PM
14

"So here we all are encouraging men and deluding them to think that approaching women is going to get you laid by an 8 or higher." When you stop viewing women as a 1-10 you're trying to manipulate into fucking you and instead just go with the flow of the interaction (be willing to make friends, be willing to walk away beacause she doesn't interest you, build abundance so you don't stalker level obsessed with any one person) it becomes a lot easier to do a simple social cold approach during the d…
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:21 PM
76

One of the top comments that always stuck with me from an AskMen thread on cold approach is "a cold approach is met with a cold response" upvoted to the moon. And then the second comment is "I think I'm going to get cancelled or turned into a tiktok meme for cold approaching." Either I'm living in an alternate reality, or these dudes who are saying simply never got over the anxiety and tried a few cold approaches for themselves. Cold approach has led to some of the best random convos I've had in…
/r/seduction04/08/22 09:15 PM
10

Humantraffickingawareness.org
/r/seduction04/08/22 02:43 AM
10

Not a big fan. Don’t necessarily hate some of his message, but there are dozens of YouTubers out there with a similar message of taking control of your life through self improvement that don’t have a history in human trafficking.
/r/seduction04/08/22 02:41 AM
4

Yeah, I take this a step further and prefer to just not text at all (until we are in more of the relationship phase). I just use it for logistics, and leave an air of mystery about myself, and don’t come across too needy/desperate.
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:58 PM
12

Dudes spending time trying to improve their dating life on an Internet forum
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:57 PM
26

Yep, people need to start being more pragmatic about stuff like this. Yes it does bruise the ego a little to text a girl who left you on read, but it’s a an extremely low risk way high reward proposition. So much random shit can happen in someone’s life, you shouldn’t just jump to extreme conclusions that she doesn’t like you just because she missed one text. I had a girl completely ignore my text recently. I waited 4 days then texted her as if nothing had happened, and she actually apologized t…
/r/seduction31/07/22 07:56 PM
1

What was the text she didn't answer?
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:57 PM
3

Figure out your fitness (physical/mental), finances, & fun before you learn cold approach
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:44 PM
4

She missed 1 text out of 100s...
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:34 PM
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Jfc people here overthink and self-sabotage so much, it's insane. I think the no double texting rule is super over-emphasized on here. She's been consistently replying for a while... I'd have sent a new unrelated message 3-4 days later. There's no risk and lots of potential reward. It has worked for me before. Turns out women are people too, and random shit gets in the way of them responding. It shows a major lack of confidence to assume the worst because she missed literally 1 text. You were te…
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:32 PM
5

Yes. Numbers are practically meaningless. It isn't that hard to get one.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:34 AM
1

The motivation is free drinks and validatin
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:32 AM
1

I would personally not care. I'm the one fucking her at the end of the night while those dudes are just fanttasizing. If I find out she cheats, it's over, but I'm not going to push her out the door by being insecure and controlling.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:30 AM
1

I don't think it takes 10 approaches to get one number, rather somewhere around 4-5.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:28 AM
1

Well if you can get 10 numbers a week (completely realistic if you do 5+ approaches a day), that's 2 dates a week.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:23 AM
6

Sounds too me like you need to lower your standards for going on dates. You're waiting a month to catch feelings with someone who already established their interest for you. So just decide in that moment: am I attracted enough to this guy to go on a date (it's a binary decision, yes or no). If yes, go on a date, if no, reject him. You don't have to be in love to go on a date or even have sex, the dating and sex is part of the way you find out if you love someone.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:20 AM
7

For the record, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about (coming in here ridiculing people despite having gotten only 1 number in 43 approaches lmao). 1 in 6 is very normal.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:14 AM
1

To just get a phone number (even if it doesn't go anywhere)? Should usually happen within the first 10 approaches unless they had extreme approach anxiety. I think my first number was in my first 5 approaches.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:12 AM
11

Reading this guy's responses to comments on here it's clear his personality is off and that's the issue. Very argumentative and know-it-all, not open to feedback.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:10 AM
1

To go on a date. And with some of them, I do. It's just not a guarantee, no matter how well the interaction goes, that she'll actually follow through with a date, even if she explicitly agrees to go on the date, and you'll learn this when you actually get more than just one girl's number.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:09 AM
3

You've made 43 approaches and gotten 1 number and you're out here calling others' results shitty? It's just the nature of this style of approach, you have a lot of short interactions with complete strangers that temporarily peaks their interest, but only a small subset of them are interested enough to actually meet up for a proper date. Do more than 43 approaches and you'll see this.
/r/seduction31/07/22 04:03 AM
1

Personal experience
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:58 AM
1

That's not how it works. You'll probably at best be looking at 2/10 numbers converting to dates. Even girls who agree to a date in person will flake. That's why people say getting a number is almost meaningless, it's all about what happens from there.
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:43 AM
18

Only getting 1 number in 43 approaches is probably a sign there's something majorly off about how you are approaching or presenting yourself. In my experience, most single girls give out their number really easily.
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:41 AM
12

Exposure thearpy. Go to the nearest college campus when it's in session and start a convo with 10 girls by simply asking for directions (or something else indirect like asking to borrow a pen or asking her to watch over your stuff while you go to the bathroom). After doing this, do 10 more where you simply lead with a compliment.
/r/seduction30/07/22 05:19 PM
9

Got to be more arrogant. She was easy to sleep with for you. Especially when you’re in the shoes of a guy like op has put in the work on himself 90% of dudes haven’t. Assuming she’s a massive slut because she slept with you on the first date is just all sorts of unhealthy mental gymnastics. People like to fuck hot people they click with. Op is hot and clicked with them, so they fucked.
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:18 PM
1

Simple, if you like younger women, keep fresh on younger culture. Watch new tv shows, listen to new music, follow memes, etc
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:33 PM
13

True, but also completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Just because it’s something easy for her to do doesn’t mean she’s automatically not girlfriend material. The level of challenge she had to go through to get you is completely irrelevant to how well she is suited for you? You’d rather date a girl who makes you work 4 dates to have sex than a girl who’s a straight shooter and is willing to hookup early on? Doesn’t make sense.
/r/seduction29/07/22 06:31 PM
3

Just say hi to her one day in the library and see where things go
/r/seduction29/07/22 05:09 PM
5

Bro it’ll be fine. Who knows maybe she’ll give you her number Monday. At least you had the balls to take action unlike all the dudes laughing at you. Be proud of yourself.
/r/seduction29/07/22 04:27 PM
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Why not? There in lies your issue. You’re judging these girls for hooking up with you whilst you’re hooking up with them. Doesn’t make sense. News flash: girls like sex with good looking guys. You automatically ruling a girl out as a long term partner because she has some fun with you on the first date is going to really limit your dating scope, and likely make you wind up with a less fun girl. Take some time to examine why you think like this and consider if it’s a productive mindset.
/r/seduction29/07/22 03:59 PM
2

Yeah, there are days where the completion just feels overwhelming. Like I have to be 100% perfect or I’ll die alone. It’s a very unforgiving dating market rn.
/r/seduction29/07/22 02:20 AM
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This isn't necessarily true. Men peak in their appeal & smv well into their 30s.
/r/seduction28/07/22 10:58 PM
29

I think I’m misunderstanding you bro, you’ve said that word implication a couple times. What implication?
/r/seduction28/07/22 12:49 PM
15

running into girls who rejected you again is just an unavoidable part of dating if you’re using the type of strategies this sub pushes. You just got to be respectful and act as though nothing had happened.
/r/seduction28/07/22 12:37 PM
29

Doesn’t even need to be 10-15 minutes persay. Shorter is actually usually better weirdly enough, keeps the mystery and makes her feel safer
/r/seduction27/07/22 06:47 PM
3

I think it’s fine as a last resort. It shows you have empathy: you see she’s busy and you aren’t going to creepily linger waiting for her video call to end, but you’re still confident enough to attempt to meet her in a respectful way. Update us if she texts you.
/r/seduction27/07/22 05:10 PM
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Good job bro, that’s all it takes. Simple conversation, see if they’re sharing lots of info/asking a lot about you, and grab the number of the ones who are. Doesn’t have to be complicated.
/r/seduction27/07/22 04:48 PM
1

When you’ve got unlimited options a swipe away, you get to be insanely picky
/r/seduction27/07/22 03:50 PM
2

I live in a college town and end up meeting a lot of girls on a pre-health trajectory that are working 15+ hours, studying for classes & admissions tests, volunteering, and shadowing at the same time, which comes out to way more than 60 hour weeks. Most young professionals these days are at least doing 50 if they’re making it anywhere, especially in business fields like accounting and finance. Do you know many intelligent/college educated women? The vast majority I know are working kinda crazy h…
/r/seduction27/07/22 01:58 PM
2

Lmao, you’ve got a really narrow perspective then
/r/seduction27/07/22 01:23 PM
16

Yeah for real. Op bragging so hard about doing a few weeks of 12 hour shifts and being “busy” when for a shitload of the women he’s claiming aren’t actually busy are working more than that and juggling other priorities. Especially when they’re like college aged and balancing work, school, social life, etc…
/r/seduction26/07/22 11:38 PM
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I think this argument is somewhat reductive and inaccurate. Yes there will be legitimate scenarios where a woman is too busy to meet. Working 12 hour shifts isn’t even that busy compared to how busy some can get. The important part is whether she suggest other times when she rejects one time.
/r/seduction26/07/22 07:38 PM
5

No, I would never date someone I’ve never met in person. A relationship without physical intimacy is a friendship.
/r/seduction26/07/22 05:03 PM
1

Not every man takes the path of an all consuming career/business. Most in fact don’t. For most dudes, it’s completely realistic to have time to both date and develop themselves
/r/seduction25/07/22 09:38 PM
1

I definitely get what you are saying and also have wasted a lot of time prioritizing chasing girls that’ll never fuck current state me no matter how good I am at cold approach too much in my life. But they don’t have to be mutually exclusive things. You can be on your grind but also approach women as you go about it.
/r/seduction25/07/22 06:54 PM
2

While it’s always a reassuring thing for me that as men we gain value as we age, and being 31 doesn’t mean the chances with college aged girls are over, that doesn’t men a self described attractive and confident guy at 21 can’t also succeed with that demographic.
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:58 PM
9

I struggle with this too, but running away from talking to girls at all isn’t the answer, it’s lowering the priority level of each one. Build an abundance mentality, where success or failure with any one in particular girl won’t be that big a deal to you.
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:57 PM
1

They aren’t mutually exclusive. You should be the priority, but you should also be approaching women as you got about your daily routine. You don’t have to set aside hours a day to focus on women, it can literally just be saying hi to the girl behind you in line at Chipotle, or across the table at the library, or beside you in class, etc No you should not choose to actively avoid pursuing women at 21 when you describe yourself as attractive and confident. Have some well earned fun.
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:54 PM
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Good job putting yourself out there. However (this isn’t just you who does this), I wouldn’t approach someone who’s working. They are doing there job, give them some space. They’re the easy low hanging fruit because they are being paid to be nice to you, but it puts them in a tough spot. There are millions out there who aren’t working to approach.
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:28 PM
1

But if you use it as a tool rather than something you mindlessly scroll through, it can actually facilitate real world social interactions. Whereas Reddit typically just leads to obsessive scrolling and getting into annoying arguments with strangers.
/r/seduction25/07/22 02:01 PM
3

What we don't talk enough about is the texting required to convert a cold approach into a date. Girls give out their number easily, but will often go cold in texting. I think there's a lot of bad advice given to guys to wait x days or be patient in texting, when in reality you want to be texting her early and often and staying fresh in her mind, trying to build rapport and quickly get her back out in person.
/r/seduction24/07/22 10:27 PM
7

If you've got enough options to make you happy through means other than cold approach, then by all means ignore it. Guys come to this sub because they don't, and in 2022 the way to stand out from the pack who uses online dating is cold approach.
/r/seduction24/07/22 10:25 PM
2

Not going to comment on Instagram game, because it's not something I'm experienced with, but will take a moment to rebuke this: "but I’m looking to get a girlfriend before I start up school and I’ll too busy to run daygame ect" That's bs. School (I assume you mean college) is the best place in the world to meet women. Join clubs, go to parties, talk to girls in classes, do daygame approaches as you go about your day, etc. I'd love to have one more chance to have the sheer access to dating option…
/r/seduction24/07/22 09:39 PM
7

I get what you're saying to an extent, it does make me cry a little bro tear when I see a guy who clearly has his shit together dating a girl who clearly doesn't. But from a logical perspective, that just makes it easier for the rest of us who are willing to get off the apps and meet in person. I'm a guy who doesn't really have his shit together rn due to some mental & physical health issues the past few years, but even when I take my obese self out to do daygame I get good responses. It's like …
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:05 PM
4

Go do this same style of approach at the mall today 5-10 times for practices and to develop an abundance mindset.
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:11 PM
3

I feel like I've written up a plan almost exactly like this 100 times the past 18 months and have never been able to stick with it. Hopefully, we both have better luck with it soon. I really appreciate your perspective as someone close to 40, being 25 myself it reminds me that I've got time and that's always better to start now than years from now. I wish sometimes I didn't have to do all this to date. I feel like most people don't. Most people just seem to manage to stumble into an ok job, ok s…
/r/seduction24/07/22 04:55 PM
6

You're either attracted to her or you're not, weight doesn't really matter. I will say to be careful in a relationship with a girl who likes to eat a lot, I didn't and ended up fat too.
/r/seduction24/07/22 04:42 PM
1

I was going to comment this, but then I read the full post. What OP is saying is put effort into girls you approach who are putting effort into you. It makes sense.
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:37 PM
1

If you're comfortable enough in your career, fitness, fashion/hygiene, etc then the thing to improve on is putting yourself out there more.
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:36 PM
3

Reddit is the worst for me personally. It's such a massive time hog and it's extremely addictive. My life would be better without it, it's just hard to quit. Honeslty think it's way more toxic than Instagram, at least that has some real life social value at times.
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:47 AM
1

This advice is easier said than taken, but it's the conclusion I've come to after recently struggling with the same overwhelming feelings of inadequacy as you: you've got to learn to truly enjoy your life without women in it. Simple and difficult as that. Personal anecdote: I've been in a close to 1000 day dry spell with women and am getting desperate and lonely as fuck. This Tuesday, I got the number of a cute my-type girl doing cold approach and she actually responded to texting and agreed to …
/r/seduction24/07/22 03:39 AM
1

People in this generation (under 25 or so), don’t call much.
/r/seduction23/07/22 01:13 PM
2

Starting by doing indirect approaches. Asking for directions mostly.
/r/seduction23/07/22 12:35 PM
1

Make respectful chit chat and look for the earliest opportunity to eject.
/r/seduction23/07/22 12:33 PM
1

Strangers on the internet can’t really answer this question. Only she can. So ask her out (making it clear you mean it as a date)
/r/seduction22/07/22 09:11 PM
2

Strangers on the internet can’t really answer this question. Only she can. So ask her out (making it clear you mean it as a date)
/r/seduction22/07/22 09:10 PM
1

Also in general, I find texting right away rather than 2-4 days later super beneficial
/r/seduction22/07/22 06:54 PM
1

I agree with all this and abundance mentality, but I’m really just looking for the specifics on what I should be texting this specific girl.
/r/seduction22/07/22 04:29 PM
2

I mean she asked why you’re nervous around her, I think most girls are savvy enough to know why that is. Even if she doesn’t know, she’ll still respect you for shooting your shot, even if she rejects you. But again, all the context clues are saying she’s interested. Ask her out asap and let us know how it goes!
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:52 PM
10

Stop second guessing and doubting yourself and just ask her out. If she’s not into you (unlikely), then she’ll still respect you more for trying and asking her than trying to hide your obvious feelings forever out of self doubt.
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:49 PM
7

She asked if you have a girlfriend then got all up in your personal space at a club. Trust me, just ask her out.
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:42 PM
7

Dude she’s clearly interested. Shoot your shot
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:39 PM
1

No, it presents legal risk to them and would just be unethical for most of them. Keep working on yourself and in college you’ll be ahead of the game and get some chances like this.
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:11 PM
1

I’ve done hundreds of cold approaches, and only ever gotten 2 reactions even 10% that visceral. You just ran into a rude girl on a bad day, shrug it off and move on.
/r/seduction20/07/22 03:33 PM
2

Have lots of options
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:13 AM
3

Cold approach daygame is my primary source of dating opportunity. It allows me to meet women in environments I am comfortable in and doesn’t require me to force a personality type I don’t have and maintain a large and complicated social circle just to meet women.
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:11 AM
1

Heard of line breaks?
/r/seduction19/07/22 12:10 AM
21

You bother reading the post at all? He has a well paying finance job and could afford to move out. He lives at home because his family needs financial help. I’m in the same spot as him and it’s beyond frustrating how people jump to the conclusion that you’re broke and lazy because you live at home when it’s actually because you’re looking out for struggling loved ones. It is a negative on dating for sure, but I’d rather my mom have a roof over her head than my dating life be a bit better. Some s…
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:20 PM
9

I really like to be properly rejected. It reinforces to me that I’m doing several positive things I need to be doing: (a) taking action, (b) conveying my intent clearly enough that she knows I’m asking her out, (c) making her comfortable enough in the interaction that she doesn’t think if she rejects me she’ll be in danger. Additionally, I really respect women who are so upfront about rejection like that. It hurts a lot less than getting the number, getting excited for a date, then being ghosted…
/r/seduction17/07/22 02:36 PM
3

Lmao plenty of people older than you have a count of 0. You’re 19 and in college, get out of your head and just enjoy the abundance of dating opportunities smacking you in your face every time you walk out your dorm.
/r/seduction16/07/22 03:21 PM
1

I have brought a girl over, but it was once we were in a relationship. Feels weird bringing girls around your parents who you aren’t serious about.
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:29 PM
8

Yes, such typical serial killer MO to be openly texting his next victim about the site he plans to kill her at. Definitely how these guys go about not getting caught. That being said, trail is pretty high pressure for a first date, and when she suggested brining the friend, he should’ve just switched up the date location to something more public. Perhaps rock climbing at the gym or something like that.
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:27 PM
1

Don’t hang out with the friend, that just completely blows the frame of it being a date. He could’ve instead just said, “if you’re uncomfortable hiking one in one, let’s go (insert less high pressure an activity) instead. Just the two of us though.”
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:25 PM
1

For sure. It’s happened to me before and it’s just so disrespectful for a girl to try to invite another guy to your date. The girl played like she didn’t realize I was asking her on a date, but what else would a guy asking a girl he just met and approached and directly complimented to hang out solo for food be? This sort of behavior just wreaks of sarcasm to me. She knew it was supposed to be a date, but because I didn’t say the word date, rather than reject me because she wasn’t interested, she…
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:23 PM
2

I’ve experienced this same thing way too often. I guess it’s because from our pov as men we’d never ask a girl to a solo activity without it being a date, but girls tend to have lots of guy friends they would. Makes for some challenging miscommunications if you don’t explicitly state it’s a date.
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:20 PM
4

From context, it seems to me like OP and his date ran in the same social circle, so not exactly a cold approach.
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:18 PM
0

Not necessarily, inviting friends on the date is a common shit test girls use. By far the most annoying shit test there is though.
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:17 PM
7

I think that “I don’t like having people at my house I don’t know” was where you went wrong. That’s just a kinda odd mindset, most people don’t share that sentiment, especially when a friend vouches for them. I’d have just responded with some silly shit like the location of the nearest bicycle shop. When she said “huh?” I’d have responded “buy him a tricycle if he wants to third wheel.”
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:14 PM
4

This has happened to me before and it’s one of the rare things where I just instantly next a girl for doing it. It either shows that she’s playing games (shit test) or that’s she’s too cowardly to just outright reject your date offer so she’s trying to act like she thought it was more casual. Either way it’s just annoying and childish behavior that I don’t want to engage with.
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:09 PM
1

this is awful advice. He should focus on finding a girl who lives on her own so he can go to her place. One of them needs a place of their own.
/r/seduction16/07/22 02:01 PM
1

(25) For me, it’s not that it turns girls off (I think most half decent girls understand there are many valid reasons to be at home in your 20s), but it’s a logistical nightmare. I can’t really pull girls back to mine, so unless she’s got her own place and a living situation conducive to bringing a guy over, my car is the only option. If she also lives at home, which is increasingly common at my age because inflation, then we just flat out aren’t compatible. But I live at home because my parents…
/r/seduction16/07/22 01:58 PM
1

I’d take it as a compliment that they can tell you’re intelligent enough to succeed in such a competitive and well paid field.
/r/seduction15/07/22 03:48 PM
116

Just make sure to understand in doing this that getting an IG in 30 seconds is no guarantee of anything. Especially when you spend no time to build rapport, daygame has a very high flake rate. You’ll likely have to have 100 interactions like this to get 20 numbers to get 10 to respond to one text, to get 4 on a coffee date, to maybe have a relationship with 1. Worth it imo, as 1 relationship is greater than the 0 you’d have without it, just temper your expectations a little about how great a 30 …
/r/seduction14/07/22 04:29 PM
1

That wouldn’t be a problem if they used online dating as merely a supplement to cold approach and social circle game, as I’m suggesting by comparing it to passive income.
/r/seduction13/07/22 09:58 PM
19

There’s still a massive contingent of daygamers on here, it’d just be absolutely foolish to not try to maximize your online profiles in 2022 and generate some “passive income” from them.
/r/seduction13/07/22 04:20 PM
68

I’d say the idea that there needs to be a “pua” community or even the term “pua” at all is dead. Modern advice is focused way more on self development and internal growth
/r/seduction13/07/22 04:19 PM
4

As much as you can realistically do. Ideally close to a thousand in a year. If you are fit and do cs, you’ve got your life together, now all you need to do is put in the volume. Don’t shy away from online dating either. Hire a photographer to get some great photos of you that show of your personality, fitness, and success.
/r/seduction13/07/22 11:38 AM
1

For women, by far the easiest way is to just start an online dating profile and lower standards a bit.
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:34 AM
1

I just always gear the convo towards common interests and then ask if she wants to do one of them together. For instance, I’m big into music, so I’d be talking about what type of music she likes, and then riff of that to say “this band is coming to town x day, I think you’d like them. Want to see them with me?”
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:32 AM
9

In my experiences cold approaching for several years, a girl is almost never going to hunt you down to offer her number like that, but kudos if true. I love the “can I borrow a pen” opener, it’s started so many great conversations at the library for me. I love “can you watch my stuff while I go to the bathroom?” as well.
/r/seduction13/07/22 02:28 AM
3

Tinder works way better in foreign countries + doesn’t waste time you could be using to sight see on cold approach. Should also help filter out the language barrier
/r/seduction12/07/22 08:10 PM
6

Fastest way? Bars. Daygame Alternative: Drive to the nearest large public college campus and spam cold approach day in day out and you’ll inevitably find multiple people down to meet up for a date, and from there if you have enough dates one will eventually fuck you. The most long run efficient, though it may take 3-6 months to show any results, is self improvement.
/r/seduction11/07/22 09:09 PM
28

Dating apps (w/ an optimized profile including professional photos and well thought out bios/prompts. Irl... Literally anywhere. Grocery stores, book stores, parks, college campuses, etc...
/r/seduction11/07/22 01:01 AM
1

My go to strategy when I get flaked on or a date goes bad and ends early is to just go use the time I set aside for the date to cold approach.
/r/seduction10/07/22 11:53 PM
4

Got to reframe what success is. Success is approaching.
/r/seduction08/07/22 06:07 PM
65

It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Believe she has better options and you’ll act insecure and push her toward those options. You make 6 figures, are tall/handsome, and she’s already fucking you, if that’s not enough to make you believe you’re enough for her, then that’s on you.
/r/seduction08/07/22 04:37 PM
4

Strong disagree. The dude put in work on himself the past year and she’s taking notice. Nothing wrong in a woman changing her opinion about someone when they get in shape, get mentally healthier, and start succeeding more.
/r/seduction08/07/22 04:32 PM
3

There’s a lot of truth to what you’re saying, hyperfocusing on daygame certainly hurt me a lot in college. However, I do recommend all beginners try it out for a few weeks when first learning. It builds so much self confidence and social skills and comes with absolutely zero social consequences if you fuck it up. Trial and erroring learning how to talk to women on strangers is the move, then take those skills back to warmer environments. The part about no consequences is why it’s perfect for beg…
/r/seduction07/07/22 09:33 PM
1

Personally I don’t think headphones = don’t approach me. When you listen to music in public, do you do it because you want to be left alone or because you like music? Just approach them and if their body language looks annoyed, eject. Talking on their phone would definitely be a reason to not approach.
/r/seduction07/07/22 07:17 PM
4

Is it bad that my biggest concern reading this was for your wallet/health eating at Wawa twice a day?
/r/seduction07/07/22 02:09 PM
1

I’ve come to the realization the past few weeks that daygame as a hobby is an extremely bad idea. “Sarging” as they say, just leaves me feeling empty and tilted. However, if you incorporate daygame into your daily life (approaching when you see a good opportunity as you go about your normal life), it’s super helpful and over the course of the year should get you some dates. It’s definitely something built for big cities though, rural areas and even suburbs are awful for it
/r/seduction06/07/22 07:29 PM
1

You mean you expect 30 out of 40 to just completely ignore someone who approaches them?
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:48 PM
2

Just depends on the girl. Most people I know my age would cancel on anyone, regardless of how much they want to see them, if they are feeling Covid like symptoms. People are just more conscious of spreading stuff and are more cautious because of that.
/r/seduction06/07/22 02:41 PM
3

Personally my life is in the post worrying about Covid stage, but I’m just pointing out that the pandemic has made people way more conscious about spreading illness (particularly if it’s Covid like symptoms), so someone saying they’re sick and can’t hang out is a lot more valid a reason in 2022 than 2019. I’ve canceled on plans a couple of times for this reason.
/r/seduction06/07/22 02:32 PM
1

5 numbers from 40 is actually really low. Girls give their number out so easy. It’s actually getting them out that’s the problem. If that many women are outright rejecting the number, he might need to reevaluate his approach.
/r/seduction06/07/22 12:59 PM
4

As a man, I can confidently state that it works a non-zero amount of time. Very low success rate, but if you do it enough, you eventually meet someone you connect with. Met two of my best dates through cold approach, and the skills it taught me gave me the confidence to approach a girl in my friend group (also in an out of the blue cold approach kinda way), who became my girlfriend for a while.
/r/seduction06/07/22 12:57 PM
12

5-10% getting out on a date with you would be an insane rate. 1 in 100 (1%) is much more realistic in my experience.
/r/seduction06/07/22 12:54 PM
1

40 approaches is a very small sample size. It takes hundreds of approaches to truly see if you’re capable of getting results from daygame. Try mixing up your style of approach by going indirect sometimes as well.
/r/seduction06/07/22 12:52 PM
5

In the Covid era, I would just assume she’s sick and try for a different day.
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:58 PM
33

I don’t think the typical girl a guy on this sub goes after is the blondes you describe. A large part of this sub does daygame, in large part because it lets you meet more down to earth women than you meet at clubs.
/r/seduction05/07/22 04:21 PM
2

Women do a great job of internalizing the concept that they are prize and don’t settle for less than they feel they deserve. It’s easier to do that when they dozens of options a swipe away, but it’s still a good mindset that a lot of men would benefit from taking.
/r/seduction05/07/22 02:16 PM
3

I do occasional daygame sessions and try to approach when I go out to do things I enjoy (concerts primarily), but it’s just hard to get success as an obese man (5’8” 265), even if you’ve got a lot of other stuff going for you. Obviously 100% my fault for being overweight, I know that and am working to fix it, it just means it’s harder to find success. I do believe it’s possible to have occasional success at this size (I did get one daygame approach that lead to a hookup, pre pandmeic), you just …
/r/seduction04/07/22 09:37 PM
2

There will be exceptions to any rule, but I’m saying in general it would be a net benefit for most men to have social media profiles, if they use them with intent.
/r/seduction04/07/22 07:01 PM
5

Yeah, social media is one of those big areas I just disagree with people on here about. Everyone talks about how toxic it is (despite being on Reddit, an equally toxic social media platform) and how it can ruin their mental health, but I think that’s a weak mindset. they need to reframe how they view it. Use it as a tool to show their value and connect with people (both male friends and female interests), they want to know better. Not trying to set up social media platform is just missing out on…
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:04 PM
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I don’t like this quote. Yes it’s better to overall focus on your own self development, but settings benchmarks based off of where average people your age are is a good practice to have some sort of baseline for where you need to get yourself.
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:23 PM
19

Yep. 25 years old and I got fat right after college + didn’t game at all for 18 months due to the pandemic. I’m starting to work on fixing the problem, but by the time I have the body I want I’ll be 27. Feels like I completely missed the boat on that fun time of life (22-25) where I get to have lots of casual sex with college girls who are way more into me because I’ve got my shit together (which I do other than my weight) and am more mature. I know sex doesn’t just end at 27, but I’m really reg…
/r/seduction04/07/22 05:21 PM
-3

He is still a 10 but is missing out on great opportunities to use social media as a tool to display his value and easily connect/deepen connections with women. In today’s technology age, not having a social media profile is just missing out on opportunities with women.
/r/seduction04/07/22 04:54 PM
2

Weight loss isn’t about exercise, it’s about calorie counting. In my personal experience, intense exercise often makes weight loss more difficult, as it stimulates your appetite. Tracking calories + lots of walking is the best formula for weight loss. Check with your doctor first if you have a medical condition though.
/r/seduction03/07/22 02:54 PM
6

Exposure therapy. Start by driving to a mall an hour away from your home (removes fear of social consequences for approaches that go awry) and simply ask girls for directions or the time or something simple like that. Then gradually escalate the level of difficult of approach to doing stuff like giving a compliment, then eventually having full blown conversations and asking for numbers.
/r/seduction02/07/22 01:55 AM
13

Yeah and it’s quite a scary situation for men, because we can technically be prosecuted even if she showed us the id and we believed her to be of age. However, at least in these scenarios I would have the defense that any reasonable person in my scenario would believe she’s of age, which is generally good enough to avoid punishment in most states. It’s also just too rare a situation to encounter to just shutdown my whole dating life to try to avoid.
/r/seduction01/07/22 11:18 PM
59

My favorite way is to just approach in areas where it's basically required that a woman be 18+ to be at. College campuses, bars, 18+ concerts, etc. I've approached people at places like the mall who look early 20s, and end up being 14. It's not fun, even though it's completely unintentional, you feel like a major creep, need to leave asap to avoid potential legal issues, and need a hot shower to feel clean again.
/r/seduction01/07/22 07:17 PM
1

Bruh what? I’ve done plenty of daygame on a college campus as an already graduated student and have never once gotten pepper sprayed and only a few times had girls react negatively to finding out I’m not enrolled anymore. I just give plausible (true) reasons as to why I’m there (“I’m meeting up with a friend”, “I’m thinking about going back to graduate school here and wanted to get a feel for the campus again”, “I use the alumni discount at the gym”, “studying doesn’t stop when you graduate and …
/r/seduction01/07/22 04:58 PM
1

I’m late to the party here, but I think you got a lot of shitty advice on here, low key feels like this thread got brigades by people outside the community. College campuses are daygame heaven. It doesn’t start to get creepy going to them for game until you’re 30+. The key is to have some sort of plausible reason for why you are there (mine is that I’m an alumni and get a discount on the gym and love studying at the really nice library, and still live in the area). So long as it’s a large public…
/r/seduction01/07/22 04:50 PM
2

You need to work on your confidence and get over the height hurdle. Anyone 5’6” or taller who unironically cites height as the reason they can’t date is suffering from a major self image crisis which is the true reason they can’t date. Confidence is a large part of the battle.
/r/seduction01/07/22 04:37 PM
2

There really aren’t many openers that’ll save you online if your profile isn’t extremely good (quality photos, good display of personality, you look good to begin with)
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:56 PM
1

Find a hobby. Drive to areas with a higher volume of women and cold approach.
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:54 PM
12

Women, especially ones who are in environments where rejecting you could get really awkward for them (such as their job), will often just give the number rather than reject you. If you can’t accept this, and throw a fit every time it happens to you, you’re probably not cut out for the emotional swings of daygame.
/r/seduction01/07/22 01:43 PM
3

I actually think 2022 is easier in person. The pandemic and the associated cabin fever people got has made them a lot more open to meeting new people in person.
/r/seduction30/06/22 10:12 PM
2

Setting: a college campus library Approach: do you have a pen I can borrow?
/r/seduction28/06/22 08:50 PM
1

As a fellow poker lover, I agree. I think specifically poker tournaments make a really good comparison to daygame cold approach. You only get in the money (the number) 15% of the time, and even less often do you make the big payouts for the top 3 or so (sex). But you have to play in an aggressive style (polarization/flirtation) to accumulate a chip stack (sexual attraction) to make those deep runs (first dates) turn into legitimate chances of winning the tourney (sex/ltr)
/r/seduction28/06/22 08:47 PM
1

Is she obviously in a hurry? Is the setting dark and isolated or otherwise a setting in which approaching a stranger could intimidate them? Is she clearly out with her so? If no to all these, approach away.
/r/seduction28/06/22 06:37 PM
1

Approaching becomes a lot easier, and feels way less creepy, when you stop viewing it as something you go out to do, and rather something you just do naturally when the opportunity comes up. I rarely leave a daygame “sarge” season feeling good about myself, whereas I always feel great when I shoot my shot with a girl I encountered on the course of my day. So, go to the gym to exercise, and take opportunities as they somewhat naturally arise. If you go there with the idea of approaching girls in …
/r/seduction28/06/22 06:34 PM
1

I personally think this isn't the best idea. Texting her to confirm at all accomplishes nothing, it only opens the door for her to have any easy excuse to flake (even if she wasn't planning to). I personally think it produces a lot better results to just not text anything and assume she will show unless she reaches out to say otherwise. I don't send a confirmation text to my male friends when we hang out, I trust them enough to know they'll show or reach out to me if they can't.
/r/seduction28/05/22 09:04 PM
2

My personal favorite method is to just not text her at all on the day of the date. I'm not going open the door for her to flake, if she wants to flake she can reach out. If she stands me up, then I go cold approach instead. Easy.
/r/seduction28/05/22 09:02 PM
3

Living with your parents in your 20s sucks. I live with mine for reasons beyond my control (my mother is sick and needs the financial support from me). Makes having a healthy social and dating life difficult, mostly because my logistics for life is awful. All one can really do in this situation is keep their head down and try to use the extra free time to stay on their career & fitness grind, so when they eventually move out they can live it up.
/r/seduction16/05/22 09:58 PM
1

I would not want to have a serious relationship with a doctor. Especially one in residency. The schedule is just insane to the point of being inhumane. She won't have time to spend with me most of the time, and when she does, she'll have a lot of trauma to process from the job. Just wouldn't be compatible with my desired lifestyle, even though I respect the hell out of them.
/r/seduction16/05/22 01:59 AM
1

Unfortunately, yeah this is the case. I'm starting to hit the age (25) where just because they're legally o ld enough, doesn't mean I won't be seen as creepy for going for them. I had a good convo at this coffee shop with this girl (19) and got her number and agreed to grab dinner. She seemed really interested. Less than 5 hours later she texted me several paragraphs about how she thinks I'm too old for her and she has to cancel. Was a bummer, and a lesson that at my age, 21 is the acceptable lo…
/r/seduction15/05/22 09:24 PM
1

This might be a huge part of your problem. If you're pursuing girls within your social circle, you're missing out on a lot of cold approach and app opportunities.
/r/seduction12/05/22 07:27 PM
1

I prefer to not avoid talking about the important topics. If our politics don't align enough to at least be civil with each other in conversation, that relationship is destined to fail.
/r/seduction10/05/22 11:45 PM
1

I legitimately don't think this is as bad an idea as others do. Something like Jenga could be stimulating and help break the awkwardness/touch barrier.
/r/seduction09/05/22 05:18 PM
2

Yeah this has been getting to me a lot lately. When I was younger I embraced the challenge, but as I’m hitting my late 20s and the clock is ticking on my dating prime, it just gets absolutely emotionally exhausting to be constantly rejected, flaked on, ghosted after date 1, etc. almost happier alone than putting up with all that.
/r/seduction08/05/22 08:23 PM
1

Thank you for the response, I definitely agree I can be more calibrated in how I go about trying to find women to approach. But that being said, why isn’t this sort of topic brought up more around here for beginners. Daygame sarging, especially as taught by YouTube coaches, is just dudes walking around the same park all day looking for women to approach. If this is such a wrong thing to do, why aren’t we discussing that more?
/r/seduction28/04/22 05:22 PM
1

I love them. They’ve made most men forget how to approach in real life, which makes the rare few of us who cold approach standout even more. Less competition.
/r/seduction28/04/22 12:04 AM
1

Yeah after like 3 hours a sarging session gets unproductive and boring. I generally find the best approaches I have come when I’m on a deadline and have like one hour tops to approach before I’ve got other shit to do. I have spent whole evenings just approaching but they were so inefficient, it was like knowing I had all the time in the world to approach heightened my AA because I knew I’d get another chance later.
/r/seduction27/04/22 05:14 PM
1

Yeah I agree. Sarging does feel kinda creepy to me and it does present the risk that people can spot you doing it (I had a janitor call me out at a college library for aimless walking around for 30 minutes… mumbled something about “still haven’t found it yet?” but not sure she knew I was looking for women to approach…) and it also presents the risk that you could be perceived to be following women (especially if you see them from far away and have to try to catch up to them). Despite these drawb…
/r/seduction27/04/22 04:57 PM
1

Why not as a way to meet people even when you’re over the shyness? I’ve gotten some results from sarging in the past.
/r/seduction27/04/22 03:08 PM
1

I definitely think integrating cold approach into your life like this is the better long run strategy, but doing a little “sarging” (going out just to meet women) is a really good way to learn, and I still think it has a place in your weekly routine even if you’ve gotten to the place where you can integrate daygame into your lifestyle. You just build so much momentum when you sarge, whereas a lot of times when you’re just out and about doing other stuff the approach anxiety will wreck you from t…
/r/seduction27/04/22 01:07 PM
2

I’d like to add (11) learn lessons from your failed approaches. Far too often when I just started I kept making the same mistakes over and over again without taking a day off to evaluate if my process overall could be improved at all. I made two small improvements that really helped me get more numbers that pulled through (1) doing less instant dates and instead ending the interaction on a positive note with her excited for the date, (2) texting her right after I got the number and planning the …
/r/seduction26/04/22 10:08 PM
3

Yeah for starters they make it extremely difficult to see if a girl is attractive or not and they make it hard to speak at an audible volume.
/r/seduction26/04/22 08:19 PM
3

I don’t. Not my type.
/r/seduction26/04/22 08:14 PM
1

Do you ever find that these endless stream of hookups with night life girls gets boring and unfulfilling?
/r/seduction26/04/22 08:13 PM
1

Hot take, but I wouldn’t want to ask out a girl who lives in an adjacent state. It just seems like a recipe for a shitty relationship. Part of abundance mentality is turning down relationships that would be good because they don’t meet your logistics.
/r/seduction26/04/22 08:12 PM
3

Daygame will change your life friend. Best way to meet women stone cold sober.
/r/seduction26/04/22 08:10 PM
2

I don’t really and it’s fucking me over. In the past, therapy, medication, exercise, and saving money have helped me overcome anxiety.
/r/seduction26/04/22 07:09 PM
4

Yeah I just low key feel guilty any time I get anything from a girl I don’t find intelligent. Feels like manipulation.
/r/seduction26/04/22 05:44 PM
7

I wish intelligence wasn’t such a turn on for me, it would make finding partners a lot easier
/r/seduction26/04/22 05:38 PM
24

They are also just painfully dumb which makes conversation difficult
/r/seduction26/04/22 04:57 PM
3

While I think a lot of what you’re saying is hyperbole, the general tone of your message that online dating is overall just connecting the top 10% of men with a steady flow of chicks to bang and never call back is accurate. It’s why cold approach is such a powerful tool for meeting people for the rest of us.
/r/seduction26/04/22 03:45 PM
70

Conservative women come with a whole other set of challenges, I don’t recommend. I also think it’s dumb for men on a subreddit where casual hookups are glorified to be limiting himself to dating women without a history of doing the same sort of thing. It’s just needlessly limiting your dating pool.
/r/seduction26/04/22 03:43 PM
3

I struggle with this too tbh, when you don't share many interests it can be tough to find a common one. A good step 1 that made my convos more interesting is trying to make the convo about her more than me and figuring out if I even like her to begin with. From there, I like to veer the topic to something I'm passionate about (music/concerts for example).
/r/seduction25/04/22 05:53 PM
7

Best to view dating apps as passive income and approaching as active income. Both have their merits on here
/r/seduction25/04/22 03:49 PM
13

I keep saying this when people ask this question, but in my experience I’ve found it best to lean into what suits me. I’m never going to be a super social butterfly, they would be incongruent to my personality. That doesn’t mean I have to be celibate. You can meet women through cold approach and apps and just be a nerdy guy the rest of the time. Cold approach in particular is the cheat code to be nerdy and still meet women.
/r/seduction25/04/22 02:26 PM
1

I used to be very firmly against this idea, but life experience has pushed me towards considering it. Rejection is mentally tilting, and that sort of tilt can really throw you off in other areas and detract from your progress. So if there’s so major issues you have that you need to work on, I definitely think that it’s valid to take a break from dating to try to keep yourself in a good mood and fix them.
/r/seduction24/04/22 05:29 PM
8

“Girls” don’t. This girl did. You’re trying to create a trend out of an insufficient sample size.
/r/seduction23/04/22 12:52 PM
4

Since you're a woman, you don't need to over complicate things. Just take cute photos of yourself and make a Hinge profile. You will be drowning in male attention in hours.
/r/seduction23/04/22 04:07 AM
2

Best spot to approach women is the public areas of college campuses. Best line imo is something situational. Or when you can’t think of a situational opener, then a compliment of some piece of her clothing.
/r/seduction22/04/22 10:57 PM
1

I personally don't hit on service people or workers because it feels incongruent with abundance mentality. Why bother someone who's being paid to be nice to you and could be put into major awkward professional situations by your advances when you can go hit on millions of women not in that situation? I also think media way over glorifies the idea of "picking up the cute barista." Why does a barista, who's not very developed in her career get to be the most desirable woman out there to men? What'…
/r/seduction22/04/22 07:35 PM
1

You are probably rushing these interactions then and not building enough comfort before going for the kiss. Happens to all of us so don't beat yourself up over it, but just know moving forward in the future that you need to calibrate your escalation better.
/r/seduction21/04/22 01:42 PM
2

It’s just weird to compliment a strangers body parts. Even hair compliments have gotten me weird reductions in the past. It’s better to pick something she chose about herself as it shows an interest in her.
/r/seduction20/04/22 07:31 PM
2

No body parts should be complimented. Clothing, specific items of clothing that you like
/r/seduction20/04/22 07:23 PM
5

No, that would be extremely weird
/r/seduction20/04/22 07:02 PM
21

I’ve been both fat and fit in my life (currently fat, the past 3 years have been really poor for me). And while on average more women were interested in my cold approach when I was fit, I find that as an older and more confident fat person I’m actually in general doing better when I do get girls to go out with me. I don’t recommend being fat, it sucks, but if you learn to be confident in your value beyond your weight along with slowly working on fixing your weight, you can still get occasional r…
/r/seduction20/04/22 05:32 PM
9

You are being too indirect and not expressing your intent, so they are understandable confused. Try opening with a compliment about her clothes.
/r/seduction20/04/22 05:04 PM
1

Good enough to game? When you’re confident enough that the variance of rejection and bad dates won’t lead you to doing activities that lead towards losing progress in the areas you are working on.
/r/seduction19/04/22 06:37 PM
1

I would just pretend I didn’t see it and keep proceeding. If anything, it shows you she has insecurities just like you despite having such a large social media following.
/r/seduction11/04/22 06:26 PM
26

This is one of the biggest mistakes I made when I was just getting started. I’d wait 2-3 days to text the girls I met because that was some sort of rule. Don’t do that. When you cold approach someone especially, you have to build momentum quickly. Text them while you are still standing with them (even just something simple like nice meeting you). Then ask them out the very next day, preferably for 2-3 days at most from then. Keep pushing it forward and quickly, time is your enemy when you meet l…
/r/seduction11/04/22 05:09 PM
1

I struggle with something similar. Every time I get close to closing a date that started through cold approach I feel guilty. Like even though it’s 100% logical that a man would want to seek out the companionship of a woman, it just feels disingenuous to sarge daygame and approach every hot woman you see and go through with the ones who are into it. Just feels unnatural despite being the most natural thing ever. Like I’m deceiving her, even though at the end of the day I’m just being honest and …
/r/seduction11/04/22 04:55 PM
4

I kinda disagree with this. If you’re an introvert and don’t get joy from going out at night, then it’s a perfectly legitimate strategy to just put all your eggs into the daygame basket and try to meet girls at places like coffee shops, book stores, college campuses, etc where you can have a deeper convo and don’t have to be in a hyper social environment that overwhelms you.
/r/seduction11/04/22 02:10 PM
2

You’re going to have to go into more depth about your routine for anyone to be able to offer better insights.
/r/seduction11/04/22 02:08 PM
9

I’m speaking specifically to it’s merits for introverts, not it’s overall success rate. It allows you to choose when you do and don’t want to be social, and you get to meet people when your energy allows it. You don’t have to maintain this exhausting large social circle, you can just go talk to girls when you’re in the mood and do your introverted hobbies the rest of the time.
/r/seduction11/04/22 01:11 PM
26

Cold approach is the perfect way to meet girls as introvert.
/r/seduction11/04/22 12:04 AM
2

You're young bro, don't sweat it. Your dating prime won't even start for at least half a decade. Plenty of time to get experience.
/r/seduction10/04/22 11:41 PM
0

That’s still a really small sample to draw conclusions from.
/r/seduction10/04/22 12:34 PM
3

Being angry is probably hurting a lot of your approaches. I won’t lie and say I don’t occasionally get upset when an approach goes poorly, but you can’t just be constantly in a state of anger at women that you’re not getting results. Daygame is a long-run activity that you will have to weather substantial variance to find success in. There will be weeks with every girl looks at you like a creep for approaching. There will be weeks where you get a lot of numbers and they all flake. But then there…
/r/seduction10/04/22 12:33 PM
1

"Anyway long story short, I get this girl I dont know well to come with me. Its just the two of us. During the movie I jokingly say "This seems kinda like a date" and she literally says "Well do you want it to be?" I said idk and she just giggled." Don't say idk. Say, "a date" confidently and while keeping good eye contact.
/r/seduction10/04/22 12:18 AM
1

It's not creepy, but I imagine it'll be ineffective.
/r/seduction09/04/22 03:17 AM
10

Talk to other people and ignore her for a while. Then maybe throw one more feeler text her way in a month or so.
/r/seduction08/04/22 08:24 PM
1

(1) see a therapist or talk to a trusted friend/family member. (2) in my personal experience, rejection started to hurt less when I got rejected more. If you go get rejected by 20 random women doing a cold approach next week, by the end of the week you’ll just shrug off rejection.
/r/seduction08/04/22 06:16 PM
9

Unfortunately, yes. You would not believe the sheer amount of women who despite you cold approaching them out of the blue with a compliment and asking them to do a one on one activity typically associated with dating together, will still not get the hint that you meant it at as a date. Has happened to me like half a dozen time, I try to use the word date now.
/r/seduction08/04/22 12:40 AM
1

To me it’s sounds like she’s asking you to set her friend up with one of your male friends.
/r/seduction08/04/22 12:38 AM
1

I for one give advice without getting much (still more than I would've got if I hadn't learnt this stuff). My reasoning is that I've learned a lot of what not to do, and quite often my advice is centered around avoiding doing things that have harmed my game in the past. There's merit in someone giving advice on what not to do.
/r/seduction07/04/22 07:44 PM
15

Obviously it's college campuses. And honestly, the best time to daygame a college campus is when you've already graduated, not when you're a student, as you just avoid a lot of the reputational risk.
/r/seduction07/04/22 12:57 AM
4

This is trash advice. Be a man who values himself enough to not stay with a woman who won’t provide emotional support.
/r/seduction06/04/22 09:30 PM
1

Which at the end of the day is just trial and error and learning to be more outcome independent so you can tailor interactions to what’s called for in the moment rather than generic advice
/r/seduction06/04/22 07:29 PM
5

Which is not even remotely a sustainable solution to calming down for daygame
/r/seduction06/04/22 07:27 PM
8

I think learning to read the room is the most important thing in game. Every time I bog myself down with a firm rule I end up missing opportunities. For ex, recently I had one of my best approaches in a while. Girl seemed absolutely thrilled I approached and even invited me to stay longer when I said I don’t want to take up to much of her time. Easily could’ve pushed for an instadate there but settled for the number because I made it a rule for myself to not instadate after having a few awful on…
/r/seduction06/04/22 07:25 PM
2

Even as someone who as an overall negative view of dating apps, I disagree. They just shouldn’t be your only source of prospects. It’s like passive income. You should be doing the main job (daygame/social circle), but getting that bonus income for just setting some money aside is nice.
/r/seduction06/04/22 04:27 PM
1

That amount of money is absolutely wasted on a dating coach, unless you're someone who has that kind of money to spare.
/r/seduction06/04/22 02:47 AM
1

It makes sense that accumulated rejection over a consistent period of time would hurt, I’m just saying individual rejections become easier to deal with in a vacuum.
/r/seduction05/04/22 07:17 PM
16

If you’re someone who remotely takes rejection personally or struggles to get over it, you’re simply not putting in the volume. There’s no way you can approach 100 girls in a month and not come out the other end of it with a numbness to rejection.
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:55 PM
42

It doesn't hurt to have one. Everyone always talks about how social media is bad for their mental health, and I think they're just using it wrong. Stop mindlessly scrolling and looking at thirst traps and instead only log on to post quality photos of yourself and friends having fun, and to occasionally keep up with your friend's stories and reply to them (especially the women you're interested in stories). I think turning away the potential benefits of having good social media profiles because y…
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:03 AM
20

If you’re “him”, maybe you have a 5% success rate.
/r/seduction04/04/22 11:09 PM
59

"Or at least 95% success rate" This does not exist in dating, even for the highest value people. Dating is a number games.
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:21 PM
2

Just wait for a silence in the convo when you’re in an isolated location and go for it. Really no way about it, you just have to go for it.
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:29 PM
1

Yes I am. I realized a couple weeks ago that cold approach and OLD was doing more harm to my mental health than I could handle, so I decided to massively scale back on it (I still want to occasionally get out there and cold approach, but I view it as more for fun than expecting any results out of it. But for me, I have a lot more work to do on myself than the average person. I'm very obese, my career is falling greatly short of my potential, and I have some persistent mental health issues (anxie…
/r/seduction04/04/22 05:18 PM
3

Depends. If it's a girl I know well who I asked out after a long period of friendship (this usually doesn't happen for me), a reason would give me some peace of mind. If it's a cold approach, I'd like to just be let down easy and then go about my day (unless I did something seriously wrong with the approach, in which case I wouldn't mind feedback).
/r/seduction04/04/22 04:02 PM
2

Why do you even have to ask this? Obviously they do.
/r/seduction04/04/22 03:13 PM
3

Because they kept not working and I had to keep going. This was over a roughly 3.5 year period and I was on a college campus with lots of approachable women.
/r/seduction04/04/22 02:33 PM
6

As a general rule, no. In my life, the only cold approaches I got major blowback for were ones that involved me getting too physical too quick (mostly hugs) or trying to drag the interaction out too much through an instadate. Edit: also approaches where I linger too much before approaching, or have to catch up to her to approach (it feels to her too much like following). However, If a situation comes up where you’re on an instadate and things are going extremely well (she is keeping good eye con…
/r/seduction04/04/22 01:56 PM
1

I don’t keep rules like this, but in general I am not attracted to taller women. There are plenty of short women out there too, women over 5’7” are way above average height.
/r/seduction04/04/22 12:41 PM
12

You are 5’7” moron. That’s above average height. Maybe stop scapegoating all your issues on height.
/r/seduction04/04/22 11:20 AM
1

I think that if you’re insecure enough about yourself to do something stupid like this, you probably have a lot bigger problems in getting women than your height.
/r/seduction04/04/22 11:18 AM
1

Tinder can be use as part of an effective dating strategy, but it can’t be all you rely on. Cold approach, other apps, social circle, events, volunteering, etc need to be a part of that strategy. If you want success on Tinder specifically, maximize your chances. Get professional grade photos taken and write up a good bio. Invest in Tinder Gold and use your super likes wisely.
/r/seduction03/04/22 10:14 PM
12

Can you sell me on hiking? It clearly is a hobby that has high social value, but I just can’t seem to get into it. It seems so unstimulating walking in paths in the middle of nowhere for hours on end.
/r/seduction03/04/22 09:25 PM
1

Go to college (study a TEM major). Meet girls through student orgs and the occasional cold approach on campus.
/r/seduction03/04/22 07:34 PM
12

Cold approach
/r/seduction02/04/22 03:10 PM
2

If you are above 5'5, you should not be worried about your height.
/r/seduction02/04/22 01:19 AM
8

Which tbh is the best time to game on a college campus. When you’ve already graduated, you avoid all the reputational risk and you get unlimited access to approachable women.
/r/seduction01/04/22 08:58 PM
3

I wouldn’t call this college game. More daygame that happens to be on a college campus.
/r/seduction01/04/22 08:37 PM
3

I think being a graduated employee rather than a student or just a random community member makes approaching a big no go at a college campus. Just makes it so easy for an awkward situation to arise that could threaten your job.
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:17 PM
1

I don’t think you have to put it so crudely. Just leave it at “two consenting adults can do what they want, though the older one should exercise some responsibility to try to not abuse any power dynamics that might exist.”
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:14 PM
1

I could see how someone could think this, but to me it seems this dude is brutally honest with his intentions and about his age/life situation. Doesn’t seem to be any exploitation or manipulation going on, he wants to hookup with college aged girls and they want to hookup with him. I don’t see much room for power dynamic abuse or manipulation here since he is so forthright with his intent.
/r/seduction01/04/22 07:09 PM
1

Variance
/r/seduction01/04/22 06:13 PM
0

It’s not that I’m not good enough for them. We are just in different seasons of life. I’ve got work to do on myself to reach my personal and professional goals that’s my priority rn and a more serious relationship doesn’t suit that. I very how much have a mindset of a college student more than a young professional rn. I’m not looking for someone to settle down and build a life with, I’m looking for someone to have fun with for what little free time I have whilst vigorously pursuing self developm…
/r/seduction01/04/22 03:52 PM
2

This is the issue then. Dating success is volume x efficiency of each approach. You’re high on efficiency, but low on volume. Seems you know what you have to do to fix it.
/r/seduction01/04/22 12:09 AM
13

This. I could see how major power dynamic abuse could come into play if an older man is dating a younger girl seriously, but just fooling around is harmless. You’re both adults and having some fun.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:53 PM
3

It just depends on how you are going about it. If you’re honest and forthright with your intentions and don’t attempt to abuse power dynamics to get her to be with you, I don’t see the problem.
/r/seduction31/03/22 11:52 PM
2

Losing weight would help. As an overweight guy myself though, it’s not a compete game killer. My biggest question for you is how often do you approach? You can’t expect results if you don’t put in volume.
/r/seduction31/03/22 10:52 PM
3

I hear this a lot when this gets brough up, and I feel like it's a flawed logic based off of assumptions that might not be true. Not every relationship has huge power dynamics involved, not every relationship is super serious. The value proposition of every relationship is different. Sure if it's was a 40 year old guy showering a college freshman with gifts so she'd marry him, that's kinda creepy and exploitative. But if it's a 25-35 year old guy just looking to have fun with that girl, nothing …
/r/seduction31/03/22 08:27 PM
22

It just really depends on the two people. You deem they have nothing to talk about it and different maturity levels, but it's up to the people dating to decide on those things for themselves. I'm 25 and I find that my maturity level and priorities actually align pretty well with girls around 19. I'm looking for something casual and fun, so are they. I don't have the money or the time to get into a serious relationship with a girl my age.
/r/seduction31/03/22 08:19 PM
1

Yeah, it's frustrating. I'm 25 and find myself most interested in girls 18-22, and despite them being adults, I get roasted about it a lot whenever I admit it. Hell even when I was a senior in college at 22 I got looked at weirdly when I went out with a freshman. I have a policy that two consenting adults should be able to do what they want, and it's a shame a lot of people don't have enough respect for younger women to let them make their own dating decisions without judgement. People mostly ra…
/r/seduction31/03/22 08:17 PM
2

Sounds to me like she just wants to date casually for now. So drop the talk of feelings and just physically escalate and have fun.
/r/seduction31/03/22 03:09 PM
24

Sometimes this is the best approach. Short and sweet, very direct. I think a lot of people on here get way too caught up with the idea of building rapport and escalating the first interaction. Sometimes leaving a lot of mystery and just leaving is the best. It’s a hitting on and run.
/r/seduction31/03/22 03:00 PM
1

No, you’re life is competent over because you haven’t kissed a girl at 20 /s.
/r/seduction31/03/22 02:49 PM
11

I'm just laughing my ass off at the idea of a hundred millionaire supserstar chilling on his yacht, drinking a finely aged wine, eating a meal worth more than your car, and reading some random guy on Reddit calling him a simp. The lesson from this incident isn't "don't be a simp." The lesson is raise your social value so high that when you want to defend the honor of your loved ones, you can get away with it, even if it is assaulting someone on live television.
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:36 PM
2

Yes. I struggle with anxiety and depression that also comes with the side effect of binge eating. I’m obese because of it. Hurts the shit out of my game. I’m trying to improve myself some I’m happier and better with girls, but every time I eventually get derailed by anxiety, depression, lack of sleep, or binge eating. I need to seek therapy.
/r/seduction30/03/22 01:40 AM
1

"It seems like you have to be a careless person who chases instant gratification in order to get women..." It's actually quite the opposite. The thing that gives you biggest advantage in seduction are being in extremely good shape, which is prime delayed gratification activity.
/r/seduction29/03/22 05:59 PM
6

Then take a break and put some work into yourself. Maybe even a whole year. But don't just give up on seeking out companionship. Rejection is incredibly tiring, but it's worth it when it finally works out.
/r/seduction28/03/22 03:24 PM
11

I don't think this is a long-term healthy mindset. Yes it's relaxing to take a break from trying to approach girls on a regular basis, I'm doing this rn actually after getting burnt out from rejection. But there's two ways you can go about it: (1) ignoring girls because you realize you need to work on yourself before you're ready for a relationship, (2) ignoring girls because you're giving up on yourself and your goal of finding companionship. Sounds to me like you're more the latter category. D…
/r/seduction28/03/22 03:23 PM
1

Variance. Your sample size is too low to draw conclusions.
/r/seduction26/03/22 02:06 AM
8

Cold approach works best for the men who wouldn’t seek it out (ie: confident, fit, & successful men). The majority of people who come through this sub (myself included rn tbh)would be better served putting any effort they’d spend into learning daygame into first bettering their fitness, career, and social skills generally until they reach a certain baseline level (set tangible goals for them as to not be perpetually not there yet). I’ve just wasted so much time trying to grind daygame approaches…
/r/seduction24/03/22 11:43 PM
1

If it was just a few weeks I wouldn’t think much of it. There’s more to life and dating than just fucking, and I care about her as a human being to not change my opinion about her because she isn’t in the mood rn.
/r/seduction24/03/22 06:20 PM
1

Festivals are a really poor place to try to meet women in my experience. Focusing on women really devalues the experience that you paid premium money for. Focus on seeing the artists you like and having a great time, if something happens it happens. As most people travel from long distance for fests, odds are the people you meet there will lead to at most a porta-potty hookup of questionable consent due to the type of drugs people do at these things. It just isn't the best place to meet women. G…
/r/seduction24/03/22 03:49 PM
2

Clubs aren't fun to me. Concerts or festivals are fun, but clubs are just awful.
/r/seduction24/03/22 03:45 PM
13

This is why I prefer daygame to clubs. I would never go to a club without an agenda, as they’re just painfully not fun to me
/r/seduction24/03/22 03:23 AM
1

You can do both, they aren’t mutually exclusive. Incorporating cold approach into your routine + staging a few hours a week isn’t going to take up all your time, it’s just a fun little stress relieving hobby.
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:34 AM
1

Make it a habit to look for the flaws in the people you talk to as well. Everyone will look glorious if you just compare yourself to their highlight moments/features.
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:50 PM
1

If she’s enthusiastically replying, I don’t see the issue. Gear the convo towards shared interests and invite her to do one with you at a specific time when you get back to campus.
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:49 PM
2

You were a victim of a crime by a psychotic person. This is not a common experience one will encounter when doing respectful daygame approaches.
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:43 PM
1

Tbh, I approached probably 750-1000 girls on my 30,000 person college campus when I was there, and the worst social consequence I ever saw was a girl in my friend group warning my ex against dating me because she (sorta accurately) perceived I had a thing for Asian women (the ex didn’t break up with me over that)… and that was only because I made the mistake of approaching within my social circle a couple of times. I’m not saying not to try to manage your reputation on campus, I was likely fooli…
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:41 PM
4

The biggest fear I always hear is men are afraid of getting canceled. And I just think that’s super exaggerated. I’ve done like 1000 approaches, many of them awkward as hell, and I don’t think I’ve had any major long term social consequences from it. Worst case, you can just move to another city and start over, and 99.9 times out of 100, that won’t be necessary.
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:36 PM
1

Tbh, I think being unemployed temporarily probably helps dating if you have a reasonable amount of money in savings. The sheer amount of free time you have to focus on approaching leads to lots more results, even if the efficiency of each approach might go down because you’re unemployed.
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:33 PM
1

On the one hand, the confidence that you can land the hottest girls is going to work wonders for you. But on the other hand, you’re missing lots of great opportunities on a daily basis by not just lowering your standards a tiny bit and going for all girls you’re reasonably attracted to. So find a middle ground. I’m not a fan of rating system for women, just a binary attracted or not attracted, but lower your standards just a tad. Go for like the 6s and 7s, the girls you find cute but aren’t like…
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:32 PM
1

Why not? Have you tried it? It’s really not that hard once you get desensitized to it. Anyone can do it, especially someone who’s 6 foot tall and reasonably in shape.
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:23 PM
1

They aren’t mutually exclusive. It’s not that hard to make cold approach a part of your daily routine and to set aside a couple hours a week to sarge in a highly populated area. That being said, if your hearts not in it, it would just be a waste of time, you need confidence and the ability to take rejection in stride.
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:20 PM
0

You probably won’t be good enough for the girl you approach this is true. This can be made better in the long run by self improvement, but in the interim, volume is everything. If you approach 1000 girls in the next year, and get rejected or flaked on 990 times, that’s 10 dates you just got that you didn’t have before. The odds of finding girls whose standards you meet goes up with every approach you do.
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:15 PM
1

Imo, the best strategy is to do a little bit of everything. Get professional photos taken of you and make great dating profiles across multiple sites. Talk to girls irl as you go about your day and maybe even set aside a few hours a week to go out with the intent of approaching. Build a strong social circle and meet girls through it. It’s all about abundance, knowing you have another option so that you get obsessed with no option in particular. It’s fine if you’re not willing to, but you came he…
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:11 PM
1

That’s a mentality you need to weed out. It’s weak. I struggle with it too in certain areas (particularly my career) and I can say first hand it’s not healthy. Life is a massive competition, sure it’s one where you can cooperate with others to make it less painfully competitive, but at the end of the day If you’re not willing to put yourself out there and get what you want, it’s never going to fall out of the sky into your lap.
/r/seduction21/03/22 10:01 PM
3

Yes. Cold approach can work if you’re willing to put in a high volume of approaches and can take frequent in person rejection in stride.
/r/seduction21/03/22 09:57 PM
7

I struggle with this to an extent, but you have to reframe it and think about it logically: one successful approach in 100 (I define success as going on a date with her), is still more dates than you would’ve had sitting at home. When I get super fatigued from the rejection, I just know it’s time to take a break and focus on some other areas of life for a week or two.
/r/seduction20/03/22 09:50 PM
2

Like most good things in life, it’s utterly exhausting until you start getting results
/r/seduction20/03/22 03:26 AM
2

Just depends on the girl
/r/seduction20/03/22 03:09 AM
1

Please don’t use force
/r/seduction20/03/22 03:08 AM
2

If you can come up with something situational, that’s ideal (ex: you’re at a concert and you ask her what her favorite song by the band is). Otherwise, what works best for me is just complimenting something she’s wearing.
/r/seduction20/03/22 03:08 AM
1

It doesn’t hurt to have some relatable hobbies and interests.
/r/seduction20/03/22 02:12 AM
7

Wouldn’t hurt to pick a couple of those things and get into them. Bonus points if you get a woman to watch them with you.
/r/seduction19/03/22 10:16 PM
14

Yes. I’ve gotten laid before with a bmi of almost 40. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be putting a lot of work into losing weight and making that the primary focus of your life over women, but it can be done concurrently with losing weight. Cold approach on the streets is low key insanely good cardio
/r/seduction18/03/22 02:15 PM
2

It’s just a one week break right? If so, I’d message now and try to set something up for after it.
/r/seduction18/03/22 11:29 AM
7

Just go up to her, stop her, and compliment her on something she’s wearing. From there, ask her about her major, and get to know her some. Keep good eye contact. If she seems keen (asking you about yourself, keeping good eye contact), AND you’re genuinely interested in getting to know more about her, ask if she’d like to get coffee sometime (maybe even then and there if it’s going super well). If she seems disinterested, well then mention you have to run to get to your next class, but it was nic…
/r/seduction18/03/22 12:16 AM
43

Get off the internet and stop watching the news, and go talk to women instead… nuclear war is extremely unlikely.
/r/seduction18/03/22 12:10 AM
2

Most guys do, whether they are cognizant of it or not
/r/seduction17/03/22 07:54 PM
11

Solo is the only way I feel comfortable doing approaches.
/r/seduction17/03/22 03:06 AM
3

As a woman, you should make use of dating apps (tinder for fun, hinge if you’re looking for something serious). They work a lot better for women than men and should be a good way to get experience.
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:54 PM
1

Putting in sick volume in daygame is the best way to improve your dating life as an average male.
/r/seduction16/03/22 06:10 PM
6

"Offered me one knowing my situation I denied it and she kept insisting not knowing if this was a form of shit test to make rely her/figure out if I’m over reliant on other could be a turn off or an initiation to something more?" jfc man, this is why some guys need to get off pickup artist forums and just go with the flow. This was not a shit test, not even remotely. A shit test is a girl asking something like "do you do this to every girl?" when you approach them. This was a girl who was showin…
/r/seduction14/03/22 04:27 PM
1

She's a coworker who's twice his age. Unless he really doesn't give a shit about the job, he should just stay professional w/ her.
/r/seduction14/03/22 04:21 PM
1

I think it's just highly likely you're looking for different things. If you talked to her before hand and knew she's down for a fling, then it's ok, but you don't want to be getting into a serious relationship with someone twice your age. But also to the other guy's point, enjoy dating college-aged girls while you still can. They are a fun time, and even by the time you are 25 it gets harder to date them.
/r/seduction14/03/22 04:20 PM
3

You don't know that. The above poster doesn't know what they said is true either. None of us know, other than maybe OP. The bigger question is why would OP risk his job to get laid? That's not something someone with an abundance mentality would do, unless they just don't care about the job.
/r/seduction14/03/22 02:06 PM
1

These workplace situations are pretty simple. If you give a shit about the job, just leave it alone. How can you have an abundance mentality when you're willing to risk your job to get laid? Go talk to the thousands of women you can hit on all day with zero social/career repercussions. If you don't give a shit about the job, make a move, but be as subtle as possible.
/r/seduction14/03/22 02:05 PM
1

In my experience, it's easy to burn out when you develop goals that are too micro like some of these. For instance, the process of making yourself a morning person when you've just never been one is absolutely exhausting. Focusing instead on macro goals, like completing an exam series, losing x amount of weight, etc tends to be easier, as you don't get bogged down with reaching every single tiny goal you have, and instead just focus on making progress on the big picture things.
/r/seduction14/03/22 01:00 PM
0

As a girl, all you really need to do to have a better dating life is to make app profiles with quality photos taken.
/r/seduction13/03/22 10:06 PM
12

Do you have a car?
/r/seduction13/03/22 02:24 AM
6

I definitely wouldn't bring it up after 10 days, you'll seem really impatient. Just beat it off a couple times a day and give her some space, and also try to be supportive of her during her challenging time (listen to her, give massages, buy her favorite foods, give her a romantic gift, send memes, etc... don't overdo this stuff, but a couple of nice gestures go a long way). If it's still a probably two weeks from today, then it might be time to try to bring it up.
/r/seduction12/03/22 06:07 PM
1

Start with some travel/trips. Music festivals have been a huge world changer for me, not only are they great experiences that are liberating to go to solo, but they also provide and abundance of stories to tell after the fact.
/r/seduction12/03/22 06:05 PM
12

A week Is no time. I probably wouldn’t even notice it enough to care if we hadn’t fucked in a week. If it got closer to 3 weeks, I’d start to get worried, but I’d start with a simple conversation with her and try to figure out what’s causing this. I’ve gone through periods of intense stress and anxiety in my life where my sex drive was completely gone and I’d turn down my partners advances. In general, it’s a more a cause for concern about her than the relationship.
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:24 PM
8

Gym probably isn't the ideal place for it, but you can absolutely do an approach like that during the day in a wide variety of locations and get results.
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:06 PM
3

Social status & personality will always reign over looks. I have a friend who's overweight, & has a fairly average job, but is dating an attractive & cool doctor, after previously having had dated another very attractive woman. Why? Because he's social as can be. He has a massive network of people with diverse interests that he uses to live a super fun and inviting lifestyle, hone his social skills, find work, etc... Being a very social person (particularly one who leads and connects people w/ o…
/r/seduction12/03/22 05:04 PM
1

I'm in a sort of similar boat. I had some memorable experiences from 20-22, but before & after that there was nothing (currently 25). Only thing you can really do is push to have as many cool experiences as possible in your early 20s.
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:57 PM
2

Or you could just be an adult, smile, say “had to shoot my shot, I hope you have a nice day”, and move on to the next girl. No need to be petty.
/r/seduction11/03/22 07:42 PM
1

I’m not really afraid of much with talking to women, I guess the only thing would be messing up the convo badly and it somehow getting back to my social circle and damaging my rep. Part of the reason I like to keep some layer of removal between the pool from which I date and the people I regularly hang with.
/r/seduction11/03/22 07:41 PM
2

What I’d do in this spot is hookup with a few college aged girls to get that experience out the way, then move on.
/r/seduction11/03/22 07:38 PM
1

Grind on her for a few minutes then spin her around and go for the make out
/r/seduction11/03/22 07:37 PM
2

Keep at it, no replies happen all the time. Just tone done the sexual conversations some.
/r/seduction11/03/22 12:20 PM
1

For real. I’ll sarge cold approaches all day long, but the moment I see a girl when I’m out with my friends I freeze up.
/r/seduction11/03/22 01:58 AM
1

This is really uncalled for
/r/seduction11/03/22 01:57 AM
3

Don’t build a whole trip around talking to girls. Go have fun and relax, and if you see a girl you want to talk to, shoot your shot.
/r/seduction11/03/22 01:57 AM
1

I’d bet that she doesn’t text him back. It’s just so likely he came off creepy. OP, update us when you text her.
/r/seduction10/03/22 05:53 PM
5

Have you never had a get to know you conversation before? These are extremely standard questions and requests she’s making, i don’t understand what you are finding so weird about it.
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:25 AM
3

Sometimes people on here need to stop overthinking things and just take stuff at face value. This is a busy women who is somewhat interested in him asking to know more about him. Fuck being mysterious and all that other pua nonsense. Call her and talk, have a nice convo, and ask to continue the convo over dinner when she’s back in town. Isn’t rocket science.
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:10 AM
8

Sounds like a she’s genuinely interested in you buts wants to know more before meeting up. Schedule a phone call.
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:08 AM
1

You just have to make it a habit to always at least ask for the number, even if the interaction hadn’t gone as well as you hoped (unless the interaction left you genuinely uninterested in her by the end of it). Better to ask and get denied than to live in regret.
/r/seduction09/03/22 11:56 PM
4

I’m general, bringing up “rough sex” on an initial daygame interaction is a big mistake, and will make you come off creepy. Bringing it up multiple times only worsens that.
/r/seduction09/03/22 10:37 PM
4

The way I desensitized myself from the fear of approaching was by approaching indirectly at first. Ex: asking for directions, asking to borrow a pen, asking to watch my backpack while I run to the bathroom in the library, etc…. Then you can move to being more direct. In this case, a question like “how’d you feel about the exam” would’ve been a good way to start a convo.
/r/seduction09/03/22 10:33 PM
2

You don’t. You want them to think that.
/r/seduction09/03/22 10:27 PM
3

I’d say something like “why, trying to replace her?”
/r/seduction09/03/22 10:26 PM
0

I’ve been on many movie dates. If you are assertive physically and slowly escalate they go great. If you are passive and just hope for her to make a move, they go awful. Imo, they are great for beginners. If you just have courage to make a move you build lots of physical comfort without having to exert much energy in conversing.
/r/seduction09/03/22 07:12 PM
0

Physical comfort. Comfort isn’t just about conversation. In 3 hours in a dark room going from hand holding to hands around shoulders to maybe more, you build a lot of physical comfort and it shouldn’t be hard to go for the make out back in your car after the movie (intentionally park in the back far away from other cars).
/r/seduction09/03/22 07:06 PM
-2

Going to have to disagree here, movies are a great second date. You’re in a dark room with her for 3 hours, it’s the perfect time to slowly physically escalate and build comfort. It’s not a bad first date either if you go to dinner first.
/r/seduction09/03/22 07:01 PM
0

I personally don’t like playing games like this. Tell her you want to go out with her one on one, and if she’d rather go with her friend, she’s more than welcome to. Definitely don’t go to the movie with her and the friend.
/r/seduction09/03/22 05:29 PM
173

Honestly, one of my biggest regrets from my early days doing game was not trying to befriend more women who I had good convos with but weren't into me romantically. It would've been good social experience and hot girls have hot friends.
/r/seduction08/03/22 05:17 PM
1

I'm going to take the unpopular opinion that yes, you are missing out on a lot. If you take time to invest in creating a good profile that showcases your best moments and your passions, then there is nearly endless potential for connection, both platonic and romantic, through the app. Invest some time in putting up good photos, acquire more followers, and use your whole profile as a demonstration of your value. Follow girls you meet via cold approach and sometimes it can lead to opportunity down…
/r/seduction08/03/22 03:24 PM
106

I'd never take it personally if I was rejected by a stranger. We barely know each other, you owe me nothing. It can be disappointing, don't get me wrong, but it's not personal, just the nature of the game. And I appreciate people who are willing to outright reject rather than give their number then just ghost.
/r/seduction06/03/22 04:01 PM
3

This person is literally asking him to take her on a trip as the first meetup, how is that in any way going to end up in them sharing expenses?
/r/seduction06/03/22 03:22 PM
1

It could just be a straight-up scam, but in the world where it isn't, it sounds like she wants an all-expenses-paid vacation on your dime. What you two would get up two on that vacation is up in the air, but do you really want to spend all this money and subject yourself to a lot of risk just for the chance of maybe getting laid?
/r/seduction06/03/22 03:20 PM
1

I don't really see how so, especially if you're only using it to critique your own interactions. It'd be different if you were publishing it for the world to see.
/r/seduction04/03/22 06:57 PM
1

If you're in the western world, Covid is on the verge of becoming a non issue. And if anything, the isolation of the past two years has made girls want even more interaction now that it's safer.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:58 PM
0

I've done about a thousand approaches and never once encountered such an extreme reaction to my approach. If you are getting jailed, into fights, or filmed on social media for doing cold approaches, odds are you are doing something structurally wrong in your approach (ie: being too agressive/sexual or not taking no for answer).
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:54 PM
4

Aziz Ansari is a wealthy celebrity. Are you? It's an entirely different situation.
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:39 PM
0

Fair enough. But that does beg the question why you're on this sub to begin with if dating doesn't interest you anymore.
/r/seduction04/03/22 04:30 AM
14

I definitely think women on average now are more spoiled with choices than in the past, and hence get to be pickier (and tbh I don't necessarily hate that, fair play to them for finding such an easy way to get dates), but this is why we approach offline. In real life, girls who'd insta swipe left on you on Tinder will often give you the time of day. Additionally, apps like Hinge generally have far less hookup-oriented women. Not to mention there's a whole class of quality girls out there who are…
/r/seduction04/03/22 04:18 AM
16

Yeah, from your comment I didn't get the impression you were an incel or being rude at all. That particular line is just something I've heard hundreds of times on Reddit and really wanted to refute. It's utterly insane to me how many men literally don't even try to date out of fear of getting me too'd, it's so irrational.
/r/seduction04/03/22 04:13 AM
7

I think guys overcomplicate women. Women want male interaction too, they just have higher standards because they have more options. So that's why the idea of improving yourself (so you're more likely to meet their standards) and approaching a bunch (so you're more likely to run into someone who is attracted to you) is advised. I do wish it was easier for men, but I don't write the rules, just operate within the confines of the way things work.
/r/seduction04/03/22 04:06 AM
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Like I told the other guy further down, the best piece of advice I've heard on this stuff is to record (at least the audio) of your interactions and have someone you trust review it and try to figure out where you're going wrong.
/r/seduction04/03/22 04:03 AM
2

People are constantly trying to give you advice, but you refuse to provide the specifics of your situation, so it's almost impossible.
/r/seduction04/03/22 03:53 AM
2

Idk. And tbh, after reading some of your post history, I'm going to change my advice. Stop dating for 3-6 months and just find stuff you can enjoy doing,. Find a hobby to be passionate about and go to the gym. Obsessing over being a virgin like this will not get you results. You can't be desperate when you game, you need things in your life you care about besides women.
/r/seduction04/03/22 03:17 AM
2

Volume. Approaching as many people as you can and recording your infield and going over what you did and making tweaks to your approach as needed, whilst simotaenously working on improving yourself in every area of your life that you are insecure about.
/r/seduction04/03/22 03:14 AM
7

No, I told her to go approach men. Just as I'm telling men they should approach her. Approach the people you like.
/r/seduction04/03/22 03:07 AM
1

In what world is saying I got with two girls in 1000 approaches a brag? Or being borderline morbidly obese? It's a horrendous success rate that I bring up as proof that resiliency in approach is what gets results.
/r/seduction04/03/22 03:04 AM
9

You can't guarantee success, but you can stack the odds in you favor. Nothing can be guaranteed in life, but I think dating is something you have a relatively high degree of control over.
/r/seduction04/03/22 03:02 AM
4

Record your infield and ask a trusted person in your life to review it. Hit the gym, improve our career, and address other major issues that cause insecurity for you. Get therapy and talk through your issues with a trained person. Dress better and take good photos for online dating. All of these options are substantially better than giving up and just complaining about it.
/r/seduction04/03/22 03:00 AM
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I'm not white knighting this girl. I even told her to approach dudes on her post. I'm saying that the mindset men illustrated in the specific replies are incredibly toxic and highlighted the reasons I believe them to be incel. Incel to me means someone who complains about not having success in dating without being willing to ownership of that problem and work towards fixing it. I think this quotes fall pretty clearly in that box.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:58 AM
2

You said you've approached what 200 people? That's not that many. Variance over that sample size will be quite high, it's certainly not enough to just give up and assume you're undatable.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:56 AM
12

I didn't say I had answers. I said that taking ownership of the problem and putting in effort to solve it is a better strategy than just bitching about it and giving up. Up to you though.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:55 AM
4

If I was trying to claim to be a higher level, would Inadmit to being 260 lbs and having only been with two women? What I'm calling guys out on is their constant complaining coupled with an utter refusal to put themselves out there constantly and risk rejection to improve.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:53 AM
2

Imo, it's comforting. Knowing and believing that I can improve and my odds in dating will improve drives me and keeps me sane. It's a healthy mindset. Going down the path of blaming women for your lack of happiness is a dark road.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:52 AM
8

Hard to say if you don't mention how you ask them out, what you look like, how your eye contact is, what you dress like, etc.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:51 AM
10

Then go cry about it an incel sub rather than bringing down a sub that's all about taking ownership over the success or failure of your dating life.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:49 AM
6

Exactly. As someone who's a bit of a fat neckbeard myself after losing myself for a few years, I can attest men in just about any state can get a girl if they put enough volume in. I hooked up with a really my type girl when my bmi was approaching 40. That's not saying don't lose weight or improve whatever is troubling you, it's just saying that just about anyone can get success in dating if they try hard enough.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:25 AM
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It's not the lacking of skills that bothers me. It's the lack of willingness to build those skills and lack of resiliency when faced with rejection. One bad rejection and these kids give up forever. I've been rejected hundreds of times, but in the end I got a gf, a fwb, like 6 dates, and another ~10 instadates out of it. And while that's a somewhat poor ROI for hundreds of approaches, it's more than I would've got bitching on Reddit all day. Not to mention it taught me confidence, and honestly i…
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:22 AM
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The posts on here have been steadily trending from being about self improvement and putting in volume to being defeatist and blaming women for their dating woes, but I feel like it's getting particularly bad lately.
/r/seduction04/03/22 02:08 AM
2

No, but imo it's a lot easier to practice talking to girls during the day. College campuses, malls, book stores, etc... Bars can be overwhelming for people with low social skills.
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:52 AM
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Yeah. Sometimes I think it's just narcissism. Like bro come the fuck on, you are not important enough to get canceled.
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:47 AM
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You got to just learn to shrug rejection like that off. Think of it as dodging a bullet. If a girl is enough a jerk to belittle a stranger who's trying to start a conversation with her, you don't want her in your life. Laugh at her audacity and then go do the same approach a dozen other times.
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:16 AM
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Are you on the right sub bro? This isn't an incel sub, this is a sub about taking action to improve your dating life, including but not limiting to growing the courage to approach women in public and accepting that the success of our dating lives is in our hands, not the hands of women.
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:15 AM
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Bro if you can't take the sting of rejection, r/seduction is not for you. r/seduction is for those who've been embarrassed so freaking often through sheer volume of approaches that we're almost numb to rejection.
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:13 AM
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"Too much perceived risk of getting cancelled" Ftfy. I've never once actually met someone who's had major social ramifications from simply complimenting a girl and trying to start a conversation with her. I've personally done it hundreds of times and had maybe 4 major negative reactions, none of which escalated past a girl warning her friend not to date me (the friend ignored her advice lol).
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:09 AM
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Guys who know what daygame is and practice it are an incredibly small subset of the population. Most would just prefer to use Tinder and have obsessive crushes on girls they've known for years and have been rejected by multiple times, and complain how they rarely get dates. In fact, lots of men are actively afraid of approaching women because they view it as socially unacceptable and are scared of getting me too'd (this is absolute bullshit imo, but I'm deadass serious that this is what a lot of…
/r/seduction04/03/22 01:07 AM
5

Yep. I've cold approached something like 1000 times, and I can remember in my life getting choosing signals maybe 5-10 times. In fact, one of the only times I did a cold approach solely based on choosing signals, she rejected me faster than I've ever been rejected before. It's bs ego-inflation nonsense.
/r/seduction03/03/22 06:15 PM
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"- Most girls are generally happy to have a chat." I think this is something most guys considering doing cold approach need to hear. I've done hundreds of approaches, maybe thousands, and the majority of them were at least willing to talk. Even if they rejected me or gave me their number then ghosted me, they usually were down to have a short conversation. This is especially true rn, with the pandemic just starting to end... people in general are starved of social interactions and most would gla…
/r/seduction03/03/22 04:31 PM
7

Imo, the dumbest trending advice in the dating world is "pre-selection." It's preached by these self called "Alpha males" on Youtube, and it's dumb as shit. Just approach people you are interested in. If you're waiting for girls to drop magical signals to you before approaching, you're going to be leaving lots of great opportunities on the table. There's also nothing wrong with going out to cold approach, though I find it does feel a bit more natural when you're doing another activity along with…
/r/seduction03/03/22 04:28 PM
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It's also way too small a sample to define a success rate off of. I also find it's common when getting started to have beginner's luck and have one of your best ever approaches within your first 10 or so.
/r/seduction03/03/22 04:25 PM
1

Lmao just ignore her. You don’t want a childish cunt like that in your life anyways, have some standards.
/r/seduction02/03/22 02:30 PM
4

"how's retirement treating you?"
/r/seduction02/03/22 04:14 AM
2

I wasted many dates looking for signals to kiss. In truth, the best thing you can do is just kiss her at a lull in the conversation. For example, hold hands walking after venue 2 of the first date, stop walking kinda abruptly, look at her in the eyes and kiss her. If she rejects you, try again later.
/r/seduction01/03/22 01:27 PM
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You aren't going to get Me Too'd for ghosting/rejecting a girl on online dating lmao
/r/seduction01/03/22 04:29 AM
5

This. My whole college life I was looking for a girlfriend, and when I got one, I realized in like 2 months that it wasn't all it's cut out to be and I wasn't ready for it from a self development standpoint. Getting laid/dating is just a nice litte rush of dopamine that'll trick you into thinking you have life figured out, but when you come down from the high, you're still the same guy.
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:21 AM
0

This is anxiety talking. I'm the same way, I've literally avoided a doctor for a year at one point in my life because of anxiety about what they might say. Don't do this. Seek help. Trust the medications the doctors provide. They'll help you.
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:20 AM
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from your other posts, I see you are just 20. That's good news. You have your whole life in front of you to have great dating (and other) experiences. What you need now is a plan to make yourself into the man who gets those. Take all those preconceived notions of being a loser and throw them out. Don't believe for a second that being just average height will hold you back (the average person is average height, and the average person has a partner). Step 1 of the plan is getting yourself on a pat…
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:15 AM
1

Just more motivation for next time. Don’t get discouraged, keep pushing through that anxiety. Start with just asking a girl for directions then build your way up to going more direct.
/r/seduction28/02/22 07:52 PM
6

Appreciate you posting this. I'm 25 and have made lots of bad decisions, but feel I have the potential to get it turned around by 30. The one thing I've always found hard to deal with is the idea that my golden days of dating might be behind me. Happy to hear they don't have to be.
/r/seduction28/02/22 01:58 PM
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Jesus this sub can be so dramatic and defeatist. This guy is lean, but I know people built like him, and most are athletes. If I had to guess, he’s a runner. He’s more than fit enough to date. As for cold approach, yes he should. It shouldn’t be the only thing he does, in fact in the enclosed environment of a college campus he should be cautious to not overdo it, but it’s still a useful tool. Cold approach, get on apps, join clubs, participate in class and form study groups, etc.
/r/seduction27/02/22 03:54 PM
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No you shouldn’t. Being skinny is not nearly as much of a death sentence to your dating life as being fat is, people on here are being overdramatic. Dress fashionably and do some approaches and you’ll eventually get results. In college, you have to be careful to manage your reputation when approaching, so don’t just spam some routine from a video, try to just start natural convos with girls in places like the library (find a cute girl to sit next to and ask to borrow a pen).
/r/seduction27/02/22 03:51 PM
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College campuses are the best place for pickup, but even those aren’t “meant for hooking up.” Only clubs really are. You don’t go in with a super sexual approach doing daygame, you just be genuine and approach in a friendly manner, flirt some, then take them on a date later to somewhere you can escalate.
/r/seduction27/02/22 03:34 PM
1

When some rejects you and is in your social circle, remove any notion of dating them from your mind and go back to treating them exactly the same way you did before you were rejected.
/r/seduction27/02/22 02:02 AM
1

It’s not a waste of time, it’s time invested in finding companionship
/r/seduction26/02/22 11:06 PM
2

The endless streams of beautiful girls who are willing to have conversations.
/r/seduction26/02/22 06:33 PM
2

You can "sarge" in daygaming, which is going out solo specifically to a location to do daygame. College campuses are goated for this. Or you can just incorporate approaching into your daily routine, and just approach people as you go about your business anywhere from a coffee shop to a grocery store to a park you're at. Sarging is probably going to get results faster, but it also feels kinda creepy to be out specifically to meet women, so if that's something you'd have a mental issue with, just …
/r/seduction26/02/22 06:21 PM
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Maximize your looks, then put in volume. If you go do 1000 approaches in 2022, and get only 5 dates, that's really inefficient, but it's 5 dates more than you had when you started.
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:17 PM
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First time she turned me down because she had a boyfriend. Second time she let me talk for a minute before saying you approached me before, kinda laughing at the situation. The third time I realized like 5 seconds in it was her and just awkwardly left. Have you tried daygame? It has the benefit of having way less of a learning curve than night game, the competition is gone because no other guys are doing it, and it's a lot easier to not run into the same people if you're smart about it.
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:11 PM
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It can be effective without being efficent. If you approach 100 girls in March, and 1 goes on a date on you, that's extremely inefficient, but you still have one more date than you had if you didn't cold approach. So long as you are handling business in other areas of your life, if dating is a priority for you, why not set aside the time to do a bunch of approaches and find options through abundance?
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:07 PM
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Volume is everything for men in dating. Social circle, cold approach, & online dating are extremely inefficient for men (though you can make them better by maxing out your looks). So you can combat this by just putting in the volume that other guys won't. Cold approach a lot. Be on lots of datings apps. Shoot your shots with the people you meet organically. By taking more shots, you'll inevitable make one.
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:02 PM
1

This. I'm a guy who prefers to live a very low key and undemanding social life. I get as much joy on my own doing things as I do with people... honestly maybe more. I still want a partner to share life with, but I don't want to have to turn myself into this super social person that I'm not just to find a woman. And thankfully, with the existence of stuff like cold approach and online dating, I don't have to. I think it's such an insecure move to try to turn yourself into a more social person tha…
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:01 PM
1

"extremely ineffective unless person is question is very good at cold approaching, or very physically attractive" success in cold approach is volume x efficency. Volume is the number of people you talk to, efficency is how "physically attractive"/confident/"good at cold approach" you are. So if you're a newcomer who sucks at cold approaching and isn't very physically attractive, yeah cold approach is going to be extremely inefficient for you (even though through sheer volume you can probably fin…
/r/seduction26/02/22 04:58 PM
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You didn't get in trouble because you're "too nice." You got in trouble because you used a bad strategy to try to meet people that lead to you building a negative reputation in an enclosed area. It's a lesson that you, and all people who do game, need to have. Reputation management in small environments is important in all types of game. For example, if you daygame on a college campus, you need to vary up the spots you approach, don't use any same routine (in fact try to use situational openers …
/r/seduction26/02/22 04:52 PM
0

That just unfortunately doesn't happen much. Guys must take initiative.
/r/seduction25/02/22 08:44 PM
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Idk, my text game is shit. I just know following up has a chance of getting her out with you, whereas not following up doesn't.
/r/seduction25/02/22 08:07 PM
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Yes you should move on from focusing on her exclusively, you shouldn't have done that to begin with. No you should not move on from her entirely, send a follow-up message in a week or so. Will probably work only like 10% of the time though, so keep that in mind.
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:45 PM
1

I prefer to Mac
/r/seduction25/02/22 12:25 PM
5

At the very least, putting yourself out there and approaching will teach you useful people skills that will help in the long-run. Work on maximizing your attractiveness, but simultaneously get out there and approach. I'm currently 5'9" 260 lbs after having a really awful 3-year run where I neglected my physical and mental health (the isolation of the pandemic hit me really hard, right after I had a post-college identity crissis, and honestly I'm just happy to be alive). I'm working towards recti…
/r/seduction24/02/22 10:04 PM
6

I'm 25, most of the girls I talk to are 20-23. Texting is their preferred method of communication.
/r/seduction24/02/22 05:20 PM
5

I've recently realized that dating success can be defined simply as volume x efficency. You're high on efficiency because you look good and stay in shape. Your friend is high on volume because he approaches women all the time. If you took someone with your looks and took the actions your friends take, they'd absolutely slay.
/r/seduction22/02/22 12:35 AM
1

This is why I like this community. Go almost anywhere else on Reddit, even lots of the extremely popular subs, and you'll find so many defeatist & toxic attitudes about women and dating. r/askmen is in particularly horrible about this. I'll regularly see posts sitting in the >100 upvote range talking about how they never talk to women because they're scared of false rape allegations, how they'll never find somone because they're short or fat or whatever, etc. Literally one guy on there the other…
/r/seduction22/02/22 12:33 AM
1

The only way you can find out is to just ask her out.
/r/seduction21/02/22 07:00 PM
1

I think it's better off to leave it be for a few days or even a couple weeks and trying again. Be persistent but not so much so that it's desperate. What's the worst that can happen if you follow up with her again? Another rejection. You stand to gain a lot without much of a risk.
/r/seduction21/02/22 06:43 PM
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She's probably just more attracted to that guy than to you. You can't expect a girl to stop talking to other dudes after just one date. You also need to make a move, she probably wanted you to on the first date and got bored when you didn't.
/r/seduction20/02/22 05:20 PM
1

No. They just don't understand what women on average want. Each individual woman gets to be hyper picky with who their partner is, so when you ask any one girl for advice on women generally, they're only really saying what they specifically want in an ideal universe (but the guy has to be very attractive to them first as a prerequisite for the rest of the stuff to matter, so don't just try to become that guy and think she'll fall in love.
/r/seduction20/02/22 05:17 PM
1

That seems solid, though I personally prefer a specific compliment about their outfit to just a generic "you're attractive." Could just be variance... 80 approaches really isn't that much.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:23 AM
2

It can help for sure, but no amount of pumping iron is going to cause significant weight loss if you have a bad diet or don't get some cardio in.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:22 AM
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imo (I've lost 100 lbs tho I eventually gained it back and am now trying to lose again), the way more important thing for you than pumping iron is counting calories & doing cardio (lots of walks). Weight loss happens when you create a caloric deficit. It's 90% eating a better diet at a certain calorie target, 10% doing some cardio.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:12 AM
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I've gotten a (20 year old, fit, very my type) fwb at a BMI of 38.8. Can be done. Doesn't mean for a second that I shouldn't get fit, but I'm saying fat dudes can get laid too. 70% of Americans are overweight. What I'm trying to say here is he can continue to approach, but also lose weight at the same time. Cold approach is low-key wonderful cardio, as you're walking around for hours on end. I'd even argue an extremely confident fat guy who takes lot of initiative can get laid a lot more than a …
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:09 AM
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Strongly disagree. Telling yourself "I'm not going to approach women until I have x, y, & z" is just a surefire way to end up alone. Do both. There's nothing stopping a fat guy from approaching women, I've had successful approaches when I was a size significantly larger than him. It's more efficient when you're fit, but honestly, confidence is almost as important as looks. Learning to approach in such a bad shape will instill you with confidence in the long-run. He's literally in college, the go…
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:00 AM
1

What he needs is weight loss. Weight loss happens in the kitchen and in cardio.
/r/seduction20/02/22 12:49 AM
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Yeah, and approaching can even help improve looks. Which is better for your health: for hours of playing video games and snacking non-stop, or four hours of walking around campus looking for people to approach?
/r/seduction20/02/22 12:48 AM
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Yep. I've even got a fwb situation doing cold approach even fatter than this guy. Doesn't mean I'm not trying to fix my health, but why not practice approaching too. Women value confidence almost as much as they do looks. Approaching directly when you're out of shape shows hella confidence.
/r/seduction20/02/22 12:47 AM
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Why does he got to wait for weight loss to approach? He should obviously lose weight, I'm sure he knows that. Be he can also approach. They aren't mutually exclusive. One could argue cold approach even helps w/ weight loss, as cold approach typically involves walking around in a public place all day, aka cardio and not sitting home eating all day.
/r/seduction20/02/22 12:44 AM
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Also fat, (5'9", 262), but have done approach before when fit and when fat. It's obviously easier when fit, but cold approach can work when you are fat if you put in the volume, but you have to have resiliency and self-worth outside of women. You're going to get rejected or even laughed at a lot. In fact, I think cold approach can help with weight loss, as sarging involves lots of walking around all day looking for people to approach, which is good cardio. But again, if you're going to get sad a…
/r/seduction20/02/22 12:41 AM
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Just a heads up, The Game is largely considered to be extremely out of date and packed with bad advice on how to approach. Good for you for starting w/ cold approach, but it's better to just go up and be direct and authentic with your approach. Models by Mark Manson in the modern standard.
/r/seduction19/02/22 08:21 PM
5

A man in just about any state can get women with enough confidence and volume. Exercise just makes the average approach more efficent.
/r/seduction19/02/22 05:09 AM
1

I met this girl on Valetines's Day, fucked her in May, she found out about Abril, so she chose to March.
/r/seduction18/02/22 02:46 AM
1

I would say to me that getting laid isn't necessarily a key to my life, but chasing women is. I love the thrill of cold approaching, going on first dates, getting to know each other, etc. The sex part is nice too, but I don't think there's anything other than a rollercoaster that compare the level of exhilaration that the pursuit gives me.
/r/seduction18/02/22 01:02 AM
6

Get famous Be funny Have a big dick
/r/seduction17/02/22 11:31 PM
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In general, can this sub just ban posts where someone tries to turn one really good interaction they had into a general rule for others to follow?
/r/seduction16/02/22 02:09 PM
1

Tough to say since I wasn't there. I think in general it's based to not assume someone "lead you on." Even if they did, absolutely nothing good is going to come out of pointing that out. If you were interested in a relationship, then tell her that. Take her on a proper date and move at a normal pace for a relationship. Making out in your room at 2 am kinda implies you're going to just hookup.
/r/seduction16/02/22 12:27 AM
2

Then I don't really see what you're asking here? Your wants and her wants are clearly incompatible and it's best for you to both move on from any sort of romance. Tell her if she's ever open to something casual to let you know.
/r/seduction15/02/22 11:47 PM
1

Do you want to be in a serious relationship with her?
/r/seduction15/02/22 10:11 PM
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“no, you know I’m looking for a relationship. I don’t want to ruin our friendship”. I need you to clarify whether you meant to say she said she's NOT looking for a relationship or she IS. If she's not, then you should just emphasize how you're looking for something casual as well. If she is, then you should mention that kissing is that next step towards building a relationship. But honestly, if she's someone looking for something serious and you aren't, it doesn't hurt to just move on and tell h…
/r/seduction15/02/22 09:41 PM
3

This woman wasn't fickle. She just wasn't into you.
/r/seduction15/02/22 04:58 PM
2

I've been rejected once by a girl in my friend group, but it was a very soft rejection (more like "circumstances in my life mean I can't date you, but I'm somewhat interested"). I stayed non-reactive and even though it stung I kept treating her the same way I had before (helping her on college coursework, talking to her normally, etc). She eventually asked me out. So what I'm saying is really all you can do is be non-reactive to rejection, stop asking her out, and start treating her like a norma…
/r/seduction14/02/22 11:31 PM
1

If you think greater than 10% of people on this sub have all those things you're listing, you're delusional
/r/seduction14/02/22 10:38 PM
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They aren't the bare minimum things. You can survive without being ripped, successful in your career, having great hobbies, dressing well, having good furniture, etc. By very definition they are not the bare minimum things.
/r/seduction13/02/22 11:08 PM
1

Also, while I subscribed to this notion that you can't get girls until you've got your life together my whole college years, as an adult I realize it isn't true. I struggle to get girls because my life really isn't together, but most people to some large extent don't have their life together. People 30 and younger rn are just completely lost. Competiting in a society that just doesn't give them much guidance or opportunity. If you wait to have your shit together to date, you'll be waiting foreve…
/r/seduction13/02/22 09:56 PM
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These are not the baseline things. These are maximizing the baseline things. Baseline is having a job that pays the bills. Maximizing that is having a great career that fulfills you. Baseline is maintaining a healthy BMI (and 70% of people don't even do that), maximizing is lifting heavy weights and toning your body. Just look around you in society today. The average young man isn't fashionable, super social, pursuing a great career, ripped, etc.
/r/seduction13/02/22 09:54 PM
1

"TBH i don't think getting girls/pussy is actually that hard... like literally if you focus on yourself (school, job, or business), build your social circle (hang out with friends), focus on your body (going to the gym working out, eating the right food), focus on dressing your best (getting some nice outfits, nice drip, nice shoes, nice coats, nice chains), focus on improving your living situation (nicer bed, nicer coach), focus on doing something you love and want to compete in such as footbal…
/r/seduction13/02/22 09:50 PM
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I feel like almost all posts like this are just good-looking guys who attribute way too much credit for their online dating success to their strategy than to their looks. Winning at old is simple: look good and take pictures that show it.
/r/seduction13/02/22 05:28 PM
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You can get better at being social by joining lots of extracurriculars and trying to take on leadership positions, as well as volunteering in your community. Also participating in class and forming study groups will help. You can get yourself to a place where college women will be more receptive by doing the things I said in my op (fitness, find a career path) + getting more fashionable, finding interesting hobbies (pick a few: playing guitar, hiking, rock climbing, learning a new language of a …
/r/seduction13/02/22 05:16 PM
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I personally would not, or at the very least not do "cold approaches." Maybe once in a blue moon it wouldn't hurt (like if you see someone who's super your type who you'd otherwise have no way of meeting), but I just think one or two really awry approaches (which will inevitably happen no matter how good you are), can have repercussions even in a 1800 student school (whereas at 30,000 student college it probably wouldn't). If you decide to, I'd advise you to go very indirect (try to find a reaso…
/r/seduction13/02/22 04:26 AM
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The biggest thing you can do for your long-term dating life as a teenager is to develop yourself. Put very little focus into women, and instead set yourself up for a good college/adult experience. You probably will think you're already doing this, but I'm saying do it even harder. Get straight A's so you can go to a good college on scholarship, pick a good career path and start working towards it (tech, engineering, math, health, some business fields), hit the gym hard (seems like you are doing …
/r/seduction13/02/22 01:17 AM
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I think the better way to put it would be "progressively easier as you make progress." You can never get all your shit together. No one does.
/r/seduction13/02/22 01:09 AM
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There's no real need to snap out of that desire. It's normal. Just don't let it be the only thing driving you in life.
/r/seduction12/02/22 07:58 PM
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No it isn't, it's trash. He's basically saying "don't date unless you have your shit together." It's bad advice. You should be working every day to get your shit together, but you shouldn't be denying yourself human experience while you are working towards it. Almost everyone has emotional baggage and some (many) areas they don't have their life fully put together in. It's just unrealistic advice. If everyone listened to it, 90% of people wouldn't date.
/r/seduction12/02/22 07:43 PM
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If everyone followed your standards, the human population would be cut by like 90% because people just aren't dating. "Dating someone is a privilege that you earn by having your shit together." I used to think like this, but then I realized it's complete bs. Most guys don't have their shit together. Fuck, 75% of Americans don't even have a 6-month emergency fund tucked away and 70% of Americans are overweight. Yet the majority of adult men date. Telling yourself you "can't date until you accompl…
/r/seduction12/02/22 07:41 PM
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Yes
/r/seduction12/02/22 07:18 PM
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I agree. Daygame generally leads to better long-term connections and it can be done in conjunction with other activities that enrich your life.
/r/seduction12/02/22 06:00 PM
4

Stop telling yourself stuff like. Some of the biggest online PUAs operate out of the UK.
/r/seduction12/02/22 04:38 PM
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"I'm happy to report that I've built a career I'm happy and prideful to be in, I have a great social circle, building my portfolios and interests, and am at my best mental and physical health in my life. I'm a confident person and don't suffer any anxiety, but after being away from the game for three years, I'm not sure where to start now." You've done literally 90% of the work. All that's left is to approach. Best place to start approach (imo) is a college campus. There's just a sheer abundance…
/r/seduction12/02/22 01:32 AM
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Depends on the context, but yeah probably cringe. Only time I could see it being good is if you're in a ltr and she is having a completely shitty day and needs comforting.
/r/seduction12/02/22 01:29 AM
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Yeah the advice on here is awful. high school is unequivocally not the place to do cold approach. Protection your reputation, get good grades, do extracurriculars, and get fit and everything else should work out come college time.
/r/seduction12/02/22 01:27 AM
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It'll definitely be different for people who graduate this year and on. To lose (most of the experience of) two of the best years of your life to Covid is really harsh. A shitload of the value of college is in networking too, which you guys have been heavily deprived of. I'd literally have just dropped out if I hadn't graduated right before Covid. At least you're graduating into a great job market, silver linings. But even not in college, the last two years have been harsh on people. For me, it …
/r/seduction12/02/22 01:23 AM
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Personally, I don't get that way. I loved college and going back there just reminds me of the good old days. The seeing lots of people around having great lives part is part of what makes me feel good about it. It's just inspiring being around so many people who are so happy, working towards their goals, and not heavily burdened by the harsh truths of reality. You're either going to need to reframe the way you look at it, or just stop going. Cold approach is fun and helps your dating life, but i…
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:21 PM
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Personally, I wouldn't do much approaching like this in high school until senior year. Yes grades are ultimately all that matters, but getting a negative reputation can make it hard to keep your grades up. It becomes easier to approach without building a rep in college, especially if you go to a medium to large school.
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:17 PM
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Imo indirect openers like the directions ones are good for breaking through your approach anxiety you get as a beginner, but once you get some approaches done it's best to be more direct. Just give them a direct compliment. "I was heading to do (xyz) in 5 minutes, but I saw you and I really like your (insert article of clothing or something else about them not related to physical appearance), and wanted to meet you. I'm (your name)" is a good starting spot. You express that you're interested in …
/r/seduction11/02/22 05:03 PM
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You will look like a creep sometimes. Sometimes you'll get brutally rejected and literally want to hide away and cry. But other times you'll meet great women who enrich your life. That's just the nature of cold approach, got to accept it. But that's also why it's important to not do cold approach too much in college. Pick and choose your times, vary your approach locations, don't approach within your classes that often, etc... Take risks to meet people you're really interested in, but don't just…
/r/seduction11/02/22 12:31 AM
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So, I think this method of approach might be your biggest issue. When you ask to sit down, you kind of trap the girl in a conversation with you. She has no idea how long you'll stay. It's better to just approach her standing up, and mention early in the convo that "I have to go study in a few minutes, but I thought you were cute so I had to meet you." That way she knows both why & how long you'll be talking to her. The dining area probably isn't the best spot for this either, some people like to…
/r/seduction11/02/22 12:27 AM
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I was a lot like you in college. I just mindlessly spammed cold approach that kept not working, or getting girls out on dates that went nowhere. I did eventually get a relationship from it, but I also wasted like a dozen stellar opportunities along the way. My advice: (1) be on your mission first and foremost. Study something useful (Tech/Engineering/Math/Health are the best, business fields are solid too), hit the gym, network/join student orgs, get an internship, get good grades. Having a plan…
/r/seduction11/02/22 12:21 AM
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This is an example of what not to do on online dating. You took a playful/flirty conversation way too seriously and lost a match.
/r/seduction10/02/22 11:11 PM
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I have definitely realized lately that not optimizing your online profiles is wasting massive opportunity, but geez I just wish it didn't have to be some damn complex and competitive. This is why I prefer cold approach. You skip the whole entire line and for a few minutes you are number 1 in the queue. No tens of hours worth of optimization required.
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:31 AM
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I have definitely realized lately that not optimizing your online profiles is wasting massive opportunity, but geez I just wish it didn't have to be some damn complex and competitive. This is why I prefer cold approach. You skip the whole entire line and for a few minutes you are number 1 in the queue. No tens of hours worth of optimization required.
/r/seduction10/02/22 01:30 AM
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Obviously, but they aren't mutually exclusive activities. You can lose weight and meet women at the same times. I'd argue daygame is actually good for fitness, walking around for hours is certainly healthy.
/r/seduction09/02/22 08:26 PM
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Frankly, I don't look very good (out of shape). I'm working to fix it, but I've got a good 6+ months work to do. In person, I can overcome that with my personality, but looks are the end all be all online.
/r/seduction09/02/22 08:06 PM
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I definitely think it's harder for men to find dating options than women, that's just an easily measurable objective fact. But I think you're exaggerating it here. You don't have to be all those things. I used to think you did, but as I've matured I've learned you don't. Look at how many douchey, out of shape, broke, &/or stupid guys in the world there are who ended up in relationships w/ quality girls. You don't have to have an amazing career, interesting hobbies, a buff body, or suave charisma…
/r/seduction09/02/22 05:59 PM
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Well if you're in NYC, you have the advantage of having massive abundance. If one person isn't receptive to your approach... well there are millions more to approach...
/r/seduction09/02/22 02:26 AM
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Just remember they are probably financially unstable too, especially the ones in college. Just find someway to frame your job as better than it is, and have something you can point to studying towards that'll improve your long-term future and it'll be fine. College girls do have somewhat distorted views of the type of success to expect from someone a year removed from college (we all do), but so long as you present yourself in a confident way and don't appear insecure about it, it should be fine…
/r/seduction09/02/22 01:13 AM
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This is the realest comment I've read all week. It's definitely something you need to learn to work around as an adult. I remember one of the first few cold approaches I did after graduating: I was talking to a cute college freshman on my old campus. It was going pretty well, but then we started talking about career stuff and I kinda ended up being way too honest and admitting how much it sucked, and she told told it was scaring her for her life post-college. Don't do that. You got to find a way…
/r/seduction09/02/22 01:11 AM
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I mean, I feel like it's fairly obvious why, no? You're comparatively more mature and have your life together better than the average college-aged male, and are hence more attractive to women who generally prefer more mature partners. Think about the average dude you knew in college in terms of looks, money, confidence, etc, then think about yourself now at 22... that should make it clear why this is happening.
/r/seduction09/02/22 01:04 AM
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I'm in the exact opposite spot. 25 and still living in the city of my college, but I've been on the lamb due to the pandemic for 2 years now, and only really now starting to try to live my old life again. Feel that I was deprived of that golden opportunity age (22-25) where I'm young enough to date girls in college, confident enough to succeed at cold approaches, and finally have the financial resources to take girls on nice dates. I wasn't a very confident person in college, so I didn't have mu…
/r/seduction09/02/22 01:01 AM
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I have a solo trip planned for June. International too. Not too the wilderness or anything, to a city for a festival. Hearing your experience definitely is calming to my anxieties. Traveling along is scary, but seems like it also has huge benefits.
/r/seduction09/02/22 12:51 AM
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Fumbling great opportunities was like the theme of my college days (not just romantically either). Sometimes when you lack experience, you also lack that killer instinct. This one time, I had this great convo with a girl in a line at Chipotle. She asked me to hold her spot in line while she grabbed her wallet from her friends. When she got back I accused her of making that up as an excuse to talk to me (as I'd done shit like that as "indirect approaches" before). We had a great convo, maybe the …
/r/seduction08/02/22 02:32 AM
1

I too find finance girls in general to be annoying. If you don't enjoy talking to her, find someone else, there's nothing forcing you to see this girl.
/r/seduction08/02/22 02:17 AM
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I personally don't think so, and that's a good thing, because dating colleagues, even units removed from you, can be troublesome.
/r/seduction08/02/22 01:56 AM
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In my life, I've been fat (260), then skinny (160), then unfortunately fat again (260). The process of weight loss itself is simple. Creating a caloric deficit is all it takes. Find a calorie amount that works for you (for me it was 1500), and stick to it. Walks are also great, but imo doing too much exercise on an overweight body is going to lead to burning out, high risk of injury, and will usually lead to going back to old habits when you get tired of it. I call the process "the lazy loser di…
/r/seduction08/02/22 01:14 AM
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Really just depends on what the thing issue is. Something of low to medium importance: I'd argue it's actually better to disagree about this type of thing a lot, it keeps things interesting. Something of very high importance: well there are just some beliefs people of both genders hold important enough where disagreeing with them can be a relationship killer... I think Covid-related issues would be a big one, as are some political issues that veer more into the territory of human rights than pol…
/r/seduction08/02/22 12:49 AM
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I've known this since day 1 of getting into game. I want human connection. Sex is great, but it's only just one part of the good that can come out of dating. My favorite part of dating is the getting to know the other person and sharing hobbies w/ them (some of my first gf's main hobbies are still my hobbies to this day... each person you date introduces you to new things you otherwise might not have discovered). It's also nice to have someone you can speak to about deep things and keep it real …
/r/seduction08/02/22 12:46 AM
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I don't know you, but it could go either way here. It's either (1) they're bad friends who don't value you as much as you value them and you should find new ones, or (2) they have legitimates concerns they're bringing up about your dating patterns and how you've treated women in the past that you need to address. Could be a combination of both actually.
/r/seduction07/02/22 12:39 AM
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Imo your issue was doing a second video date. When she rescheduled, you should've pulled back and just asked to make irl plans some other time. In general, once you go over a certain threshold of time spent chatting online, they'll lose interest.
/r/seduction05/02/22 11:58 PM
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If she's attracted enough to you, one or two moments off you game won't destroy it for you. It seems you to me you are scapegoating issues of attraction on being off your game.
/r/seduction05/02/22 11:56 PM
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I think it's not right to feel this way, but I wouldn't call it abnormal. Lots of guys do. Modern society encourages us to date in a way that gives all the power to the women (online dating) and forces men to be hypercompetitive and lower their standards for dating opportunites. There's absolutely nothing wrong with going up to a woman in person and manufacturing your luck so to say. Don't feel guilty for it. It's really the only way men can have an abundance of dating options.
/r/seduction03/02/22 08:11 PM
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I know. I feel like I got a year or two of work to do on myself before I'll be the person I want, but even 27 isn't too late. I'm just saying the earlier you get ahead of things, the better.
/r/seduction03/02/22 01:55 PM
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Hey bro, better than just starting now at 25 like I am
/r/seduction03/02/22 12:18 AM
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I really think telling a teenager to get into cold approach is bad advice. High schools operate in small social circles. One or two missteps and he gets a massive negative reputation he has to live with for 2.5 years.
/r/seduction03/02/22 12:18 AM
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Forget getting girls for now, get on your purpose. You have a great chance to build yourself a great life that'll lead to lots of dating opportunities in college and adulthood. Study hard and get straight A's Join lots of clubs in school and meet a bunch of people Get very fit (lift weights/play a sport for Cardio) Pick a career path you're interested in to study in college (preferably in a technology, engineering, math, or health field). Hopefully, your grades will get you scholarships and oppo…
/r/seduction03/02/22 12:14 AM
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Personally, I just like the post, and (if we are official) drop a cute comment or emoji. There's no point in trying to stop your girl from posting hot photos on insta. It won't work and you'll end up looking insecure and controlling. If she's chasing you and checks your boxes, just let it go and accept this is a thing people active on social media do.
/r/seduction02/02/22 10:25 PM
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And a once a month or so cute supportive comment doesn't hurt.
/r/seduction02/02/22 10:23 PM
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Honestly, this is just a thing women do nowadays. There doing it more in competition against other women than they are for validation from other men. If the girl is checking all your other boxes, I wouldn't risk looking insecure or controlling by bringing it up. Like you said, you're the only one who's seeing everything.
/r/seduction02/02/22 10:23 PM
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To be secure enough in my relationship to know that posting good-looking photos on Insta is just a normal thing modern women do, and that me making a big fuss over it would make me look insecure and push her away. Hell, I'd even take the photos for her. So long as I'm the only one she's letting see everything, it doesn't matter to me. I'm not going to be controlling or insecure towards her.
/r/seduction02/02/22 10:21 PM
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It's ok to be nice and kind to everyone, in fact it's a huge way to create a large social network that will help get you through life with the sort of experiences, job opportunities, and friendships you want. But when it comes to dating, you can't approach it that way. Treating her like a princess and being as kind as you can isn't going to maintain the attraction for long. I'm not saying don't be emotional/vulnerable, that's important, but you also can't give her every little thing she wants an…
/r/seduction01/01/22 04:02 AM
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It's called presenting yourself well. You should employ the same sorts of tactics.
/r/seduction29/12/21 06:58 AM
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/r/seduction27/12/21 03:19 AM
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People on this sub always say this, but I couldn't disagree more. It's going to widely vary based on personality type, but if you are an introvert or just generally poor at socializing, I can't think of any better first date than dinner and a movie. Sure a movie isn't going to maximize your charm if you're a social butterfly, but let's be real most of the people on this sub probably aren't as they are here because they suck at dating. The dinner is a very short time period, which most people can…
/r/seduction24/12/21 07:40 PM
2

Men peak physically at age 31. You are 21. You've got 10 more years worth of experience to acquire before you're even at the top of your game. Keep approaching and success will come eventually.
/r/seduction23/12/21 04:33 AM
2

Who is telling you to pretend to be someone your not? That's against most of modern dating advice. Models by Mark Manson is the gold standard for modern dating books, and it argues most of all for honesty and authenticity.
/r/seduction22/12/21 06:59 PM
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Unfortunately not, my read that I had lingered a bit too long in the interaction was probably right, she never responded to me. If I had kept it short and sweet and left at a high point, maybe things would've been different.
/r/seduction20/12/21 02:19 PM
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Unfortunately, yes. I wish I could find a sustainable source of motivation outside of women. I look for it a lot. But at the end of the day all my body/heart keeps telling me I want is a partner to live life with.
/r/seduction20/12/21 05:34 AM
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Yeah, to me, asking if she has a boyfriend is just inviting her a to reject you. If she has a partner, it'll eventually come up organically.
/r/seduction18/12/21 03:47 PM
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I've worn headphones at the library/coffee shop for years, I can't recall it ever leading to a girl approaching me. I think you're just a good looking dude who is displaying value by doing work that everyone knows pays well.
/r/seduction17/12/21 11:10 PM
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Yeah that seems like a good rule. Past that your behavior starts to look like that of a stalker.
/r/seduction12/12/21 06:17 PM
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Perhaps some would argue it's "self respect," but personally I've become so disillusioned with the dating game, that I've come to think of things very logically. It's a numbers game, and I'm not going to waste a chance to meet someone. The relationship doesn't really start until we get on a date, so just because she's flaky pre date doesn't mean she's not going to be your ideal type once you get her out on the date. Meeting someone new comes with anxiety for women too, she could flaking out of n…
/r/seduction12/12/21 05:28 PM
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Look I just try to think about things in dating logically, and to me sending a confirmation text provides no benefit at all. Best case scenario, the plans stay exactly the same. While there is risk to it, she could see the text as an easy chance to flake. Like you said, people feel anxiety about meeting someone new for the first time, so in a moment of anxiety might take an easy way out of meeting up. I like to avoid activities in my life that have no reward and some risk.
/r/seduction12/12/21 05:21 PM
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I just don't see it that way, but that's maybe just because I don't send confirmation texts with my friends in the first place. It just seems like sending her an invitation to flake.
/r/seduction12/12/21 05:18 PM
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If she's a mature potential partner, she'd trust me to let her know if something comes up, as I trust her to let me know. All I see confirmation texts as is insecurity. "I'm scared you won't show up so I'm going to needlessly ask you to confirm something you've already confirmed."
/r/seduction12/12/21 04:59 PM
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I never send texts like that to my male friends. I know that we made plans and are both mature enough to remember the plans and to let the other know if something came up. Why should I treat a girl any different, I respect her enough to lmk if her plans have changed.
/r/seduction12/12/21 04:48 PM
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Pretty much this. Everyone's ego is on full display whenever this question is asked. They offer sub-optimal advice that'll get less results because it makes them feel more macho. As for the confirmation texts, I personally don't even send one the day of. We have plans, she knows when we're meeting. If she needs to change that, ball is in her court to tell me. If she flakes, then I'll just go approach other girls instead.
/r/seduction12/12/21 04:39 PM
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The responses on here are very ego-driven. A bunch of guys who can't handle a girl not responding to them, so it's easier to just say "fuck her, on to the next." In reality, a simple follow up is going to at least some % of the time (probably somewhere between 10-20% depending on the girl) reignite the conversation. Ego is a major results killer. It's just like with rejection. If you're too afraid to get rejected, you're not putting yourself out there enough and lowering the volume of girls you …
/r/seduction12/12/21 04:37 PM
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I think this a very ego driven response that's quite wasteful with opportunities. Girls will flake for a myriad of reasons, and even if a simple follow up only works 15% of the time, that's still better than 0%. There's no harm in just sending a follow up text, drop your ego and do what gets the best results.
/r/seduction12/12/21 04:34 PM
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I hear advice like this all the time, but how does one put it into actions. It's easy to aay buzz words like interesting & ballsy but what tangible steps can one take to develop these traits?
/r/seduction10/12/21 08:39 PM
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The key is multiple venues. Keep the date moving. Start with dinner at an affordable but good place. Move it to a fun spot (arcades are great, bowling alleys, mini golf, walk through a park/museum/city landmark/etc... something active). From there you can try to take it place to your place to watch a movie (or alternatively a theater if she's not ready to go home with you). Between venues is when you can escalate physiciality. Between food and arcade, hold her hand. Between arcade and movie, kis…
/r/seduction09/12/21 05:01 PM
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That advice thing could either be a huge hint she likes you or a a clear sign she doesn't, tough to say. Only one way to find out, ask her out.
/r/seduction07/12/21 07:39 PM
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If I could back to when I was first learning and teach myself anything, it'd be use time constraints. I got so caught up in the frenzy over "instant dates" and having long interactions to build rapport that I constantly screwed up by forcing initial interactions to go longer than they needed. All you have to do is have a 3-10 minute conversation, get a point where she seems interested/invested (a high point), then grab her number. Also, it doesn't even have to be a lie persay. You can just vague…
/r/seduction07/12/21 01:42 AM
1

Yeah, not gonna dye my hair or get tattoos I don't want just to get laid.
/r/seduction05/12/21 08:15 PM
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To me, this just feels like way too drastic a self transformation to undergo just for the sake of getting women and being "cool." It would be massively exhausting to change all this shit about myself. I'd rather be with a woman who appreciates me for who I am. I feel like it's more authentic and masculine to just be confident in who I am rather than put up some facade to make women attracted to a fake version of me. Authenticity, that's the key word for me. Yes I can better myself through things…
/r/seduction04/12/21 10:20 PM
2

I do daygame rather than night game, and I try not to go out specifically to game, but rather just approach people as I go about my day.
/r/seduction04/12/21 05:44 AM
1

I think it can make it hard to read body language queues without seeing their face. I had a solid interaction with a girl who was wearing a mask, but at the end I pushed a little too hard for the instant date and it led to her not texting me back, so I kina wonder if I had been able to see her face if I would've been able to calibrate better.
/r/seduction02/12/21 07:32 PM
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I'm not a big fan of approaching coworkers with the intent to date them. Save that for after-hours and people you don't work with. Makes things less awkward.
/r/seduction02/12/21 04:47 AM
1

I've never been one for night game (I'm too introverted and also into more introverted girls), but I imagine it's a lot easier than daygame rn.
/r/seduction02/12/21 04:45 AM
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Yeah, as someone who leaned almost exclusively on cold approach to get dates, the past 20 months have been rough for me.
/r/seduction01/12/21 03:43 PM
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Ngl, the maks do make it really tough. Especially indoors. Only way so far I've found around it is approaching outdoors. People don't wear masks outdoors that often, as transmission outdoors is incredibly rare.
/r/seduction01/12/21 03:42 PM
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Agree on both points. Even highly interested girls won't take the initiative to send the first text, and women who are working are literally paid to be nice to you.
/r/seduction30/11/21 05:02 PM
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Idk, the vibe I got from the part where she ran off to talk to a coworker when she saw him again was that she was a little weirded out by it. Approaching women who are working generally isn't a good idea, they're trapped in the interaction and paid to be nice to you.
/r/seduction30/11/21 05:01 PM
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Aren't going to find many better places to live as a young adult than New York City, and not just because of women (employment opportunities, abundance of young professionals, sports teams, concerts, cultural events, etc...). LA & San Fran might be the only places in the US even comparable.
/r/seduction30/11/21 04:55 AM
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The thing is that a lot of introverted guys with male-driven hobbies would prefer to not have to jump through all these hoops just to meet a mate. We feel we shouldn't have to entirely change our personality and interests to find women, it doesn't feel very true to our own identity. That's why cold approach is such a powerful tool in dating. It gives a way for men who don't want to have extremely socially active lifestyles to be able to meet new women on their schedule.
/r/seduction26/11/21 09:27 PM
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I'm 25. It's worked a decent amount for me, at least in helping me transform from a virgin who was too afraid to even talk to girls to someone who's gotten a good amount of dates and even a girlfriend for a while. It absolutely can work.
/r/seduction26/11/21 07:25 PM
2

I've cold approached hundreds of times. I would not say that 99/100 girls had a negative perception of it. Some definitely did, but even with ones who flaked or didn't give me their number, the majority seemed to at least appreciate someone making a positive conversation with them. It is not dead in the water in 2021, not even remotely. Tens of thousands of guys still meet girls this way.
/r/seduction26/11/21 07:20 PM
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I've realized lately this is a huge part of my problem. I just live in a city where there's a complete absence of single girls my age. It's a medium-sized city where it's either college-aged girls or wives with very little middle ground. Need to move to a bigger city.
/r/seduction26/11/21 06:59 PM
3

How is marrying a girl you met on an app any different than one you met randomly at a coffee shop or mall?
/r/seduction26/11/21 04:50 PM
2

If by "boomer shit" you mean a mature way to approach dating, then yeah it is.
/r/seduction26/11/21 04:49 PM
5

What are the replies on here, what's happened to this sub? Malls are a great place to do daygame, probably the number 1 place that isn't a college campus. Plus revealing your cards right away is generally accepted as the best way to do things. Being direct & bold with your intentions will make you stand out from the hundreds of other guys who will just try to backdoor their way into dating through friendship.
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:36 AM
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You should build a good social circle, it will help with dating. But cold approach is another great method. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Attack dating from every angle: cold approach, social circle, online dating, etc...
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:34 AM
11

This. By all means approach girls who give you signals/IOIs like eye contact & smiling, but don't deprive yourself of opportunities to talk to girls you're interested in because they didn't give you some mystical signal. That's nonsensical. It's more your perception than reality. Lots of girls aren't going out in the daytime giving signals to guys they want to approach them... in fact they aren't even expecting to be approached at all. That's why cold approach is such a great thing, you're meeti…
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:33 AM
10

Going to have to disagree with this firmly. Unless you're very good-looking, if you go around waiting for clear "IOIs" or signals that a girl wants you to approach her, you're going to be waiting a long time. It's better to just approach anyone you find interesting. Obviously there are better approaches than calling a girl pretty and immediately asking to get coffee tho. I remember trying this method one day, where I'd go around fishing for IOIs or eye contact, and in hours of walking around sto…
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:30 AM
1

That's a bad way to approach. Try to build some rapport before asking her out, and try to compliment her on something specific about her style rather than saying "pretty". But good for you putting yourself out there.
/r/seduction26/11/21 12:29 AM
2

I have gotten the itch in a relationship to meet new people. At the time I thought it was something I should just bury beneath the surface and forget, but in hindsight, it was just a symptom of a really bad relationship that I subconsciously desperately wanted out of. You need to ask yourself if this desire to be with others is internal or external. Is it because you're young and not ready to be committed and value the thrill of the chase, or it because you're insecure about your body count. If …
/r/seduction24/11/21 06:31 PM
8

Another point to piggyback off this: college is in theory the best time in your life for dating, but most dudes aren't developed enough to take advantage of it. Most guys I've met in college aren't super fit, don't have tunnel vision on their purpose/career, don't have the money for super interesting lifestyles (or even dating to be frank), etc... They're in a self-development limbo they won't get out of until they graduate and start working towards a career. Basically what I'm trying to say to …
/r/seduction24/11/21 02:40 PM
1

You can meet girls outside of parties. Like literally just walk up to cute girls anywhere you see them on campus (library, food hall, the streets, etc). Don't do this too often as to avoid building a reputation, but 10 or so respectful approaches a week is fine.
/r/seduction24/11/21 02:30 PM
1

If you have that good a bod, why did you think you wouldn't get matches?
/r/seduction21/11/21 04:47 AM
3

You should not be going for a kiss on an instant date unless you're really calibrated socially or the girl is really clearly feeling the vibe. Otherwise, it's a surefire way to creep a girl out and build a nasty reputation on campus.
/r/seduction18/11/21 03:37 PM
8

Polarizing doesn't have to be saying "nice ass." by polarizing he just means show intent in a very bold and direct way. It could literally just be saying "we should go on a date" rather than just asking for her phone number to "maybe hang out sometime."
/r/seduction18/11/21 03:36 PM
11

This. I basically wasted 2 years of daygame in college by being far too risk-averse in my approaches. I'd often go indirect in my approaches (doing things like asking girls to watch my laptop while I go to the bathroom or let me borrow a pen). Then I'd have a boring and inoffensive conversation with them about general topics. I got A LOT of number doing this. But in hindsight, that was my mistake. These girls often didn't even realize I was interested in dating them. If they were, probably 60% w…
/r/seduction18/11/21 03:34 PM
-1

For real. For game to work you have to get massive volume. If being rejected twice is going to psyche you out, you aren't built for this.
/r/seduction18/11/21 03:31 PM
1

So this used to happen to me all the time in college. I'd instadate a girl, get her number, and then she just never responded. I think the issue for me boiled down to two fundamental issues: (1) I was spending too much time in each individual interactions, (2) I was stating my intent clearly enough. 1 means that you are lingering and not leaving any mystery about yourself, 2 means you aren't being direct enough and they aren't sure what you want. If you go up to them, talk to them for 5 minutes …
/r/seduction18/11/21 03:31 PM
5

I do think some exaggerate how expensive it's gotten and could make it by getting roomates and such, but for people who have parents in better financial situation than me, it just makes sense to save up money and pay down your student loans before moving out on your own. More people need to think long-term with this type of stuff. While not being independent in your mid 20s is a real drain on your social life and happiness at that age, it's a really bad financial situation to jump into independe…
/r/seduction14/11/21 11:39 PM
2

Yeah maybe try that out. Get a nice sofa & tv for it. Would be fairly private and even just a nice place to chill in general, even without girls.
/r/seduction14/11/21 11:33 PM
5

Dorms count imo. It’s still a room you have to yourself you can have sex in.
/r/seduction14/11/21 10:12 PM
2

Why not? A lot of parents understand that their kids want to have healthy & active dating lives. Mine were cool with me bringing my college girlfriend over all the time and banging her in my room, I just turned music up loud so they couldn't hear.
/r/seduction14/11/21 09:31 PM
0

He should get a car, but living with your parents when it's a mile away from campus in college just makes logical sense. Save the money so he isn't burdened with debt as an adult like most people in this generation are.
/r/seduction14/11/21 09:29 PM
1

Does your family have a garage, basement, or some other place isolated from the rest of the house? Could be the move to turn that into your bachelor pad.
/r/seduction14/11/21 09:28 PM
1

I don't think that's a good idea in college tbh. Save that money so you can lead a better adult life. Being low in debt is a life hack.
/r/seduction14/11/21 09:27 PM
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I'd say any age under 30 living at home isn't a terrible thing, as long you are concurrently working towards setting yourself up to be financially independent the rest of your life. It's way more expensive for our generation to be independent than the prior ones. Personally, I'm 25 and at home because my dad is broke and my mom is sick and I'd rather give them my rent money than a landlord. Is it a hindrance on my lifestyle? Absolutely. But it isn't hard to just use the added time I get by havin…
/r/seduction14/11/21 09:25 PM
17

For real, I'm not consistently dropping $50 to have sex. I'd rather just put my dating life on hold (save up and get a car, or your own place) or just wait for opportunities to get with girls who have their own place (which in this guy's case, he seems like a college student. Such a huge percentage of college students have their own place, probably more 22-26 adults live at home than college students.)
/r/seduction14/11/21 09:21 PM
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Options: (a) Get a job and save up for a car. (b) Date mostly girls who are college students living in dorms/apartments on/near campus (c) save up for a hotel/motel room for every time you want to get laid (d) if your parent's place has a garage or something, turn it into a bachelor pad
/r/seduction14/11/21 09:18 PM
4

Yeah, hard drinking also creates consent grey areas you'd do best to avoid.
/r/seduction11/11/21 03:49 PM
1

yes
/r/seduction01/11/21 10:30 PM
1

Challenge her with: "what are you going to do about it?"
/r/seduction31/10/21 06:39 PM
4

the only way is to approach them and see how it goes
/r/seduction30/10/21 02:11 PM
1

The random shit that attractive and tall men will credit for their success with women rather than their height/looks never fails to astonish me.
/r/seduction27/10/21 10:37 PM
14

As someone who's been trying this strategy for a long time, I'm going to have to say you missed a step here. Step 0 is fix yourself. Yes anyone can get laid a couple times through cold approach if they put in enough volume and aren't a complete lunatic... But it's just so inefficient when the product you're selling (you) isn't good. Even if you do get laid it'll be unfulfilling and even if you do find a gf odds are you won't have enough self confidence to bolt if it gets toxic or walk away when …
/r/seduction25/10/21 11:16 PM
1

Yeah, even way below average guys can eventually get dates through cold approach it they do enough approaches. Though self improvement does drastically increase your success rate, so that's why it's an essential part of pickup. Your success rate is just approach volume * approach efficiency. Up the volume by cold approaching, up the efficiency by getting fit and confident.
/r/seduction22/10/21 02:42 PM
1

Once you realize there are lots of options out there, you stop caring so much about Amy particular one's rejection. It's a good thing.
/r/seduction21/10/21 01:39 PM
1

Why not just meet girls in person? Having a good social media will help your dating life, but not having a good one won't necessarily harm it much.
/r/seduction21/10/21 04:34 AM
6

Link on any of these times we've supported people who've been expelled for cold approach? I don't disbelieve it, I just want to read for myself.
/r/seduction21/10/21 03:41 AM
0

I guess it depends on the tone you take in saying it, but in general I just view it as saying that you hope she takes it as a compliment.
/r/seduction18/10/21 04:18 PM
2

No it isn't? It's just expressing that you didn't mean anything harmful by it and you hope she took it well.
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:16 PM
-1

What is petty about telling someone "take it as a compliment?" It's a simple and nonthreatening way to say you understand and accept the rejection, but still hope the interaction brought her some level of positive energy to her.
/r/seduction18/10/21 12:47 PM
47

"take it as a compliment, have a nice day" with a smile
/r/seduction18/10/21 01:42 AM
2

Exactly. Some might say it make me seem needy/desperate, but I'm more than willing to follow up with a girl or wade through periods of her disinterest. Logically speaking, doing so just maximizes the chances you'll meet up with that girl. Simple as that. Maybe it would deter me if I was going for a committed relationship, but for something casual, I'm casting my ego aside and just trying to maximize my chances.
/r/seduction17/10/21 01:39 AM
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I'm not a fan of ego-boosting methods like this. Basically in doing this, you're saying "girls need to treat me like I'm one of the hottest & highest value men in the world, or they aren't worth my time." It's dumb. You're not the hottest & highest value man in the world. You're letting your ego get in the way of some potentially great experiences.
/r/seduction16/10/21 02:45 PM
3

Imo, 2-3 minutes is more than enough time. I find that longer convos and even instadates don't tend to decrease flake rate. If anything, I find these quick conversations to be better. It leaves an aura of mystery about you.
/r/seduction12/10/21 08:40 PM
5

I hate that style of game as well. Feels rapey to me. That's why I prefer daygame. You're talking to sober women, often of higher intelligence than you'd find at a club, and having genuine conversations with them that don't involve lies and deception. It just feels so much more honest and the connections feel deeper.
/r/seduction11/10/21 10:44 PM
4

I did those things Pre-Covid and am gearing up to do them again in the near future. I don't think it makes me weird, it's pretty normal if you do it respectfully. Got to take your dating life in your own hands.
/r/seduction11/10/21 12:39 AM
4

It's not that it instantly makes women want you, but being rich can give you the financial resources to do other things that help in dating, like dressing with good fashion, taking girls on interesting dates, getting professional pictures taken for apps, buying the premium version of apps, hiring a fitness coach, etc... In my experience (I have a couple of close friends who are very wealthy rn), being wealthy also gives men a certain sense of security and confidence that is attractive to women. …
/r/seduction10/10/21 04:15 PM
5

For real, a 27 year old wealthy man should be doing very well living in a college town.
/r/seduction10/10/21 04:07 PM
2

University towns are pretty great for casual dating in terms of logistics. College campuses have the highest volume of women in the world in one location who have enough free time to casually date. However, if you're looking for something more serious and people your age to settle down with, moving to a bigger city with lots of professionals might be the move. Imo, the hgihest quality of people end up moving to the biggest handful of cities, so if you want access to them, you got to move there t…
/r/seduction10/10/21 03:54 PM
7

I don't get why he should lie. He has a high-value job. He should learn how to turn age into less of a big deal. He probably cares about it more than they do.
/r/seduction10/10/21 03:51 PM
2

I'll add to this that pretty much any hobby that doesn't involve lots of equipment can be done in public just as easily as from home. Like literally just going to a bookstore/coffee store to read or even watch Netflix will expose you to so many more women on your daily routine than doing the same from home will.
/r/seduction05/10/21 11:03 PM
1

Step 1: better wording please Step 2: assuming you're not a pedophile/flasher and just want advice on how to naturally encounter more women on the course of your day to cold approach: study for career development at libraries or coffee shops, get groceries more frequently, go do your hobbies that you can in public (reading, Netflix, etc can all be done at a park or bookstore). Just always keep your eye out everywhere you go and try to be out the house more often. Also, the op way is to just live…
/r/seduction05/10/21 11:00 PM
1

Are you actually talking to these other women through abundance increasing methods like cold approach, online dating, volunteering, going out to bars, etc... If not, I'd agree it would be hard to actually believe you have abundance.
/r/seduction04/10/21 04:56 PM
1

The most important thing in meeting women is taking initative. If you are good looking and confident, odds are you'd still struggle to find dates if you aren't approaching women in some way.
/r/seduction03/10/21 10:24 PM
27

Cold approach, online dating, friend group, activities, classes, clubs, etc... Literally anywhere but the place where you make money to feed yourself and keep a roof over your head.
/r/seduction03/10/21 06:51 AM
3

Go back in time and take the advice of almost everyone on this sub and don't shit where you eat by asking out a coworker.
/r/seduction03/10/21 06:50 AM
4

For someone as young as you, not really. Why wouldn't a college campus be realistic?
/r/seduction01/10/21 03:14 AM
3

I think the reason the advice on Seddit is to not hit on wen at your workplace, while many people irl actually meet their girlfriend at work, is because the way we view dating is fundamentally different than most people. Most men get caught up on one woman they have a crush on for a while, get to know her, then finally build up the courage to ask her out. In this sort of scenario, it might be totally fine to ask out a coworker if she's the only one you've been talking to and you've got to know h…
/r/seduction01/10/21 03:04 AM
2

I know in reality a lot of people have met their spouse through work, but in general, I find hitting on women you work with to be something that just screams scarcity mentality. You're risking your source of income or at least workplace harmony for these women, when there are literally millions of other ones you could approach and not have these issues with.
/r/seduction01/10/21 02:58 AM
14

College campuses are the best place on earth to meet women during the daytime.
/r/seduction01/10/21 02:55 AM
8

This. Everyone on this sub massively overreacts to someone not responding. In reality, maybe only 12% of girls will respond again after they stop responding. But thats still more than out of every 10. You're getting so much more sex and relationship opportunities by following up, and you're risking absolutely nothing to do so.
/r/seduction29/09/21 09:23 PM
18

Hate this mindset. There's nothing you stand to lose from sending 1 more message trying to reignite the connection, and there's a lot you gain. It's risk free and high reward. Go for another message op, don't let your ego hold you back from doing the logical thing and giving it one more try.
/r/seduction29/09/21 09:21 PM
2

If you broadcast to the world that you're trying to date uni students, they might call you perverted, but by in large how will they know? Do you think that in large cities with tens of thousands of uni girls that they're going to magically discover this one 30 year old is cold approaching a lot of them? Doubtful. And even if they do, couldn't you just move to another city and start over? Lots of those girls will give you time of day even though you're older, some might even see it as a plus. Jus…
/r/seduction29/09/21 03:50 PM
1

Yes it is worth it. You still have time. Imagine if you spend the next 5 years working on self development and game. You'll still just be 35. That gives you time to find a wife to settle down with if that's what you want. Have kids at 40, they leave home when you hit retirement age. It's not like you're 40. You've got 10 years to get to where you need to be to settle down before you start to really run out of time to have that normal life.
/r/seduction29/09/21 03:46 PM
1

Exactly. It's also just so many options. Sure social circle and OLD can find you a girlfriend/wife, it's done it for most people. But is that girlfriend/wife really the best one you could find? Is she really the best match for you, the most your type looks wise, etc or was she just available by proximity or willingness to message you back? Daygame opens the door to a while new world of options out there. People say daygame is just for hooking up, but I disagree so much. Daygame is how you can gi…
/r/seduction27/09/21 06:52 PM
16

OLD apps can be gamed and optimized for your success, but at the same time, I feel like daygame is far superior in just about every way. You get access to a much larger pool of women, these women are often higher quality, your competition is much lower (since most guys don't do daygame), you don't have to match with them to talk to them, there's potential for instant dates, and you get to easily convey your personality. Men who want abundance in their dating life should do both daygame and OLD. …
/r/seduction27/09/21 04:04 PM
0

Or you know... you could stop playing childish games and just fuck her
/r/seduction26/09/21 09:28 PM
1

Have you considered just doing approaches as you go about your day? I used to daygame in college by "sarging" as they say (going out just to daygame), and it always made me feel like a creep. It's less creepy when you just go out about your daily business and approach as you go. You also get access to a wider variety of people to approach. Examples of places you could approach: walking between classes, when getting groceries, in the library when you see someone cute (position yourself in a spot …
/r/seduction26/09/21 08:07 PM
1

Yeah, college campuses are the OP place to daygame, especially if you live at home. There's a high volume of friendly and open-minded attractive people who have their own place. Daygame was so much easier back in college, that when I was thinking critically about it a year after graduating when I was super lonely from lack of places to daygame, I realized, shit why don't I just go back to this campus sometimes. It's a public school, I live within driving distance, and it isn't that hard to expla…
/r/seduction26/09/21 03:19 PM
1

I kinda wish I had this preference. It's so much more socially acceptable than my preference of liking mostly 19-22 year olds as I get into my upper 20s.
/r/seduction26/09/21 12:35 AM
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In general, the best move is to mostly date college girls who have their own dorms.
/r/seduction25/09/21 06:29 PM
1

No I don't think I'm entitled to a girl dating me. I specified that I understand why the standard exists and it's something I'm trying to fix about myself. I'm just observing as someone who has gained and lost 100 pounds at different seasons of his life, that it seems like the weight factor is given way higher priority over the others. I'm just pointing out that there should be other disqualifying factors from dating like weight that aren't so surface level. I don't feel like a victim, in fact i…
/r/seduction24/09/21 02:46 AM
1

I don't think I'm a victim. In fact, I said in my original post that I know weight loss will be the best way for me to be successful in dating. I'm justing making an observation that some factors are weighted highly above others in terms of dating standards.
/r/seduction24/09/21 02:36 AM
1

I'm not saying fitness shouldn't be a standard. I'm saying it should be a standard comprable to other standards. It shouldn't just be that a unsuccessful, broke, drug addicted beef cake can get all the dates he wants while the people who've got the rest of the shit figured out but struggle with weight are basically undatable.
/r/seduction24/09/21 02:14 AM
0

No I'd rather build a successful life financially. As I have been doing. Just wish that was tempted even 1/4th as high as weight on people standards. The point wasn't that weight shouldn't be part of someone's standards, just that the other factors should matter just as much. I see so many broke junkies with no prospects crushing the dating game while lots of otherwise successful but fat men have little hope in game at all.nl
/r/seduction24/09/21 02:08 AM
1

Yeah, as an obese person I definitely feel like like weight gets weighted way higher than other problems when selecting a mate. I've gone through long periods of my life both fit and obese. Fitness is a problem that's relatively easy to fix compared to other major problems in life. It's easier to cut calories than it is to get a degree that gets you a job in your industry, save money, defeat a drug addiction, become a compassionate person, etc... Yet fit jerk junkies in a shit job drowning in co…
/r/seduction23/09/21 02:10 PM
4

Why is it that all newbies always start with approaching either at work or the gym? Both are terrible places to do so, but especially work. Is it really worth risking your reputation at work for a chance to date a coworker when there are millions of single women out there you don't work with?
/r/seduction21/09/21 07:28 PM
3

Personally I don't, I prefer to do daygame
/r/seduction20/09/21 11:11 PM
0

This will be somewhat controversial on here, but imo going for this instant date, especially as a beginner, is a bad idea. It can make her feel trapped and it can also take away the mystery/intrigue about you. It's better in general to ask her to meet up some other time.
/r/seduction20/09/21 04:16 AM
2

Why would there be anything wrong with that? People are allowed to have preferences on anything from weight, to height, to race. You can't control who you are attracted to, just embrace it (unless it's under 18 people).
/r/seduction20/09/21 02:53 AM
5

Yeah politics was the one I wasn't sure I should list. If you're both somewhat moderate it should be fine, but if you both have have polarized views and disagree generally, that's going to be a stressful relationship unless you're both extremely mature and capable of compartmentalizing stuff.
/r/seduction18/09/21 03:53 PM
66

I will take this a step further and say "if a relationship looks destined to fail, don't fight hard to keep her. For both your sakes, break up with her asap and move on. Trying to cling to a failing relationship is extremely unhealthy." By destined to fail, I mean the relationship is clearly not going to be compatible in the long run. Differences in things like religion, career goals, political views, desired for children, desired lifestyle, etc... that can be glazed over in the short-run but be…
/r/seduction18/09/21 03:38 PM
7

Yeah everything is easier in college, but don't neglect future you either. Start building up that successful lifestyle from a young age.
/r/seduction17/09/21 09:26 PM
5

Right, but the vast majority of guys who do that are catcalling or extremely nervous. I bet the vast majority of them rarely if ever get approached by normal guys acting normally and not creeping them out or intimidating them.
/r/seduction17/09/21 08:18 PM
18

Very true. Daygame is the best dating strategy, as it gives you a low risk high reward access to a high volume of potential dates that are a lot higher quality than you can access online. It so differentiates you from the pack in a serious way. Only thing I will add is that if you want to keep 9s and 10s around, also have some real substance in your life. Anyone can spam cold approaches and get lucky and grab a date with a hot girl. They might even be able to bs their way into fucking her or hav…
/r/seduction17/09/21 08:16 PM
2

Yeah, when seduction is your primary goal in life, you'll likely find a woman, but be unable to keep her around long-term
/r/seduction17/09/21 03:33 AM
1

Volume is still part of probability. A 1% approach done 100 times gets you the same results than a 25% approach through social circle done 4 times a year.
/r/seduction13/09/21 07:34 PM
10

Take it in stride and appreciate her honesty and that she wasn't going to waste your time.
/r/seduction12/09/21 05:07 PM
3

Let me give you some advice as someone who is in the exact same situation as you, but I have had one girlfriend before. Having a girlfriend is nice, but it doesn't solve your problems. What happened to me is I improved myself just so I could get a girlfriend, and the moment I did, all those improvements went away. I gained all the weight back and then some, I lost my professional ambition, I stopped caring about my social circle, etc... Getting a gf was all I wanted, and hence these changes I ma…
/r/seduction12/09/21 04:45 PM
1

It's more about keeping a girl around than getting one. Just about anyone can cold approach their way into getting a shot with a decent girl. But if she isn't attracted to your lifestyle, she's not going to stay around.
/r/seduction09/09/21 02:51 PM
5

Yeah, one of my best friends is this hyper social guy. Like he's social to the point many in his direct circle have been telling him he needs to learn to prioritize himself over socialization more. He is now a dating a really high quality woman after dating another high quality one before her. He's overweight and not particularly focused on career. He's just incredible at socializing and because of that he's never going to have to worry about finding a job or finding a woman. Extroversion is a s…
/r/seduction09/09/21 02:48 PM
43

How old are you? If you are a teen this isn't worrisome, if you're an adult run away quickly.
/r/seduction09/09/21 02:45 PM
2

Forget about her and go ask out a dozen more girls.
/r/seduction01/09/21 07:54 PM
3

If this is how you react to people you asked for advice giving it to you like it is, I completely understand why no girl wants to date you. 5'7" isn't a dating death sentence, or the population of America would be cut by 40%. Stop telling yourself lies and just do the work on yourself and on your game.
/r/seduction29/08/21 04:08 AM
3

There's obviously something else wrong with you that you are scapegoating on height. 5'7" is average in some parts of the world, and only 2 inches below average in the US. There's no reason it should disqualify you from dating. You are hiding behind this perceived issue and likely ignoring a more obvious issue. The obvious issue is probably not enough volume. Without talking to hundreds of girls a year, you're not getting enough volume to weather the variance and get consistent results. Go cold …
/r/seduction29/08/21 01:17 AM
1

Don't wait for this party and turn it into your moment to meet women and lose your v card. In fact, don't shit where you eat at all,.. The fact that you're limiting yourself to the gym you work at makes me thing you have a scarcity mindset. There are literally millions of other women out there who you could be approaching on a daily basis. Go talk to them. There's far less real world consequences to you when you fuck it up with these girls, whereas creeping out a coworker can have real ramificat…
/r/seduction28/08/21 01:55 AM
3

Back in my college days I once approached a high school freshman. I not only ejected from the set but from the whole store and went home to take a shower to feel clean again. Didn't approach for a few days after that one. You really just sometimes can't tell, anyone who does daygame will inevitably make a mistake like this, unless they limit their approaches to a college campus.
/r/seduction27/08/21 10:37 PM
3

Yeah, I don't see what the big deal is. If anything, his boss is lowkey being rude by reacting how she did. He didn't even hit on her. He just made an innocent mistake regarding her age (how was he supposed to know she's an adult supervisor without seeing her face?). If anything, I think it's a kinda cute situation.
/r/seduction27/08/21 10:36 PM
1

To be honest, I think you are really overreacting to this. I doubt there will be any consequence beyond that one awkward look for you, and if there is, she's being a real uptight person. Your only mistake is trying to hit on someone at work, don't shit where you eat. But even then, it wasn't clear from her perspective that you were trying to hit on her. You asked an innocent question to someone you assumed was a new co-worker at your job level. That isn't weird. Take it in stride and don't bring…
/r/seduction27/08/21 10:33 PM
4

Same. Truly situational opens where you didn't even go in trying to "pick someone up" tend to have the most success.
/r/seduction26/08/21 12:00 AM
1

The difference is that asking out the girls I listed can have profound social consequences within your social circle, or just really put a girl in an uncomfortable spot at her work or another situation she can't escape. It's.scarcity mindset. It's forgetting that there are a billion fish in the sea, and instead fixating on or two in your routine.
/r/seduction18/08/21 05:56 PM
2

Don't. Go talk to any of the hundreds of thousands of other women you could be talking to and stop fixating on 10 of them.
/r/seduction18/08/21 02:43 PM
0

Don't ask out women who's job it is to be nice to you. Ask out any of the literal thousands of other women you see on your daily routine. It's such a scarcity mindset to ask out employees currently working, girls you work with, girls you've been friends with a long time, etc...
/r/seduction18/08/21 02:41 PM
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Step 1: find a better job. No matter how long it takes. Make a solid plan for finding better employment and execute it. It could involve a TEM or business major at a college, or some sort of trade training. 12 hours days is not sustainable. I have a close friend who works those kind of hours and makes the same money as me. I'm doing well financially, he is drowning. Why? Because he spends massive amounts of money on getting entertainment in his short amounts of time off. By having way more time …
/r/seduction18/08/21 02:26 PM
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I'd add that his choice of venues to approach aren't great. Girls at the gym and at work are busy building their body and finances, it isn't the best place to hit on them. Beginners always approach at these places and it doesn't make sense to me, barring how accessible they are.
/r/seduction14/08/21 04:08 AM
3

Wait til like date 3 to bring it up
/r/seduction09/08/21 02:37 AM
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Plus NYC is an amazing city for daygame. Unlimited volume of women to approach and way less running in to the same people or potential social consequences by accidently approaching a friend of a friend.
/r/seduction06/08/21 10:48 PM
1

You are in the best city in the world to try daygame (approaching strangers during the daytime in non social settings). Literally just walk outside and you will see hundreds of eligible single women to talk to. Start talking to them.
/r/seduction06/08/21 10:47 PM
1

When giving advice on stuff like, it's best to go with average expected outcome. Yes, some girls would be flattered. Some girls would be flattered if you stated at their boobs for a minute before approaching. That doesn't mean it's good advice on average. Most girls who are at the gym and wearing headphones aren't going to be to receptive to a cold approach. Most girls aren't going to be flattered by a stranger chasing them down on the street to approach them. Best this sub can do is give advice…
/r/seduction03/08/21 05:34 PM
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Or when she's wearing headphones, or when you have to chase after her (ive definitely made the latter mistake before and it's at best creep, at worst can be seen as stalking, just don't do it).
/r/seduction03/08/21 03:49 PM
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Gym approach Chased after her She was wearing headphones Look we've all been there and made mistakes in cold approach. I've definitely done things that in hindsight were rude or creepy. But on this sub we shouldn't be massively upvoting people for having courage when the actions they take with the courage are so weird. Rather, we should offer constructive criticism and tell them to try it in a more normal way. Like go to a bookstore and compliment a girl standing around looking at books and not …
/r/seduction03/08/21 03:48 PM
1

In general, it's 10% of dudes getting 90% of the women and the rest are fighting over scraps. By calling a match a lottery ticket, I'm assuming OP isn't a 10% dude (because if he was, he wouldn't be posting on Reddit about 1 match not responding).
/r/seduction19/07/21 07:50 PM
1

Maybe there was another guy she also cancelled on
/r/seduction19/07/21 04:23 PM
2

Start by reframing how you view it. You're a 31 year old who's in total control of his financial situation. You've got a stable & well paying career. Just that puts you ahead of lots of men, you've got no idea how many men out here are 30 and don't even have 6 months living expenses tucked away for a rainy day. In this area of life, you are crushing it, and you should respect yourself a lot for that. Now in the route to this financial stability, you've lost a bit along the way. Dating life isn't…
/r/seduction18/07/21 10:25 PM
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Lack of volume is a real game killer. If you're this desperate for her to respond, you need to find a way to move to a city where there's enough girls that you don't cling to one stranger you haven't even talked to.
/r/seduction18/07/21 10:18 PM
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Dude a Tinder match is like a lottery ticket. You didn't fuck it up, it was just a low odds proposition to begin with. The only way you can overcome the long odds is through volume (meaning match with 100s of girls and work on perfecting your openers).
/r/seduction18/07/21 10:16 PM
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I'm not sure I fully agree with this. Yes it is important to take opportunities as they come, but also, there are sometimes where you will have legitimate things you need to prioritize in your life over women. The reverse way of saying your advise is "never turn down a chance to get with an attractive women, no matter what you have to give up in your personal/professional life" and I'd call that really weak inner game & self esteem. Yes take chances as they come, but no don't be afraid to turn d…
/r/seduction18/07/21 10:13 PM
3

Any weight loss advise? And also, did you do cold approaches as you were losing weight or just kinda decide it's not worth it given how being obese just lowers the odds of it working pretty drastically?
/r/seduction18/07/21 10:09 PM
2

Inspirational to see someone get into it in their mid-30's. Makes me feel more optimistic that I can make the necessary moves to change for the better at 24.
/r/seduction18/07/21 05:26 PM
1

The only acceptable response is "you have to come find out."
/r/seduction01/07/21 12:58 AM
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He's got a point that that's where all the professional women are but the beta terminology is dumb and it's always struck me that the people who use it have way too big egos.
/r/seduction30/06/21 01:26 AM
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A finance girl, consultant, physician, and lawyer in one day? Jfc I'll be lucky to meet one or two young professionals a month where I'm at.
/r/seduction29/06/21 08:41 PM
2

This happened to me at college. I actually approached the same girl 3 times in the same place. I felt like such a creep. Wish I had better facial recognition.
/r/seduction28/06/21 01:07 PM
1

Don't care that much. If a girl has a high body count, I'd probably just wrap it up extra tight
/r/seduction26/06/21 12:49 AM
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If you're approaching enough women as you need to get results, this is absolutely going to happen. You'll be interacting with all types of women, from the sweetest out there, to the meanest. You just have to accept that if you want to do cold approach. If you don't have the toughness to do that, cold approach isn't your best strategy.
/r/seduction17/06/21 09:14 PM
2

Age is one of my big hang-ups about doing daygame. I've definitely accidentally hit on girls that age, and I hate it. My age radar is just way off. Really the only way to avoid it, is just game at college campuses, where it's reasonable to assume the girls are all 18+.
/r/seduction16/06/21 10:15 PM
1

If you're not attracted to her then you should probably wait. Personally I find a lot of thick chicks attractive though (especially from behind).
/r/seduction09/06/21 11:58 AM
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Yeah, the research suggests that if you are vaccinated, you are safe to live your life as normal. If not, then keep distancing and masking.
/r/seduction08/06/21 02:09 PM
2

I think given recent developments and research, fully vaccinated people globally are good to go (highly unlikely to catch the virus, and even less likely to spread it). This is especially true in the US, where we are on the verge of having full capacity entertainment return. I was very gung ho on isolating during the pandemic (I saw my friends in person just once, and it was outdoors and distanced), but not adapting my position on it now that the data clearly shows vaccinated people are safe to …
/r/seduction08/06/21 02:08 PM
2

My dog ate mine bro, no joke. I think you can request a duplicate from the people who gave you the vaccine though, so not all is lost.
/r/seduction07/06/21 06:43 PM
1

Very true generally. I will say the pandemic did complicate things though, as many of us have had to go over a year without interacting with women in person.
/r/seduction05/06/21 12:31 AM
1

I do this. I just generally find reasons to do my own thing, but do it publically where I can met people. Like if I just wanted to chill and read or watch tv for the day, no reason I can't go do that at a coffee shop or bookstore. I get the same value out of my hobby and get to meet new women.
/r/seduction01/06/21 02:41 AM
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There are definitely women at some shows I go to, but for some of the more niche stuff I listen to, the audience definitely skews male. Which is fine, the value I take from it is the music, not the women. I concur on optimizing lifestyle. Pre pandemic I very intentionally designed my lifestyle away from work to give me organic opportunities to meet women. I'd study at coffee shops for professional exams, go to the store at a slightly higher frequency, and just generally find other ways to get ou…
/r/seduction01/06/21 01:01 AM
1

Exactly. I used to think (back in college) that I needed to select hobbies specifically to be able to meet women doing them. Now I've realized doing that is fake, and it's a lot better to just do my own thing (even though my hobbies of poker, music festivals, and frisbee don't exactly give me lots of opportunities to meet women), and meet women at other times in my life. I'm never going salsa dancing, or bar hopping, or to a book club, to meet women. I'll just come across as a loser who's there …
/r/seduction31/05/21 11:09 PM
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Personally, I'm not a huge fan of starting hobbies specifically to meet women. As an introvert, it would just be really incongruent to my chosen lifestyle. That's why cold approach and apps are great. They allow you to meet people within the confines of the life you want to live. I'd much rather chat up the woman at the bookstore I go to to study than force myself to do salsa dancing (an activity I'd hate), in hopes of meeting a woman. Cold approach is your ticket to not having to give up your o…
/r/seduction30/05/21 08:50 PM
1

Nice! I'm about to start doing approaches again now that I'm fully vaccinated. Been a rough almost 15 months without them.
/r/seduction30/05/21 08:48 PM
1

I thought from the title that his advice was "don't be a nice guy TM" but reading through it it seemed more like his advice was "pamper any girl you're dating regardless of whether she reciprocated your kindness in any way," which is just horrible advice that's going to leave you broke and alone.
/r/seduction29/05/21 02:33 PM
2

I disagree with. Yes men should be genuinely kind and do kind things for people in their live without any expectation of reciprocation, and expecting something in return is a nice guy TM mentality. However, if you're in a relationship with a woman who you're giving the world to, but she's not showing even remotely the same level of care to you, it's not a "nice guy" move to just pack your shit up and leave. You deserve someone who cares about making you happy. I also think im general it's a terr…
/r/seduction29/05/21 02:31 PM
1

I agree that becoming the man who can attract the girl of your dreams is really the only surefire way of finding a quality woman in the long run. What would you advise people to do in the meantime while becoming that man? I'm currently obese, working on developing a career from my dead end job, and adressing issues with anxiety/depression/focus issues. Can I still date in the meantime? Is it even worth my time?
/r/seduction27/05/21 11:50 PM
2

Have you ever approached? Girls will lie or exaggerate about having boyfriend's pretty frequently.
/r/seduction25/05/21 09:33 PM
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This is why I personally don't like asking if she has a boyfriend. Opens the door for her to lie. I prefer to just plow through the interaction, and let her bring him up if he exists and is an issue.
/r/seduction25/05/21 09:32 PM
2

Girls will say they have a boyfriend as a lie or give out their number because they feel uncomfortable and want the interaction to be over. Assuming she's a cheater because of the interaction is a far stretch of the imagination.
/r/seduction25/05/21 09:31 PM
14

This. OPs advice is only good for avid readers who genuinely want to join book clubs. For other people, this would be a very inauthentic approach.
/r/seduction25/05/21 01:24 PM
1

I'm not a fan of this style of approach. It feels very disingenuous. Rather than concocting this convaluted book club story, I'd rather just ask about the book she's reading or just straight up tell her she's seems cute and intelligent. Trying to indirectly slide in there through going to a club meeting just to get her specifically seems borderline creepy to me.
/r/seduction25/05/21 01:21 PM
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I'm not a fan of this method at all. In my experience in the field, all this does is make it so you approach way less women because you inaccurately interpret her body language far too often. Just approach. If she doesn't like your approach, you should be able to tell within a minute.
/r/seduction24/05/21 09:43 PM
4

Personally I think he should show it off directly and confidently. Post shirtless and sporty pics with the caption "reclaiming the phrase quarantine body." Why not show it off?
/r/seduction22/05/21 02:53 PM
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This is a really bad take. Showing off your body in none bragadocious ways (candid photos) I'd a really good idea. It shows you are confident and attractive. Why work your ass off to earn that body if you're just going to hide it from the world.
/r/seduction22/05/21 02:49 PM
1

Yes. You've worked hard to earn this body... Show it off. Especially on dating sites if you use them.
/r/seduction22/05/21 02:47 PM
2

I just don't think the accuracy of them is high. I'm not saying don't keep an eye out for them as invitation to approach someone, but I'm just saying I'm not going to not approsch someone I'm very interested in just because she doesn't make lingering eye contact with me. Like I remember one time I was studying in the library and this girl across the room was smiling at me and making good eye contact, so I approached her, and she basically laughed at me. Whereas I've had plenty of times where gir…
/r/seduction18/05/21 07:27 PM
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Even if that is true 100% of the time (it isn't), I think the idea in general just leads you to missing out on a lot of approaches. It's also saying "I'm only going to approach girls who were attracted to me at first sight.". You then eliminate your ability to win her over with your personality (which is almost my whole entire game).
/r/seduction18/05/21 05:05 PM
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I'm not a big fan of using the choosing signals. While it sounds good on paper to only approach when her eye contact gives you "permission," I think in reality all it does is massively limit the number of girls you get to approach. For instance, it almost entirely rules out shy girls... I really think making eye contact is more of a sign of confidence than it is of attraction. I prefer to just approach girls unless she gives me a clear reason not to (she's wearing headphones, she's in a rush, et…
/r/seduction18/05/21 04:20 PM
1

Only one way to find out. And if she doesn't, there's still billions of women out there who might. What does the opinion of one matter?
/r/seduction16/05/21 12:52 AM
2

I mean it sounds like you're both seniors graduating soon. You should probably just ask her out on a date. Normally I'm not big on recommending such a direct approach small school environments, because it can fuck your rep, but you guys got like what 2 months left? Just ask her out.
/r/seduction16/05/21 12:51 AM
1

Sometimes. For whatever reason though, I prefer venues like coffee shops and grocery stores. Every feels like they're in a hurry on the streets.
/r/seduction16/05/21 12:48 AM
3

The best pickup coaches are the ones who view pickup as just a small part of building a better life for yourself. The ones who focus on shady and manipulative techniques should be ignored.
/r/seduction16/05/21 12:47 AM
1

Start with a few indirect approaches like asking for directions. You'll slowly build comfort and confidence to go for more direct compliments and openers.
/r/seduction16/05/21 12:46 AM
0

Yes. Most people who say stuff like this are just complaining, and actually very much do want to find a quality person. Men will do this to where we say we want to stay single and just hang with our bros.
/r/seduction16/05/21 12:43 AM
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Most of game is just variance. Flakes are part of variance. If you get enough volume of interactions, some will most likely go your way. Don't read into why a girl flakes, just move past it. Personally, I like to follow up one more time after she flakes. Why? Because I don't take flakes or rejection personally and sending a following up raises my chances of taking her out from zero to non zero. If you can't set your ego aside and you refuse to do things like send 2nd texts because it hurts your …
/r/seduction12/05/21 05:13 PM
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This all seems like the perfectly calm and collected response of a guy who has the right mentality to succeed at a social activity like pickup. So anybody who disagrees with you and has a different view on game is a "fat basement dweller with no infield experience.". I am fat, but I'm no basement dweller and I've got years of infield experience, approaching hundreds of women. Haven't got much success, but that's why I come here. Because I've learned from what I did wrong and want to help beginne…
/r/seduction12/05/21 03:29 PM
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Dude, the approaching part is ok. At least in the opinion of almost everyone on this sub. No one is faulting you for cold approaching. We're taking issue with you not showing much empathy in your approach once you had already approached her. Calling her snobby (to us) and generally blaming her for the interaction going poorly, as well as not seeing from her perspective how your approach could come across pushy. Not only are you not showing empathy to her, you're showing an even more problematic …
/r/seduction12/05/21 03:14 PM
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I used to think like this too. All this logic did was lead me to making more mistakes, some of which could've ended up much worse for me than they actually did given I was doing approaches on my college campus. Girls will often not verbalize or make it known that they want out of an interaction. Many reasons for this exist, but try to be empathetic to her as the stranger who approached her. There are times where instant dates are ok, but for beginners and even intermediates, it's usually just be…
/r/seduction12/05/21 03:07 PM
3

From approaching hundreds of women, I've learned somewhat how to pick up on verbal and non verbal queues that my presence isn't welcome. And you missed quite a few. Hence the flake. And the fact that you're still on here arguing you didn't do anything incorrectly and judging this women as snobby based of an incredibly short cold approaching and basically blaming the failure on her and not yourself is very telling to me that you have a mindset issue.
/r/seduction12/05/21 03:00 PM
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Feedback has to be harsh sometimes. This sub becomes a bit of an echo chamber with field reports. Sometimes someome needs to step up and say when they see someone making mistakes. Like it shouldn't take the most experienced guy on Seddit to see that he made a mistake walking with her (this sub always recommends stopping a girl, not tagging along which feels likes following). It's also clear from the excuses she's giving like "you know where to find me" that's she's not into him. That's a classic…
/r/seduction12/05/21 04:05 AM
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Rn not many due to Covid. 14 months ago, probably at least a dozen on a slow week. I'm just saying in my experience I've found it bad to impose yourself on her like that. I've had some experiences where I've even instant dated girls and then they flake. From reflecting on my behavior, it's clear in hindsight that the instadate often wasn't wanted and she just said yes because she's bad at sharing no. Aka I was too pushy.
/r/seduction12/05/21 03:57 AM
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This field report comes across kinda pretentious and weird to me. You imposed yourself on her when she walking, then came back and hit on her at her place of work where she'd be uncomfortable rejecting you. Then you did the awkward arm touch. I'm a big fan of cold approach, but you're just not doing it well here.
/r/seduction12/05/21 02:57 AM
2

Really? You just grab it. Between venue A & venue B I'll just grab her hand.
/r/seduction11/05/21 11:47 PM
2

This is a classic overcomplicating of things on this sub. It's pretty simple. If you want to kiss her, kiss her. Usually wait towards 2/3rds of the way in and preferable have held her hand before going for this kiss. In general, what I like to do is just hold her hands and walk (maybe say let's take a walk outside if we are in a venue) and then stop at some emotional spike and/or lull in the convo and kiss her. Isn't hard.
/r/seduction11/05/21 08:37 PM
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Covid is probably making girls a bit more apprehensive about cold approach, but with the pandemic in the US more or less starting to be forgotten, this coming up summer it should get easier again. Kinda frustrates me how many people on this sub ask questions like this without even considering the obvious variable that's holding them back (global pandemic that has many people intentionally avoiding strangers).
/r/seduction11/05/21 08:32 PM
3

Isn't it a little concerning that you can't tell if the girls are of age though? From what I've seen, Omegle skews U-18.
/r/seduction10/05/21 12:41 AM
2

I might try it out. Been a minute since I've done game due to the pandemic. Restrictions are ending in a month where I am, so I need some practice
/r/seduction10/05/21 12:00 AM
2

I feel like your post doesn't really talk much about how Omegle translates into helping with cold approach. Could you elaborate on that?
/r/seduction09/05/21 04:58 PM
2

Cold approach with direct intent. Then they'll know from the off that you're not looking for a friend.
/r/seduction09/05/21 04:56 PM
11

No, he's going to need a different Pfizer product for this encounter.
/r/seduction05/05/21 06:20 PM
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She's getting Johnson & Johnson, and the Johnson
/r/seduction05/05/21 01:05 PM
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Being older doesn't mean you're necessarily mature. I'm 24, but don't have much dating experience. I'm also still only just beginning development with my career and my fitness. For these reasons, I prefer girls close to 20-21 (but would have no moral qualms about hooking up with an 18 year old), I think we're in similar states of maturity and development. And not every relationship is some predatory thing where the older dude hunts down and manipulates the naive 18-year-old girl to be his slave.…
/r/seduction03/05/21 11:23 PM
1

But, at least in America, pretty much everyone who wants a vaccine has gotten one, so the only ones you're spreading it to is the dumbasses who didn't get it for themselves (aka social darwinism). The risk of dying for a fully vaccinated person is incredibly low.
/r/seduction03/05/21 11:21 PM
1

Depends on if this guy has been vaccinated or not yet. If he hasn't, then I agree.
/r/seduction03/05/21 05:54 PM
2

Probably just need to have a convo about it. Personally, I knew I wouldn't be comfortable getting in someone's personal space given my (and my households) risk level for Covid, so I just choose not to date until now (I have the vax now). If she's in the same boat, respect her boundaries.
/r/seduction03/05/21 05:53 PM
3

Generally I'll just say, "well it was still nice meeting you. Have a good day" with a smile and I'll walk away.
/r/seduction03/05/21 05:49 PM
3

Disagree. I'd willingly go for an 18 year old college freshman (I'm 24), but would never go for a high school girl, even if she was 18. Just because there are guys who prefer younger women, doesn't mean they're all borderline pedophilic creeps who'd have no lines if not for laws.
/r/seduction03/05/21 05:46 PM
2

I've definitely accidently approached underaged girls before. I hate that it happens, but frankly there is no way to guarantee you won't, it is hard to judge people's age by looking at them. I generally try to ask about their college major or something else that would help me judge their age early on in convo. I prefer to mostly approach at college campuses for this reason... Almost everyone is at least 18, so you're never going to accidently approach a 15 year old. Approaching at places like Ta…
/r/seduction03/05/21 05:43 PM
1

There's an argument to he made that something like talking to your first strangers is part of the holistic self development process involved in seduction, but this just reads as an uncalibrated guy jerking himself off for lecturing two strangers and using that as s substitute for the fulfillment he should be getting from cold approsch.
/r/seduction30/04/21 12:33 AM
1

This guy literally says he's too much of a "bitch" to cold approsch women (like that's a valid excuse) and then goes to really his story of condescendingly lecturing two strangers, as if it that was somehow a worthwhile accomplishment to post on a forum about dating. All I see is a guy who's making excuses for himself.
/r/seduction30/04/21 12:30 AM
2

There is quality advice I'm this sub, but it's becoming rarer and rarer. Just 4 years ago this sub was heavily focused on stuff like self development and the more holistic seduction approach from Mark Manson's Models. Now it seems like a lot of incels who just don't know that they're talking about. Some ridiculous shit gets upvoted in this sub. A month ago, there was this absolutely absurd post by this guy talking about how he doesn't want "her validation, he wants her submission.". Some of the …
/r/seduction30/04/21 12:28 AM
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Thinking that you ruined their night with that is, imo, narcissistic. You're just some stranger who had a somewhat awkward interaction with them. To assume it ruined their night just shows you think you have more power over them than you actually do. Forget about it and move on.
/r/seduction29/04/21 08:55 PM
1

100% agree with this, that's good advice. In the movie dates I have fucked up, it was because I didn't make a move right away and I kept waiting for the right moment that never came and kept psyching myself out of making the move. Hand to the knee seems like a good first move, I'd never considered that. Certainly less awkward if it goes wrong than a hand around shoulder from the start.
/r/seduction29/04/21 08:41 PM
2

Yeah that seems like a good date structure. The logic of the one I was suggesting (dinner and a movie) for beginners is that it's hard to fuck it up or have it ruined by awkwardness. Everyone hates on that date plan on this sub... to the point I think it's underrated. You just go for dinner where you have to muster up 30 minutes of conversation, then go into a silent room for 2 hours, which means you don't have to worry about awkward silences or other beginner stuff. It's super easy to escalate …
/r/seduction29/04/21 08:25 PM
1

My bad
/r/seduction29/04/21 08:18 PM
2

Because I'm sure those strangers wanted to spend their whole dinner listening to a lecture on life advice from a stranger. Sounds like you crashed a party, trapped them for hours, and then just left. It would been a lot more respectful to just say hi, single out the one you were interested in, ask her out, and then have a convo about career solo sometime. Now you've just potentially weirded out two younger people in your very own profession. And you somehow got a high off this? And you find you'…
/r/seduction29/04/21 06:15 PM
1

I personally don't like rejection, I just don't mind it anymore. If anything, it's a sign that I'm getting the right volume in my approaches to eventually not get rejected. A guy who gets rejected 100 times is far more likely to find a girlfriend than I guy who asks one girl out every 3 years and crys himself to sleep when she rejects him.
/r/seduction29/04/21 06:11 PM
2

I don't think it's necesarrily creepy. And even if it is, who cares? You don't know these girls irl, there won't be real social consequences for you, especially if you make sure you're dm'img girls who don't know your friends. Just shoot your shot. It's going to be low success rate, but with high volume, I could see it working some.
/r/seduction27/04/21 07:53 PM
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If you're out that late, the streets aren't the right place to be gaming. You will scare a lot of women. Just go to a bar or club, where there are plenty of women to approach who aren't going to be weirded out by a dude approaching them in the pitch black on the streets.
/r/seduction27/04/21 07:50 PM
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I agree. There's a lot of cringeworthy advice posts on here and lots of incel like mindsets. I miss the days of field reports, self improvement/more macro level game advice based on Mark Manson's Models. Nowadays so much of this sub is "how do I get this one girl?" or "(insert delusional alpha mentality probably wrote by a 13 year old virgin).".
/r/seduction27/04/21 07:47 PM
3

I think reframing "cold approach" as "be social on your daily routine" would do well for it's public perception. The advise of talking to everyone you see, whether male or female, is far less controversial. If that person happens to be a cute female in the line at the coffee shop, cool. If it's a businessman in a suit in the same line, all the same.
/r/seduction23/04/21 06:46 PM
2

Also, your advice post on that uni sub was solid. Nothing wrong with it. The UK has a really negative reception of cold approach rn, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with in normal times if you are respectful and respect boundaries. Good on you for putting some people on the right path.
/r/seduction23/04/21 06:44 PM
3

The only problem with cold approach rn is the pandemic and adding risk to a stranger without their consent is crossing a line imo. Once your vaccinated though, I see it as normal again. I'd hate to live in a world where cold approach is permanently gone.
/r/seduction23/04/21 06:37 PM
-4

Doing the right thing is the right thing. Struggling to do the right thing, then coming online and expecting some kind of validation for deciding to do the right thing in the end is unnecessary. I don't come on here asking for praise every day I don't go out and rob a bank.
/r/seduction20/04/21 03:15 AM
6

Your sample size is too small to draw conclusions. There will be a massive variance in reaction from person to person. The fact that you are drawing generalizations like "women my age give me a weird vibe" and "unattractive women aren't receptive" leads me to think you aren't approaching enough people to have sufficient information to conclude anything.
/r/seduction20/04/21 02:23 AM
-12

I'm just saying that it's no special thing of OP to do this. He's seeking validation for just doing what should be expected of a reasonable person.
/r/seduction19/04/21 11:04 PM
13

Still she was drunk. It's definitely a morally grey area, but I personally wouldn't hook up with a girl who is clearly mentally inhibited by alcohol. It presents huge legal and moral issues.
/r/seduction19/04/21 10:03 PM
0

Watchu want, a cookie?
/r/seduction19/04/21 09:38 PM
-21

Does it though? It seems like a very straightforward decision when the options are (a) rape the drunk girl and (b) be a decent human being. This post is a classic wanting credit for something they supposed to do situation. Kudos for not raping her, I suppose? All though I'm kind of sketched out he took so long to come to that decision and made a post about it seeking validation.
/r/seduction19/04/21 09:31 PM
3

I believe authenticity helps with women. Hoeever, one area faking it can help is in the confidence department. Women are generally very attracted to confident men, so if you can raise her perception of your confidence level, even if deep down you are very insecure, you'll have better chances. In general, I've found that high confidence is the single most important factor in dating for men. More than money, looks, and fame
/r/seduction19/04/21 09:29 PM
4

There's a simple way to find out: ask her out.
/r/seduction19/04/21 09:27 PM
1

Insta game is something that's always fascinated me. It's another one of those passive channels you can use to meet women without having to put too much effort in. I think you'd need a really good profile (good pics of you doing interesting stuff) and lots of followers (even if you have to buy them).
/r/seduction19/04/21 09:26 PM
125

This is definitely a move you can do in your social circle. Show some light interest, then just completely ignore her for a while. I believe it's called push/pull. I doubt it works with cold approach much, simply because you don't often get to see them a second time, but I'm glad it worked out for you here! While I am a fan of direct approaches, sometimes leaving your level of interest ambigous can really attract a girl to you
/r/seduction19/04/21 09:22 PM
2

That's not the only way, there's also just go about to any girl in the hall, ask to speak to her privately, and ask her
/r/seduction15/04/21 06:21 PM
2

Well either way, you won't be seeing these people from high school ever again, so just ask anyone you want and don't worry about your reputation. I'm 24, and I can count on one hand the number of high school classmates I'm still in regular communication with.
/r/seduction15/04/21 06:20 PM
2

At that checks out. Just ask someone, but if it doesn't work out, don't worry. College is where all the fun is to be had.
/r/seduction15/04/21 06:18 PM
1

Genuine question: where are you in the world that an event like prom is happening this year? Very lucky.
/r/seduction15/04/21 06:17 PM
12

I haven't approached in over a year and a month due to the pandemic. Looking to get back into after my vax fully kicks in 3 weeks from now.
/r/seduction14/04/21 01:14 AM
0

It always baffles me how many people on this sub ignore the Covid variable when judging approaches. Yeah during the height of the pandemic, I wouldn't even want an attractive woman to get all up in my personal space at a grocery store. People have different levels of concern over this virus, so to me, it's completely understandable and rational that she'd flee your interaction.
/r/seduction12/04/21 07:24 PM
2

Pandemic is almost over. Get that vaccine and wait the 2 weeks after dose 2 for immunity then you should be ok to go game.
/r/seduction11/04/21 11:31 PM
1

I have depression and anxiety, grew up in poverty, and struggle with obesity. Just reminded this guy what am amazing spot on life he's in. Better to be a depressed doctor with all the money in the world to fix the problem than a depressed person making median income or less, knowing damn well that on top of your mental issues you have to deal with fixing your career, losing weight, etc...
/r/seduction11/04/21 05:52 PM
1

You're stereotyping. Most women I know want a husband to share the responsibilities with, and many of the men I know want a woman to share the responsibilities with. I would fucking hate marrying a woman who leeched off me.
/r/seduction11/04/21 04:48 PM
4

It's crazy how you didn't get a single freaking field report in these comments. This sub hasn't had many of those lately. Here's the most successful approach I had. In college I ran game a lot, but my inner game was shit so I fucked up a lot of great chances and didn't get anywhere with number closes or even first dates. However, one time I got somewhere: I was waiting to meet up with my ex girlfriend at the time (we had broken up but had a bit of an unhealthy emotionally confusing FWB situation…
/r/seduction11/04/21 04:13 PM
1

Well it's a lot easier to fix those problems than it is to go from a median income job to a doctor. You have such a gigantic leg up on the average dude. Maybe see a therapist and address those issues, because there's no reason you should be having these kind of self worth issues when you're a in shape doctor.
/r/seduction11/04/21 03:44 AM
7

" I'm attractive, in shape, I'll be a doctor in a couple months." Then what was the point of your post? Are you trying to get us to stroke your ego? You're going to be a top 10% man... if not 5%.
/r/seduction11/04/21 03:25 AM
2

Yeah getting attached in college (unless it's to a really great girl who wants to grow with you, rather than hold you back) would be a mistake. Sounds like you'd want a FWB kinda situation (some emotional connection, but no commitment). Plenty of college aged girls will go for that. As for girls not being your type, just look outside your normal social groups. As you go about your daily business on campus, if you see a girl who is your type, literally just go up to her and talk to her (maybe be …
/r/seduction11/04/21 03:08 AM
7

" I really have a path in mind for what I want to do, in fact I’ve outlined where I want to be and how to get there and have been confident in how to get there. I’m actively involved in academic clubs, and have a good standing as to where I want to be in general, working hard to where I need to be and just in general enjoy life right now and couldn’t be more happy with where I am. I truly have a passion for what im studying in college. I improve myself everyday, am always in the gym and feel hea…
/r/seduction11/04/21 02:57 AM
1

Got to embrace the variance to get positive results.
/r/seduction11/04/21 02:42 AM
3

God I hope it was satire...
/r/seduction09/04/21 08:39 PM
1

The op was obviously satire bro.
/r/seduction09/04/21 08:34 PM
3

Thatsthejoke.gif
/r/seduction09/04/21 08:33 PM
9

So you're giving them Johnson & Johnson, and the Johnson?
/r/seduction09/04/21 08:31 PM
1

Or "I don't want your validation, I want my own fulfillment"
/r/seduction06/04/21 02:35 PM
1

Why would I want a woman with such low self worth that she'll literally just give into my every command? That's not a romantic partner, that's a servant.
/r/seduction06/04/21 02:14 PM
3

I know a big time morbidly obese guy who works at a grocery store with a super hot girlfriend. Another friend I have is in terrible shape and working at a restaurant, but has success in large part due to his confidence. And it is completely possible to change your fitness, career, & confidence if you have a plan and dedication.
/r/seduction04/04/21 05:10 AM
2

I do actually. While being high value certainly helps, I think your assertation that women only want top 5% men is BS. Might be closer to 25% in reality. Women want men in good shape, with stable finances, and confidence. More than 5% of guys have those things.
/r/seduction04/04/21 04:58 AM
1

Source?
/r/seduction01/04/21 12:50 PM
3

Same but about college campuses. They are easily the biggest congregation of attractive open minded women on the planet, but the older I get (only 24 now), the weirder gaming them becomes.
/r/seduction01/04/21 04:29 AM
1

A woman (if you approach enough) will go for men in just about any state if he is confident and direct. Self improvement increases your success rate a whole lot, but so does approaching with confidence and directness. If you don't start approaching and learning how to talk to woman, then even once you're the man you want to be (if you ever even make it all the way there), you'll still just be a better man who can't talk to women. Do both. And yes, I did get success in that state. Not an insane a…
/r/seduction30/03/21 12:41 PM
1

Keep approaching. I've gotten success with game at 5'8" 250+ lbs. Do I want to be that way forever? Hell no. But that doesn't mean I can't both approach and work on losing weight. In fact the approaching is a lot of walking that helps with fitness.
/r/seduction29/03/21 09:33 PM
15

I think it's much more powerful when a man realises he has other options.
/r/seduction29/03/21 09:31 PM
3

No, in their life. Once you get the hang of approaching it really isn't that hard. Sure you might get a little nervous or anxious, but those first few approaches in my experience were the only ones that gave my close to body paralyzing anxiety.
/r/seduction28/03/21 02:41 AM
5

I'm not a big fan of this concept of specifically setting aside time to game, especially on weekends. I think it's a better idea to just make cold approach happen as you go about your daily routine, and if your routine doesn't have opportunities in it, create them by adding things in like studying at coffee shops and taking your dog to the park. Specifically saying game every weekend is a bad idea. There's so much enriching things you could be doing with your life, specifically reserving that am…
/r/seduction28/03/21 12:03 AM
3

The first 5 or so approaches (in someone's life) take a lot of bravery, but after that it's just a normal & simple thing to do.
/r/seduction28/03/21 12:00 AM
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A small piece of advice: doing 10 approaches until you don't "fail" is a bad idea. Cold approach is a high variance method of meeting people. So don't define failure as not getting the number or date, define it as not approaching someone you're interested in and have time to approach.
/r/seduction27/03/21 11:59 PM
2

For sure, it's been a great part of my life. The next step for me is just making sure I'm maximizing the comfort level of the women in the interaction. This is a tough world for them, and I want to make I'm empathizing and treating them fairly. I want to date them not scare them!
/r/seduction18/03/21 06:33 PM
1

Yeah thinking back on it I got lucky as shit that I didn't run into any backlash for doing cold approach on my college campus. It's a thing that's a lot better to do as an adult, since you aren't caught up in so many social entanglements and institutions.
/r/seduction18/03/21 06:30 PM
2

I can relate. I'm not autistic (at least not diagnosed) but my social skills aren't great and I have anxiety. I've definitely pushed boundaries too far sometimes (mostly just taking girls on instadate they probably felt trapped for and hugging to soon). I feel bad about it, but I have grown and learned and now feel I can comfortably approach a woman and recognize when she feels uncomfortable. I can't give up cold approach though. It's the only way I can find dates.
/r/seduction18/03/21 06:26 PM
2

Whoever's doing this type of cold approach you're talking about is a clown. They aren't doing cold approach the way most of us do. When done normally, cold approach is an extremely normal and social thing.
/r/seduction18/03/21 06:07 PM
2

Be honest with your intentions. It's not worth it to lie for sex.
/r/seduction18/03/21 06:04 PM
2

Cold approach is not dead. There are just times and places for it. Once the pandemic is over, I intend to start cold approaching my old regular spots: book stores, grocery stores, college campuses, concerts, etc... If you are approaching a woman in a manner in which she fears for her safety, you are doing it completely wrong. This is why we approach in public places, use time constraints, don't touch during the approach, etc... a 2 minute conversation with a woman in a public place in which you …
/r/seduction18/03/21 06:03 PM
1

Well you didn't really give her much to continue the conversation with. Maybe let it die down for a few days and try again with an open ended question about her travels or something. You can' really expect someone to respond to a statement.
/r/seduction16/03/21 07:30 PM
1

What did you message her? Whether you should follow up probably depends on that.
/r/seduction16/03/21 06:30 PM
1

I've got no moral qualms with paying for sex, but personally I find that the "seduction" process of meeting a girl, getting to know her, taking her out, and working your way up to getting physical with her is what I enjoy the most... even more than the sex. Paying for a hooker means you don't get any of that. I don't think sex without any sort of emotional bond would do it for me.
/r/seduction15/03/21 01:25 AM
2

No in fact I often think it's the opposite. Most of the guys I know who don't do much social media have better success with women. I personally do beleive in using social media though, I think it's a net plus to your dating game if you use it right.
/r/seduction15/03/21 01:22 AM
1

Most men (at least the ones I know) can't handle rejection when sober. The thought of going up to a stranger at a grocery store and asking her out is completely foreign to them. It's an ego thing and it's also a scarcity mindset. They forget there are literally millions of women out there to approach. Worst case scenario is you get rejected and perhaps develop a creepy reputation (but only in small cities where everyone knows each other). So what? Then you can just move elsewhere. That's what ma…
/r/seduction14/03/21 08:56 PM
1

College
/r/seduction14/03/21 08:50 PM
2

Because things like money, muscles, & fashion amplify the success you'll get with cold approach and OLD. They might not just automatically get you women, but they'll certainly increase your changes. Self development * approach frequency = success with women
/r/seduction14/03/21 08:49 PM
3

If she doesn't follow you, that means she went out of her way to like your pic. Shoot your shot in her dms.
/r/seduction14/03/21 08:47 PM
7

Because dating is an incredibly time consuming process. It's one of the most rewarding things you can do, but it can also completely destroy you if you aren't ready for it. Sounds like you're happy with how life is rn, so don't worry about dating for a while. Take a year or two to yourself. But I also find that most people who swear off dating end up meeting the perfect woman for them quickly after that.
/r/seduction14/03/21 08:44 PM
1

It's not God keeping you from getting women. It's your mentality. You have to beleive in yourself and persevere. If you do, eventually things will work out for you. But if you just sit on Reddit all day calling yourself an unattractive loser, that'll become a self fulfilling prophecy. At my worst (5'8" 250 lbs), I was able to get a hookup through cold approach. I doubt you are that bad looking. Stop talking to yourself like you do. Talking like an incel is more unattractive to woman than actuall…
/r/seduction11/03/21 02:56 PM
1

If you're going to get depressed and wish you died over ONE failed approach (in which you didn't even get firmly rejected), then I'm sorry, but you don't even have close to strong enough a mentality to handle the number of rejections you're going to have to get to reach a place of abundance. Most guys successful at this have gotten rejected hundreds of times and just brush it off and move on to the next.
/r/seduction11/03/21 02:52 PM
1

But attractive doctors, lawyers, etc... can just learn to talk to women too. What's to stop them from becoming that man without the distraction of pickup, then learning it when they're fully developed?
/r/seduction26/02/21 05:04 PM
2

Yeah that is surprising. I think the line that best makes your point, "you think a jacked guy making $90k a year has trouble talking to girls?" is a line every incoming college freshmen boy interested in women needs to hear as motivation to become that man.
/r/seduction26/02/21 04:52 PM
2

Second this. I wish I could go back to the days I was 18 and only reading about cold approach on this sub and consume more content about fitness, career, hobbies, etc... I'd be set up to be a slayer at my current age. Instead, I'm 24, and while I'm successful enough to provide for myself, I'm obese, working a dead job (even though I make enough to cover my expenses and put money away), and just generally not satisfied with my life. I will be working on improving myself, but I wish I would've ear…
/r/seduction26/02/21 04:12 PM
1

Agreed. Self improvement should be the focus of this sub. If you get too hyper obsessed with believing only approaching is what it takes, you become complacent and lose motivation to create a better life that will make meeting women easier. That's not to say don't approach. I've gotten success even at my physical worst (70 lbs obese). Just make approach a supplemental activity to living a life of self development.
/r/seduction26/02/21 04:04 PM
2

The majority of their advice is actually solid in my experience. I started to get worse results in game when I started to increase the length of my interactions and go for things like instant dates. Indirect openers haven't been as effective for me either. I think opening a girl with something that makes it clear why you're talking to her, giving a time constraint that makes it clear you won't linger or trap her, and then quickly going for the number is solid. I'd go for closer to 2-3 minutes th…
/r/seduction22/02/21 08:08 PM
3

Idk, there's so much variance in it. You could have success with the first 3 girls you meet, or not have any success until the 200th girl. 100 is too small a sample size to make any conclusions from.
/r/seduction21/02/21 10:31 PM
12

Even 100 girls is a small sample size in the big picture of things, in analyzing the success of your cold approach. It takes closer to 1,000-5,000 to evaluate your sucess.
/r/seduction21/02/21 09:30 PM
1

Depends on the venue. I think it would be awkward to sit next to someone and eat, but for drinks, it's ideal.
/r/seduction18/02/21 10:04 PM
1

I do think there are benefits to specialization. However, the focus should be on holistic self development, even if that means different coaches for different things. I find the best self development coaches are sometimes the worst dating coaches. Why? Because dating is easier for fit guys, and they've never had to learn nuanced methods of approach. You watch infield of guys like How To Beast and TUSK on YouTube, and it sucks. They approach in the most basic, flake inducing ways. But it often wo…
/r/seduction15/02/21 05:33 PM
8

Seducators?
/r/seduction15/02/21 03:25 PM
-5

The implication he's making is that you're never going to have kids if you listen to their advice, because you're never going to get laid in the first place, which is a prerequisite to having kids.
/r/seduction15/02/21 03:25 PM
13

Investing in dating coaching is almost always going to net you a lower return than investing in self development coaching. Find someone who will help you with holistic self improvement, not just dating.
/r/seduction15/02/21 03:22 PM
6

Missed shots are the hardest to deal with. I've done probably 1000 cold approaches in my life, and the ones I remember the most are the missed opportunities or the didn't approach. One that comes to mind is having a super flirtatious convo with a girl in a Chiptole line who was obviously into me, but just not asking for her number. Another one where I didn't approach was when I was just learning apporach (I'd maybe done 1 approach) and the Gods blessed me with a perfect opportunity: a cute girl …
/r/seduction10/02/21 04:15 PM
2

Strong eye contact, calibrated kino, & playfully teasing/misinterpretations.
/r/seduction08/02/21 02:06 PM
4

What's pathetic is risking your life and others for a little pussy you worthless peice of dog shit.
/r/seduction07/02/21 02:39 PM
3

Yeah moving 6 hours away and marrying a girl you've known for 90 days is sus, I'd be worried about that guy.
/r/seduction27/01/21 03:58 PM
1

Probably because there's an implied time constraint. Feels less dangerous talking to someone when you know you have an out in two minutes.
/r/seduction27/01/21 03:58 PM
1

I feel like one of two things happened here: (1) this guy talked about game to them in an obnoxious way, talking about stuff like getting laid and seducing them, rather than meeting and getting to know them (2) his friend is just straight up in to him and jealous that he's going to all this effort to meet someone when she's right there.
/r/seduction27/01/21 03:53 PM
1

Yeah, I do think framing was likely his issue. He's also on a small campus, which isn't conducive to game. I don't really have many close female friends, but if I did, I'd bring it up with them how I try to talk to be I'm interested in as I go about my daily life and try to get numbers from ones who I hit it off with. You gotta say it in the right way though.
/r/seduction27/01/21 03:50 PM
0

This guy is wrong about the way he's thinking but not for the reason you suggest. I like that he told his friends about his self development. Learning to talk to people you're interested in isn't something any man or woman should ever be ashamed of. His problem is that he's over investing in the opinion of these bad friends of his, and using that as a "lesson" that he should instead be inauthentic with future friends. I say be honest and authentic with your friends, or you're just going to have …
/r/seduction27/01/21 03:48 PM
1

Think it depends on the size of the campus. I did on my super large campus, and while some awkward situations came up from spamming the same type of approach in the same areas, I never felt like I risked a chance of getting kicked out or anything.
/r/seduction27/01/21 03:45 PM
1

Tbh, your female friends sound very close minded. Heck, maybe on of them is even into you and just jealous. Yes it is important to manage your perception amongst your friend group. I had a very large one in college, but kinda fucked it up by casually flirting with too many of them (mostly the asian ones), and they thought I had a fetish and ostracized me and my asian ex when we started dating. However, if someone didn't want to be my friend because I told her I was reading self help books and sa…
/r/seduction27/01/21 02:11 PM
0

Oh wow I thought his channel had gotten nuked, forgot about about him. I remember liking his videos, but definitely thinking his style was more based around get jacked and dress well then approach, than focusing on any on any of the technical aspects of game (which is a valid way to get success, just not something that can be learned, only earned through healthy lifestyle).
/r/seduction26/01/21 04:37 PM
1

That was my first thought too lol.
/r/seduction19/01/21 04:05 AM
16

I disagree. I view this as ego getting in the way of results. Flakes can happen for a million different reasons. I'd keep giving it a go. Worst case is waste two minutes sending texts.
/r/seduction15/01/21 11:43 PM
4

Probably the worst thing he did is not give a time constraint. Nothing creeps someone out more than being trapped in a convo. He could've easily just said, "I gotta get back to shopping in a minute, but I had to quickly say..." I kind of like his gamer girl assumption, it's playful, flirty, and observant. But obviously he didn't know how to stop pursuing that read when you told him he was wrong. Obviously different girls will respond differently, and maybe his assumption was a little too close t…
/r/seduction14/01/21 08:53 PM
1

Not
/r/seduction14/01/21 06:15 AM
3

Yeah, as a below average looking guy, cold approach was my only way to meet women. Apps never work for me. Due to Covid, I haven't so much as spoken to a woman not obligated to speak to me since literally March. I just can't meet women without cold approach. It's shifted the dating power 100% to the attractive guys who have nice online profiles.
/r/seduction10/01/21 10:47 PM
6

As a guy, I've found being authentic and vulnerable has helped me with women. Just don't take it to far as to where you're complacent & whiny, which is where those two things can lead if you let them spiral out of control.
/r/seduction09/01/21 05:38 PM
3

I do believe that in a relationship it's good to pamper and listen to your girlfriend a good amount. You just have to set firm lines in the sand as to how far you'll go with this, and make sure she is reciprocating. Don't treat a girl like a princess if she isn't treating you like a prince.
/r/seduction09/01/21 05:36 PM
3

Haven't been dating this whole time. I don't see the point when it's not safe to meet up.
/r/seduction08/01/21 10:50 PM
2

This inevitably happens to all pickup channels. He probably decided he can't make a living doing pickup anymore and decided to divest and get his videos that could harm his future employment opportunities off the internet. Or equally as likely, YouTube nuked it.
/r/seduction07/01/21 09:12 PM
0

Idk about a pickup trend, but I definitely think women will be way more receptive to guys who do pickup.
/r/seduction04/01/21 10:45 PM
1

Cold approach with high volume (though I haven't since March due to corona)
/r/seduction03/01/21 02:20 PM
1

I don't think this mindset is necessarily healthy. A harmless crush doesn't hurt. Just don't crush on only one girl, or you'll get oneitis. I personally don't mind a daydream or fantasy to fall asleep about a crush. Even motivates me somewhat.
/r/seduction03/01/21 05:04 AM
0

Options
/r/seduction03/01/21 01:39 AM
1

Different girls, different timetables. I think it's generally a good idea to go for a kiss on the first date, but don't get offended if she says no. If she agrees to go out with you again after a kiss doesn't work out, she'll probably be down to kiss that time or the next.
/r/seduction01/01/21 09:14 PM
1

It happens from time to time for me (as a guy, just platonic old friends randomly responding). I'm never weirded out by it and I'm usually just happy someone else out there wants to interact with me. It's a lot smoother than just a random dm, as it's prompted by a post
/r/seduction01/01/21 07:54 AM
1

I think replying to a story is the more smooth move, but I agree with the sentiment of the advice.
/r/seduction01/01/21 07:23 AM
1

Wouldn't really be a cold approach since you know her. Maybe reply to one of her Instagram stories. That's not really weird to do out of the blue, I think that's a normal thing to do.
/r/seduction01/01/21 07:22 AM
1

Well if it changes anything, most women I date I meet through daygame cold approach, and those girls tend to be more flakey (as they don't know you as well). I have a decently high opinion of myself, but I think I'm a bit of an acquired taste. I know that if she does show up, there's a good chance I'll win her over, I just don't want to do anything to jeopardize her showing up, because I want that chance.
/r/seduction28/12/20 03:36 AM
2

How many Chads do you know that end their post with "but I'm interested in hearing other perspectives"?
/r/seduction27/12/20 11:40 PM
-4

But that misses the point I'm trying to make. Sending such a confirmation text gives the girl an easy opportunity to just say no to something she already agreed to. There will be girls who wouldn't cancel unless you presented them a clear opportunity like a confirmation text.
/r/seduction27/12/20 07:48 PM
2

No, I haven't been dating since March due to Covid. A recent comment I read on this sub got me thinking about it.
/r/seduction27/12/20 07:46 PM
2

I'm not a texter or caller at all. I use it just for logistics (until maybe a few dates in when we are moving towards relationship territory). I think this keeps some of the intrigue in the air and makes sure you still have plenty of things to talk about on the date. But if you do casually text her, then yes you should check in to confirm the date.
/r/seduction27/12/20 07:36 PM
2

I don't understand what you're trying to say with this comment at all.
/r/seduction27/12/20 07:33 PM
3

Not really a cope, just a contingency plan. I think I've only been flaked on last minute like once. First dates? Idk like 7. Instant dates? Probably like 7-10. Dates total? Closer to 100.
/r/seduction27/12/20 07:31 PM
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But to me, I just see this as almost asking her to flake. Why bother with that when she already has made a commitment to you to show up? You're risking the date for merely the reward of not wasting 20 minutes of your life showing up (and you can just use that time to grab takeout food, or maybe cold approach a few more women). And sure you can just counter with if she doesn't respond she wasn't interested in the first place, but I'm not sure that's the case. All my dates I get through cold appro…
/r/seduction27/12/20 03:36 PM
-4

As for the first paragraph, I view it as part of abundance mentality. Knowing I have other options. If a girl I barely know flakes on me, so what, I'll turn that time into a chance to meet another. And if I do run into a situation where the girl just legitimately forgot about the date, I'd forgive her, reschedule, and try to confirm that time. N.v
/r/seduction27/12/20 03:28 PM
-7

For me, I don't see it as wasted time if she flakes. I'll just go on the date by myself or set aside that time period to cold approach other women. I know I am a high value man, but I also know that I'm a bit of an acquired taste. I'm not some super good looking & charismatic person girls will be head over heels with at first sight, so I prefer to just not send the confirmation test to play it safe. Sure if she responds back enthusiastically, then I'm in good, but it just also opens the door for…
/r/seduction27/12/20 03:25 PM
6

If I'm dating the person then yeah I'd be in communication everyday and bring it up. First-third dates though, I'm not much of a texter and I save the convo for the date, so the text would just be kinda out of the blue.
/r/seduction27/12/20 04:48 AM
5

Disagree. It at the very least marginally improves your chances. Not to mention that attracting a high quality partner isn't the only reason you should approach. Approaching teaches you confidence with women and reminds you that you have an abundance of options. Before I started doing cold approach, I would literally physically shake when talking to women. Now I can confidently walk up to a girl, and have a good conversation with eye contact. That skillset is priceless and I owe it to cold appro…
/r/seduction27/12/20 04:05 AM
2

Your guess is as good as mine. At least like 3 days I'd say.
/r/seduction27/12/20 12:16 AM
2

Personally, I think looking for signs like this a major waste of time and you're being delusional by thinking you pinpoint a stranger's interest in you based on a glance or two. If I was waiting to see IOIs to approach, I'd have approached maybe 5 women my whole life. If you just see a girl you want to approach, approach her. Simple as that. Don't get caught up in this bs psychological analysis.
/r/seduction26/12/20 04:28 PM
2

My opinion on flaky girls is to just cut communication for a while then try again. Why try again when they were wasting your time? Because sending a quick text doesn't really cost you anything. When I get flaked on, I don't just set back and feel sorry for myself. I use that time to go cold approach more women.
/r/seduction26/12/20 04:23 PM
2

She's wrong. Grocery stores are good, but college campuses are the best place.
/r/seduction21/12/20 02:34 PM
3

2 for 7 with numbers is just fine.
/r/seduction15/12/20 06:12 PM
1

You'll find out how much tomorrow night *wink
/r/seduction14/12/20 04:53 PM
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