For background I'm a 20 year old dude, In college. I'm a bit short (5'9) and a little above average looking I'd say (post history has amiugly post). I'm not that great with girls honestly. I'm not terrible, if I can get close with them I might be kind of good actually, but whatever.

It blows my mind, and kind of pisses me off. That I spend all this time on reddit, probably at least an hour a day. Going over ways to improve myself, or learn things to help me with chicks. It's not all for girls, mind you. In the last couple months I've started running no less than 4-5 days/week. I've quit smoking weed everyday. I've taken my personal hygiene up a level. And still, very small increase in interest from girls, if anything.

And then, I see or I even know guys, that seem to come off as effortless. I mean sure they're good looking, they're taller, more stacked, and dressed better than me. Some of them are rich, some of them aren't. But it's like girls are just flocking to them, meanwhile the only girl I have constant daily contact with these days is one of my close friends.

I'm sick of how my life has been going in many ways. It's not just the lack of women in my life right now. I quit smoking weed for a reason. I want my life to get turned around and get back on the right track. But I also want to be good with girls. I know I can be.

So basically what I'm asking is Does It work? This, the seduction principles. Leave out the "Beta/Alpha" , "negging" , etc, etc. I believe many people here have useful tips, but some theories or tactics I've seen here are just not fact based or just won't work, I've heard girls tear them down. But like I've started reading Mark Manson's blog, I'm thinking about buying Models when I get paid again.

Is there hope?