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i still stand by my original conclusion which is: tinder is severely useless for the average male with average looks. there are people that talk a lot about results that they receive from tinder. what do these guys have in common? most are good looking ENOUGH to get interest from a decent amount of girls on tinder. if you are average looking and not white, you will struggle when it comes to getting matches on tinder. it is a simple fact. i have experimented with different photos, styles, angles,…
/r/seduction05/12/17 05:41 AM
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wrong. very common misconception that most PUA guys have. let me give you an analogy. let's say one day you go into a texas hold em tournament and you win big as fuck. next day you go back to play again and you do absolutely awful. you lose like 20-30 hands in a row and lose 90% of your bankroll. in this scenario does the poker player look internally and say the problem is HIM and his play style? incorrect. pro poker players play optimally and make the right decisions given the information that …
/r/seduction02/11/17 08:45 PM
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Eh. What I was getting at is that sure it’s a numbers game, but it doesn’t have to be a hugely unfavorable numbers game. The point is: change your circumstances Guys who fuck up immediately try to change their approach, which is correct to do if you’re new and haven’t seen much success. If you’ve been in this for years and KNOW that what you’re doing is capable of pulling and fucking women, you start to realize that the circumstances are really holding you back in terms of results It’s not just …
/r/seduction02/11/17 04:46 PM
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the girl was shit anyway. if she broke it off cause you didn't cook her a meal things wouldn't have lasted long. so it's better to not get involved in that shit from the start
/r/seduction31/10/17 11:00 PM
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You should have cooked for her and let her eat it, then you may have smashed. However, this whole situation is risky. Next time don’t suggest cooking, just go out to eat, buy her a meal to quiet her down, then pull her and fuck her
/r/seduction31/10/17 09:56 PM

What I do is associated with the dark arts and I don’t feel comfortable sharing that here
/r/seduction31/10/17 04:57 PM
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incorrect again. you ever play poker? it's the same thing. one day you could be winning hot, left and right getting good hands and everything seems to just be working for you. next day you could be doing the same exact technique, but it's just not working. relating this to pick up. some days you can in fact literally go through 20 blow outs in a row, it happens. other days you can talk to 3 girls and pull/fuck one. again, too circumstance dependent. how do you achieve consistency? you change the…
/r/seduction30/10/17 10:03 AM
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The point is that it’s too circumstance dependent. I’ve approached several 8s, 9s, etc and have had good interactions with them one day and then bad interactions with them on another. Also, there is no “good” ratio. You shouldn’t expect 1 lay after 10 approaches. Nor should you expect 1 out of 100. It’ll take as many approaches as it needs to take
/r/seduction30/10/17 09:26 AM
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why 1 out of 10 girls though, why not 1 out of 15, or 1 out of 20. you've failed to answer that question
/r/seduction30/10/17 08:19 AM
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why would i reveal that on a subreddit with over 200k+ readers? i dont want this shit to be ruined like shitty tinder. influx of thirsty chodes populating the app and ruining it for everyone
/r/seduction30/10/17 02:47 AM
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and how exactly did you come up with this 1 potential close per 10 girls number? i would love to see where you have verified that information
/r/seduction30/10/17 02:04 AM
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it's too circumstance dependent. i've seen countless instances where i'd go out one night, do less sets, get better interactions/results and another night i'd do more sets and get medicore reactions and no results. same exact approach, vibe mostly similar, same conversational sequence. in short, the outcome is for the most part out of your control. it's too dependent on circumstance. if there was a way to capture all the dtf girls in put them in a bar, and then you were to approach girls in that…
/r/seduction30/10/17 12:54 AM

tinder is absolutely worthless. 20% of the men on tinder are getting laid from it. the other 80% are getting no vagina whatsoever. there are only a select few that can use tinder as their main source of pussy. these are dudes that obviously look good. the reason tinder is shit is because it's too saturated. too many chodey guys everywhere. every single fucking chode is on tinder, it's free to sign up and takes 2 seconds to make a profile. this causes all the chicks on the app to be spammed to de…
/r/seduction30/10/17 12:50 AM

typical approach is i walk up and say "2 seconds, i saw you and i had to say hi, what's up". some girls brush me off, some say hi and then start walking away, others hook and i get into a short convo with them. i then start talking about whatever. whether it be their costume (it's halloween) what bar they were coming from, are they enjoying the night, etc. then i'd start getting logistics and trying to seed a pull "let's get drinks right now". if they say no i would stay in unless they tell me t…
/r/seduction30/10/17 12:44 AM
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most of the time numbers that you get at night don't mean anything/are too unreliable. i would try to close that night or get a number under the premise of you're going to hit her up later in the night to hang out
/r/seduction29/10/17 06:43 PM
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it's extremely beta of you to feel this way. you should not let a girl know you feel like this or the chances of you getting her will drastically decline
/r/seduction21/10/17 05:04 PM
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age. as you grow older, you learn to fuck better
/r/seduction12/10/17 07:53 PM
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willing to bet she's under 21. probably like 19-20, maybe even 18. if she is this young then i wouldn't worry about it, young girls like this do illogical things/play games with guys all the time
/r/seduction12/10/17 11:42 AM
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8 dates a week is possible, but you need to be hitting some serious volume to make that happen. i've had 3-4 dates a week before, two of them being back to back
/r/seduction12/10/17 09:54 AM
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hot girls get attention 24/7. and there's very few hot girls to go around. supply is low, demand is high. it's like 100 guys fighting for the 1 water merchant in the sahara desert. there's just too much demand, so they can be as picky as they want
/r/seduction11/10/17 11:42 PM
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it's awful. i use to get lays on it a few years ago. now ever since i started improving at cold approach i never went back to online. it's just really shitty, swiping tons of hot girls that you're never gonna match with anyway, getting matched with mediocre looking girls that you would never approach in real life, having to send messages and weed through the flakes just for a date, very lame. cold approach is a lot more fun, rewarding, and allows you to go after the hot girls that you want
/r/seduction11/10/17 11:11 AM
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every guy wants to get laid. what makes YOU different
/r/seduction11/10/17 10:53 AM
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so what are your results exactly with this approach compared to just texting girls normally? have you actually tracked and logged your results? until you've tracked your results and have raw data that supports the idea that sending "value-giving" and flirtatious texts leads to more lays you shouldn't be preaching that advice. the advice that I've given is very fundamanetal and basic. essentially expressing the most basic points that are needed when it comes to texting: finding out logistics, kee…
/r/seduction10/10/17 06:40 PM
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you're just feeling like shit at the moment. I suggest you stop reading pick up material for a few days/week and then come back to it. once you've been in this for years you're so hardened by all the bullshit and already have a solid amount of lays/experience under your belt that you just stop giving a fuck. good luck
/r/seduction10/10/17 02:58 PM
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when did I say don't go work out? never said that, in fact I go to the gym regularly and look pretty fit. do you truly believe girls like video game playing nerds that look like twigs and eat doritos all day? you'd be surprised. the basics when it comes to getting laid are hyegine, hyegine, and hyegine. some girls would have no problem dating a twig that plays computer games all day and shoves his face with Cheetos and mountain dew. think geeky/nerdy girls that are into gaming as well. the geeky…
/r/seduction10/10/17 02:53 PM
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tell her to fuck off then proceed to get more girls
/r/seduction10/10/17 02:10 PM
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someone who doesn't judge and is generally positive. someone who isn't hard headed and is flexible. someone who has a basic level of social acuity. someone who works with you when out and doesn't disregard or work against you note: a good wing doesn't even have to open a lot. just by being in the venue or on the street with you they are good support and boost morale
/r/seduction10/10/17 02:09 PM
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a hard rejection is a good way to instantly get you out of your head
/r/seduction10/10/17 02:05 PM
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This is made taking volume into account. It takes ~10 messages to get a date, there's not much "fucking around" in it. it takes however many messages it takes to get a date. there is no set number, it can take 3 messages, it can take 15 From my experience, girls text 5+ guys at once. You need to stand out. Most of them ask the boring shit, I try to make things fun and flirtatious from the get go. Not crazy flirtatious, just like 10% more than the average guy. Some texts will be value taking, lik…
/r/seduction10/10/17 01:04 PM
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some good information in here, some not so good information, and some mediocre information. the not so good info comes across as gamey and tryhard. every text you send does not need to have a flirtatious vibe or be value-giving. also, you can text questions if you want. i agree with some points here such as text to set plans, avoid sexting, schedule it the closest day possible (ask for her schedule first and then select the closest available day). all good information there the mediocre info wou…
/r/seduction10/10/17 11:19 AM
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plausible deniability. don't straight up tell chicks you wanna fuck, that makes them feel slutty. keep it open ended, don't disqualify yourself by saying friends though
/r/seduction10/10/17 09:33 AM
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most of the pua gurus on youtube and the internet are shit. the best experience is what you learn in the field. these gurus are horse shit. they're just trying to make money feeding people bullshit. when they realize it's not that easy they'll go back to their 9-5 jobs and retire their dreams of making a living by teaching people their uber secrets on how to fuck tons of super hot women
/r/seduction10/10/17 04:13 AM
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it means they wanna fuck you
/r/seduction10/10/17 02:59 AM
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getting laid on your own terms is something that most guys will not be able to do. so you are in the majority
/r/seduction10/10/17 02:58 AM
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This isn't practical. in a nightclub there is too much commotion and activity for these tips to be applied. girls are there to do their own thing, whatever that may be. generally, girls don't approach at nightclubs, they don't need to. a more practical strategy is to approach x number of sets each night. and in each set attempting to reach the next level of escalation. i.e: 1st: approach, 2nd: hook point, 3rd: logistics, 4th: isolation, 5th: escalation, 6th: pull. be aware of these points, and u…
/r/seduction10/10/17 02:49 AM
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so many fucking dating products and dating gurus holy shit lol. seems like everyone is trying to milk money
/r/seduction10/10/17 01:27 AM
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it's hard to draw conclusions without knowing how many girls the very fit guy actually smashed. just because he received higher votes doesn't mean that he actually smashed the girls. there's a lot of societal pressures involved (not seeming easy, not wanting to be judged by friends, etc). most girls would rather preserve their status in a social group over fucking a hot guy. if somehow fucking the muscular guy negatively affected her status among her peers and group, most girls wouldn't do it. i…
/r/seduction10/10/17 01:16 AM
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you're a total fool
/r/seduction08/10/17 03:51 PM
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you're an idiot
/r/seduction08/10/17 01:57 PM
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What’s wrong with you
/r/seduction08/10/17 01:37 PM
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Is this a joke?
/r/seduction07/10/17 06:19 PM
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if most of the girls you're openning are giving you a bad reaction you're probably giving off bad vibes. watch this: https://youtu.be/fgsvMwqRaUo?t=1545 yes there are sometimes bad days, but more often then not most of your sets should not be girls acting cunty to you
/r/seduction06/10/17 05:56 PM
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this post is meant to define each level of pick up. an advanced dude goes out A LOT. to the point that going out and hitting on women consumes their entire day. being advanced has it'=s downsides, not everyone should seek out to become advanced. most would be happy getting laid a few times a month with a new girl or having 1-2 fuck buddies to consistently have sex with. both do not require massive amount of volume and going out. advanced is more for those seeking to bang as much women as possibl…
/r/seduction06/10/17 05:49 PM
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forget about /r/seduction bro, pick up is all fake and girls don't like to be approached. no need to keep replying back to this stuff, just put it all behind you and move on now that you know the truth
/r/seduction06/10/17 11:35 AM
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you're a lost cause dude. just forget about pick up. don't come back here. be a chode and masturbate for the rest of your life
/r/seduction05/10/17 08:39 PM
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okay, let's pretend for a moment that a majority of women out there do not like being approached by men. they would rather just be left alone, they don't want anything to do with these men walking up to them during the day or at a nightclub/bar/park/wherever. so, I hope you know that there are only 3 ways to meet and fuck women: cold approach, online, and social circle. since according to you a majority of women don't like to be approached that knocks out cold approach. so you've got online and …
/r/seduction05/10/17 03:37 PM
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again, you're focusing on the negatives. it sounds like you don't even want to get laid. sounds like you just want a reason to give up and quit. if you want to quit then just quit, forget about pick up, it doesn't work anyway right. don't worry, you'll be back
/r/seduction05/10/17 03:21 PM
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I personally have fucked a few girls from street cold approach and I know of several wings who have as well. they've sent me pictures of them in bed with these naked chicks as well as text logs leading up to the lay. there were even times when I was winging with them and saw them open a chick who they later ended up fucking, of course they would show me pics as proof, as do I sometimes send lay pics to my wings. cold approach works, get over it
/r/seduction05/10/17 03:20 PM
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being cold approached by guys on the street is generally just a bother for them, since she's already getting her sexual needs met. stop right there, you're already finished. and that is exactly why you probably are getting 0 results doing pick up. you make too many negative assumptions. assumptions like this will definitely affect your actions and behavior when you interact with women. a social interaction is very emotional. a woman will be able to detect your jaded perspective. Just know that y…
/r/seduction05/10/17 03:18 PM
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I don't know what the general consensus is. what does it matter? how about you look at the data and create your own consensus. I already gave you my consensus. everyone has a different opinion. pick up is an art form, there is no "right" answer. you are dealing with other human beings
/r/seduction05/10/17 03:14 PM
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what's your point? women or anyone may not be receptive to being approached during the day or in a night club. I don't understand what conclusion are you trying to draw
/r/seduction05/10/17 03:12 PM
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and why do you say that women don't like to be approached? in my experience I've encountered some chicks who loved that I approached them. some chicks are naturally friendly and like to talk to people, yet you're saying women do not like to be approached? this is strange
/r/seduction05/10/17 02:15 PM
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no, you will not be able to pick her up. I think you already know the answer to these questions. do you want others to blatantly say "yes, if a hot girl was walking by and she isn't in the mood to talk to a guy, you will not be able to pick her up". this is obvious, PUAs that are telling you that you can have higher than a 1/10 success rate are bullshitting you and trying to market. this is why it's important to go out and gain your own references. learn from your own experiences and mistakes. l…
/r/seduction05/10/17 02:12 PM
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yes at any given moment on the street or in a club there are a certain amount of girls that are receptive to the idea of going home with a guy and fucking him. there are also a few that are on the fence about it and would do it if the circumstances were perfect/just right. there is a lot of analyzing that can be done here. the question is, what do you consider a reasonable success rate? are you expecting to fuck 1 out of 10 girls you approach during the day? not likely. it's a process that invol…
/r/seduction05/10/17 10:01 AM
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the way i understand it is you go out with your girlfriend at a club or bar. she will be the one approaching the girls. once she's in a set and has hooked a chick let her work her magic. tell her to try for a make out at one point, she does and is able to get a make out. at that point things are getting sexual, that's when she brings you in. you come in and say this is your girl. then you can start making out with either of them and simply pulling from there "hey let's get out of here and drink …
/r/seduction05/10/17 09:53 AM
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i've never actually fucked a girl from my college. it's probably cause i never really approached in mass volume or had social circle opportunities to do it. if i were you i'd focus on making more friends. perhaps you can start practicing some daygame in an area where you will remain anonymous. since you're so young you probably won't have access to the 21 and 22+ girls, try to fuck other college freshmen/sophomores. keep your age discrete
/r/seduction05/10/17 09:47 AM
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catcalling is absolutely chodey. that's basically when guys yell out at girls as they're walking down the street or past them. how about actually walking up to the chick, presenting yourself in a masculine and established manner, and having a solid interaction? that would actually lead to a result
/r/seduction05/10/17 09:43 AM
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don't text her again, forget about her
/r/seduction05/10/17 09:41 AM
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dating young college girls is a pain anyway, most are immature because they are too young. i recommend going after girls 24 and up
/r/seduction05/10/17 09:40 AM
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of course, there are definitely girls that are receptive to fucking a guy that approached them on the street. it's been proven time and time again. getting a result like this is not ALL luck. there is definitely luck that plays a factor, but any newbie that gets lucky and finds one of these girls will not automatically be able to fuck her. there's a lot that goes in between the approach and actual sex. the pua needs to approach, have a solid interaction and get the number under the premise of me…
/r/seduction05/10/17 09:37 AM
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maybe suggest studying at one of your places. i remember in high school i asked a girl in my class (who i already knew a bit) if she wanted to help me with my project. we decided to work on it at her place. we were home alone and i ultimately got to the point of sucking and playing with her boobs and then dry humping her. i think i was like 15-16 at the time, first pair of DD boobs i've sucked
/r/seduction03/10/17 11:13 AM
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ehh, i mean if you want to fuck an escort go ahead. ultimately you will either a) run out of my money and be forced to fuck girls naturally or b) decide that paying to fuck girls isn't as satisfying anymore and willingly come back to cold approach even though you have money to fuck hookers
/r/seduction03/10/17 11:09 AM
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not sure i'm understanding the question. you don't have to approach staff at a coffee shop. how about approaching girls that are sitting by themselves in the coffee shop? or girls on the street outside the coffee shop?
/r/seduction03/10/17 11:07 AM
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it seems that the initial vibe was very friendly and acquaintance-like. I think you should just forget about this one and do some cold approach
/r/seduction02/10/17 03:54 PM
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Do not do this. That’s too strong and forward. You need to let her come to you. It’s easier for girls to get laid from a dude in a friend group because the women are the selecters in this scenario. Your job is to take and fuck whatever comes your way from this friend group. If you were to actively pursue one of these girls and the thought of dating you never entered her mind the result is unpredictable. And thus your status and rep within this group will change unpredictably. If you’re feeling l…
/r/seduction02/10/17 03:27 PM
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You don’t. Generally the way these activities work is social circles of friend groups first develop. Once that’s established and a clique has formed or is in development then people will start talking, more specifically the girls in the clique will start talking. That’s when you would be evaluated as a sexual partner by the females of the clique (if they even happen to evaluate you, sometimes this topic may not even come up). Once that’s happened you generally will know because certain girls in …
/r/seduction02/10/17 03:23 PM
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Most mainstream dating sites are terrible for average guys. The sites and apps are free, nothing is stopping guys from flooding these apps by the thousands and spamming every single female with the intent of fucking her. This is why you should not be doing online. If you were to do any online I recommend dating sites in which it’s required to pay to join, weeds out the over saturation of dudes that want pussy. At the end of the day though, cold approach is king
/r/seduction02/10/17 03:15 PM
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No, it’s done. Get more girls
/r/seduction02/10/17 03:11 PM
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Do you have her phone number? Start texting her and suggest hanging out. Ideally you want to do pick up on girls that you don’t see often/daily, that way if they say no you don’t have to run into them still
/r/seduction02/10/17 03:08 PM
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it's because you're a chode in scarcity. if you were really fucking girls, you wouldn't care if you were being ignored through text by these girls. if you were really a guy of value and had shit going on in his life, you won't spend time wondering about these girls. the way you fix this is by obtaining more options. stop being a chode and throwing yourself 100% on every single girl that gives you attention
/r/seduction01/10/17 06:11 PM
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number of reasons. first is that in nightclubs the competition is too high. you're not the only guy in the club trying to fuck these girls. that's such an obvious fact but people forget it sometimes. for example, i know of 6-8 guys that went out last night to the same dive bar with the intent of fucking girls. i guarantee that there are additional guys at that same venue that went out with the intent of fucking girls. suddenly you have 10,20,30 guys all in the same dive bar that are there mainly…
/r/seduction01/10/17 06:07 PM
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It’s a way to track your results. For example when I started years ago I was only fucking like 2 girls a year. A few months ago I was fucking once a month and just recently I’ve been fucking once a week (got laid yesterday) Tracking lays per year just let’s you know your progression
/r/seduction29/09/17 03:56 PM
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seems like you're in a pretty bustling area to be able to go out 5-7 nights a week and still find girls. i recommend daygaming 5 days a week. personally i'd reserve one night a week, friday or saturday, for nightgame but that's just me. i prefer day
/r/seduction27/09/17 03:23 AM
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go out 5 days a week consistently. dedicate 2 hours of your time each day picking up chicks, this included transportation time, etc
/r/seduction27/09/17 03:16 AM
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most dark little shits are naturally negative people
/r/seduction27/09/17 03:14 AM
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Okay, be prepared if she flakes. If she doesn’t then you may end up closing
/r/seduction27/09/17 12:12 AM
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What is the context? Was there sexual tension when you invited her? Does she see this as a friendly play date in which you both will be doing an activity and not touching each other? Assuming that there was sexual tension then it’s fairly simple. Pour some drinks, put on a movie or some YouTube videos, cuddle closely with her on the bed, 15 mins in proceed to escalate and have sex
/r/seduction27/09/17 12:04 AM
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you're retarded
/r/seduction26/09/17 02:17 AM
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bring it up first if you haven't. if he continues to be a dickwad and doesn't acknowledge his wrongdoings then get a new wing. if he genuinely responds in a way that shows he cares then let him know he's being a dickwad when you catch him being a dickwad during the night. if he continues to be a dickwad despite all this then get a new wing
/r/seduction26/09/17 01:59 AM
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this is the correct answer OP, do it.
/r/seduction26/09/17 01:55 AM
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don't ask about the boyfriend. pretend like he doesn't exist. just talk to the girl and then ask her out, if she mentions a bf then leave
/r/seduction26/09/17 01:52 AM
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there is no good opener. a simple "hi. how are you?" would have literally been good enough. after she answers you can then get a conversation going about whatever
/r/seduction26/09/17 01:51 AM
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The issue with opening in these types of loud and chaotic environments is that your looks play more of a role in your result. Whereas if you’re able to talk with the girl you can convey your personality, humor, etc. Also it makes it easier to get logistics and keep her attention because there is not as much activity going on. When you’re dancing in a loud club there is a lot of commotion and noise. You could lose the girl’s attention instantly due to a lot of circumstances that you cannot contro…
/r/seduction22/09/17 04:36 PM
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To be honest I have very little experience with dance floor game. I have fucked girls from dance floors before but a majority of my sets are on the street. The issue with clubs is that they’re blaringly loud that you have to yell in order to communicate anything with a girl
/r/seduction22/09/17 04:25 PM
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you need to seek mental help from a professional
/r/seduction22/09/17 11:22 AM
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yeah, within a few minutes they're kissing, not fucking. dance floor game is no different from opening a girl off the dance floor. in fact on the dance floor you're even less likely to pull because it's too chaotic
/r/seduction22/09/17 11:20 AM
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this is what i tried to do at college parties. it's a mistake though. stop trying to grind with girls. are you looking to fuck or are you looking to just dry hump a girl. find girls that are off the dance floor and simply start talking to them. show a little sexual intent and then attempt to pull. once you have her to your dorm room you can fuck her
/r/seduction22/09/17 11:18 AM
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not really? wanting to improve so you can fuck hot girls is pretty standard. it shouldn't be your ONLY drive though. think of it as fifty fifty, half is you want to fuck hot girls, the other half you're doing for yourself
/r/seduction22/09/17 11:16 AM
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i never had a college girl friend. but i've fucked a good amount of girls during college. in fact, i've only ever had 1 legitimate girlfriend, and that was in high school and only lasted a month. does it matter? it's all perspective. personally, i don't care much. i feel that you are over hyping these "benefits" in a relationship. a relationship isn't what you think it is, that can be said for anything. you have to actually experience it to get the full idea. that being said, focus on what makes…
/r/seduction22/09/17 03:43 AM
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what makes you think that she wants to be escalated on just because she talked about friends with benefits and attraction at first sight. this is irrelevant information. the proper thing to do is ask her out for drinks and then try to fuck her at that point. i think you should've hinted at getting drinks with her while you were in the car
/r/seduction22/09/17 03:39 AM
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Awesome, sounds like a good reference experience
/r/seduction21/09/17 12:32 PM
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epic, how was this facilitated?
/r/seduction21/09/17 11:39 AM
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one hand on ass, the other on waist i made out with a girl in an alley outside the bar last thursday doing this, good times
/r/seduction21/09/17 09:57 AM
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restart the conversation and ask her out
/r/seduction21/09/17 09:53 AM
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most guys prefer to approach the girl instead of the other way around. when someone approaches you, you don't feel inclined to move things forward and progress the interaction, the burden is on the approacher. if you were to start approaching guys then that burden to move things forward would be you. this is not how social dynamics usually works in dating. if you get asked out a lot then it seems that you have some options to get to know guys
/r/seduction21/09/17 09:31 AM
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don't ask. just talk to her and suggest meeting up for drinks. pretend like the boyfriend does not exist. it's only when she brings it up that you should address it
/r/seduction20/09/17 04:44 AM
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generally if you want a relationship it's better if you don't try to fuck her on the first date, unless she's giving you signs that she's down to fuck. with that being said, how did the date go and how did it end? you will know very easily whether you're going to get a second date or not, based on her responsiveness through text after the date
/r/seduction20/09/17 04:42 AM
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the best coaching i can give to a female is to dress sexy/attractive and go out to a park, bar, or nightclub. basically put yourself in environments in which guys can approach you. you can make yourself more approachable by not seeming busy and idling in whatever area that you are in
/r/seduction20/09/17 04:34 AM
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don't compare your results to others. everyone is different, don't look at what girls he's fucking, focus on yourself
/r/seduction09/09/17 03:15 PM
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Get more friends, get some success under your belt then you won't care. If you were fucking a few chicks yourself you wouldn't give a shit
/r/seduction09/09/17 02:40 PM
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Did you try to pull the sorority girl into your Uber? Or convince her to come with? That's what I would have done
/r/seduction09/09/17 02:35 PM
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Going out alone during the day is easy for me. I feel that I perform so much better solo daygame. It's going out alone at night that I need practice with. Issue is that most girls are in pairs or more, you will rarely find a girl out alone going to the clubs. This means you have to get use to approaching 2+ girls, sort of gaming them both and eventually isolating one in order to have sex. In rare situations the girl may just let you talk to her friend without cockblocking. I agree though that tr…
/r/seduction09/09/17 02:31 PM
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How do you know your friend fucked that girl the same night? There's no verifiable proof, nowadays when me or wings post FRs that result in us fucking the girl we post an in field lay footage with it, basically showing the chick naked post sex to confirm that we indeed did fuck. If your friends don't have lay pictures then what does it matter? Also, I wouldn't compare my results to your friends. Focus on yourself and your growth. Stop looking at other people. Once you block out the success of ot…
/r/seduction05/09/17 03:34 PM
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What happens when you try to turn one of the girls you've fucked into a girlfriend?
/r/seduction05/09/17 03:28 PM
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I'm surprised how such raped advice can be the most upvoted. Imagine a chick reading that advice, she'd freak out. If the pick up advice being given causes normal chicks to freak out that usually means it's bad advice
/r/seduction05/09/17 03:25 PM
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don't immediately go for the number, try to pull that night, if you can't then get the number. don't just dance with girls and make out with them, you need to actually talk to the girls on some level. try to isolate them to a quieter area of the bar and talk to them, or open girls off the dancefloor in an area where you can talk
/r/seduction05/09/17 11:04 AM
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what do you look like. do you look like a typical indian chode? or do you look like a well styled and professional indian dude
/r/seduction05/09/17 10:35 AM
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usually this means that she wants to fuck you, in my experience
/r/seduction05/09/17 10:29 AM
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approach, seed dates, get phone numbers, don't be butthurt
/r/seduction05/09/17 01:46 AM
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if you're sure that you'll never see the girls again if you happen to get rejected then sure approach there. if on the other hand there's a chance that you'll see girls over and over again and they start to recognize you and talk amongst friends and spread gossip about you then no don't approach there
/r/seduction05/09/17 01:43 AM
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you're too invested. why are you too invested? because pussy isn't abundant for you. right now this is the only girl that you have in the works, so you feel that it must work. if you had more girls in the works, you wouldn't give a fuck. that's the real issue, and that's the issue you should be addressing
/r/seduction04/09/17 10:37 PM
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situation seems convoluted as fuck. my advice is to ask when she's usually available and then plan a date. if she doesn't give you concrete days that she's free then move on, it's that simple
/r/seduction04/09/17 10:35 PM
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this advice sounds rapey. i think it's better to focus on action and not the fundamentals of what's happening unless you truly know what you're talking about. in any LMR situation the formula is simple: escalate, back off, don't escalate for a handful of minutes, repeat. ideally re escalate in a different way. any other advice and i start to question how much validity said advice has
/r/seduction04/09/17 10:32 PM
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i like to use the music/movie excuse. i'm on the date with her and we're vibing, drinking, chatting. 45 minutes into it i usually start seeding the pull. "you've got to hear some of the music at my place, after this let's head over?" simple as that. you basically want to take any excuse to get her back to your place and tell her that. then wait to see how she reacts. if she's all for coming to your place and doesn't hesitate then congrats you're gonna be able to pull. if she doesn't say anything…
/r/seduction04/09/17 08:51 PM
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actually this is incorrect, humor is attractive. if you're talking to a girl and making her laugh that's good because you're building rapport. rapport equals comfort and comfort is one of the elements that is needed to fuck a girl
/r/seduction03/09/17 03:26 PM
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you will naturally get better as you get more experience. continue pulling girls and getting in bed with them. eventually you'll feel comfortable enough to be at ease and enjoy fucking
/r/seduction03/09/17 03:23 PM
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ask her out
/r/seduction03/09/17 03:21 PM
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abundance. have shit going on in your life that this shouldn't phase you. this girl is not thinking about a date with you over the weekend. therefore, you shouldn't be thinking about it either, do other fun shit
/r/seduction03/09/17 03:20 PM
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age matters yes, 2 years ago girls that were in their late 20s, early 30s wouldn't consider fucking me because i was too young. now when i approach girls in their 30s they hook and we vibe. i tell them my age (22) and they get self-concious and say they're way too old. in which i reply that it's okay i like older women. after that they become comfortable because they know that i'm aware of their age and would still fuck. from their pov they would fuck me but they're unsure if i would fuck them b…
/r/seduction03/09/17 02:33 PM
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in terms of results the lay rate from tinder is probably similar to cold approach but a bit less. the point is that if you have a lay rate of 0.2% on tinder and 0.5% on cold approach what difference does it make? these are literally what the percentages linger around if you're interested in fucking girls casually. this isn't stated to demotivate guys from trying, of course they can still approach and will fuck girls from time to time, they should just know what to expect in terms of results.
/r/seduction03/09/17 12:41 AM
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Move on, usually when girls throw excuse after excuse without any alternative like that they're just bullshitting you. Next time I wouldn't invite her out as your first opening message, text your name right after you get her number so she has it and then a half hour later just vibe with her for 1-2 messages
/r/seduction30/08/17 12:27 PM
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stop using snapchat. get her phone number and set up a day 2
/r/seduction30/08/17 08:22 AM
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are you fucking the girls day 1? if you want to have a LTR then it helps to not try and fuck the girls right away
/r/seduction30/08/17 08:21 AM
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why are they giving you looks that communicate stay the fuck away? if you're a normal guy they shouldn't be doing that
/r/seduction30/08/17 01:08 AM
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how old was she, i'm willing to bet she was 20 or younger, probably 18. date older girls
/r/seduction24/08/17 09:38 AM
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cold approach
/r/seduction24/08/17 09:34 AM
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why ig closes and snapchat? get the number
/r/seduction23/08/17 02:18 AM
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did you seed any dates or go for any numbers?
/r/seduction23/08/17 01:41 AM
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1) it depends. headphones are commonly associated with people not wanting to be bothered. you can still approach these girls, just don't be surprised if they don't give you attention and walk off. the way you approach is the same as any other set, walk with and say hi, then say your opener 2) eye contact is never necessary before you approach. if you see a girl you like, go for her. if she's on the phone then it varies, same with the headphones scenario. you can still approach but again don't be…
/r/seduction07/08/17 01:16 PM
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you need to start approaching consistently, maybe look for wings to support you
/r/seduction07/08/17 01:04 PM
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uber. if you drove there then bring her to your car. leave her car behind, if its in free parking it won't matter. drop her back there in the morning
/r/seduction06/08/17 01:51 PM
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and that is exactly why you are being flaked on. you're basically setting yourself up to fail. you're playing to fail right now
/r/seduction06/08/17 01:40 PM
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women who stick their tits out for random strangers are great, that means they're sex positive and like to fuck i don't like clubs as well but for a different reason, too many distractions and managing friends, etc. i recommend you approach girls during the day
/r/seduction05/08/17 05:40 PM
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there is a way to optimally do things. you learn this through experience and trial and error. read information on here but then test it and tweak it. if it doesn't work then try a different way of going for what you want. for example, you said you invited a girl out 2 times and she flaked each time. this is a very common problem i see that guys are doing and it's sad to see how much their results are going to shit just because they don't know how to set up dates. firstly, you need to request the…
/r/seduction05/08/17 05:29 PM
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that could be right. i have very little experience doing that, most of my pulls are from day 2s
/r/seduction05/08/17 05:13 PM
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those places i tend to avoid for exactly that. it's not likely that people are pulling in an environment like that
/r/seduction05/08/17 04:18 AM
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these coaches may be good at picking up girls but they are not good at teaching. teaching in itself is a skill that must be worked on, the same as picking up girls not sure how good luke is but doesnt sound like his teaching is any good. to be fair coaching someone on how to pick up girls can definitely become a pain in the ass especially if the person is stubborn
/r/seduction04/08/17 02:46 PM
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i wouldn't be too focused on trying to grind with chicks. in order to pull and fuck you need to have some level of conversation with the girl
/r/seduction04/08/17 02:25 PM
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if you seriously want advice on how to progress this you need to listen
/r/seduction04/08/17 02:23 PM
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she's fucking around with you. she's probably a young girl, 18-20 age. these types of girls for the most part are still figuring out what they want. make the invite and then move on
/r/seduction04/08/17 02:22 PM
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that could work, needs to be tested
/r/seduction04/08/17 02:43 AM
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not much, when i pull i have a routine: bring them in, chat a bit. unplug my laptop and bring it to the bed, get them on the bed. put on some movie trailers or random youtube videos, start cuddling with them on the bed by getting in close, arm around her, go for the kiss after 10-15 mins, make out. at this point the girls that are down get the picture, we stop making out and they take the laptop off the bed we start making out again and undressing the main area this process fucks up is when goin…
/r/seduction03/08/17 06:40 PM
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in terms of escalating once pulled it's simple, the issues arise when you start receiving resistance. that's when you throw in the tactics to see if you can make the most of things
/r/seduction03/08/17 02:39 PM
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don't mention that you've seen her every saturday, that can come off as creepy. you don't need a witty opener, you just need to open and start talking already
/r/seduction03/08/17 01:55 PM
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that only happens when you're approaching the first girl of the day. after you've approached 2 or 3 more girls for the day you literally stop giving a shit and get into a flow state of approaching
/r/seduction03/08/17 01:52 PM
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game and strategy is the most optimal. if you have to call a girl out on something that is generally not good. things should just flow if she is receptive. don't give ultimatums, give her opportunities to improve herself and show you she gives a shit
/r/seduction03/08/17 03:49 AM
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i stopped using online. i believe cold approach is far more superior if you can do it correctly. you're can generate leads at your own pace rather than simply wait for them online
/r/seduction03/08/17 03:44 AM
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i actually can't help with that department. i have no experience with relationships. most of my advice is geared toward fucking girls. i would think that if you're looking for a relationship hold off on the sex then. you need to behave more like a provider in order for her to become attracted
/r/seduction02/08/17 11:04 PM
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wrong way to go about it. you're trying to ease into this, doesn't work that way. attraction occurs quickly. she will decide very soon whether she sees you as a sexual prospect, and that mainly depends on: a) how you frame your interactions with her and b) how attracted she is to you. you can control a), for b) it varies your focus should be to ask her out. however, judging from this thread and your posts it may be too late. ideally you want to strike early when you first meet the girl, i.e let …
/r/seduction02/08/17 10:11 PM
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what do you mean your activity? the activity is suppose to be for you and the girl, it's both of your activity. the activity should preferably be meeting up for drinks or coffee in the evening. meeting up in the evening is better, usually 8pm
/r/seduction02/08/17 09:58 PM
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in my experience it's better to work off her schedule. asking when she is available and she gives you a few days to work with, then you select the day that works for you. works great. this way you don't have to go through a text run around where you suggest a few days, says she's not available, you suggest more days, says she can't, etc
/r/seduction02/08/17 03:37 PM
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in my experience it's better to work off her schedule. asking when she is available and she gives you a few days to work with, then you select the day that works for you. works great. this way you don't have to go through a text run around where you suggest a few days, says she's not available, you suggest more days, says she can't, etc
/r/seduction02/08/17 03:37 PM
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yes there's hope, you need field experience. go out and learn from your mistakes. is it possible to get a fuck buddy off cold approach? sure it is, people do it all the time. the way you do it is develop a solid process from open to close. you won't get every girl, in fact most of the time you will be rejected, but if you structure your process optimally you can see reasonable success
/r/seduction02/08/17 02:40 PM
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ask her what days she's available. determine a concrete day and time. if she doesn't give you her schedule i would forget about it
/r/seduction02/08/17 02:34 PM
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why are you trying to befriend her? if it's so you can eventually fuck her that's not a good reason also, some girls will gladly be your friend if you make that clear upon open "hi i'm new in town and just looking to meet people". they may tell you they have a boyfriend but they'll still meet with you. expect to be doing strictly platonic things: sitting at a table and simply talking, going to lunch together, walking around. no intimacy, no holding hands or kissing, no sexual energy
/r/seduction02/08/17 01:12 PM
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one thing that i haven't tested yet is offering to pick the girls up and have drinks at your place. a line like that is very intentful and screens for girls who are down for casual sex. not sure how successful it is in reality though
/r/seduction02/08/17 10:51 AM
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when you got her phone number it should have been under the premise of hanging out again later. this way you would have avoided her responding by she just studies alone. try to be have some kind of intent from the start. when she responded that she doesn't like groups that may be a fair response. the issue is that she is not viewing this interaction as a sexual prospect, she believes it's all platonic. so far i don't think you have even hinted to her that you want either a hook up or relationshi…
/r/seduction02/08/17 10:40 AM
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i assume you're new. you need more experience. girls telling you they have bfs is just simply apart of the process, when it happens just move on
/r/seduction02/08/17 10:31 AM
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you're confusing a fuckboy with an alpha male that has his shit together
/r/seduction02/08/17 03:13 AM
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most girls don't want fuckboys, that has a negative connotation. there are a certain subset of girls that like to fuck quickly and will fuck if you approach them appropriately about it. not sure how effective the fuckboy approach is
/r/seduction02/08/17 02:27 AM
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stores are the same as any other approach in my opinion. approach, talk, create that bubble, sprinkle in some intent, suggest a hang out, grab the number, leave. text the number and proceed from there
/r/seduction02/08/17 02:14 AM
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what is the context of this being said? your response depends on that
/r/seduction02/08/17 02:13 AM
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get busy and have other leads. before i use to get frustrated with flakes, now not so much. one thing you should do: as soon as you get the number text it right away with your name, usually that yields a reply. at that point the girl is more inclined to keep responding because she's responded once already. only text to set up dates. if girls go radio silent suddenly during text, hit them up 12-24 hrs later. if still being flakey then forget about it. the key is to constantly have more leads. con…
/r/seduction02/08/17 02:11 AM
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99% of the time you should next these girls
/r/seduction30/07/17 01:33 PM
1

why snapchat, get the phone number
/r/seduction30/07/17 01:29 PM
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Why do you want to get her Snapchat? I don't understand
/r/seduction29/07/17 06:49 PM
2

social awareness is key, if you do not have that you are royally fucked
/r/seduction28/07/17 07:31 PM
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you're probably misinterpreting. the girls probably thought you were too pushy, inappropriate, inconsiderate, etc. hard to tell without witnessing what actually happened
/r/seduction28/07/17 07:30 PM
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as long as you didn't say anything vuglar or suggestive you're fine
/r/seduction28/07/17 07:23 PM
1

don't ask. just go for it. accept that it may fail, if it does then go back to talking as if nothing happened example: last night i was on a date, i tried to kiss her early on in my car, it failed. at the end of the date when she was about to leave my car i sat there and didn't say anything, she then initiated the kiss
/r/seduction28/07/17 03:58 PM
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getting responses and attention from girls is unfulfilling. once you're at that point you stop and think, wow why did i really need this anyway. focus on your life, build your life up, have girls that you are pursuing but there's no reason to put the focus all on them
/r/seduction27/07/17 11:19 AM
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why do you need a way to talk to her privately. whatever you tell her she's going to tell her friends anyway
/r/seduction26/07/17 11:29 PM
1

do not speak to her unless she speaks to you first. interact with other girls, you've already tried this one
/r/seduction26/07/17 11:26 PM
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do not do this. most women can not handle confrontation like that.
/r/seduction26/07/17 03:04 PM
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whatever shit you are thrown, own it. don't be afraid to just bring light to what you are or what you're doing. girls ask me if i approach girls on the street often, i literally tell them yes i do it often. most of the time they don't even care for the reason, they wanna see how you respond
/r/seduction26/07/17 03:03 PM
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example 2 is a poor response. logically trying to convince a girl to be with you or get to know you never works. usually, when a girl has decided that she's no longer interested it's hard to turn that around. it's best if she's still on the fence about you, i.e: not sure at the moment, wants to see where this goes, curious to see what this is all about, going with the flow, etc. if a girl tells you straight up that she thinks you two will never be compatible most of the time it's over for that s…
/r/seduction26/07/17 02:56 PM
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she may be feeling creeped out or trapped since you know where she lives. stop communicating with her and no longer acknowledge her unless she speaks to you first. don't be the creepy guy of the neighborhood that terrorizes women, you could get in trouble doing that
/r/seduction26/07/17 02:52 PM
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When we are alone among men we don't know, many women feel vulnerable. For good reason. when YOU are among men you don't know, YOU feel vulnerable. there are certain girls who feel this way, however i can confirm that there are also certain girls who feel confident, light-hearted, and at ease in their skin among men they do not know
/r/seduction26/07/17 03:01 AM
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there are definitely a good amount of women that don't mind being approached on the street by an attractive and socially attuned man source: experience
/r/seduction26/07/17 02:59 AM
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you need to ask them out. you create your own reality, if you made the invite some may have agreed by now and you would have some dates lined up
/r/seduction25/07/17 06:36 PM
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what in the world
/r/seduction25/07/17 03:11 PM
2

start approaching asian girls or other short women. always wear shoe lifts, that should give you an inch or two extra. there are ways to get around this
/r/seduction25/07/17 03:09 PM
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if you're 5'7" or 5'8" you can still crush it. most girls are short anyway. being chubby and unkept are all fixable things tbh
/r/seduction25/07/17 02:27 PM
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most guys look average. most guys are average height. as long as you're average in these two aspects then you're fine
/r/seduction25/07/17 01:52 PM
3

good job
/r/seduction25/07/17 01:47 PM
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be relaxed and confident. don't be afraid of ruining the set or blowing it up. if you're afraid of losing her then you're gonna screw up along the way. however, if you don't really care if she leaves you and have other girls that you're hitting up you will be in a good position. the point is: do not get invested in her until she gets invested in you first
/r/seduction24/07/17 05:16 PM
1

it's over
/r/seduction24/07/17 04:26 PM
2

on dates i rarely escalate, if at all. the most escalation i do is holding eye contact, proximity, maybe a hand on the thigh. once i pull and we are isolated in my apartment, that's when the escalation starts
/r/seduction24/07/17 04:24 PM
1

that's pua lingo for approaching girls.
/r/seduction24/07/17 04:20 PM
2

drinks or coffee near my place. preferably within walking distance. i have a bar 10 minutes from my place that i schedule all my dates at. after drinks we walk back to my place
/r/seduction24/07/17 04:19 PM
1

if they are single they will most likely be down
/r/seduction24/07/17 04:01 PM
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go out, get rejected, go home, cry it out, jerk off to feel better, go out again, get some results, feel good, get rejected, cry some more, jerk off again, go out, get a fuck a buddy, win
/r/seduction24/07/17 03:51 PM
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do your hair, make up, nails. dress hot: perk up your boobs with a bra, wear a tight dress that shows off your figure and butt. then go to a house party and simply wait, the guys will come to you
/r/seduction24/07/17 03:45 PM
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i'm 22 and work 9-5, sometimes 8-4. after work i drive into the city and park my car on the street. walk around for 1-2 hours opening sets and then go home. do that everyday
/r/seduction24/07/17 12:55 AM
1

why are you still in communication with your ex, that's your first problem
/r/seduction22/07/17 05:59 PM
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abundance. you have no options. you are in scarcity. this is the one and only girl you have contact with. if you had multiple girls that were interested in meeting up and dating you, you wouldn't be having this problem. start collecting more leads
/r/seduction22/07/17 05:57 PM
2

about a 10% approach to number rate, and about the same for numbers that convert to a lay/date
/r/seduction21/07/17 03:41 PM
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move to a big city and start approaching every day. get on tinder and maybe okcupid and start swiping girls and hitting up girls. in the meantime go to the gym to work on your physique and improve your style. do social circle whenever you get the chance. if your leads from online dating aren't strong then hit the streets, nothing is stopping you from cold approaching women right now in order to gain more leads
/r/seduction21/07/17 03:24 PM
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varies for me, i daygame every day and do about 4-12 approaches, sometimes more. so 40-60 approaches per week
/r/seduction21/07/17 03:20 PM
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in my experience girls rarely notice and start chasing me. i'm sure freshman year in college there were a few girls that noticed me and wanted me. but i was young and wasn't paying attention to them because they weren't as hot as i wanted. i've always wanted hot girls, or i had an ideal of what i wanted in terms of looks. sitting back and letting the girls come to me would never get me those girls, which is why i spend so much time approaching and doing online
/r/seduction21/07/17 11:46 AM
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22 year old non-white male at around 12 lays, give or take 1 since it's been a while. i started at 18, before i began approaching i tried the social circle route. hit up girls at my school on facebook and tried to meet them conventionally, through events, activities, etc. didn't work, ended up asking out a few girls, all rejected due to boyfriends, no interest, etc. after a final rejection with a girl i've been trying to get with in my 2nd year of college i started approaching consistently. did …
/r/seduction21/07/17 01:09 AM
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it can all work. direct or indirect. do whatever you feel you want to do in the moment. the most important thing is to remain confident and alpha. hold your frame, don't waver, be firm&strong. as you get some leads and results under your belt your confidence will start to increase
/r/seduction21/07/17 12:15 AM
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generally these types of opens are not good. it opens the girl up to willingly detract from the real reason why you approached her which was to chat and get to know her. this is why asking for directions to starbucks or xyz is not a good opener as well. because the girl will be fixated on the fact that you spoke to her to get to starbucks
/r/seduction20/07/17 01:34 PM
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this sounds like a typical night out at a bar or nightclub, there isn't really much of an issue in how you're doing things based on reading this. now, i don't know what your vibe or body language is, but some things you should always be doing: keep good posture and have strong eye contact, especially within the first few seconds of opening. hold your frame and don't waver. now, assuming you are doing this, i wouldn't worry too much about these sets. you definitely need to be opening more volume …
/r/seduction20/07/17 03:32 AM
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you need to cultivate an abundance mentality. this girl is just one out of several girls that you could potentially be with. start honing that mindset, once you have that down do the following: the next time you see her walk up to her and approach her similar to how you would do a cold approach. then simply start talking to her and flirting lightly. nothing overt, just enough to know that you're interested in hanging with her outside of school. once you've done that set up a day to meet with her…
/r/seduction19/07/17 06:30 PM
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don't compare your results to someone else
/r/seduction19/07/17 06:11 PM
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i don't understand how this claim has reliable data to back it up. the fact of the matter is that any type of approach can work. you can get girls going indirect or direct, most of the time it doesn't even matter. are you talking about behaving in an indirect manner throughout the entire interaction? obviously that will not produce results because you are not even gaming or using pick up at that point. picking up a girl requires you to flirt with her and create some type of tension (sexual/flirt…
/r/seduction19/07/17 06:05 PM
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1-2 rejections per night is nothing. you need to be opening a lot more volume per night if you're serious about getting laid
/r/seduction19/07/17 05:42 PM
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normally i keep physicality low until i have pulled the girl to my place. you should not be trying to physically escalate on girls that you are afraid to lose. you have to be willing to accept that some of the girls might blow out. cultivate an abundance mindset and just begin escalating. first by cuddling, next by making out
/r/seduction18/07/17 07:05 PM
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OP just hasn't been opening enough. Also, it's difficult to assess his vibe and body language through text. The best way to assess pick up skills is through real life. That's why it's so difficult to give advice through the internet. No one was able to actually see OP approaching. one thing that is very obvious is that he hasn't opened nearly enough in a single night. 6 approaches is very little for a night out at the clubs
/r/seduction18/07/17 06:50 PM
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False. Attraction is generated instantly. Normally upon an approach attraction happens within seconds. I think the issue is defining what exactly attraction is. attraction isn't all of a sudden the girl wants to fuck your brains out as soon as you approach her, doesn't work like that. attraction is that the girl sees you as a viable sexual partner. meaning, she has not dismissed you into the friend category once you've approached. if she hasn't dismissed you, that means you have generated attrac…
/r/seduction18/07/17 06:47 PM
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a few days ago i banged a girl that i approached off the street. daygame cold approach works, people are getting laid off approaching girls on the street all the time. average looking guys can do fine, socially awkward not so much. the point of game and pick up is to advance your skills so that you are not socially awkwarde
/r/seduction18/07/17 06:43 PM
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cold approach is simply an avenue in which you can meet women. if you completely disregard cold approach your options for getting laid are now: online or social circle. if you are serious about getting laid why would you disregard a legitimate method on meeting and fucking chicks. cold approach works, you can fuck girls off cold approach, it's been demonstrated tons and tons and tons of times. whether it be daygame cold approach or nightgame cold approach. once you accept that it works and it's …
/r/seduction14/07/17 12:00 PM
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the threshold for how attractive you need to be in order for most girls you cold approach to fuck you is not high. chances are, if you look like an average male and not fat you look good enough. most of the time during daygame cold approach it's not your looks that girls blow you out on. it's your vibe: how comfortable were you, do you look nervous, are you shaky and breaking eye contact thus making you appear untrustworthy, etc. there's also the possibility that some girls are just not receptiv…
/r/seduction14/07/17 11:56 AM
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generally people cold approach to date and eventually fuck the girls. if you weren't planning on fucking then you're cold approaching to make friends, there are easier way to make friends.
/r/seduction14/07/17 11:52 AM
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when you have to wake up and get to work in just a few hours you'll stop trying to masturbate and watch porn as soon as you get up
/r/seduction13/07/17 04:08 PM
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talk to girls at school. the purpose of doing cold approach is to date the girls and ultimately fuck them. if you're just trying to work on your social skills i recommend socializing in highschool
/r/seduction13/07/17 04:13 AM
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legal issues. high school would be your best bet to get laid.
/r/seduction13/07/17 03:45 AM
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16 years old? seems pretty young to start. i recommend waiting until at least 18
/r/seduction13/07/17 02:53 AM
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i've met tyler in real life. they are just regular dudes. i'm sure they've resented a few students and maybe have said some things behind closed doors. fundamentally though i believe that they actually want to help guys and believe that their teachings produce results. todd definitely comes off that way at least. with that being said, rsd instructors are not gods and they do not have super powers. i saw jeffy at a bar once with a few students on bootcamp. in person he is just a regular dude drin…
/r/seduction13/07/17 12:20 AM
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a lambo will attract girls for the wrong reasons. the girls that you will get will be gold diggers and money hungry. you don't want these girls. you want girls who already have money because then they'll actually appreciate being with you
/r/seduction13/07/17 12:12 AM
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80 approaches over the course of about a week
/r/seduction13/07/17 12:09 AM
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one thing i will remind you of is that most guys that are in relationships met their girlfriends through social circle. most likely your friends have met their girls this way: through work, friends of friends, some type of activity, etc. when you do not have a viable social circle with available women, it becomes difficult to meet/date/get a girlfriend. if you didn't already know, there are only 3 possible ways to meet and date/sleep with new women. that is: social circle, online dating, and col…
/r/seduction09/07/17 06:34 PM
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if i can get a solid convo in and build some rapport usually i do yes
/r/seduction09/07/17 04:40 AM
1

I said "there are so many cool bars in the city, what are your favorite spots?"
/r/seduction08/07/17 01:29 PM
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this is true. one thing to keep in mind though is that your job as a man is to elicit these emotions out of her. it is not common for a woman to feel very excited to meet up again with a man who cold approached her on the street and asked her out. a better idea is presenting yourself in a masculine way and building comfort with her first. otherwise you run the risk of seeing things very black or white. meaning, you believe that all it takes is to ask out every single girl you see until one of th…
/r/seduction07/07/17 01:52 AM
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bootcamp is for either or, meeting women to have sex with them and potentially dating long term. they also have conferences called hotseats which is similar to an instructor lecturing a group of people
/r/seduction07/07/17 01:44 AM
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I recommend that you focus on opening consistently. There's nothing wrong with being friendly in set, you just need to make sure you're attracting her early on with strong behavior. As you talk with her and build more rapport you can begin to tease here and there. The key is to keep opening
/r/seduction06/07/17 03:59 PM
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there are dating coaches for men as well. RSD in particular offers bootcamps which is when the instructors take out individual men for 3 nights to bars and in the daytime and critique their game. a bootcamp typically costs $2-3k, there's also free conferences and paid ones. there is a lot of paid material in the pick up industry
/r/seduction06/07/17 03:51 PM
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you need to stop coming off so antagonistic. no one knows your exact situation. the best way to correct your mistakes is to have someone observe and breakdown your sets. or, if you're open minded enough and willing to change, you can understand the fundamentals of what you are trying to accomplish and focus on that. There's a reason I want to go indirect, because direct only works if the woman is already attracted to you or is nice enough to talk to you despite not being attracted. where the hel…
/r/seduction05/07/17 09:42 PM
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there are a lot of things fundamentally wrong with your mindset for me to help you. if you can't brainstorm routines or conversation topics to have with women you approach then you have already failed. i feel that you are expecting people to spoon feed you full routines from start to finish. this is a very lazy mindset and if you keep thinking like that you will ultimately quit cold approach in just a few weeks or months. i think you should go indirect or direct depending on the situation, there…
/r/seduction05/07/17 05:21 PM
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If you really need something to talk about do this: prior to going out write down full routines or sentences that you plan to say after you open. You: hi there I liked your style and had to come say hello She responds You: you look like an indoors kind of girl, what do you do on the weekends? She responds You: that's great, I like to do spend my Friday doing xyz She responds You: you should get into xyz, it lets me feel alive and passionate She responds I think you're being a little bit lazy to …
/r/seduction05/07/17 01:24 PM
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Real success rates doing cold approach are generally low. Think 0.5-1% range. Granted, it is one of the most difficult yet rewarding ways to meet and fuck women. Most of the time the reason the success rate is so low is due to logistics. Girl has a boyfriend, girl isn't in the mood to talk, girl needs to be somewhere in x minutes, etc. These are sets that just need to be filtered through, which is why you may need to approach nearly 100 girls before you get 1 lay. The way you increase your succe…
/r/seduction05/07/17 05:30 AM
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The idea isn't to focus on what to talk about. It's about focusing on what you're non verbally communicating to her such as: masculinity, strong body language, alpha behavior, etc. The content of what you say won't get her attracted and invested in you. To answer your question, most conversations during a cold approach are about absolutely nothing. Watch some in field, or observe how your friends approach. It's mostly biography type convo with some jokes and teasing sprinkled in, this keeps the …
/r/seduction05/07/17 05:09 AM
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yes leading girls works. i like to have a general flow for my dates. meet at a bar for drinks, vibe and chit chat, tease her, flirt with her, build more rapport, etc. a half hour in start seeding the idea of pulling her back to my place "cool video i have to show you" and gauging her receptiveness. if she's all for it then i know that i have an in which is when i start to slip the invitation 45 minutes into the date. if i can see she's not turned off by the invite i take that as a good sign and …
/r/seduction04/07/17 08:47 PM
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attraction occurs within minutes upon an open. the problem with this post is that it over exaggerates what it means for a girl to be attracted to you. when you approach a girl she subconsciously decides whether she will fuck you, won't fuck you, or potentially will fuck you. if you are an average male who isn't hideous most of the time the girl will decide to potentially fuck you. meaning, she isn't fucking you because of your looks, your looks are neutral to her. what she is doing is giving you…
/r/seduction04/07/17 06:41 PM
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it's different between each girl how long it takes to establish a connection. some girls are down to meet after talking to a guy for 5 minutes, some girls need 5 hours. just to note, i didn't bail as soon as i got the number, i chatted for a minute or two more after that and then departed. one thing i could have done is hinted for an insta date right then and there to determine her reaction and current availability. if it wasn't likely to go down it's best to settle for the number instead of pus…
/r/seduction04/07/17 06:32 PM
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when you meet a girl at social events like these in which you cannot risk blowing the venue you should just remain friendly and cool. if it's clear that everyone knows everyone and you were invited i would just talk to everyone. don't make it seem like you're hitting on a particular girl. get to know her for a bit, perhaps grab a number when things are ending and you happen to be talking to her at that time. overall, just do not overthink it. in club environments you are completely anonymous and…
/r/seduction04/07/17 03:07 PM
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i think we should not allow video advertisements. become more stricter with what links are allowed. bloggers are abusing this subreddit because they just wanna get traffic
/r/seduction04/07/17 03:03 PM
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I find that the younger crowd likes to text for a few days back and forth before meeting while the older crowd likes to get straight to meeting early. Probably is an experience thing. But anyway, I think you'll learn as you go but I recommend you don't text her again until she contacts you first or until a few days later. I think you should put this on hold for now. Probably would have been best to try and invite her out earlier. The next time you write her (which should be in a few days if no r…
/r/seduction03/07/17 01:12 PM
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Again, women are bombarded with messages and matches daily on these apps. Every swipe that she makes is a match, because almost every guy has already swiped to like her. I wouldn't get hung up over online dating. Fundamentally it plays towards the girl's favor. An attractive girl on tinder is showered with options, you just haven't seen this so you believe you are the only guy on her radar. You're not, there are several other guys just like you in her tinder, perhaps she isn't messaging you beca…
/r/seduction03/07/17 01:05 PM
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you would get few results, if any. women are attracted to men whom they have a connection with. if all you do is ask for a phone number right away, you aren't establishing anything. you need to approach and present yourself in a masculine way, followed by generating rapport and establishing common ground. only after you've created a connection and are able to see her for more than just her looks should you then go for a number/date. ideally, she should be helping you set up the date, that's when…
/r/seduction03/07/17 04:50 AM
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you're already in a bad mindset. you need to occupy yourself with other things. what would she think if she saw that you were writing paragraphs about her and had your mind so preoccupied with this. stop investing, stop trying to make it work. let it go, maybe this will die and that will be the end of the that. learn from this, have other shit going on and keep the girl in the background. what you are doing right now is not demonstrating alpha behavior. an alpha male would not behave how are you…
/r/seduction03/07/17 04:34 AM
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some sets logistically don't work out, girl is on her way some where, in the middle of something, etc. so there's limited time to make something happen. sets are too short, most of the time it's 5 minutes or less. sets could be longer but i'd have to do more walking with the girl for blocks, unfortunately it's difficult for me to stop the girls. i also don't go for the insta date when i probably should at times. overall my sets are just too short for me to build a solid connection and i need to …
/r/seduction03/07/17 01:28 AM
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i have been doing this regularly for the past year and i started about 4 years ago. my results are not very compelling though
/r/seduction03/07/17 12:14 AM
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give a little description of yourself, are you new, intermediate, advanced? i don't live in nyc but i've met with wings online, i'd like to know about the wing and his vibe before i commit to a meet up. last thing i want is to meet with a weirdly uncalibrated RSD dude who blows out venues left and right
/r/seduction02/07/17 11:14 PM
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don't text or contact her again. you've already pushed it. go silent, she might engage with you again through text or snapchat. you're over invested at the moment and need to pursue other girls or focus on other shit in your life
/r/seduction02/07/17 11:12 PM
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don't rely on online, do cold approach. online should not be your main source of pussy, exactly for the reasons that you have just described. average looking to hot girls on there are bombarded by messages, you won't stand out unless you're hot. cold approaching women during the day eliminates about 99% of the competition, because most guys don't have the balls to do it. if you must do online you should start lowering your standards, message girls that aren't getting as much attention and try to…
/r/seduction02/07/17 10:40 PM
1

dress in dark clothing, fitted dark shirt, fitted light biker jacket. it gives off a more mysterious look
/r/seduction02/07/17 05:22 PM
1

i have no experience with picking up women as an asian dude. i can tell you that i'm not white though, biracial ethnic male. thing about race is that yes some girls will be turned off and some won't. is it harder to get girls as a non-white male? it depends. if you're a 6 foot tall muscular asian dude with a good jawline, then you will have no problems getting girls. the point is, any race can look good. try to present yourself in a more masculine way. lift, wear fitted clothing, roll up with go…
/r/seduction02/07/17 05:21 PM
2

i've always been single for the past 5 years+, i've only had 1 real girlfriend and that lasted about a month. i admit when i was 18,19,20 i was still fixated on getting a girlfriend, that was my main goal. now at 22, i really don't care about getting a girlfriend. for example there is one girl who i met during a temporary job that ended this past friday. i have her number, we've talked, we've texted, we've connected well, and i could probably turn her into a girlfriend if i was serious about it.…
/r/seduction02/07/17 03:17 PM
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what are you after, a relationship or sex? if you're really in that desperate need for sex you can always pay for it, going 7 months without a lay is quite some time. if you're looking for a relationship, ask yourself why. i never really understand when a guy insists that he is looking for a relationship or girlfriend. if you are looking to fuck hot girls i can completely understand that. why are you looking for a relationship? relationships just happen, you meet people in life doing things you …
/r/seduction02/07/17 06:29 AM
1

you are simply not use to rejections. after going out almost every weekend for the past year stuff like this doesn't phase me anymore. it's just another night out, you get some numbers and you get a lot of girls not interested. life goes on
/r/seduction02/07/17 06:22 AM
1

good video, surprising to see that even good looking dudes still get the same rejections as your average guy
/r/seduction02/07/17 02:48 AM
2

how did you meet these particular girls?
/r/seduction30/05/17 01:11 AM
1

she was leaving the next morning? then it's not that big of a deal. you didn't have much time to make things happen with her. you did a good thing by trying to close that night, it's just that she wasn't down to fuck. i'm not exactly sure how you escalated on her, but ideally it should be very smooth and at a comfortable pace. maybe to the point of even letting her sleep over if she's not down for sex at that moment, and trying to bang her in the morning
/r/seduction30/05/17 01:09 AM
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people fuck girls within a few hours all the time, it happens. on new years eve i fucked i girl after having met her for a total of ~2ish hours. the point is that OP didn't back off sooner and pushed the girl's boundaries too far. he should have backed off, re calibrated, and then seed a second meet up with her and then try to close at that point
/r/seduction29/05/17 07:54 PM
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i'm actually surprised by the responses you're getting. but anyway, here is some advice: you did good in that you were able to pull her to your place, but i believe that you went too fast. she was probably not down for sex that day. you might have been able to determine this sooner and not have to spend all that time with her only to realize she's not down. anyway, what i would have done is after i pulled i would have escalated in the living room a bit and see how far she is comfortable with. wh…
/r/seduction29/05/17 07:52 PM
3

Seems fake to be honest, doesn't seem very realistic to have things go that smoothly
/r/seduction05/04/15 02:26 AM
1

Hi there, I remember seeing you around this subreddit a while back, cool to see that you're still doing game. I think I'm going keep it socially safe at coffee and then bounce to a new location with her. On the way I'd escalate a little bit by maybe playfully putting my arm around her and whatnot. Then I would invite her over as soon as we get closer to my place. I remember I did this before with another girl, she was down to come over and I haven't escalated at all on the date or walk home, onc…
/r/seduction16/03/15 01:26 PM
1

This sounds awesome, post a follow up
/r/seduction15/03/15 04:12 PM
1

In all my years of doing cold approach I never actually gave that spontaneous romantic viewpoint a try. Next time out I'll try it. Basically I frame it as if this was super spontaneous? "I just knew I had to come talk to you when I saw you"
/r/seduction15/03/15 02:04 PM
1

Let's see, in the past week not much really. I opened quite a bit of girls since I was on vacation for a couple days. I matched with two chicks on online dating apps, chatted with one for a bit, never was able to meet up with her. Other one didn't respond. That's pretty much my dating life in a nutshell right now. Did you go on a date with that girl yet?
/r/seduction09/03/15 01:26 AM
1

How'd it go?
/r/seduction28/02/15 08:30 PM
2

I use to think like you. But honestly if a situation like this did happen and you were in set with her talking for like a minute or two. You probably wouldn't have the guts to just all of a sudden act like a cold rude guy by saying "ok bye" right when you find out she has a boyfriend. I've tried, it's hard to do that in a set because its a social interaction which is suppose to be fun
/r/seduction28/02/15 05:17 PM
1

Ask when she's free and then tell her when you're free. If she says she doesn't know when she's free I wouldn't ask again. If she was slightly interested she would give you some days to work with
/r/seduction27/02/15 02:07 AM
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Your psychology is fucked up. How is it desperate or weird to approach attractive women? You need to re wire your brain. I'm not sure if you were socially conditioned to think that about approaching girls, or if you actually think guys who do approaches are desperate and weird. Either way, re wire your brain
/r/seduction26/02/15 05:47 AM
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You already fucked up. Placing too much value on her when you don't even know her. Not in a good mental head space to be in. It's good that you chatted her up and invited her out. Now that you're trying to reschedule, wait for her reply. If she doesn't reply, don't text back and consider it over. This would be an easy thing to do if you aren't invested in the beginning, unfortunately for you though you're already invested judging from what you've written here
/r/seduction26/02/15 05:42 AM
1

Just know that the same women that you love and respect a lot would let themselves be banged by other guys on a first night. Something to think about.
/r/seduction26/02/15 05:39 AM
1

Not awkward to speed walk back up to her and start chatting. I do it all the time, probably 80-90% of my daygame opens are like that. Just say hi, your reason to chat could be something like "i liked your scarf and wanted to say what's up"
/r/seduction25/02/15 03:02 PM
1

Don't go direct, not needed. Just run basic conversation. Don't go for the number right away. At least try to build some rapport, chat for a bit, if you opened on the street walk with her for a bit. After some conversation go for the number. If she looks busy I would open and proceed as normal, if she tells you she's busy you should probably bounce, try to get the number but even if you do it'll probably flake given the circumstances.
/r/seduction25/02/15 03:00 PM
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If you're out during the day and you have some free time and she has free time you could insta date and potentially pull back to your place and bang right then and there. Chances of meeting a girl that dtf are slim but you have to keep your eyes peeled (especially if you know you aren't strained for time).
/r/seduction25/02/15 02:57 PM
1

You need to go out and open more. In order to think properly during sets you need to desensitize yourself. Most people have only talked to a few strangers in their life. If you're opening consistently doing this will become natural for you.
/r/seduction25/02/15 02:54 PM
2

Just be straight up and honest. Your bigger issue is where you're going to be pulling to. Your parents might not be okay with you pulling back chicks and banging them out while they're trying to sleep to get up for work rofl
/r/seduction25/02/15 02:51 PM
1

You don't have to delve deep, it isn't neseccary. Basic conversation is fine, make some jokes if you want to show your sense of humor. Nothing is required to be said for her to be attracted. To make the conversation less interview like, make statements, or ask a question and then make a statement after that, repeat that process. Eventually, get the number and set up date plans
/r/seduction25/02/15 05:58 AM
1

You've never seen willy beck or justin wayne? This is definitely possible, it's more luck though than anything else
/r/seduction25/02/15 05:56 AM
3

Most of the time, it's difficult to convince a person whose already made up their mind. This is especially true when you don't know the person because you can't use any social leverage at all to help you. This can be applied to pick up as well. If you're out meeting new girls, you most likely won't be able to persuade them to meet up with you or date you if they've already made up their minds before the interaction began. What this means is that some girls aren't even thinking about dating at th…
/r/seduction23/02/15 07:23 PM
1

3rd year college student here. The only way you're going to break out of your shell and start approaching is if you really want this. That goes for anything in life. What you need to do is obvious, just say hi. There's no hidden tricks, or secret tips or ways to remove your anxiety. The way you remove is by desensitizing yourself to these situations. And how do you do that? Get use to opening girls. Say hi to girls while waiting in line, or girls next to you. Then after that ask a question, what…
/r/seduction20/02/15 04:21 PM
3

Too much info, all OP really needs to do is to plan beforehand for her to come over after the date. It's bad to escalate from a make out and onward when you're not at the sex location. If it's understood that she's coming over after the date OP probably doesn't even need to do much physical escalation until when she's in his room, at that point he can follow the ladder
/r/seduction18/02/15 04:52 PM
3

Plan to go back to your place after the date. For example, text: hey wanna grab a drink friday and then after come over for a movie? If she agrees then you're in a good spot
/r/seduction18/02/15 04:50 PM
1

Everyone starts somewhere, how about you post and help some new people out, and if you think no one would appreciate what you have to post then don't post and just leave
/r/seduction18/02/15 04:48 PM
1

No not really. Most girls would just say, oh thanks. I wouldn't say something like that though, would just say "I liked your cardigan and wanted to say what's up". The way you worded it focuses too much on the cardigan when it should just be an in for you to start talking with her
/r/seduction17/02/15 10:58 PM
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Eh, most pick up advice is simply arbitrary. Which isn't bad, it's just that there's not a lot of practical advice out there. It's probably because you can't make an entire post or article on practical advice when it comes to pick up since there is such little content. For example: go out, confidently approach girls, get numbers, set up dates, escalate on the dates, continue until you have a girlfriend
/r/seduction17/02/15 10:23 PM
1

Move onto another girl, this one is a waste of time
/r/seduction17/02/15 10:19 PM
1

Seems like you're already fighting an uphill battle right now. I'd try again one more time but make sure you plan it to avoid excuses. So set up a day in advance, and make it indoors
/r/seduction17/02/15 10:18 PM
0

What's the point of this, did you even ask her out?
/r/seduction17/02/15 10:16 PM
2

I don't want to be just friends though. If I saw her as a friend from the start I wouldn't mind meeting up if she invited me out and just hanging out doing platonic shit. But if I like her and want a relationship, yet she wants to just hang out as friends, I can't enjoy a situation like that, and so I can't be patient with it because to me it seems like things are going absolutely no where
/r/seduction17/02/15 10:15 PM
1

I don't know how to run solid game so that the girl is all over me during the hang out. Usually I just show up, make some chit chat and do some kino here and there. But when I try to do more overt things they just get shot down so I have no idea where to go from there. I think I'm a sex worthy guy. One way to prove that is by getting physical. If I can't even do that though without her rejecting my advances I'm not left with much. It's not like I can say certain things and all of a sudden she'll…
/r/seduction17/02/15 10:12 PM
0

Don't do it. I can confirm that tinder works though, just takes a shit ton of swipes, but it does work so eventually you will get laid, just plain numbers
/r/seduction17/02/15 03:51 AM
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I wouldn't over think it because it honestly wouldn't matter much. Nowadays I go for the most simplest of openers no matter what the scenario "hi, how are you". I wait for her reply, give my name, ask for hers, then say I like something that shes wearing like her jacket or scarf and that I wanted to say what's up
/r/seduction17/02/15 03:50 AM
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I'm gonna call you out on this one. You say that if things "click" then I can go for the kiss. And that I need social awareness to understand when this would happen. But what you don't tell me is how I could increase my chances of things to "click" with this particular girl. If I'm already asking her out, I'm already interested, so I think a better way to phrase it is if she ends up liking me during our time together. But honestly, if she wants to meet up as just a hang out that is already a red…
/r/seduction17/02/15 03:42 AM
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Sorry if there was confusion but there have been multiple instances where this has happened. Obviously I wouldn't try for a kiss if she didn't let me hold her hand. I meant to say that for a couple hang outs I would try to hold her hand and for a couple others I would try to kiss first, either attempts would fail. If a girl tells me she wants to hang out, would that lead to dating though? See I just really really value my time here. I'd love to get to know some awesome girls and spend time with …
/r/seduction17/02/15 03:26 AM
2

From past experience, it seems like the only game you need is just presenting to the girl the opportunity (date, meet up, day 2) and then leading and escalating from there. If the girl wants it she'll cooperate and go along with it and bam that's how things happen, whether it be sex, make out, whatever. At least that's how I've experienced it. I've never converted a girl who I've hung out with first into anything romantic or sexual. That's why I'm so skeptical about going on these hang outs. The…
/r/seduction16/02/15 11:02 PM
1

Normally we'd go to get coffee. I'd greet with a hug and we'd walk and talk together on our way to the coffee shop. I do some basic things like open doors and place hand behind her back to guide her in. Then we order and sit. Somewhere along the way I try to go for their hands if they have rings or jewelry on and just hold their hand a bit from there. Sometimes on the way to the coffee shop or when we're leaving I try and go to hold their hand. I can remember numerous times where this would fail…
/r/seduction16/02/15 09:02 PM
1

You have low social awareness, forget about her it's over. Work on your social skills and developing social cues
/r/seduction08/02/15 06:13 AM
1

Forgot about it. This is sad. You shouldn't have done notes at the beginning. Should've talked to her after class. Right now it seems like she's not interested. I would save your self respect by not trying to engage her anymore when clearly she's not interested
/r/seduction08/02/15 12:23 AM
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Texting is irrelevant. The goal is to meet her out. It's all about the initial interaction. You get the number as a means to set up a date. Some fluff talk is fine but the most key thing is that you set up a date. Not texting after that or texting her a little bit won't make or break you. As long as you aren't texting constantly without her replying you should be good as long as she already likes you/agreed to a date
/r/seduction08/02/15 12:17 AM
1

I can't help you with a problem like this
/r/seduction07/02/15 11:23 PM
1

Should've gotten the number and texted her on the spot so she has yours. Ideally you leave knowing that both of you saved each other's numbers in your phone. Shows that you're both serious about this and wanna see each other. Did she text you yet? Handing just a business card may be smooth but it definitely doesn't have a high response rate
/r/seduction07/02/15 04:42 PM
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How did it end? Did she like you as just friends or she was interested in dating? Either way stop thinking she's your dream girl. You can't be thinking about girls like that until at the very least you've had sex with them. In essence, you've already fucked up because you started idolizing her and clearly it's poisoning your mind. What I recommend, is you tell me how you lost her, how far you've escalated with her and how did you meet her. If you know for sure that it's over then delete her numb…
/r/seduction07/02/15 04:38 PM
1

You're over thinking it. Have you asked her out yet? If you haven't, text her and invite her out immediately. Once you know if she likes you or not you can proceed from there. Stop investing in texts if you don't know if she actually likes you yet
/r/seduction07/02/15 04:33 PM
1

So true, it's not like a penis that is more in front. The vagina is literally underneath her body, so if you look at her naked from the front you shouldn't actually see the hole lol
/r/seduction07/02/15 04:32 PM
2

Stop overthinking the open, walk up to her and say hi. Then let her say hi back and say that you like her x, x could be any clothing she has or item like glasses, jacket. I do this in the day, puts less stress on me to think of an opener, not sure if it'll work in clubs
/r/seduction07/02/15 04:30 PM
0

She wants to be your bestest friend ever OP, you just can't touch her and no sex, how does that make you feel?
/r/seduction07/02/15 04:28 PM
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You shouldn't have anxiety when waiting for a text reply. Realize that girls come and go. You should be occupying your time with other shit and if she doesn't reply it's her loss
/r/seduction03/02/15 11:29 PM
2

Get another girl, go out and start approaching or start using tinder. Talk to other girls in your classes. You realize that eventually you're going to have to do this right? Because clearly things aren't working with this girl
/r/seduction03/02/15 11:28 PM
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Honestly, the longer you wait and not text her to end it, the worse it gets. You should already be moving on. You need to stop wasting time thinking about her and the situation. You already know the problem, take action and text her first and be done with it. You probably still want to think about her and you don't want to lose what you have because you've invested so much already, which was a mistake in the first place based on how far you've gotten. Do yourself the favor OP and just let go and…
/r/seduction03/02/15 06:04 PM
2

Good, now what're you going to do about it? Also, do you have other options in terms of girls? Cutting this girl off is the right decision but that's only step 1. Make sure you have another girl to try your chances on. If you don't have another girl, find one
/r/seduction03/02/15 06:00 PM
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Stop it bro, first let me ask you this, is this asian? Just curious, also just get out of the situation man. We're telling you the facts man. What did she plan anyway and are you paying for it? Either way just text her right now and say that you don't like how the situation is and that you don't want to hang out with her anymore. Then just delete the number and move on. It'll burn and you might think about her 1-2 days after but once you start talking to other girls you'll soon forget
/r/seduction03/02/15 03:29 PM
1

Um cause you're not doing anything. They're hot girls, you have to go to the hot girls, the hot girls don't come to you. So walk up to them and say hi. I bet you didn't even say a word to them and just expected them to make eye contact with you, walk up to you and start talking
/r/seduction03/02/15 03:24 PM
3

Don't you feel a little bit pissed off OP. You said you've spent money too. You could've spent that time pursuing other girls instead of just wasting it on her
/r/seduction03/02/15 03:23 PM
1

Actually I would believe that they dont know its a date. Some girls can be really stupid. Or the idea might be in their head that it's a date but they'll deny that idea and ignore it until they are faced to answer if you question them about it. That's in the absolute worst case though.
/r/seduction03/02/15 03:20 PM
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This, OP you are getting SOOO played out. Trust me, I know girls like these. First of all, this girl doesn't like you romantically, she sees you as a friend. Understand this. If she's not letting you hold her hand after a month then something is wrong. Shit, there should be kino starting from day 1. You are not in a relationship OP. She wants to keep it unlabeled because she knows that if she tells you straight up that you two are just friends, you'll not want to hang out with her. She wants the…
/r/seduction03/02/15 05:57 AM
1

What do you mean by try hard? First, do all the hot girls in the class know each other? If they don't, you're solid. If they do, you only have one shot with one of them. If they don't know each other, one day just sit next to one of them during routines or whatever, and start chatting, say hi. That shouldn't be try hard. If you strike out with one of them, the next day just go talk to another one of them and don't make a big deal out of it. This will work if they don't know each other, if they d…
/r/seduction03/02/15 05:47 AM
2

I wouldn't text back again. Let it be, you should go out again the next day and open more girls. If this one happens to reply back follow up, if she doesn't then don't worry about it
/r/seduction03/02/15 02:25 AM
6

Stop worrying about what's a shit test and what isn't. Calibrate accordingly when sets aren't going well and if a girl tells you to firmly leave you peace out, it's that simple
/r/seduction03/02/15 12:13 AM
2

You're still not clear. You're too vague. Why not just explain in detail. For example: second time we met up we got dinner and then afterwards she came over to my place and sucked me off. Since you've already had sex with her just replicate the same model to lay her. This isn't rocket science, if it's worked before it should work again. Don't worry about trying to kiss her, if you two are having sex it'd seem kind of stupid and weird for her to not kiss you then.
/r/seduction03/02/15 12:11 AM
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I disagree. Then more you keep "hanging out" with her without making any advances, the deeper into the friend zone you get. I'd start trying to escalate immediately by at least holding her hand. You need to know if she actually likes you or if she is just bullshitting around and sees you as a friend. She's not going to develop attraction for you as you keep hanging out, it doesn't work like that. She has to see you as a potential partner from the beginning
/r/seduction03/02/15 12:07 AM
1

So you've had sex with her?
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:23 PM
1

Man up and approach. Are you in high school? You're putting too much weight on this. You may just get rejected anyway or she may have a boyfriend. That's why it's important to not blow anything up in your mind and just go for it.
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:23 PM
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Your situation sounds similar to a one I had. First of all, how are you meeting these girls? Online, cold approach, class? Second, there's a GOOD chance that these girls don't even see your meet up as a date. Especially if you asked them vaguely if they wanted to get coffee or something along those lines. Now, there isn't anything wrong with that, and it should actually be infered that if a girl and guy are meeting up for coffee alone it should be considered a date. But there are girls who are s…
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:20 PM
1

What do you mean you've fooled around with her? Explain in detail, she touched your dick? No one knows what you're talking about
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:14 PM
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That's not a shit test. Open more sets
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:13 PM
2

First, congratulations. It's hard to find girls who are willing to meet up reoccurringly like that. If I were you, I'd enjoy my time with this girl, eventually I would lay her but not discuss exclusivity. I would game on the side since according to you new ladies are coming into town. If she were to bring up being exclusive I'd assess my options then. Don't get too ahead of yourself though, just because new girls are coming into town doesn't mean that laying one them will be ez pz and you'll be …
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:13 PM
2

If you're not universally attractive, most girls won't give you indicators of interest, or if they do you may not notice them. That's why I just open whenever I see a girl that I want to talk to.
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:08 PM
1

First of all, how old are you and her. If you're young as in high school, she'll probably be awkward about the situation no matter how you spin it. Generally, you shouldn't be trying to figure out how to have longer conversations with a girl in class. You need to get her number and set up a date from there. Do you have her number? If you don't, make up an excuse to get, if you're in class ask her a question and then get her number and tell her it's so you can ask about anything else that you may…
/r/seduction02/02/15 10:02 PM
1

You met up for drinks and talked for an hour and half? Did you try to kiss her or hold her hand? If you didn't you already fucked up because you still don't know if she's interested in you, she could just see that as a friendly hang out. This seems like a bust, next time make a move on the first hang out. You need to know if the girl actually likes you or if she's just bullshitting around and wants to "hang out" and "just be friends"
/r/seduction02/02/15 09:55 PM
2

Okay sure, go for sushi. But personally, I wouldn't pay for her meal or any of her stuff until after sex. If you don't mind paying for his shit and risk not getting anything in return you can.
/r/seduction02/02/15 09:51 PM
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There's no secure way, there's only ways to boost your chances, some girls will remain dumb and oblivious so matter how obvious the circumstances are. With that said, once you get her number I would suggest asking her if she wants to come over after meeting up for a movie. If she says yes that's a green light. Proceed from there
/r/seduction02/02/15 02:44 PM
1

You're over thinking it. Gaming in NYC is like gaming anywhere else where there's a lot of people. Just spot out the girls you find attractive, catch up to them, and open. You can drink a little bit to loosen you up if you want to do a really high volume session, but I wouldn't make that a habit.
/r/seduction02/02/15 02:41 PM
1

You're needy as fuck. Wanna know why you think this way? Because you don't have other girls. If you had two other girls in your phone right now and you were talking to them, would you have texted this particular girl to hang out twice and then text a couple of days later saying that you miss her? Probably not. I wouldn't hold my breath with this one. Get more girls and get used to not getting attached until at least after sex
/r/seduction02/02/15 02:37 PM
2

Don't talk to her for a day or two. Ask her out immediately, she's probably already made up her mind about wanting to date you at this point. Don't waste time and find out sooner rather than later. Also, I do not recommend dinner
/r/seduction02/02/15 02:35 PM
1

What do you mean? During the day I do a little bit of kino during the initial pick up. Light touches and then hug or side hug at the end. I don't think that's enough though. I would have to go in for multiple hugs or something like that during the initial pickup to make it clear, and sometimes I can't always do that based on the situation. It won't help if I approach in a community such as a college campus too. Even then some girls are just dumb and don't get it. You still wouldn't recommend I a…
/r/seduction17/01/15 03:18 AM
1

Fuck it man, I may have problems, but this is how I really feel. I'm not gonna deny it. I'm gonna fully express that shit and I'm gonna act on it. Why I feel this way I don't know, but honestly I feel like what I'm doing about it can only help me
/r/seduction28/12/14 11:27 PM
1

I'll admit I am a little salty. I can't help it, I'm comparing myself too much. Maybe after a bit of exposure or with time I'll learn to stop being so salty about stuff like this. Like with all people there are problems or certain traits that aren't the ideal. In this example, I don't think I can tolerate these traits, not with what I'm getting out of this friendship anyway, just doesn't seem worth it even if sometimes his company is decent
/r/seduction28/12/14 10:50 PM
1

I understand what you're saying. Is my basis for not wanting to talk to him legitimate or am I just being sour? I honestly would rather not talk to him again based just on how he acts and the way he ambigiously describes his successes. You can never be sure if he's bullshitting or not and he never has any pictures or anything, it's just all the shit that he's saying. You're right, I shouldn't get upset about this. But honestly, I just don't want to turn this into a competetion. Like if I manage …
/r/seduction28/12/14 10:30 PM
2

Haven't even thought of this but this is excellent advice. Look at it all as practice. You don't want to pressure yourself at work to try and get a number or make a successful approach. Just practice. So have fun, spend that extra 5 minutes chatting, vibing, don't try to get a number. It's just practice so when you get off the clock you can really sarge
/r/seduction07/12/14 07:16 AM
1

I have the opposite problem. I don't like settling for less. I'm spoiled. Right now all I want is the best for myself, the best type of girl, the hottest type of girl. I wouldn't say I'm entitled to these girls, but I'm going to be honest in myself in that I know what I want, so it doesn't make sense for me to think that I don't deserve these girls.
/r/seduction07/12/14 07:12 AM
4

How many pictures do you have on your profile and what does your bio say? Right now I'm running 4 pictures. Do you only have 1 shirt less picture up and that's it?
/r/seduction27/09/14 04:09 AM
1

You shouldn't overthink texting, if the girl is interested in meeting up and you ask her out over text then she would reply. If she's not sure or she's not interested than she won't. If she says she's busy then just chill for a couple of days and ask again. If she still gives an excuse you can keep trying until she just stops texting but generally it's safe to assume that she's not interested at that point
/r/seduction25/09/14 01:44 PM
0

How many times have you texted her since her last response? If you only texted once I would text one more time spaced out 24-48 hours from your last text, in that text just be straight forward, pretend like she never ignored you, and ask to set up another date for a couple days later. If you've already texted twice and no reply then you're pretty much done, sorry
/r/seduction25/09/14 03:58 AM
3

It's okay to go home, cry and feel like shit after a bad night out or date. The emotional trauma will strengthen you once you recover
/r/seduction19/08/14 06:07 PM
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Neging is retarded
/r/seduction19/08/14 06:04 PM
1

Oh I'm actually no where near Montreal, I just wanted potential people to know how experienced you are
/r/seduction19/08/14 04:15 PM
1

When's the last time you've approached a girl on the street?
/r/seduction19/08/14 03:59 PM
1

How many girls have you approached on the street before?
/r/seduction19/08/14 03:15 PM
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If you didn't get girls in highschool, you probably won't get any in college if you're just starting out
/r/seduction19/08/14 07:14 AM
1

Currently trying this out right now
/r/seduction18/08/14 11:40 PM
1

There are two ways to do this, you can be 100% introspective and tell us what you said that you think might have turned her off. Or you could start recording your conversations. If you ask a girl what is it about your personality that she doesn't find attractive, she won't tell you an honest answer. Either because she can't describe it or she doesn't want to hurt your feelings. It's up to you to determine how what you're saying affects people. Maybe during the date you said something and noticed…
/r/seduction18/08/14 09:39 PM
1

Gaming a cashier or sales associate is over done though. Everyone always tries to do it. Every single guy in the store whose heard of game is gonna be hitting on her. I'm going under the impression that these guys just don't want to approach random girls so they try to go for "easier" sets by hitting on girls who work in stores
/r/seduction18/08/14 06:21 PM
1

Do you have your own place? Work out the logistics, where are going to be bringing girls to fuck? I've never been to Vegas but I heard it's really really easy to get a lay there
/r/seduction18/08/14 05:36 PM
1

I think what happened here is that during the date OP did something or said something that reflected his true personality and it turned her off. So all the initial interest was lost because she didn't turn out to be the type of guy she prefers for a long term relationship. Which led her to want to leave so she said you had to head to the reunion. I'll take it a step forward and say that she mentioned this reunion early on as a cop out in case the date didn't turn out how she expected, if it did …
/r/seduction18/08/14 05:06 PM
3

Tl;dr
/r/seduction18/08/14 07:31 AM
2

Did she text you? Also, be aware of the vibes you're giving off and how people are receiving them. You said you negged her but in reality you didn't have to. She could've just continued to talk to you because she didn't want you to think she was offended by your jokes or neg. Bottom line is though, it may be true that it's a store policy or it may not be. What I recommend though is that you try to approach girls who aren't working on the job. So many guys always wanna hit on the cashier or sales…
/r/seduction18/08/14 04:23 AM
2

Funny you should say that because I'm also half black and I am fairly dark
/r/seduction18/08/14 12:12 AM
1

I think you're basing this off of a couple of girls you've seen out. I'm half middle eastern myself and I've been on dates with white girls. Some white girls may avoid other minorities except for black and some won't. Personally I always thought white girls just stick with white guys and that's it
/r/seduction17/08/14 11:41 PM
1

Learn to make the best with the shit cards you've been dealt.
/r/seduction17/08/14 09:46 PM
-5

When am I gonna find a girl who wants a relationship with me, this life is a struggle
/r/seduction17/08/14 02:54 AM
3

Hey can you help me with a problem I'm having? I haven't been able to meet any girls who are interested enough to take things towards a relationship with me. Recently I was suppose to meet up with a girl and called earlier to sort out logistics but during the phone conversation it was completely boring and awkward. It sounded as if she was only talking to me because she felt she had to. Why is it that I ensue these shitty emotions in a girl and can't just get her to be attracted to me and want t…
/r/seduction17/08/14 02:16 AM
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This is very very luck based to be honest. I've had a similar situation expect that it wasn't instant but a last minute plan, almost like a booty call. I wasn't able to pull though because of logistics as well. But honestly this is all very luck based. Once in a while you'll meet a foreign girl who has to leave the country soon and is up for pretty much anything sexual. So once again, luck based. Oh and stop cheating on your girlfriend Matt
/r/seduction17/08/14 01:35 AM
11

You're reading way too into it. This type of game, especially during the day will come off as too try hard. You've just met her
/r/seduction16/08/14 08:09 PM
4

Yeah that doesn't always work. If the girl isn't interested she won't come, if she's in a rush she won't come as well. More like a luck factor here and the fact that he had some rapport
/r/seduction16/08/14 03:27 PM
4

It must have been super awkward when he was leaving and had to turn around again to walk down, so they would've had to make eye contact again lol Also, it seems like he's just running standard game. Props to him, a basic overview of what he did was open as usual (you're cute) and then transition into just questions back and forth. Finally he took the number. Honestly I'm not a fan of just going for the number, he should've tried to set up a date. She might've agreed to it too and bam they would …
/r/seduction16/08/14 03:25 PM
2

I say "Ey bby u wan sum fuk??" Works everytime
/r/seduction16/08/14 02:43 PM
1

That's the problem with dating. You have to go through the bullshit at first. If you're a guy and you take a girl out for a first date and got rejected on the kiss you'd feel disappointed. Then you'd try to meet up with her again but she doesn't return your texts or calls. So basically you just got flaked out on which may or may not be because you made a move to kiss her. And if it takes a while for attraction to generate for a girl, then a guy would have to go through the pain in the ass of inv…
/r/seduction16/08/14 05:21 AM
1

How were they going to extort him?
/r/seduction16/08/14 04:15 AM
10

The question to ask is: is this article a legit source. The last thing you want to do is ruin potential girls that you could get into relationships with just because they didn't accept a kiss on the first date. That's something to think about.
/r/seduction16/08/14 03:39 AM
4

Been there done that. Starbucks/park is probably the most standard date, I've been on those a fair share of times and while they are casual it's good to switch things up sometimes
/r/seduction16/08/14 03:34 AM
2

You sure about that? This article may be onto something but you might be dismissing some potential girls just because they don't accept a kiss on the first date
/r/seduction16/08/14 03:33 AM
0

I see. I honestly don't even feel like going, should I just not go? I have a feeling it's just gonna be lame, I wanna go after girls who are single and not have this boyfriend roadblock in the way. It's like I already lost the game before I could even play, so why would I even bother to progress things? Part of me feels like just bailing and not going, and instead go daygaming to meet other girls who are single. I facebook stalked and found her profile and she has no pics up of her with another …
/r/seduction16/08/14 02:16 AM
2

Pretty funny lol, so if you actually did do it they were gonna record it and put it on like pornhub?
/r/seduction15/08/14 03:15 PM
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The only way to counter this is to turn to the friends and talk to them once they step in. Try to include them for a couple of minutes by acknowledging them. If this doesn't work and they keep pulling the girl away, then well you can't really do much so just open other girls
/r/seduction15/08/14 03:09 PM
1

Congrats you're making fast progress. What I would text is "Hey __! Last night was fun, wanna meet up for coffee this week :) -(Name)". If you haven't texted her at all leave your name. Also it doesn't have to be coffee, could be anything. You don't wanna be too firm immediately. You wanna send something short and to the point to see if she'll actually reply, good luck
/r/seduction15/08/14 03:07 PM
1

What is your typical approach? Do you do daygame or clubs? How many girls are you approaching?
/r/seduction15/08/14 03:35 AM
1

Which countries are you having trouble with? Any asian countries?
/r/seduction15/08/14 03:12 AM
1

I don't know if they are low or if they are moderate. One thing for sure is that it is possible though. I don't know how it goes down because I've never accomplished a same night lay (most I've ever done was a day two lay that progressed into a short fling).
/r/seduction15/08/14 03:11 AM
1

For the day time try to set up a date with the girl during the interaction instead of just going for the number. For the night I think it's better to aim for a same night lay instead of planning for a day 2
/r/seduction15/08/14 01:45 AM
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Good luck. As much as I hate to admit it, being white will be an advantage for you, no sure by how much but it will be one. If I were going to japan id take that as an opportunity to bang as much Japanese girls as possible. Meaning going out to the most popular clubs in Tokyo every night. Make sure you have your logistics down. As far as game is concerned I heard that Japanese girls are very reserved. They probably wouldn't be use to direct game. That being said what I would try to do is go indi…
/r/seduction15/08/14 01:33 AM
1

Online dating will punish average guys and guys who are not white. This is the truth. Now that you know this, the best thing you can do is to ditch online dating. Honestly, I think it's a waste of time and gives false hope. What you should be doing is spending your efforts approaching girls in real life. Tell me, when's the last time you've opened a girl? Probably in a while. Most guys don't get initial interest from girls. I'm like you in that only a couple of girls in my life took immediate in…
/r/seduction14/08/14 05:48 PM
1

Pick a time in your schedule where you have 1-2 hours free to just go around and game. Surely you have time available to do this
/r/seduction14/08/14 04:58 PM
1

Just stop going after saleswomen, there are other girls out there who aren't trying to make a sale
/r/seduction14/08/14 04:51 PM
1

You have to ask yourself what exactly is gaming. Gaming could be to not act so interested to get her to chase. Or gaming could be to start creating fun and friendly vibes
/r/seduction14/08/14 04:03 PM
2

At that point I would stop running game. If she really was gaming you then the opportunities to pull would easily present themselves. Once you see them you just have to pull the trigger, which isn't really gaming
/r/seduction14/08/14 04:02 PM
1

I think you're reading way too into this. At the age of 17 friends just jokes around and for the most part aren't serious about what they say
/r/seduction14/08/14 03:52 PM
3

The basis doesn't change just because you have money and relocated. You still have to go to bars again, or out on the streets/anywhere to talk to girls. Still the same procedure and methods. That's why it's foolish for guys to think that they're not "ready" for girls and that they have to get everything down 100% before doing a single approach
/r/seduction14/08/14 03:43 PM
0

Honestly I'm not too hung up about this situation at all. I've been to house parties like these before so I know I'm not missing out. Also, $10 for a party like that is straight up ridiculous, if it was $5 I would have just handed it over like I intended to do so when I got there, but it wasn't, so I left.
/r/seduction14/08/14 04:24 AM
0

Sorry should I delete it?
/r/seduction14/08/14 03:44 AM
1

I linked the part that I was referring to
/r/seduction13/08/14 11:16 PM
2

True, very insightful. I'll go in with no expectations though so I don't get disappointed if nothing happens, but I'll definitely try to kino and escalate given the chance, and back off when met with resistance to avoid burning everything
/r/seduction13/08/14 07:35 PM
1

I think like that too sometimes but you want to avoid becoming arrogant. Sometimes I would just walk around my university and see all these chodes in shit relationships in which the guy just walks around and the girl trails behind him texting on her phone. It honestly looks pathetic and I'd rather be single than have a girlfriend like that. Most of the couples I see out and about on my campus seem to not have a sense of spark. Almost as if the two people are being together just because and not b…
/r/seduction13/08/14 12:36 PM
2

I can't go out at night because I'm not 21 yet so all my stories and tips on closing involve day game approaches that lead to first dates which leads to some sort of flaking in which I never see the girl again. Why aren't you comfortable taking drunk girls home? They're probably not even full out drunk, just tipsy which is expected if you've been having drinks for most of the night
/r/seduction13/08/14 06:32 AM
2

Why not try to pull that night? Normally I would suggest that you set up the firm date before taking a number but it seems like it would be different in a bar. You're both already there and flirting is encouraged in a bar. So why not forget about the number and just go for the pull
/r/seduction13/08/14 05:43 AM
1

You know how to shoot the shit? Just start talking about random shit. Tell her that after your nights out you usually head home to play league of legends and masturbate, but tonight you're bringing her home for sexy times. Say that and watch as she giggles, then continue to bring her home
/r/seduction13/08/14 05:41 AM
1

How'd you ask her out and what did she say?
/r/seduction13/08/14 05:39 AM
1

I need to go to one of their free tours
/r/seduction13/08/14 02:48 AM
1

This is an example of my manboy trantrums in set http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj6jt3Rme8Q&t=4m28s
/r/seduction13/08/14 02:10 AM
1

I always have manboy tantrums
/r/seduction13/08/14 01:36 AM
4

How was he exposed? Honestly I thought he was a straight up douche bag lol
/r/seduction12/08/14 10:15 PM
2

Try to talk to him, if you get a vibe that what he's saying is to just be nice and he's not actually interested in carrying a conversation then stop chatting and do your own thing. That should be a ground rule for everyone. As much as guys don't like to admit, they wouldn't fuck anything and everything. Me personally if an unattractive girl who I worked with started flirting with me/hitting on me when I clearly was NOT attracted, I would just give short replies to be friendly. In my mind though …
/r/seduction12/08/14 05:11 PM
2

Interesting, about how big would you say your tits are? If they are fairly large there's a good chance that he's interested
/r/seduction12/08/14 04:55 PM
2

... stop paying women to go on dates with you
/r/seduction12/08/14 04:35 PM
1

The more you read into it and the more you try to replicate it, the less it'll be the same and the less she'll like what you're trying to replicate
/r/seduction12/08/14 09:12 AM
2

You're definitely trying too hard. I honestly suggest that you don't listen and don't fully commit when someone, even your friends, tells you that a particular girl is interested. It's best to just acknowledge that fact that maybe she is and maybe something could arise from it. But the baseline for your game should still remain. And that is that you should just be going up to her, chatting, making conversation, trying to get her to chase a bit, doing some kino. It seems like you've tried all of …
/r/seduction12/08/14 09:10 AM
1

Ideally you should have set up the firm date during the initial interaction. If you couldn't accomplish that and plan to set up a date over text then well, good luck, because it'll be a lot more difficult. Oh and text your name in front of her right after you take her number
/r/seduction12/08/14 08:14 AM
1

Keep trying
/r/seduction12/08/14 08:13 AM
2

Why not just go to a public place where the girls aren't selling any products and gaming there?
/r/seduction12/08/14 07:02 AM
3

Cool, did you schedule a meet up through text yet?
/r/seduction12/08/14 05:19 AM
1

This is old. What ended up happening is I texted her the afternoon of the date to confirm, she replied back saying she had a boyfriend, lol'd
/r/seduction11/08/14 04:58 PM
1

Why does it matter if she snapchats you or not?
/r/seduction11/08/14 07:33 AM
1

I've experienced emotions that come in waves a lot. Sometimes I would go out and get destroyed and then end up feeling pretty crappy. But then a week later I would feel neutral if not better. At the moment the feeling of getting destroyed sucks so much, but it's all temporary. Eventually you'll be happy again
/r/seduction11/08/14 05:51 AM
1

It helps to be warmed up before you do it. After you've already approached a couple of girls for the day it is definitely feasible to present yourself to 2-3 girls in a set
/r/seduction11/08/14 05:12 AM
3

Here, I'll give you some legit advice. What you wanna do is include the girls in the conversation. No one likes to feel left out, and if you do leave out the friends then they will naturally want to leave. And naturally the girl will listen to the friends and they all will end up leaving. What you want to do is talk to the whole group first. Introduce yourself, ask for their names, just chat up with everyone for a couple of seconds, make it known that you're not signalling anyone out. Eventually…
/r/seduction11/08/14 03:01 AM
1

If there's one thing you can be sure of it's this: what you're feeling right now is temporary. That pain, that loss of confidence, all of it will subdue within time. Just take some time to relax and do other shit, eventually you'll regain your confidence to go out and try again
/r/seduction11/08/14 02:54 AM
1

Nope, I would see 1 or 2 girls at the same bookstore I would go to on and off and sometimes just chat them up again, but I can tell they'd rather not have me there. Honestly, the only reason I would still go up to them another time is because I'm not 100% that I already opened them, otherwise I would just do my own thing
/r/seduction10/08/14 11:12 PM
1

"gone full retard" lol'd
/r/seduction10/08/14 11:10 PM
1

Um, this is what you do. First, clear your mind. After you read this you're going to pretend that all of this never happened. After you do that I want you to turn off your computer, go outside, and talk to another girl.
/r/seduction10/08/14 07:29 PM
1

Props. Honestly I would just go and dance my ass off and talk to everyone, you don't know anyone there so you shouldn't care about them judging you, enjoy
/r/seduction10/08/14 07:27 PM
-2

Congrats for getting tinder dates lol, I literally don't have the patience to swipe all day and have 1 fat/ugly chick like me back rofl
/r/seduction10/08/14 06:52 PM
2

I would think big cities, more opportunities. Small cities would honestly blow... that's what happened back in the day in tribes. All the guys were afraid to make a move on the 10-20 attractive girls in the entire tribe because they knew that if they fucked up they would never get laid for the rest of their life lol... you don't want that now do you?
/r/seduction10/08/14 06:41 PM
2

This sounds awesome, I wish I could have an experience like this one day
/r/seduction10/08/14 06:38 PM
6

I think you meant to write this on your other account
/r/seduction10/08/14 06:37 PM
1

Chances are, she's not the girl you're making her out to be. So no, she wasn't a 10. What should you have done? You should have done the same thing you would do when you see an attractive girl, say any opener and follow up from there. That could be, "hey I liked your shirt and wanted to say hi, what're you up to?".
/r/seduction10/08/14 07:22 AM
1

Didn't they have brothels back then? I thought every guy would just go to the brothels and fuck a couple of whores after a long day of work and then go back to doing other shit. Sexual frustration for men was definitely not as common back in the day then it is now
/r/seduction10/08/14 07:19 AM
1

I am bitter
/r/seduction10/08/14 06:35 AM
1

I'm sorry but those are just my preferences. I'm part black but I don't find black women attractive at all. The world is a cruel place we all live in
/r/seduction10/08/14 05:24 AM
-2

When I do tinder seriously (swipe like for attractive girls so basically no blacks, no indians) I get 0 matches. And this is why tinder is a waste of time
/r/seduction10/08/14 04:06 AM
1

I'm not sure if the starcraft analogy works. Personally I've played starcraft 2 and was diamond terran close to when the game was released. The problem here is that most of the time in starcraft you can scout and react to what your opponent is doing. In pick up, you can't scout a girls intentions and prepare lines/banter/whatever in advance so you don't get thrown off guard. This is because you don't know exactly what the girl's intentions are. Sure you can make inferences and assumptions but th…
/r/seduction09/08/14 10:39 PM
1

See if the type of people coming would be down for a game that involves touch. This is so so key. If they are down to earth people there's a good chance that they'll be up for it. I remember one party I went to in high school we all played a game where everyone picks a card and a random chosen person beforehand doesn't get a card, instead they get to pick out two random numbers and then tell those two people to do something. A fuckton of things ended up happening, people swapping clothes (most l…
/r/seduction09/08/14 08:26 PM
2

I don't know about you, but every girl on there swipes no for me except for the bots, prostitutes and fat/ugly black girls. From this I've concluded that tinder is a waste of time
/r/seduction09/08/14 08:11 PM
1

Talk to girls everywhere, especially hot ones
/r/seduction09/08/14 02:12 PM
0

I'm actually REALLY curious about this. I work at retail and when I'm ringing up girls some look really cute and I would think that if I wasn't working I would definitely chat them up. But I don't do it while ringing because it feels unprofessional and I don't wanna risk my job or something. The other day though I saw a ghetto black co-worker talk to a girl as she was leaving being like "lemme take you out" and she ended up taking his number. So I'm not sure if I'm just being a little bitch or i…
/r/seduction09/08/14 01:53 PM
5

Tl;dr: You're making excuses. ALWAYS be chatting up cute girls when you get the opportunity to
/r/seduction09/08/14 01:49 PM
1

Um, you're too beta to do anything and you're acting like a bitch. She INVITED you over? That's a green light, should've put an arm over her and pulled her in to make out
/r/seduction09/08/14 07:47 AM
1

You know how to suck dick, that's what you know how to do
/r/seduction09/08/14 06:44 AM
1

Shot term goal: to meet a girl and have it last long enough up to the second date
/r/seduction09/08/14 04:08 AM
40

WINS: Work out, Image, Nutrition, Shut the fuck up Are you following it?
/r/seduction09/08/14 04:03 AM
2

I tell them I'm the best Zed NA and their panties drop
/r/seduction09/08/14 03:52 AM
3

On open I tell girls I play league of legends, and they go on insta dates with me. I'm srs
/r/seduction09/08/14 03:45 AM
3

Why do you need tinder in college man? Just go out. There are girls everywhere, what's the fun in swiping behind a phone when you can literally go out and interact with a ton of girls face to face
/r/seduction09/08/14 03:44 AM
5

I like to compare dating to an MMO like WoW or Diablo. It's like farming for a rare item that only drops like 0.01% of the time. So you have to kill thousands of the same monster before you finally get the drop. That's like dating, you have to go through a bunch of girls before something actually happens. The grind is real
/r/seduction09/08/14 03:23 AM
1

Sansa is okay, I'd also do Margaery, the chick who married Joffery. She looks incredibly hot http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130531092528/gameofthrones/images/5/55/Margaery_tyrell_infobox.png I'd feel pretty sophisticated if I could have sex with a girl like that
/r/seduction08/08/14 06:13 PM
1

I also wanna fuck cersei, just for the experience y'know, fucking a woman that dominating. Also, she's pretty hot https://theironcaptain.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/cersei-lannister-game-of-thrones-33804391-1024-576.jpg
/r/seduction08/08/14 05:25 PM
0

eff you
/r/seduction08/08/14 05:02 PM
1

She's hot tho
/r/seduction08/08/14 05:02 PM
0

I have a serious case of yellow fever, yet I haven't been successful lately, so I hate you, eff you
/r/seduction08/08/14 03:33 AM
-5

That doesn't mean anything though. The last time I met up with someone from this subreddit they said they wanted to go halves on approaches, they seemed like they were intermediate and would have no problem chatting up girls. When I met up with him he didn't talk to a single girl while I opened like 5. I have a feeling you're like that guy
/r/seduction07/08/14 11:04 PM
-4

How experienced are you? And no I'm not in Vegas
/r/seduction07/08/14 08:42 PM
3

Bare minimum of 100? I'm betting that at least half of this sub reddit doesn't have that
/r/seduction07/08/14 01:05 PM
0

I think half of what I post is for comedy and the other half is me trying to actually get laid
/r/seduction07/08/14 01:03 PM
2

Thanks, my dedication comes and goes. Most of what keeps me going is just the thought that if I want to have any sex or a relationship in the future I have to be making an active attempt to meet new girls, otherwise I might as well just be masturbating for an indefinite amount of time.
/r/seduction07/08/14 06:57 AM
1

Yeah I figured it'll be rough. When I texted her right there I texted her with my name. Hopefully things go well
/r/seduction07/08/14 02:30 AM
0

What is your honest opinion on my posts/advice?
/r/seduction06/08/14 11:28 PM
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Sounds awesome, when did all this happen? I think during that time period I was either playing league of legends or masturbating, one or the other
/r/seduction06/08/14 10:51 PM
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Your mindset is messed up... Seriously just stop with all the excuses, stop thinking and talking and just go outside and talk to girls. The more you think the more your cancerous mindset is going to overtake you. You keep saying you're a minority, I told you, follow WINS. You're not listening to us, you keep making up excuses. Just believe in yourself and start talking to girls. Once you've opened 1 or 2 girls come back and write a FR and we'll give you even more help on what you did wrong and w…
/r/seduction06/08/14 07:26 PM
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One girl I approached was so shocked because guys walking up to her to talk has never happened to her ever. I said to her, this is the first time ever? And I think she mumbled a yes, lol
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:30 PM
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Sounds awesome, just tell your friends to invite anyone and everyone BUT mostly target girls, put an emphasis on that. Tell them to invite more girls than guys. Make sure you have alcohol, have everyone play drinking games that involve some sort of touch, or truth or dare sex edition (you must have more girls than guys for this). The last thing you need to do is send me an invite so I can bring more girls and alcohol. If you don't have more girls than guys at your party though then I wouldn't ha…
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:28 PM
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That doesn't sound well thought out... everyone is usually excited to go to a party, he probably didn't advertise it well
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:24 PM
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Creepy af
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:05 PM
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If there's one thing I can't stand it's loud and barbaric black people. Props to you for rising above this stereotype.
/r/seduction06/08/14 09:52 AM
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I understand the "be cool" mode that you speak of. I picture it being just agreeing with whatever the girl is saying as casually as possible "yeah, oh really? cool, me too". Guys do this because they are so nervous about fucking up that they don't want to say anything controversial and possibly lose the girl. To counter this, you have to not give any fucks whether you lose the girl or not
/r/seduction06/08/14 09:49 AM
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Fuck bitches, acquire more money
/r/seduction06/08/14 09:45 AM
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Possibly, OP should just ask her out anyway and see what happens
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:40 AM
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Props to you for still sticking around with that original girl even though your friend apparently hit it off with her. Your friend was a girl right? Honestly, I started re thinking my friendship when my friend pretty much started inviting this girl everywhere when she knew I got rejected right on the "date" and that I didn't wanna be around her. I feel like I made a great decision by deciding to not spend time with either of them.
/r/seduction06/08/14 06:39 AM
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I don't think she's interested in you. If she was, then she clearly wouldn't tell you that because she wouldn't want to shake your confidence if she wanted you to ask her out. You can still ask her out if you want to though, just don't be surprised if she says no
/r/seduction06/08/14 04:42 AM
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Who was the guy? Boyfriend? Orbiter? If the conversation is going stale then don't be afraid to just head back to your friends and re engage later on. As someone said, it's okay to eject when you sense that things are dying down. Another thing you could've done was sat down next to the one you were interested in. Was there an open seat next to them? Perhaps pull one up and feel welcomed, then proceed with kino after you got the acceptance of the group, or maybe try to isolate the girl you're int…
/r/seduction06/08/14 04:40 AM
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Wasn't really fear that caused me to cut her off. My thinking was, okay so she doesn't want to date me for whatever reason, so I don't want to be her friend for whatever reason. Also she didn't have any super hot friends at the time, she actually was a freshman and basically took my friends/social circle
/r/seduction06/08/14 01:16 AM
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I see, what do you mean by snubbed? This situation is even more similar to mine because the girl started hanging around my social circle a lot more after that failed date. My friends knew about it and one friend in particular decided to invite her to pretty much every hang out our friend group had. I tried to make things work but eventually I got fed up and annoyed for certain reasons so I just stopped talking to that friend who for some reason seemed so interested in the girl who rejected me (t…
/r/seduction06/08/14 01:12 AM
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Lol do you know what a phone is?
/r/seduction06/08/14 12:59 AM
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At least I don't pay girls to go on dates with me, grow some hair buddy
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:14 PM
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What I say is honest and consistent. What you say is bullshit and used to simply market, stop paying girls to go on dates with you, loser
/r/seduction05/08/14 10:13 PM
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I understand how you feel when you're interested in a girl and all of a sudden she drops the boyfriend word on you, it leaves you with a sour taste in your mouth. A similar situation happened to me that caused me to resent the girl. At the start of the year I met this girl who was fairly attractive and I knew from the start that I wanted to get to know her and possibly start a relationship. I immediately took the chance to ask her out, it was over facebook because we didn't have similar classes,…
/r/seduction05/08/14 05:35 PM
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Here's a good tip you should remember that helped me get a lot more first dates: always set up the firm date during the interaction. So don't go for the number, tell her towards the end that she seems pretty cool and ask if she wants to get coffee. I find it better to make it into a question instead of just assuming you guys are going out. The key here is you want her to make a firm agreement to go out with you. If she agrees then ask for her schedule and set it up for a certain day and time. Ta…
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:53 PM
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You are oh so wrong. I've gone on several dates where the interactions have lasted less than 30 minutes
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:51 PM
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Don't listen to him, I've date closed girls on street before while only interacting between 5-10 minutes
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:50 PM
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Physically attractive women are not harder to talk to. When I see a hot girl walking down the street or anywhere really I immediately think "alright how am I opening her". You should want to be talking to these hot girls, you should want to rise above the chodes and actually have some sort of chance with her by just talking to her. That's what I do anyway; it's very rare for me to pass up an opportunity to open a really physically attractive girl
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:48 PM
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Wow you're around LA? Watch RSD and start going to clubs 3-4 nights a week. From what I've seen there are a lot of hot girls in LA that are pretty much down to do anything with any guy so long as he opens
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:45 PM
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Nothing to do with race. Were they jacked and tall? That could have played a role
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:43 PM
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Lol, how much kino have you done so far
/r/seduction05/08/14 06:57 AM
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Move on, there are OTHER girls out there. You need to realize that you have options, she isn't the one girl and only girl you'll have a chance with in the world, you need to understand that you have options and choices when it comes to girls
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:49 AM
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Accept it now OP, submit to the reality, face it
/r/seduction05/08/14 04:47 AM
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I did two approaches and now I'm just going home cause I want to go to the gym before it closes
/r/seduction04/08/14 09:43 PM
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This isn't a seduction question, this is a friendship question, which should be very easy. If you're in a situation where you'll frequently see the same girls again (school, work, activities) becoming friends with them would be incredibly easy. Girls love to make new friends
/r/seduction04/08/14 08:39 PM
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How to approach more? Just walk up to more girls and say your opener. That's the only practical advice that we can give you
/r/seduction04/08/14 08:37 PM
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You have to want to change, if you don't want to change and want to dwell on your genetic misfortunes then you will fail, that's what you want to hear though right? That you will fail?
/r/seduction04/08/14 08:35 PM
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Heard RSD tyler say this
/r/seduction04/08/14 06:29 PM
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How did this go?
/r/seduction04/08/14 05:55 PM
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...what?
/r/seduction04/08/14 05:03 PM
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Go up to some hot girls laying out for a tan and whip out your dick
/r/seduction04/08/14 08:42 AM
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Frat parties should be easier. I remember when I was a freshmen though I didn't focus on getting laid at all at parties, I just drank a fuckton, got buzzed and just went crazy on the dance floor. If you have good game and know what you're doing you should definitely see more success at frat parties granted there's a good amount of girls there
/r/seduction04/08/14 08:41 AM
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Meh, you're over exaggerating a bit. Depending on the college you go to most of the girls there might not be dtf. And just because most are, the pressure will be on for a guy to get laid so he may get more anxiety and thus pass up several opportunities
/r/seduction04/08/14 08:38 AM
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Good luck, I'm heading out tomorrow as well for a couple of hours to just do some approaches. Also, setting a goal like 10 numbers isn't exactly good, you should be having fun while you do this. Don't expect anything magical to happen even if you do get 10 numbers though. This is a journey and you're probably going to be failing several times before you see any sparks, doesn't mean you should give up though, just enjoy the process and have fun so that you wouldn't want to give up
/r/seduction04/08/14 06:52 AM
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I don't have expertise. I haven't gotten laid in over a year and all my dates in the past 3 months have led to no where, except for maybe one but that was a strange situation.
/r/seduction03/08/14 11:02 PM
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This is not validating yourself off of women. This is called building momentum and getting positive reference experiences. What you say is bullshit, you don't give examples on how someone can gain confidence to approach, you just talk out of your ass hole without any practical advice, which is what a lot of people tend to do. Me on the other hand give practical advice that can benefit OP.
/r/seduction03/08/14 10:55 PM
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Unfortunately at my college it wasn't easy mode, had a sexless first year
/r/seduction03/08/14 10:07 PM
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You are incorrect, the way you build confidence and inner game is by getting experience out in the field. Your little successes will make you realize that you can get girls and that you do have a chance. Approaching will further your inner game, the baseline inner game that you need to know can be learned within a day
/r/seduction03/08/14 09:24 PM
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I like to masturbate, so I will continue to masturbate
/r/seduction03/08/14 09:15 PM
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Who cares, you can't change being black, just suck your shit up and deal with it. Heard this from RSD but follow WINS: Work out, Image (shower daily, good fashion, wash face daily), Nutrition, and finally Shut the fuck up. So follow those 3 aspects and once you've got them nailed down and solid just shut the fuck up, let it go, and start working on your inner game/confidence by approaching girls. Understand?
/r/seduction03/08/14 06:32 PM
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Yeah I'm part black and I've been making some progress, you have to hustle for it, nothing in this world comes free
/r/seduction03/08/14 06:14 PM
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/r/seduction can cure you, if you want it to EDIT: I went through your post history, please don't do some elliot rodger shit, if you learn pick up you can change. Also, I saw your picture, you needa chill though. You've taken foreveralone shit waaay too seriously. You need to like completely rewire your brain and convince yourself that there is hope and that you can get girls, no more excuses
/r/seduction03/08/14 05:48 PM
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I wanna fuck Daenerys Targaryen
/r/seduction03/08/14 04:47 PM
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Ummm, you couldn't just walk outside to a corner store and buy one? You know that she is now most likely pregnant right, and if you caught an STD like HIV or herpes you can pretty much say bye bye to your entire life, is one night of sex really worth that much
/r/seduction03/08/14 04:46 PM
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I see, I don't wanna say that all the dates I've been on I felt no sparks with the girls; there were definitely some that I wouldn't have mind progressing forward. What do you think I could do to increase the chances of me sparking something in the girl? I feel unlucky for going through so many dates and not sparking anything in one of them
/r/seduction03/08/14 04:39 PM
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There's probably gonna be dozens of parties first week of school, probably first day actually lol. I'm willing to bet that 80% of the girls going to the parties are incredibly thirsty. Meaning they'd probably just hook up with anyone and anything just to get it over with, pretty much it's pick up but easy mode
/r/seduction03/08/14 04:09 PM
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Rutgers new brunswick? Have fun, it's crazy there
/r/seduction03/08/14 04:22 AM
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Getting them off cold approach anywhere really. Coffee shops, parks, book stores. On the dates I'm just keeping my usual fun and chatty vibe. Not really sure what's up, after so many dates I'd figure I would have chemistry with one so it must be what I'm not doing or what I am doing on these dates, I just don't know what.
/r/seduction03/08/14 04:01 AM
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I guess that's a start. I'm disappointed right now though because I recently went on a date and as usual the girl just goes radio silent after the first date. It's lame that I can't progress things forward. I sent her a text the night after the date inviting her out for Sunday. The next day I woke up and got no reply so i sent a text at like 2 saying "hey __, up for Sunday afternoon or nahh?". 6 hours later and no reply, so I text one last time "aw, that a no? =/". I don't understand the radio s…
/r/seduction03/08/14 01:11 AM
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You're instilling a lot of limiting beliefs onto yourself. You're 6 foot 3, you already have a gigantic advantage. What you need to start doing is work on your mindset. Start working out and doing the best you can to fight your acne (wash face everyday, shower everyday, get enough sleep). Once you do these things and you start getting in shape you'll start to feel good about yourself. This will boost your confidence and allow you to truly believe that you can get the girls you want because of ho…
/r/seduction02/08/14 06:07 PM
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I don't understand women who dress provocatively and then complain about guys looking at them. Did it ever occur to her that there is a chance some guys will stare? Staring is fine but "cat calling" and doing retarded shit like in the video is just stupid, the least these guys could do is make a solid approach
/r/seduction02/08/14 04:22 PM
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Awesome, I texted her last night inviting her out for sunday, got no reply yet. I'm thinking about texting again in a couple of hours with something like "hey ___, up for tomorrow afternoon or nahh?" I think this shows that I'm leaving the choice up to her and that I have options/I'm not all too worried if she declines, good idea?
/r/seduction02/08/14 03:57 PM
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Do you think she'll become aroused if my hand is on her thigh and perhaps moves a bit farther up?
/r/seduction02/08/14 03:08 PM
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Congrats, I'm attracted to asian girls too, but most of the time I fail at keeping them interested. Recently I've been branching out to white girls
/r/seduction02/08/14 05:12 AM
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Um, all the girls in that video are girls that I would never in my life want to pick up, not sure what kind of gentlemen on the street are targeting these girls. Also, I think the men of seddit are more civilized then the homeless and street thugs
/r/seduction02/08/14 04:39 AM
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Funny how this post is getting up votes when there's so much rage and toxicity in it
/r/seduction02/08/14 03:41 AM
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That's you though, for a guy like me tinder doesn't work. Almost all of the girls I'm attracted to are maybe girls, maybe girls will not swipe yes to you on tinder
/r/seduction01/08/14 08:40 PM
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What about hand resting on her thigh? If there was no bench separation I could have definitely ramped things up. And I was a little bit cutesy with the dog, not overly, it just kind of happened because her dog did look pretty cute. Also, I'm gonna text her tonight, possibly responses would be she's not interested in meeting up again, she is, or the boyfriend line. Tonight I'll find out which one it is
/r/seduction01/08/14 08:39 PM
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So if I want a relationship the goal should be to not worry about kino like kissing and hand holding on the first date, and perhaps save those things for later dates? And the place has to be viable? The park wasn't that busy by the way... a lot of couples were actually out holding hands as well. I'm going on another date tonight with a different girl and I honestly just want to have sex with her. So as you said, I should just be as physical as possible without being pushy? I'll try to go for the…
/r/seduction01/08/14 05:10 PM
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What are your thoughts of taking a girl to a park that has a relationship-y vibe after the date? Is that too much? I wanna switch up the places I go to post date. Also, what are your thoughts on if I was sitting next to the girl, and I decided to move in closer to her and then I rest my hand on one of her thighs that are closest to me, is that good kino? I think at that point I would just go for the kiss instead of hand holding. I just like to ramp up the kino in some way while walking instead o…
/r/seduction01/08/14 04:44 PM
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What should I do instead then? I would always try to just go for the kiss first but the problem is being able to find a place to sit. It's difficult to just be walking around and all of a sudden kiss her. That's why I like to do some hand holding so if I want to change up directions I can just take her hand and guide her a bit and then let go. Just to see her compliance on if she'd let me do it. But if you're saying I should kiss first then I have to do a ton of incidental kino leading up to it …
/r/seduction01/08/14 04:28 PM
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Setting up 2-3 first dates a week is a high number. Dates don't just come in like that, OP probably has more than enough time to spend with girls. I don't think it's about OP deciding to hang out more with these girls, it's them deciding if they want to hang out with OP. If they are turning away from his kiss attempts then why would they even want to meet up again? Obviously they don't feel that way about OP so he wouldn't be wasting time on these girls anyway if they're not giving him a second …
/r/seduction01/08/14 10:09 AM
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Why can't he just keep this girl on the side as he pursues other girls? I've burned bridges in the past; I want to try something different. If I were OP I'd just keep her on the side and whenever I feel like doing fun things but wanna have a girl along I could invite her. I could also be out dating other girls while I'm dating this one. Why burn the bridges?
/r/seduction01/08/14 09:22 AM
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You are incorrect. Some girls are shy and would rather hold off on a kiss until a second date or third date. This is especially correct for "maybe" girls. I don't know about you, but a majority of the girls I encounter are "maybe" girls. The girls that give me an automatic yes and are dtf are girls that for the most part I am not attracted to. Sometimes the girl isn't ready. I think the best course of action is to continue meeting up as long as she knows the context of what you're doing is datin…
/r/seduction01/08/14 06:34 AM
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I didn't really mind the dog at all. And I wasn't in my head. I don't know how my intentions were unclear though, isn't inviting a girl out for froyo 1 on 1 clear enough?
/r/seduction01/08/14 05:59 AM
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I have to escalate some how right? My thinking is that hand holding while walking is the least emotional thing. Kissing her obviously will spark a lot more emotions. Same with sex. So what you're saying is I should stick to subtle kino?
/r/seduction01/08/14 05:58 AM
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Don't sweat it. I rarely get a kiss at the end of first dates as well. Are you doing some kino before the kiss though? Have you tried holding her hand or getting closer to her as you two are sitting down? Try things like this during the date to gauge her interest, see if she's accepting these things or not. If she isn't then you will know not to go for the kiss and try to set up a day 2. Also, you don't have to kiss at the end, I think it's better to just kiss when it feels right, as in you've a…
/r/seduction01/08/14 02:51 AM
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Could you hook me up with possible benefits at modeling agencies or possible clubs?
/r/seduction01/08/14 01:45 AM
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You're a female model?
/r/seduction01/08/14 01:26 AM
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I remember I was out approaching girls and it got late into the night but I still kept going around anyway. One girl got creeped out though and literally speed walked away from me right into her house and slammed the door shut. I felt like some criminal/rapist. So I went home and I cried myself to sleep that night, this is a true story
/r/seduction31/07/14 05:55 AM
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Maybe, there's nothing wrong with going to clubs alone with the intent of picking up women though, I'm assuming most guys here would be doing that
/r/seduction31/07/14 05:50 AM
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If this were true, nightclubs would become a lot more deceiving and lose value as a place to pick up girls
/r/seduction31/07/14 05:42 AM
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I heard picking up korean girls is hard as fuck for foreigners. There was a good long post about it on a pua forum but I don't remember what forum
/r/seduction30/07/14 04:34 PM
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I'm sorry
/r/seduction30/07/14 02:05 AM
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Good job, always interesting and cool to see some asian folk doing pickup
/r/seduction30/07/14 12:54 AM
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I need to have a good go to reply for "do you do this often" because I'm obviously going to run into more girls who like to bring this up I should learn to not be reluctant to leave set if it seems like I'm jumping through a bunch of hoops; if it sounds like I'm just standing there trying to convince the girl to go out with me, I feel like it's best I should just leave. I wanna say that maybe I can learn to screen when I can kino but something like that is so fluctuating, all I did was slide a b…
/r/seduction29/07/14 11:44 PM
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I wrote this when I was angry. I've gotten dates before. I actually kind of regret deleting that girl's number because it might have been worth a shot to text her and maybe set something up. This thought just hit me full force in the face when a couple of minutes ago I decided to hit up another girl who showed initial interest in me but didn't reply to my last text. I was like fuck it and sent another one asking if she was free, she replied and we managed to work something out for thursday at 8.…
/r/seduction29/07/14 11:39 PM
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Out of all the replies to that post, your's is the most worthless. Congratulations
/r/seduction29/07/14 11:10 PM
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I don't think I was doing anything differently... seems to me like I was just approaching how I usually have been doing in the past. Yes these conflicting thoughts do stem from the responses that I have recieved today. It's not just today though, I went on a date with another girl from this campus about a week ago and she asked me the SAME thing "do you do this often?". I have no idea what is up with this campus but almost all the girls here think it's weird/they have a tendency to question if I…
/r/seduction29/07/14 11:08 PM
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Because I got destroyed today and I feel sad. And now I don't know how to solve my problems and I'm worried for the future
/r/seduction29/07/14 10:56 PM
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I'm looking more for a girlfriend. It was a really weird situation for me. I only approached 2 girls today and the first one reacted kind of similar to this girl, this usually doesn't happen to me. Most of the time the girls are nice about it. Maybe I just had shit luck today? I don't know, all I know is that after this event I got really screwed over mentally and just decided to go home. I'm also having conflicting and doubting thoughts floating around in my head that are damaging me, making it…
/r/seduction29/07/14 10:49 PM
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First of all, I don't even go to this college so I give no fucks. Second of all, you are useless to this community because what you've written means nothing and has no detail. I was weird and unattractive? Wow that is so insightful. If you think chatting up girls on campus is weird and unattractive then you are sheltered, go outside
/r/seduction29/07/14 10:04 PM
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I've approached group girls. I don't have solid advice though because I don't approach them often, only once in a while. You said you don't want a 'this one time' story but I'll give you one anyway. This one time I was in CVS and I saw a cute girl, I didn't realize she was with a friend in the store cause she was just alone in an asile. So I say something situational like, do you think I should get orange juice or grape juice today? Something bullshitty like that, she responds and then I open wi…
/r/seduction29/07/14 07:02 PM
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Yeah you're over thinking it. If your room mates are cool guys and you happen to run into them in the house if you bring a girl over just casually introduce and bounce right after, no need to stick around for like 5 minutes and talk about meaningless bullshit
/r/seduction29/07/14 06:57 PM
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Yeah um, don't cold approach
/r/seduction29/07/14 06:55 PM
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Contrary to what a lot of what people are saying here, don't blow the whole college freshman thing out of proportion. Are you going to a big school or small school? Is it state school or is it a rigorous school? Depending on these factors getting girls won't be as easy as a lot of people here are saying. I'm going to a small private school so for my freshman year of college you could not go around and cold approach otherwise half the attractive girls would know you within a week. You need to adj…
/r/seduction29/07/14 03:23 PM
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Maybe
/r/seduction29/07/14 12:35 AM
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The mental masturbation is strong with this one
/r/seduction28/07/14 11:39 PM
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This is totally viable and I would definitely use this if there was a cute girl by the melons section. I would literally just be like "nice melons"
/r/seduction28/07/14 11:38 PM
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She didn't text me back at all. She probably wants me to fuck off. It's k, as you can tell from this FR I wasn't exactly excited about meeting up
/r/seduction28/07/14 11:35 PM
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Stop bullshitting around. Honestly, don't even bother working out, your mindset is shit. You're not suppose to work out purely to attract girls, you work out because it makes you feel good and keeps you in shape. You think way too much on just getting girls. Working out and fitness are other areas of your life. You clearly don't appreciate what working out can do for your body so just don't work out then. Be out of shape and not healthy, your choice
/r/seduction28/07/14 08:42 PM
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I unfriended a girl on facebook who I asked out a while ago but she had a boyfriend. After I found this out she started hanging out a lot with my friends but I didn't give any fucks, so when the summer vacation came around I just said fuck it yolo and unfriended her, best decision ever.
/r/seduction28/07/14 05:06 PM
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My first cold approach was at a mall. I'll never forget it, remember it so clearly. I was in line for froyo and there was a girl in front of me. I wanted to talk to her but I was bitching out too much. I was stuck in my head and my anxiety grew the longer I didn't do anything. My anxiety was so intense, but finally all of a sudden I just turned towards her and said I thought she was gorgeous and I wanted to talk to her. She said she had a boyfriend, got her froyo, and walked off. I remember as I…
/r/seduction28/07/14 05:03 PM
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Sounds lame, don't do it
/r/seduction28/07/14 02:36 PM
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You shouldn't care if others see you fail, just embrace and own up to it. Fuck the haters
/r/seduction28/07/14 05:07 AM
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For guys struggling with AA it's just one of those things you have to do. AA goes away with time, I've done so many approaches that most of the time I feel 0 AA if I'm going up to an individual girl to chat wherever it may be. Keep it up and you'll get to that point, it feels awesome being able to walk up to random girls anywhere and introducing yourself no matter how hot they are
/r/seduction28/07/14 04:55 AM
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First of all, it's not true that if you stop wanting a girlfriend you'll all of a sudden magically get one. Doesn't work that way, even if you convince yourself that you don't want one and you truly believe it, a girl will not just come strolling along and jump on your dick. Secondly, you can't compare relationships to food because you don't need a relationship to survive. As much as you'd like to believe it, you don't need a relationship or sex for that matter to continue living. You think you …
/r/seduction28/07/14 04:30 AM
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This is a problem I'm running into as well after the first date. What I've been doing is after each date I just don't send any texts at all. You want to keep your texts to a minimum. If the first date went well the girl should have given you some openings towards the end of it, as in "I'm free tomorrow" or something like that. If she gave you no openings and her schedule seems packed with events/excuses I would just not text her at all and move on to other girls
/r/seduction28/07/14 02:50 AM
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Go outside, find some cute girls, walk up to them and talk to them
/r/seduction28/07/14 02:48 AM
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Your mindset is all weird and fucked up. No offense. I'm not sure what you're trying to ask though, you want to pick up girls at a restaurant? Sure you can give it a try but if they're in a group of 4 sitting down and eating your chance of setting up a date with one of them is not high at all given the circumstances. When you haven't even thought about the practicability of what you're asking I can only assume that you have no idea what you are looking for and what you want. If that's the case, …
/r/seduction28/07/14 02:47 AM
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Yeah if she doesn't reply back I don't mind, I wasn't all too excited about it at all. I have a feeling she will reply though, she's been considerate about the situation so far and she's been receptive, if she doesn't reply back that would boggle me as another one of my sets that have went well but led nowhere
/r/seduction28/07/14 02:42 AM
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Here is the update: I texted her this afternoon confirming for tonight at 6 at the coffee shop. She texted me an hour and a half later telling me that she was driving back from Ohio because she picked up her dog and that she's hitting traffic, she said she probably won't be able to make it back in time and she wanted to reschedule. Her excuse seemed legit and written out so I was just like, haha alright sure when's good, and I told her tomorrow I'm working part of the day and tuesday i'm mostly …
/r/seduction28/07/14 02:29 AM
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Um, just go low key and indirect. Also, if you do manage to go on a date with a girl there and her father finds out he'd probably ass fuck you
/r/seduction28/07/14 01:56 AM
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Yes my logic is correct because we are TYPING. If you didn't realize, speaking is faster than typing so to save time and energy I keep it short
/r/seduction27/07/14 10:36 PM
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Yeah, look at my situation. I went on a date with a girl on Monday last week and towards the end she tells me she's planning for her trip to New York on Friday. I asked when she plans to come back and she's like Tuesday or Wednesday. In my mind I'm thinking "lolk bye" and haven't texted her at all since the date. What have I been doing instead? I've been talking to other girls and completely forgot about her. Because I don't have time to sit around for a week with my dick in my hands waiting for…
/r/seduction27/07/14 09:03 PM
1

You're traveling for a month? She wants to get laid now dude, she's probably thinking "okay f this guy, he's gonna be jerking his dick for a month in europe, better find another guy whose dtf" and decided to block you. True story
/r/seduction27/07/14 04:46 PM
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Eh.. they really do try to sell it as much as possible. Personally I wouldn't take this up though, not in my current financial situation anyway. I don't think I'm at a point where I'd feel comfortable paying for a hotseat, I feel like I have enough of a baseline to be just fine without it
/r/seduction27/07/14 04:20 PM
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You said you were going to europe? Usually when girls tell me they're doing a lot of traveling/going on different trips after our first date I just stop communicating with them because I know this girl just wants to travel this place and that place and I honestly don't have time to wait 2 weeks for a date, seems retarded, so I just don't contact these girls again
/r/seduction27/07/14 03:50 PM
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I don't understand, how long is the hotseat and it's just Todd going through sets? $300 is not worth it to see some guy go around, make out with some girls and then maybe pull one back home for sex. You won't be able to solidify any amount of information in that short time period of the hotseat, it's like what 3 hours? Also, please don't drop $2,000 on a bootcamp... Like I said, you probably won't be able to solidfy anything in 3 days of the boot camp, you need like a 30 day boot camp to really …
/r/seduction27/07/14 03:44 PM
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How much was the hot seat? And honestly if it's over like $20 I don't think it's worth it. You can learn and have your own fun just going out and going through the process instead of watching someone else do it, and it's free.
/r/seduction27/07/14 03:38 PM
1

You won't be able to get laid in iran or pakistan, take it from someone who is of middle eastern descent
/r/seduction27/07/14 03:36 PM
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I don't blame people
/r/seduction27/07/14 06:05 AM
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Not sure why you're getting down voted, but if you've been doing that then you're set. Good luck
/r/seduction27/07/14 05:17 AM
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Don't expect to completely transform from a loser personality into a solid one if you haven't done any self improvement to build up to this. If you haven't done self improvement at all then I suggest you start right now, it may be too late though. What I mean by self improvement is to just build confidence, be comfortable in new social situations and in your own skin. You should have this all prepared BEFORE you enter college, don't try to prepare it during college. Ideally you want to be coming…
/r/seduction27/07/14 03:53 AM
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You should honestly ask a couple of girls who you trust and know what they're doing. Getting opposite gender dating advice is really not effective at all. I could tell you things like, "oh you just have to be more sexier because all we guys care about is appearance, so just be more sexier than your friends" but the truth is there are definitely some sub communications going on during the interaction. I only know what works for trying to pick up girls, look over /r/fPUA for a community of women w…
/r/seduction27/07/14 03:46 AM
1

I never said to treat women like a sales deal. There are general methods that do work.
/r/seduction27/07/14 03:08 AM
1

Do it, this is what I do, it works
/r/seduction27/07/14 12:39 AM
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It's simple really, do not take the girl's number unless you can set up a firm date with her. A firm date is, "let's meet up at xyz tomorrow at 5pm" once you've established that and she solidly agrees to it then you take the number, if she doesn't agree or agrees half heartedly then you don't take the number and leave
/r/seduction27/07/14 12:37 AM
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That's when you just keep talking about whatever it was you were talking about and laughing at the shit you say, essentially self amusing yourself so that if the girl or person wasn't there to listen you wouldn't give fucks and would still be laughing
/r/seduction26/07/14 02:45 PM
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I'm here because I want a relationship, I'm not confused about my life and I'm not trying to get a girl to fix me. Even guys who have their life in order and still want a girl need to have some method to do so. The pick up community provides this, because it's either this or online dating (or social circle but those opportunities are few and far in between)
/r/seduction26/07/14 02:42 PM
1

It's not, the girls I go on dates with don't kiss me on the first date, and they don't text me back after the first date
/r/seduction26/07/14 04:40 AM
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You're generalizing for this community too much. To me, I see pick up as a hobby. The reason I use terms such as "approach", "set" and "opener is because they are short and easy to write. I don't want to write "I was talking to this girl" when I can just write "I was in set". Or that "my opening line was __" when I can write "my opener was _".
/r/seduction26/07/14 04:36 AM
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"A pick up artist is like a soldier in enemy territory, sneaking in and out of a womans life in the night, plundering and selfishly taking what they need, then crawling back to the other side of the abyss with the spoils, to celebrate with his henchmen." OP clearly made this thread just to post this last bit, clearly for the lulz
/r/seduction26/07/14 04:33 AM
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If you have to ask, then it's not okay
/r/seduction26/07/14 04:31 AM
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I have a part time job and an internship. On my downtime I play league of legends, masturbate, and approach girls. That's my life right now
/r/seduction26/07/14 04:30 AM
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You are a fool, texting back with just "k" after a girl flakes on you does make you appear whiny and pissed in that context. Especially if that's your first time texting that.
/r/seduction26/07/14 04:14 AM
1

Funny, but not likely to work
/r/seduction26/07/14 04:12 AM
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Sorry, but you've stepped into the wrong room. No one cares about your opinion on how to get a girl to fuck or date you because it is not backed up by evidence. So when you say something like, don't treat it like a transaction, that doesn't mean anything to anyone in this community because we discuss specifics on what actually works on picking up girls.
/r/seduction26/07/14 04:11 AM
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You are incorrect. People over complicate the dating dynamics because they aren't satisfied with it. This entire community is filled with guys who have been rejected by girls who they are attracted to at one point or another. In order to have a fulfilling love and sex life we try to figure out what works and what doesn't by trial and error, testing and field reports. You can't blame men for making the dating dynamic more complicated than it needs to be when they want to improve their dating live…
/r/seduction26/07/14 04:06 AM
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Nothing, I'm still the same old bitch, now I just read pick up material ... Lol just kidding, but seriously over the years I've changed myself and boosted my confidence 10 folds but talking a TON of more girls and taking them out on dates. My success isn't amazing but I'm definitely 100% different from how I was in high school
/r/seduction25/07/14 09:45 PM
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Other people are in the same boat as you, like me. Let's analyze what you're doing though, you say that you rarely get dates and just get instadates. How are these instadates going? Do they seem forced or does the girl actually want to come along. Also, why not just set up a date instead of instadate? Most girls have something to do in the day, and personally I perfer just meeting up with the girl for a date so it seems like we've already known each other due to the initial interaction, instead …
/r/seduction25/07/14 06:05 PM
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If it makes you feel any better I was a huge bitch in high school and never talked to any girls too
/r/seduction25/07/14 06:02 PM
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That doesn't sound good dude, it sounds like they literally just want to leave and you think what you're doing is teasing but it's not, you're probably being a huge ass hole and she just wants to get away from you
/r/seduction25/07/14 05:49 PM
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I've always been terrible at game in the workplace or class, basically any situation where you'll see the girl daily. Every time I would make a move on one of these girls it would never work out, they simply were not attracted to me or had a boyfriend. It's like a hit or miss, she either likes you and is down or she is neutral/doesn't like you. It's always been the latter for me and afterwords I'd just end up not talking to the girl or spending less time around her since she rejected me
/r/seduction25/07/14 04:14 PM
1

Just relax, go out and have fun talking to new girls
/r/seduction25/07/14 04:04 PM
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Clearly you don't understand what I've said. I've said everything is case by case, and you don't have to do "all business game". Obviously you need a personality, these aren't rules or formula that I'm telling you, these are general guidelines that are helpful. Just from your lack of grasp on the situation I can tell you're not very intelligent at all and the only girls you've had sex with are equally as dumb as you (if not more) and willing to suck anyone's dick, oh and they're below 5 in attra…
/r/seduction25/07/14 03:46 PM
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Yes, that 1 girl who had herpes and was below 5, congratulations
/r/seduction25/07/14 03:44 PM
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lolk On a serious note, there is no need to get all defensive and try to use all the girls you've "fucked" to validate yourself. Also, I don't want the below 5 girls with herpes that you pull in, keep them and your STDs to yourself, I aim for high quality girls
/r/seduction25/07/14 03:41 PM
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You are so delusional. You probably think all the texts you're sending are so funny and that you're "building attraction" by sending your little texts. Meanwhile the girl is telling her friends "omg why is this guy so corny just stop texting me already".
/r/seduction25/07/14 07:39 AM
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I don't get it, walk off playfully where? To the next location? You have to figure out what's causing this
/r/seduction25/07/14 06:45 AM
1

That ability to not give any fucks
/r/seduction25/07/14 05:14 AM
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So on your dates it's common for the girls to just completely walk off home right in the middle of it? That's strange
/r/seduction25/07/14 05:13 AM
0

Opening with a compliment is pretty standard and there's nothing wrong with it, what seems to be your actual problem here?
/r/seduction25/07/14 04:22 AM
1

If she makes an excuse then you don't even have to reply back, let her be the last to send a message
/r/seduction25/07/14 02:47 AM
1

You are an idiot. Why you would want to flirt and have idle conversation over text with a girl you just met. Do you not have a busy and fun life in which you do cool shit? And no if she's busy she doesn't respond later, sometimes girls don't respond back to texts, ever thought about that?
/r/seduction24/07/14 10:28 PM
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Sending that text is stupid and accomplishes nothing. Especially with a girl you just met. She doesn't care about your try hard attempts at "humor" over text. It's honestly just hurting you more than it's helping you as far as I can tell. If sending something like that works for you though then you're either deluding yourself into thinking it's working, you're talking out of your ass, or it works with 2% of girls. Good luck
/r/seduction24/07/14 10:26 PM
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Stop cheating on your girlfriend
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:16 PM
0

You do realize that things like sarcasm and jokes can easily be misinterpreted through text right? Clearly this hasn't crossed your mind
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:14 PM
1

Why didn't you just reschedule with her firmly a date before your trip or after your trip? You had a window of text opportunity to do it and you didn't take it, you're fucking up if you want to see this girl again
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:12 PM
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Everything is case by case. There are guidelines. If she left laughing and joking with everything you've been saying and you managed to find out that she's free for the entire rest of the week then yes go ahead and text the next day or the night of the date. But if she has big plans coming up then texting to meet up will most likely lead to a rejection. It's called doing what has a higher chance of being successful and appearing as less needy as possible in the process
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:10 PM
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Ok
/r/seduction24/07/14 08:06 PM
2

Don't say this, it's retarded, "I might be willing to bring you if you ask nicely"... are you serious? lol..
/r/seduction24/07/14 05:13 PM
2

That nervous 6 year old giggle though
/r/seduction24/07/14 12:09 AM
1

True story right here lol
/r/seduction24/07/14 12:08 AM
1

As of now, I disagree with you. Yes men are expected to lead, this is why it is crucial to get her out on that first date. That's when you lead, kino and vibe as much as possible and generally build as much attraction and comfort as you can. By trying to lead post first date through text, you risk coming off needy and killing any attraction or comfort that has been built. My logic is that if you can successfully lead the interaction up to the end of the first date then you're in good shape. Alwa…
/r/seduction23/07/14 08:34 PM
3

Seems smallish. Just mix it up, like once a week you go there and twice a week you go to another location
/r/seduction23/07/14 05:43 PM
1

Set up a firm coffee date with her and go to it? I honestly don't understand the problem here... You should have immediately set up firm plans such as tomorrow at 2pm at starbucks on xyz. Asking her to coffee "someday" is not firm at all
/r/seduction23/07/14 12:35 PM
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How big is the place? I've been approaching on and off on the same college campus near my apartment for probably a year now. I've run into the same people once or twice but it doesn't even matter because I would just look at my phone and be on my way. As long as your openers aren't too cheesy and routine-like you shouldn't feel bad about your "reputation" if that's what you care about
/r/seduction23/07/14 12:32 PM
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In the past, I would sometimes get hung up on this too. Except it wasn't with girls of different numbers (you should really stop rating girls based solely on physical appearance by the way, that's incredibly unhealthy). My problem is that I always attract a specific race of girls, black girls, and I'm honestly not attracted to that. The other girls that you're interested in won't show immediate attraction to you from the start (which is what I think you want), but you can still get them attracte…
/r/seduction23/07/14 12:28 PM
0

Or you could follow my new method: consider it dead method. Basically after meeting up for a first date with a girl, depending on if she invested or not (kissed you, automatically down to see you again), you delete your recent text conversation with her and completely forget about her. From what I'm speculating, this method is good to use on girls who you've built some attraction and comfort with but not enough for her to invest in you yet. By not texting and considering it dead, you come off as…
/r/seduction23/07/14 12:21 PM
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Tips for next time: try to approach earlier so you have more time to chat and you don't have to follow her out to the parking lot in the middle of the night, her guards might have been up which is why she didn't give you the number. Numbers are good but your goal should be setting up the firm date. Also, did your cousin know you were going to approach these girls or did you all of a sudden decide to do it and he just came along spontaneously. If it was an all of a sudden thing and he wanted to c…
/r/seduction23/07/14 12:15 PM
2

Get her out on a first date, leave a good impression of yourself on her, and then let her follow through if she wants
/r/seduction23/07/14 04:41 AM
2

Alright I went back and fully read this and here is what I think in full: you're making it seem like this was your first date in 10 years. You need to relax and just be at ease with the environment. I wasn't at the date so I couldn't see what was going on but just keep that in mind to be relaxed. Also, if she wants to pay for her drinks let her, don't be annoying about it. On the topic of annoying, stop saying you're gonna "kick her ass" at mini-golf so much, that shit is annoying. When someone …
/r/seduction23/07/14 01:16 AM
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You don't need a lair to do this though, I've been on my own the entire time and have been completely fine. I've gone out with a wing occasionally and it didn't even make a difference for me. In fact, one wing I went out with one time didn't do any approaches at all, he just backed out of every approach and didn't even seem like he wanted to get better, honestly he just held me back. All the times I've winged with a guy, he would just hold me back from my full potential which is why I prefer sol…
/r/seduction23/07/14 01:04 AM
1

This reminds of me of that one post where OP was like watch a bunch of half naked chicks right before you go out because it'll help you get over AA
/r/seduction23/07/14 01:01 AM
1

We didn't have amazing sex, she wouldn't let me kiss her, what does "timebridged" mean?
/r/seduction22/07/14 10:48 PM
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That means you're fucked, don't take the number unless you can get her to confirm to a firm date right then and there. Edit: This is what I like to do, to each is there own
/r/seduction22/07/14 10:41 PM
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I didn't read everything but here let me be blunt: you're being a bitch. Look at yourself, read your texts, you have no control over yourself. You just text willy nilly without even thinking about anything. She senses that you have no idea what the fuck you are doing. You text her if she has plans and she's like i'm in pa, and now you're like okay nevermind? How about just not text her back? You are a slave to her, texting her constantly, begging for a reaction, begging for another chance to go …
/r/seduction22/07/14 09:21 PM
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He has the right idea but he's being an idiot if he doesn't take the number. Let him try it a couple of times and get flaked on and then he'll understand. The point of taking the number after you set up the date is to text things like "hey i'm on my way, see ya in 15 mins" something like that so she knows to expect you and you know to expect her
/r/seduction22/07/14 08:23 PM
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Good luck, it's always better to set up the firm date during the first interaction. I've been flaked on way too many times when I would just get the number and try to set it up through text
/r/seduction22/07/14 08:09 PM
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Yeah check your calender first, that's what I do. Make sure you know what days you're open so you don't have to waste time and think it out on the spot. And the way you present it is first ask for her schedule, then listen to what she says, if she's giving you some open windows such as "I have work wed and monday and i get off at the evening, tues and thurs i get off at the afternoon" take that as a chance to say "alright, tuesday 6pm sound good?" Then wait for her response so she confirms it. A…
/r/seduction22/07/14 06:58 PM
0

I haven't been with a lot of girls so I don't know what type of personality I like in a girl. It might just be the girls I've been taking out but almost all the time I can't secure a kiss on the first date
/r/seduction22/07/14 06:55 PM
1

If she's messaging you out of the blue you definitely have a green light. You should only be texting as much as her or less than, ideally less than. Seems like you already have this situation secured, you probably could've kissed her on the first date if you tried to (not sure if you tried)
/r/seduction22/07/14 05:32 PM
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You forgot the most important part: you HAVE to set up the firm date before you take any form of communication (number). If you're not setting up the firm date, then you're fucking up. Also, this is something that I'm doing recently: once you set up the date and took her number, just quickly text her right then and there in front of her with your name. Bonus points if you see her phone light up indicating she got the text. No need to call her, just do the above and text your name and she'll have…
/r/seduction22/07/14 05:28 PM
1

I edited my post and added more information. The thing is, I am afraid of "fucking up texts" because you can't recover from that, it's happened to me in the past and I don't want that happening to me anymore. I don't care about fucking up in real life because people forget actions that are like 3 seconds long, a text on the other hand is different. For me to relax and center myself, I'd rather not send any texts at all, because now I wouldn't have to worry about getting a reply back or worry abo…
/r/seduction22/07/14 05:24 PM
1

I don't know, all I know is that in my most recent situation I wasn't able to kiss her but did do some light kino such as holding her hand. I did suggest to meet up again next week towards the end of the date and she said sure but her next week seems packed with things she's doing. This is why I'm opting to just consider it dead to save myself from coming off as needy through text EDIT: Also, maybe it's just the girls I'm going out with but what I would notice is that most/almost all girls are n…
/r/seduction22/07/14 04:42 PM
1

There's no point to text girls who you've just met (aka they haven't invested in you yet) if it isn't about setting up a date. Girls who haven't invested in you yet will not hesitate to completely end things with you at any moment. Texting can only hurt you in a situation like this. You wouldn't benefit at all by sending small texts "just because". Texting is equivalent to sticking your hand in a really hot oven, once the girl replies or takes notice of your text you can pull your hand out and y…
/r/seduction22/07/14 02:41 PM
1

Yeah I went on a date with a girl today, suggested we meet up next week towards the end of the date. She seemed down but then gives me her schedule that she's leaving to NYC on friday and won't be back til like tuesday or wednesday. Then I believe she mentions some trip again right when she gets back, so it's a huge annoyance and I'd rather just not think about it and consider it dead. I may or may not approach other girls during this week, who knows.
/r/seduction22/07/14 03:41 AM
1

Never recovered from it, I honestly think it's impossible to, or at least a very slim chance, like 1%. Most of the time being ignored = she lost interest. Honestly, the only time I would text freely/whenever I want is AFTER we've had sex, or after we've established a relationship. Anything before that and it's just too much of a risk to destroy everything that has been built
/r/seduction22/07/14 02:12 AM
2

I'm not sure if it's common in general but it has been some what common for me. My philosophy is this: less is more. At least in the beginning it is, I like to text as MINIMALLY as I possibly can and during the date I just put on my usual fun and chatty vibe. I make jokes and overall not care, but let's say I try to escalate and she denies me, my go to response is this: not say anything at all and just back off and resume casual conversation after a couple of seconds.
/r/seduction22/07/14 01:37 AM
1

I'm in the same situation, girl didn't back after our first date. I was freaking out about it last night but right now I'm just trying to move on and forget, consider it dead
/r/seduction21/07/14 01:02 PM
2

I see you've linked my FR, interesting (note: that girl never texted me back, gg)
/r/seduction21/07/14 11:49 AM
1

Can confirm, there were several tears, sweat and depression for me as I tried to improve myself lol
/r/seduction21/07/14 11:45 AM
1

That's your problem, you're not trying at all. You haven't approached in a while? How do you expect to see results when you aren't even trying as often
/r/seduction21/07/14 11:43 AM
1

Are you a social person? Try to develop a personality. I'm having a tough time too, especially with texting, we all have tough times, you just need to stick to it though
/r/seduction21/07/14 12:56 AM
1

I've heard people pull off crazy shit in NYC because the amount of girls is just unlimited. And it seems like the girls there are more dtf too. I can definitely see a lot of pressure in trying to get laid there though
/r/seduction21/07/14 12:20 AM
3

Maybe... I just re read it, said WHILE we've been talking. Yeah next time I guess I'll try to play it off like that with intense sarcasm, what if she's like "hahaha but seriously though do you", then I just be straight up about it (I was straight up during the FR)
/r/seduction20/07/14 11:12 PM
2

I think she would've been turned off by this
/r/seduction20/07/14 09:18 PM
1

Yeah that's what I said
/r/seduction20/07/14 08:44 PM
3

How do I appear more genuine? Like in a situation like this what's the best way to handle it?
/r/seduction20/07/14 08:43 PM
5

I think I failed, did I fail?
/r/seduction20/07/14 07:55 PM
1

If you're new talk to everyone, if not then just focus on girls who you're attracted to.
/r/seduction20/07/14 04:10 PM
1

Thanks, this is valuable advice. I'm just gonna be completely relaxed about it, as if I have tons of more options if things don't work out. I'm gonna screen if she's sexual but like you said if I can't even kiss her on the first date then it's no big deal. Also, the most key thing I took away is that the whole idea is to meet this girl and figure out more about her
/r/seduction20/07/14 06:50 AM
2

Too much mental masturbation. Stop thinking about all of this stuff and just approach
/r/seduction20/07/14 05:16 AM
21

Didn't this guy use to make videos with Athene?
/r/seduction20/07/14 05:14 AM
4

Tomorrow
/r/seduction19/07/14 11:38 PM
0

Hey, I like celery
/r/seduction19/07/14 11:30 PM
0

Sorry, how can I help you?
/r/seduction19/07/14 11:24 PM
1

Yes but by going indirect you still have to just do it, which will allow you to desensitize yourself
/r/seduction19/07/14 09:46 PM
1

You're suppose to make it clear that you want to move things forward. You're probably too afraid to take risks and believe that you're building a ton of rapport. You may be but you aren't taking risks and you're being too friendly. You want to incorporate touch and go for a make out. If it's nightgame then try to spin her and put her arm around your neck. If it doesn't work then back off a bit and then escalate in a different way a couple of minutes later. Always be getting physical.
/r/seduction19/07/14 08:59 PM
0

You need to desensitize yourself. Just start talking to girls who you find attractive. Introduce yourself, there is no shortcut, tips or tricks to this, it's one of those things you have to simply do
/r/seduction19/07/14 08:54 PM
0

Give it 24 hours, but don't wait on it. Also, you don't have to delete the number, just the text conversation. I literally have 30+ numbers of random girls who I've approached through the months. So if you keep these girls numbers on your phone you'll look cooler if someone happens to see your contact list and see all the numbers of girls you have on there
/r/seduction19/07/14 08:46 PM
1

Make friends with your room mate. Hang around him and let him know that you wanna meet some girls around campus. He'll totally understand and if he's straight he'll probably be down for it. So you guys can just around and chat up people and form your own social circle
/r/seduction19/07/14 08:05 PM
1

Put your personality out there, are you a fun guy? It's easy to get into a social circle first year of college. Everyone wants to make friends. My first year I easily got into a social circle of girls and guys (mostly girls) and we all hanged out, ate at restaurants, watched movies, went to clubs, etc. That being said no one in the group got laid but it all depends on the crowd of people you're looking to hang out with and if you are compatible with them
/r/seduction19/07/14 07:03 PM
10

Get your room mate and walk down the halls and just walk into anyone's room that's open, preferable hot girls. Be fun, spontaneous and at ease with the environment. Don't try to number close or anything, just have some fun, and don't be too eager to set up concrete plans with girls, you're gonna see these girls again
/r/seduction19/07/14 04:40 PM
1

Just go solo, you don't need anyone to start meeting new people
/r/seduction19/07/14 04:11 AM
1

My kino needs some work, during 1st dates I try to go for some hand holding, more reserved girls aren't up for this though so I have to cut back on it and do more lighter stuff, any tips on what to do if the girl is not accepting your kino and would wanna take it slow on the touch?
/r/seduction18/07/14 08:04 PM
10

Your goal should be setting up the firm date and not going for numbers Being high energy works wonders during nightgame Find commonalities to build connections with her during conversation Most of daygame and dating in general is a numbers game Don't be needy, have options and busy yourself Realize you are enough, don't become obsessive and think you need a girl
/r/seduction18/07/14 08:00 PM
1

I'm not sure what I can extract from this FR, you have to remember that we're both different people doing this. We have different personalities, styles and we look different. EDIT: Do you want to explain how you built comfort in this set?
/r/seduction18/07/14 07:14 PM
1

I'm in a rush to type this but here is what I think will happen: 90% chance to flake, as in you text her and no reply. Why? You didn't set up the firm date
/r/seduction18/07/14 07:00 PM
1

I think it's good content, friendly and cool sounds like a good foundation
/r/seduction18/07/14 06:00 PM
0

And that is where you're wrong, I've been in this for a few months? Sorry buddy, but I've been doing this for years. The reason you're seeing my posts this recent is because I took breaks from /r/seduction throughout the year. I've definitely been in this for a while so don't expect that I don't know wtf I'm talking about
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:49 PM
1

Definitely technique. I have two dates lined up next week as a result of daygame. Or perhaps you need to work on your appearance. Make sure that you're in general hygienic, and that you work out. If you aren't taking care of yourself and body you're obviously not going to get good results. Follow WINS - Work out, image (fashion, no acne, good hair), nutrition, and finally, shut the fuck up. So do all of that and at the end just shut the fuck up, let it go, and approach
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:48 PM
2

I remember I was in a club, I wanted to talk to these incredibly hot girls, there were two of them and they were stunning. I go in and approach and apparently they're with some black guy, same build as me (he wasn't jacked or tall or anything), he stands in front of me and introduces himself. He starts getting closer in front so I just acknowledge him to get him to get the faq outta the way. Then all of a sudden he gets directly in between me and the girls and he literally does not let me move a…
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:44 PM
0

Your advice is such trash. Do you even do approaches? You speak of building more "attraction" and "comfort" yet you don't even give examples of what you mean. Without any specifics your general advice is worthless, this leads me to believe you have no idea what you're talking about
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:39 PM
1

I'm not too high energy, definitely more energy than usual but not over the top
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:38 PM
1

Do you do daygame frequently? When's the last time you've been in a set? What you don't understand and realize is that you don't have an infinite amount of time to build comfort with a girl who you just approached on the street. Moreover, you don't specifically say how you build comfort. I'm probably already doing the correct things to build comfort and sets aren't hooking because again it's a numbers game
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:37 PM
1

Look at his past FRs for this month. He talks about dating girls and kissing them. Why would a guy do that when he's in a relationship with a girl for the past four months? So obviously /u/Live-LoveMatt is either lying about being in a relationship to boost his ego, or cheating on his "girlfriend" by going on dates with other girls. Either way he's still a loser
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:58 AM
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I agree, most guys that do pick up (including Matt) like to lie and fabricate their results. They wanna believe what they want to believe and they'll make up stories just to boost their ego. There's only a handful of guys out there (like me) can do say their situation with 100% truth
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:55 AM
1

I don't like to think of them as tests, seems stupid
/r/seduction18/07/14 05:39 AM
1

Sometimes you have no chance, no matter how you open, it's a numbers game
/r/seduction18/07/14 03:23 AM
2

Just walk up to her and say your opener, some girls will be creeped out no matter what you say, some girls will be excited to stop and make conversation, it's random
/r/seduction18/07/14 02:34 AM
-1

Maybe, I don't know
/r/seduction18/07/14 02:20 AM
1

Seems really wishy washy, I always try to avoid stuff like that because most of the time it ends in a flake
/r/seduction18/07/14 01:04 AM
1

Some waitresses have REALLY nice asses though
/r/seduction17/07/14 11:59 PM
-7

You won't be able to pick up more prestige girls who don't smoke pot if you decide to let pot enter your lifestyle
/r/seduction17/07/14 11:58 PM
1

Do not text again, if you text again you will fuck everything up. But you're probably not gonna listen to me anyway and text again, so lemme know how badly it goes once you do
/r/seduction17/07/14 11:57 PM
24

Four months ago I was jerking off and playing league, guess what I'm doing now?
/r/seduction17/07/14 09:40 PM
0

Shit happens, I remember I was out daygaming one day and 4 girls in a row told me they all have boyfriends. Shit happens
/r/seduction17/07/14 09:01 PM
1

Not a good idea. She probably serves a fuck load of people a day so she won't remember you. Also, getting the number doesn't accomplish much, you need to setup the firm date
/r/seduction17/07/14 08:52 PM
1

You didn't have a good opener. You tried to find out her career without building any rapport at all. You need to ease into it. Should have just asked a survey type question to break the ice "So, I have a question for you, do you prefer dunkin donuts or Starbucks?". I've used this opener several times and almost all the time the girls will immediately answer with their choice of Starbucks or Dunkin donuts without even getting your name or anything. Then you just talk about that for a bit and tran…
/r/seduction17/07/14 08:49 PM
1

Whoever is reading this, do not do this, ever
/r/seduction17/07/14 08:45 PM
1

Don't be delusional. You shouldn't be concerned with trying to pass anything when you're talking to a beautiful girl. You should already has a solid frame frame and foundation that will allow you to pull girls, then you simply go into the interaction and have fun
/r/seduction17/07/14 08:39 PM
0

Has to be intelligent, no bimbos, no geniuses either though. Just a decent level of intelligence to hold some type of intellectual conversation. Has to be funny and willing to make jokes. Some sarcasm is fine, a girl who likes to laugh is my kind of girl. She has a good fashion sense. No slobs, I like clean and organized girls. She has her shit together and knows how to dress well and sexy. She is girlish and not some man woman. Lastly, she's fun when the time calls for it, I don't like a comple…
/r/seduction17/07/14 06:12 PM
2

I'm not very good at same day lays, I usually just set up the firm date and take it from there. If you're going to do same day stuff you'll have to screen for girls who are clearly dtf and then move from there by closing the distance, touch on her back, get the friends involved. Shit like that
/r/seduction17/07/14 12:25 PM
1

You're too obsessed with shit tests, stop thinking about them. Shit tests are retarded and don't exist. When she tells you she has a boyfriend she's rejecting you so just move on and don't waste your time. Additionally, view this as approaching girls and being friendly and cool, not as trying to "pick up on more shit tests" because as I said, shit tests don't exist
/r/seduction17/07/14 12:15 PM
3

What if the girl gets uncomfortable? She probably wouldn't come back to your store anymore. Not sure how I would feel about doing this
/r/seduction17/07/14 12:11 PM
1

Make up an opener that you think is hilarious and use that. My favorite go to ones are: compliment her on a piece of clothing she is wearing and say you wanted to say hi, make a situational observation, ask her an out of no where survey question. These are all good openers, just pick one and use it
/r/seduction17/07/14 06:28 AM
2

If she wants to meet you there that's fine. If you can't pull at your place your next option is her place. I would try to find out her situation beforehand (hopefully you have an idea already). As in, does she have her own place, or is she living with parents, if she is then do they work during the day. If that is out you can always have a plan b and go with in your car, or outdoors if it really has to come down to that.
/r/seduction17/07/14 06:26 AM
1

For the first girl I got her schedule and she said she was good for the weekend so that's why i said saturday. I can understand why you didn't like my FR
/r/seduction17/07/14 05:26 AM
1

Seduction and pick up is a great hobby. Fun to learn about and interesting to get into, also you get laid, what more could you want in a hobby
/r/seduction17/07/14 04:14 AM
2

You were on the job? Maybe it's just me but personally I wouldn't wanna flirt with girls on the clock... not sure if it would jeopardize my job so I just don't do it. Also, instead of going for the number you should be trying to set up a firm date
/r/seduction17/07/14 04:12 AM
1

Meh, seems alright. In nightgame you can definitely escalate a lot faster as you can see from this video. This leads me to believe that if you simply go out 7 nights a week with a moderate amount of game you can reach the results here. The only problem I have is that I can't afford to go out 7 nights a week and the rare times that I do go out at night my game is inconsistent. At one point you'll reach a level to be able to pick up on signals and be able to tell when you can bring a girl to like …
/r/seduction17/07/14 03:29 AM
1

I wrote a FR about it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/2awiq0/fr_set_up_a_firm_date_today_and_got_a_number_from/
/r/seduction17/07/14 02:45 AM
1

If she's given you an excuse or flakes more than 2 times without giving you an alternative then don't give her another chance. If you're really desperate than you can try again 2 weeks later but I would just stop contacting her and approach other girls
/r/seduction17/07/14 12:03 AM
1

Don't ask girls you recently met to hit you up or initiate with you first because 99.9% of the time they never will
/r/seduction17/07/14 12:01 AM
0

I don't know, never tried it. The reason is I don't see WHY anyone would want to do that. So what you k-closed a girl you just met on the street, awesome, are you going to pull her home now? Probably not, why? Because her logistics are probably fucked up, or she has to be somewhere, or something else. You might as well just set up the firm date and try to pull then
/r/seduction17/07/14 12:00 AM
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Approach more girls, develop a personality, learn how to have fun and do shit that you think is funny. This is what I do anyway, and it seems to be working for me. You can watch some tyler from RSD if you want to, some of the shit he talks about is funny lol
/r/seduction16/07/14 11:17 PM
0

Set up the firm date. I didn't see the approach so I don't know what kind of vibe you gave off. But you want to give a jokey and light vibe off. You suggested coffee or ice cream which is good, but you shouldn't have just gave her your phone. You should have waited until she said something, and then ask for her schedule if she's still hesitant, if you can't manage to decide on a solid date, time and place then you should expect a flake or not even take the number
/r/seduction16/07/14 11:07 PM
1

You should expect a flake, if she didn't confirm to a firm date then you'll most likely receive no respond to your text.
/r/seduction16/07/14 11:01 PM
2

Trust me, you NEED a firm date
/r/seduction16/07/14 10:32 PM
1

I like to be high energy. I find it fun to open set with stupid shit and then just joke around and say whatever shit I find funny
/r/seduction16/07/14 10:32 PM
4

You're actually right, I just did an approach right now but I couldn't will myself to just walk away, set was fun and I'd feel kind of dick ish about it. Instead I just said ah alright you seem way too busy for me and then said nice meeting you and left. Straight up just walking away feels too dick like especially when you've built some rapport
/r/seduction16/07/14 08:57 PM
1

Same I'm 19 and I like girls with big titties, unfortunately I have yet to pull a girl like that though but I am determined so hopefully I can do it in the future
/r/seduction16/07/14 06:40 PM
1

Playing LoL and jerking off every weekend is the shit, what're you talking about
/r/seduction16/07/14 06:19 PM
3

You're actually correct in that teenager girls rarely open up. I've noticed this too. If they're 18-20 they seem stand offish no matter how tight your game is. I'm thinking that girls who've matured, are 21+, and have had sex a couple of times would be more comfortable to a cold approach
/r/seduction16/07/14 05:56 PM
10

Here I'll give you some motivation: I'm a fat nerd and I'm going to fuck all the girls that you want to fuck because you're too much of a pussy to do anything about it
/r/seduction16/07/14 03:18 PM
7

You're dumb, if I had a chance with a girl freshman year when I had room mates I'd definitely kick them out to fuck. That's what you're suppose to do, if you're kicking him out often though for sex and he's not getting any sex at all he could get mad and hate you for that (source: that's what happened to me)
/r/seduction16/07/14 06:12 AM
5

After every approach find something about it that was funny and laugh at it. Just laugh to yourself and really find it hilarious. This will elevate your state and build momentum to keep you rolling and doing more approaches.
/r/seduction16/07/14 03:01 AM
-1

Tinder is just for lulz and shit, I've been matched with all bots and prostitutes for the last 3 days, do I give any fucks? Nope
/r/seduction16/07/14 02:56 AM
1

OP probably tried to set up dates with her at least 3 times now and has been flaked/given an excuse/dog has died each time. At this point he needs to cut off contact and meet more girls.
/r/seduction16/07/14 02:34 AM
1

Blocking on facebook is too extreme. If OP doesn't want to talk to her again then he should delete her from facebook once he knows he won't have to see her again. Then follow up with deleting the texts and photos
/r/seduction16/07/14 02:33 AM
0

A little experiment I'm gonna try is that the next time I'm in set and things are goin great, I'll ask her out to coffee as usual. If she gives me an excuse or that she's not sure or maybe (basically anything that's not a confirmed yes or sure) I'll simply just pull out my phone while she's in mid excuse, glance at it for a bit and pretend to be texting someone, and then after 3-5 seconds I'll just turn around and start walking away as nonchalantly as I can (lol) will post back with results
/r/seduction15/07/14 10:18 PM
5

Tell me, what is your close percentage?
/r/seduction15/07/14 06:18 PM
8

That's not a good thing
/r/seduction15/07/14 06:14 PM
7

This guy lol
/r/seduction15/07/14 06:04 PM
0

In the original thread, the OP's idea COULD work, it's not really sustainable though
/r/seduction15/07/14 05:08 PM
-1

Haha!
/r/seduction15/07/14 04:51 PM
-2

This is sooooooo stupid lol......
/r/seduction15/07/14 04:47 PM
-1

This. OP nobody owes you shit, these girls don't owe you shit, so just suck it up and stop caring lol
/r/seduction15/07/14 03:55 PM
2

It's always good to see an occasional woman doing cold approaches, maybe one day i'll get cold approached lol
/r/seduction15/07/14 03:54 PM
12

Congratulations, but numbers don't mean anything, especially on a college campus where girls give out numbers like candy. Set up the firm date next time
/r/seduction15/07/14 03:29 PM
1

Do you do daygame? Perhaps you're setting up a firm date before going for the number? I always tell myself I'll do that but in set I just bitch out and settle for the number if I get a light rejection or excuses
/r/seduction15/07/14 04:32 AM
1

That's not very constructive, would you like to explain to me how my game is flawed?
/r/seduction15/07/14 02:48 AM
0

Don't feel jealous, she never replied to any of my texts within a span of 5 hours. And as I was approaching her she was on her phone listening to music. Girls like these definitely have their phones next to them every 10 minutes, she's probably in her apartment on the computer chilling or something so she definitely saw my texts
/r/seduction15/07/14 02:06 AM
1

Approach more girls, that's the only thing you can do
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:51 PM
0

First thing's first, get a gym membership
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:49 PM
1

You don't have to spend your life at the gym. Just work on yourself, gym at least 3 days a week. Get fit, look as attractive as you can, and then start approaching. Like it or not, humans are superficial, you are superficial too, so am I, and girls are no different.
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:47 PM
1

This is like the truth of reality hitting you in the face full force lol, i like it
/r/seduction14/07/14 04:42 PM
1

It depends on how many times you've asked her out after the interaction. Ideally you want to set up the date during the interaction and just use text to communicate (for example: "hey I'll see ya in 20 mins"). If you can't set up the date during the interaction you do it through text. If you haven't done this already then do it: give a firm date, time and place. If she doesn't reply then she's not interested
/r/seduction13/07/14 11:43 PM
3

It depends, is it state college or Ivy League? I've had complete shit and barely any success on Ivy League campuses. The girls are simply too engaged in studies or career to want to make time for you. State college would be much better. I remember I gamed on a state college campus for 3 hours with a friend and I left with a date set up. Avoid Ivy League at all costs
/r/seduction13/07/14 11:37 PM
1

If she's walking fairly quickly then she probably has to be somewhere in time. You can speed walk up to her side and then approach from an angle but you may be presented with "hey sorry I'm really in a rush right now" immediately after your opener. So you decide if the chance is worth the effort
/r/seduction13/07/14 11:34 PM
1

You shouldn't expect girls you've just approached or recently met to call or text you back, because most of the time they won't.
/r/seduction13/07/14 11:28 PM
1

I don't understand your purpose to be here then, entertainment value? If you are satisfied with social circle game then good for you. I've personally had very very few social circle opportunities.
/r/seduction13/07/14 06:18 AM
5

Try to stop talking to just sales associates. You'll have a successful experience with a girl whose off the clock
/r/seduction13/07/14 02:00 AM
1

Pretty much what you said, have fun with it, not give a fuck, joke around, get into it
/r/seduction12/07/14 10:09 PM
1

This is basically an example of how I approach, 5x more energy with it though, lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhluGals_1Y&t=4m43s I'm not saying everyone has to do this or that this gets you laid 24/7. I'm saying that I like to have fun doing this so it's what I do
/r/seduction12/07/14 05:32 PM
1

My initiation skills are solid, but my closing isn't that great
/r/seduction12/07/14 05:20 PM
1

Alright, whatever you say
/r/seduction12/07/14 04:26 PM
1

A lot of people will just judge my method on how many girls you get. The second someone starts viewing my method from a frame like that, I instantly know that they will struggle to get any kind of girl in a club enviornment. You shouldn't be doing this shit to maximize your results, you should be doing it to have fun and a good time. If what I do doesn't seem like fun for you then find another way to have fun, because quite frankly I love jumping into groups and pulling in 3+ girls by their wais…
/r/seduction12/07/14 04:23 PM
1

I have, but your mindset is cancerous and I can see why you have trouble with girls.
/r/seduction12/07/14 04:10 PM
2

I think you're going to just have to wad through much much more girls if you want something casual. No girl likes to be seen as a slut so they probably want something semi serious to make them selves feel better since you two have already seen each other quite a few times. What I recommend you do is just game as normal, take them to a bar if you want and try to close on the first date. If you can't, try for it the second date. You want to bring them home after the dates, not send them home and t…
/r/seduction12/07/14 03:43 PM
3

You can post the full story and I'll analyze it and give my 2 cents if you're up for it.
/r/seduction12/07/14 03:35 PM
21

Basically what it's saying is that nobody in the world gives a fuck if you fail with women and die alone. So if you just give up or don't try no one will feel sorry for you or pity you, the world will just move on
/r/seduction12/07/14 03:32 PM
1

You won't be getting any results if you go into it just wondering how often it'll get you laid. You have to go into it just having fun and escalating at the opportunities you get. I never went for any numbers because I've had shit experiences with numbers in that most just flake. So I just focused on trying to pull but unfortunately the logistics for most of the girls was pretty screwed up. I would pretty much have to be lucky as fuck to pull a girl home from a 17+ club located 10 minutes of wal…
/r/seduction12/07/14 03:13 PM
2

Of course you need to undergo a state change. I don't know how guys can be successful in loud clubs without being high energy. I know that being high energy works for me. The way you approach girls is you have to simply not give a fuck. Look, I know this is gonna be hard for 90%+ of the male population but what I do is I just go up to a group of 5 girls. And I just start throwing my hands in the air and jumping up and down near them at much as I can. I did this the first couple of minutes I got …
/r/seduction12/07/14 03:00 PM
1

Show up and talk to everyone. You don't need to go with people or drink to do this. I went alone and completely sober and I had a great time. The trick is to build momentum, at the beginning of the night just talk to everyone, including guys, make a connection and say you'll catch them around, don't over stay. Later on when you see them you can jump in and do crazy shit
/r/seduction12/07/14 02:54 PM
1

So sad but oh so true
/r/seduction12/07/14 07:54 AM
2

The thing with nightgame is that you have to be willing to give no fucks at all. Not all guys can do this, and no matter what I say to you, you wouldn't be able to change your mindset and be full high energy unless you really wanted to. For example, I just came back from a club and I had a kick ass time. I was literally dancing in over 10 group of girls the entire night. How did I do it? I went right up to the group, threw my hands up, high energy, jump up and down right in front of them, and co…
/r/seduction12/07/14 07:30 AM
1

I honestly can't relate to the whole approach anxiety thing anymore. I guess that's a factor that all guys who do online dating consider; they simply do not want to approach girls in real life because of their AA so they take the online dating alternative
/r/seduction11/07/14 05:43 PM
1

And what is your height and are you white?
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:40 PM
1

The difference between online dating and approaching girls in real life is that in real life you have the fun of talking with an actual girl for a couple of minutes before getting blown out. With online dating you know how you get blown out? Sends message, Gets no reply, that's how. With that in mind, gaming in real life is a lot more fun than online dating, especially since you have to work just as hard, if not harder, by perfecting your profile, getting solid pictures, and sending quality mess…
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:35 PM
1

How exactly can you suck at online dating. Especially with apps like tinder where your pictures dictate who you are. You even supported me by saying that you can almost always succeed if the girl replies. This implies that if she accepts your level of attractive-ness by replying back, you can almost always succeed, which means you can't suck if all you have to do is not fuck up.
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:32 PM
1

A low response rate correlates to a low lay/success rate. You can't be successful if the girl doesn't even reply to your first message
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:24 PM
1

I would have to say that getting girls at a bar is probably easier than getting girls online
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:23 PM
3

I honestly have no advice for gaming if you're still in high school because I was pretty much a huge chode that never made a move during those years. If you're 18+ you should definitely be doing approaches regardless of your social circle (work on that too if you want). If you're not 18+ then I don't know what to tell you
/r/seduction11/07/14 02:38 PM
0

I feel like you're just trying to market here. Daygame isn't as common because most guys don't have enough balls to approach a girl during the day so they resort to the 3 common ways: online dating, friends of friends, and bars/clubs. No matter what method you choose though you can still succeed and not one way can be proven to be more successful. If you're a guy whose tried all methods and struggled, you'll have to go through a lot more girls to hopefully see a connection. Also, please don't gi…
/r/seduction11/07/14 02:32 PM
1

You should start going to bars alone if you're serious about this. Finding a quality girl is similar to grinding on an online MMO. You need to maximum the time you spend searching so that hopefully one interaction will click and there'll be chemistry. If you don't like the girls at bars you can approach anywhere, coffee shops, book stores, streets.
/r/seduction11/07/14 02:24 PM
1

You are correct. Most of the girls online are not attractive at all. So guys have to lower their standards if they want to get anywhere. What kind of hot girl or quality girl needs online dating to meet a guy? It just doesn't make sense. Especially if you're already a solid guy who takes care of himself (works out, good career, eats well) you'll be disappointed to know that fatties and sub par girls are rejecting you simply because every guy is lining up for the scrapes online
/r/seduction11/07/14 02:22 PM
3

You are correct that online dating will punish average looking guys. For the most part they are a waste of time. The two most other common ways that relationships begin are through friends of friends or bars/clubs. You say you're not really a club person, are you a bar person? If you don't like bars either and you don't have many social circle opportunities then you can do daygame. Daygame isn't as common a way for relationships to begin but that doesn't mean it is not as successful as the other…
/r/seduction11/07/14 07:03 AM
1

I have yet to get a girlfriend off of a daygame approach and I've been in this for a while. The world is trying to tell me that my fucked up genes should not be reproducing but I'm gonna say fuck you to the world and keep trying anyway
/r/seduction11/07/14 06:58 AM
2

Do daygame until you get sick of it, then daygame some more. Continue this until you're 21, that's what I'm doing
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:29 AM
1

This man knows exactly what he's talking about. If you try to logically explain this to the online dating community they'll just bash you that you're not trying hard enough or being patient with online dating. The fact of the matter is that the factors of online dating are just as hard, if not more, than daygaming. Online dating is not a shortchut or magic pill (I thought it would be like that too). Think of online dating as hell 2.0, the amount of shit you have to wad through is simply not wort…
/r/seduction11/07/14 03:24 AM
2

You just need to push through and approach alone until it becomes auto poilot. For example, I ended work at 9 pm and I was walking through the streets and saw two girls. One had the most fantastic ass ever. Before I knew it I was already beside them and have already said "hey i'm looking for xyz do you guys know where it is". I've literally done so many approaches that it's just auto pilot for me, after the approach I thought "wow I didn't even feel anything doing that" because it has become so …
/r/seduction11/07/14 02:35 AM
8

You're exactly right. The thing is people like OP think that tinder actually requires skill. They're so blinded by reality and unaware of what it's like on an average guy end. They've literally convinced themselves that they're actually "gaming" through tinder when in reality they are doing nothing noteworthy.
/r/seduction11/07/14 02:32 AM
1

How'd the approach go?
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:30 PM
2

Good friend.
/r/seduction10/07/14 04:26 AM
1

Your friends or co workers or anyone don't even have to find out you "pick up" girls. You could just do daygame on your own time and if some friends ask about your day just be like oh I was at the bookstore returning a book and I saw this cute girl so I chatted her up and got her number. No one in the world would think that's weird.
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:47 AM
1

Did you meet her online?
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:22 AM
1

Have your logistics planned out, make sure that if you do pull a girl you know how to bring her to the sex location, you don't want to get royally screwed if it comes to that point. That being said, if you don't have prior experience with nightgame or game in generally, don't expect to some how magically crush and make out with every girl in the club. You'll probably just be stuck in your head most of the time but if you really want to make this work here is what you do: be high energy, approach…
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:20 AM
1

It'll make you better at opening. If you can open during the day, opening in a club should be a joke. Depending on the environment, your conversation skills probably won't see much light during nightgame, especially if it's a loud club. The good news is that in a situation like that you can get away with a lot more, this means physically escalating within minutes and inevitably pulling a girl back to your place, which is definitely more difficult to do during the day.
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:17 AM
3

Do you think your job would be in jeopardy if you tried to get a girl's number as you're serving her? I work in retail and occasionally I would be ringing up a cute girl but I'm not sure if it's appropriate for me to try and get the digits. I don't want her to feel uncomfortable and never come to my store again and I don't want my co-workers or supervisor to hear because I'm not sure if what I am doing would cause me to get punished.
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:13 AM
1

I don't really have good advice to offer because I don't like tinder and have had no success with it (all my matches are fat ugly black chicks and I've swiped yes to every single girl). You should have just waited for her to reply after "this weekend" because now you gave her the opportunity to simply dodge your scheduling again. If I were in your situation I would just ask for her schedule and if she keeps making up excuses left and right with no alternatives I would not continue to message her
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:09 AM
0

Why not just compliment her on something she's wearing/style or fashion and then say hi. I've had a fair amount of success with that
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:05 AM
1

Awesome, good shit
/r/seduction09/07/14 06:24 PM
0

Sorry, but even with all the confidence in the world you still will not be able to get any girl or even a majority of the girls that you desire.
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:40 AM
2

It's a numbers game. If she's walking at a slow to moderate pace I would walk up, get within speaking distance and start off with excuse me I liked your outfit or xyz.
/r/seduction09/07/14 02:39 AM
1

In my FR I wrote how I tried to set up a firm date but got uncertainty
/r/seduction09/07/14 01:13 AM
-1

So what you're saying is I should just not text anything else and forget about it? What should I have done in the first place then. She seemed like she was up for it during our interaction, she texted me right then and there so I would have her number. I'm not exactly sure where I went wrong.
/r/seduction08/07/14 09:04 PM
2

Did you even need a trick? Seems to me that you could have just escalated as normal (close the distance, contact by hands) and then simply go for the kiss.
/r/seduction08/07/14 08:47 PM
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Lame advice. How am I being pushy? I'm trying to set up a firm date, do you have any in field experience?
/r/seduction08/07/14 08:35 PM
1

I'm 19 and she's probably 18 so drinks are out
/r/seduction08/07/14 07:36 PM
1

What should I text then? And when should I text
/r/seduction08/07/14 12:16 AM
2

This was done not in the US?
/r/seduction07/07/14 03:36 PM
1

What does that have to do with anything lol
/r/seduction07/07/14 06:25 AM
1

Honestly, it doesn't really matter to me
/r/seduction07/07/14 06:19 AM
1

I could do that. Honestly, if I was only doing this for results I would have gave up a long time ago. I'm simply looking at this from the frame of mind of having fun, the brief minute I have with these girls to talk to them, I'm going to have fun while it lasts and that is what ultimately will drive me to want to keep approaching girls
/r/seduction07/07/14 05:19 AM
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You'll find that once you've been doing daygame for quite a while your AA just goes away and you don't feel it anymore or as much. The next problem you'll run into is trying to get consistent dates but even then you should only be thinking about approaching for the hell and fun of it, and not for results
/r/seduction07/07/14 05:17 AM
1

On a date sure, but during the first interaction not really. I'll just do a handshake at the beginning and maybe a hug at the end
/r/seduction07/07/14 04:59 AM
1

Just make more attempts, try to establish some more common ground and then setting up the date if there is common ground, broaden the type of girls I approach, perhaps not just do streets and try more sociable areas like a coffee shop, shopping area, I would say bars but can't go to them because I'm not 21.
/r/seduction07/07/14 04:56 AM
1

I think I'm just getting unlucky and I usually approach a particular type of girls (asian girls). Most of the time asians aren't as receptive and open to a cold approach so flakes are common. I also believe that daygame can work but it is highly a numbers game, I wanna say that nightgame is more effective but I haven't gone out at night enough to discern that.
/r/seduction07/07/14 04:25 AM
1

I've gotten results, just not as much as I would like.
/r/seduction07/07/14 04:18 AM
-1

If I'm in a meeting and the conversation shifts to me I just say whatever I feel like saying and not care if people judge me/laugh/think I'm weird. It's that simple
/r/seduction06/07/14 06:08 PM
-2

You have to develop a personality
/r/seduction06/07/14 05:05 PM
0

Um, I think you'll have better luck at night. Did you already go out and try this? Write a FR about it, I'm interested to know what happens lol
/r/seduction06/07/14 03:09 PM
1

Are you doing this in the day or night?
/r/seduction06/07/14 02:22 PM
1

Just be honest. Say I'm new here and out alone. Nobody will give a fuck. And if they do then who cares
/r/seduction06/07/14 01:10 AM
0

I couldn't maintain contact with her for more than a couple of seconds. It was like tease dancing, not even sure how to explain it
/r/seduction06/07/14 01:07 AM
1

I'm just really questioning when the next time I have a girlfriend will be. It's fucking saddening and sickening. I honestly think I'm a decent guy, and I see all these couples out. I can't land one girlfriend at all? I don't even think I look ugly and I believe my personality is alright. I just don't understand, I simply do not understand
/r/seduction05/07/14 03:59 AM
0

Part of the reason I'm working out is because I know I would like a really sexy girl with a nice body, so I feel like I have to give back and be that sexy guy with a nice body. Another reason is that I want to get bigger, in highschool I was scrawny and I'm sick of being scrawny. Another reason is simply just that it's good health and I feel healthy doing it
/r/seduction04/07/14 03:20 PM
1

When I'm in set I'm definitely just enjoying the moment. The best way for me to describe it is as if me and the girl created a bubble around us which allows me to just focus on us and the conversation. I don't have active thoughts during set, I just say whatever and let things flow. I don't think out tactics during my set, my mind kind of works like this during set, let's say i just invited her out and she gave me an excuse, my brain is like: "bs excuse, keep talking". And I just do that, I gues…
/r/seduction04/07/14 03:18 PM
1

I think my physique is slightly noticeable right now. Arms definitely look more shaped. I still weigh nearly the same a month ago though, maybe 1-2 lbs more
/r/seduction04/07/14 02:52 PM
1

I'm not, I just don't like it when people give that kind of advice. If I haven't been focusing on girls and trying to better myself, I would never be where I am now
/r/seduction04/07/14 02:51 PM
1

If she read that she probably wouldn't care. I don't know, I can't read minds
/r/seduction04/07/14 02:51 PM
1

3:15 was a Freudian slip. The girl actually feels really comfortable when a guy is 3 centimeters from her face breathing on her eyes, probably if it's a guy she likes though
/r/seduction04/07/14 04:45 AM
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I don't like this advice. I hate this advice and I hate everyone who preaches it. What you're telling to me is to just wait. Just wait and it'll all happen right? I just sit back, focus on myself and a girl will fall onto my cock huh? You know what I say to that? I say fuck you and fuck your advice. I want to get better with women, and I want to make an effort towards developing a relationship. To me, girls and relationships should be a priority. Sex should especially be a priority. If you're te…
/r/seduction04/07/14 03:25 AM
1

I've been thinking about recording interactions. I might take the leap and upload some just to have them critiqued. I'd probably take them off the web afterwards though
/r/seduction04/07/14 02:52 AM
0

I might be putting very attractive women on a pedestal. Even though I don't like that phrase. I'm not worshiping these girls, I know they're just like any other person, they just look visually attractive to me. And because of their appearance it makes me want to try harder to pursue them and potentially have sex with them. I'm not sure if this kind of mindset is cancerous to me or not.
/r/seduction04/07/14 02:51 AM
-5

Naw, if I was in the same situation I'd leave if there were no condoms. Or I'd bring her to a corner store with me to get some
/r/seduction04/07/14 12:00 AM
-17

You're fucking crazy. You better hope you don't get AIDs and die a slow and painful death lol. Or worse, get herpes and have to scratch your dick every day for the rest of your life.
/r/seduction03/07/14 11:29 PM
0

Your words are touching me. They're changing my mindset. I think the problem is that I want things to work out so badly sometimes with certain girls, because they simply appear very attractive. Obviously if things don't seem like a two way street, I should stop pursuing, but some people mention that at times you have to plow for a girl, and that a little bit of persistence could lead to results. I'm not sure what is actually true and what isn't.
/r/seduction03/07/14 11:02 PM
0

Recently I got owned by a girl I went on a date with. We've been texting a bit after the date because she went on a vacation so we weren't able to meet up. After two weeks pass and she's back in the city I invite her out to grab some bubble tea. She says she just wants to spend the next couple of days simply relaxing and shopping. This was pretty bullshitty of her (not wanting to spend time with me). I then try to make 4th of July plans with her later on in our text conversation. She says her pl…
/r/seduction03/07/14 07:55 PM
0

That's stupid
/r/seduction02/07/14 10:20 PM
8

Why do you want to do this?
/r/seduction02/07/14 01:43 PM
1

I could potentially go with a friend and his friend group but last time I hung out with them I didn't really enjoy it. Felt like I was just hanging out alone and couldn't connect with them
/r/seduction02/07/14 11:24 AM
0

Sorry but I don't think you know what you're talking about. When I go into each interaction I plan on having fun and getting to know the girl. It's a lot different from when a guy comes up and tries to sell something because you immediately know they want your money. If I come up with an observation or a situational opener followed by an introduction she'll know that I want to make conversation. What I don't like about your point of view is the whole just sit and see what happens thing. If you s…
/r/seduction02/07/14 11:21 AM
1

Probably would have been better to be texting at least once or twice a week after the date so you guys are some what connected. You can hit her up again but depending on the girl she may not respond back to that text you plan on sending.
/r/seduction02/07/14 02:42 AM
0

Try to close the distance with her, sit down together at a bench, get close to her and see how she reacts. If she's looking at her phone and shit and just feeling like she wants the interaction to end then just back off. If she rejects your approaches it's best to just stop, she doesn't like you like that. If you can get away with doing lesser things like just sitting closely, legs touching, then just work with that for a while and gradually see if you can ramp things up. Don't push it though, i…
/r/seduction02/07/14 01:15 AM
0

Talk with no filter. These guys are your friends. When you're with friends you can joke around, laugh, say outrageous shit, and none of them will judge you. Why? Because they're your friends. So just let loose and say what you please, make the jokes you want to make and do the things that you want to do. Enjoy the moment, have fun. If you're close with these guys you'll have a great time just laughing and joking with them. If everything is new then just be open minded and think of them as friend…
/r/seduction01/07/14 11:26 PM
-1

If someone has their shit together, meaning: finances in check, works out, good nutrition and a couple of hobbies, then they shouldn't feel bad about spending time pursuing girls.
/r/seduction01/07/14 10:45 PM
3

Too many pussies, letting their morals cloud theory n shit
/r/seduction01/07/14 10:24 PM
-1

It's the truth man, the cold hard truth. I'm sure she could have a great personality once I get to know her; but from what I'm seeing appearance wise, i love it.
/r/seduction01/07/14 10:21 PM
0

If I shouldn't try to set up the 1st date during the interaction, what should I try to be doing instead? I don't think my results will improve if I just take the number and leave.
/r/seduction01/07/14 10:09 PM
0

Maybe I should rephrase what I said. There are things you can do to increase your chances in having more sex. But ultimately you cannot have sex whenever you want. If this was possible, we wouldn't have so many sexually frustrated males who exist.
/r/seduction01/07/14 04:48 PM
0

Thanks for this input. I think I'm just too eager and I need to destroy this mindset. I always seems to be doing a lot of chasing and pursuing but never just leave some space for the girl to put in the effort. I'll change up my tactics today
/r/seduction01/07/14 11:22 AM
0

I really would like to believe that on the street a guy can just pick out hot girls, walk up to them, and be able to get a date with her 90%+ of the time. I don't think the world works like that though. Maybe it is my game, maybe it's just luck, who knows. Also, I've recorded some of my interactions but never uploaded any. Not sure if I wanna put my voice out there of me picking up girls lol. Also, going through and censoring everything seems time consuming. I'll send you a message with the deta…
/r/seduction01/07/14 10:54 AM
0

There's a good post on this thread called "How I ask out women". I think that it's in the top post. Anyway, the guy says that if a girl is wishy-washy, you reject her before she rejects you. Sometimes the girl gains interest in you after you do that because it shows that you're not some loser that will take her shit, and even if it doesn't work it gives you the satisfaction of knowing that you rejected her. So, I recommend you read that post and apply it. FYI, if a girl has to think twice, you'r…
/r/seduction01/07/14 10:49 AM
0

Alright, I'm gonna try that today. I'll suggest we grab coffee and then ask her what days work for her. I guess this will let me screen properly so I don't just push for the firm date and then end up having it flaked.
/r/seduction01/07/14 10:41 AM
0

Then help me man, please, fix me up. Tell me what I need to do and I'll do it, please EDIT: By the way, I was able to determine that the last girl in my post in fact gave me a real number so our date is going to be happening tomorrow. I'm good in that department, but man I REALLY want to go on a date with that korean girl. If I tell you the full situation and what I've texted so far (sent 3 texts, no replies) could you let me know what I have to do now to secure this or if I could even still pos…
/r/seduction01/07/14 03:10 AM
0

What if during the short length of the interaction, I believe I did the best that I could? I had good tone, smiled, conversation was great, made jokes, was present yet I still got flaked. I think if this was an exam I'd have gotten at least a 90%. It's starting to feel like a numbers game
/r/seduction01/07/14 02:08 AM
0

You are so uplifting
/r/seduction01/07/14 01:58 AM
0

I'm in a big city. I wish I knew what I was doing wrong. Part of me just thinks it's a numbers game and that I shouldn't take these flakes/rejections too personal
/r/seduction01/07/14 01:57 AM
0

I hope so, I really do
/r/seduction01/07/14 01:37 AM
1

Yeah, this life is sad
/r/seduction01/07/14 01:30 AM
-2

You'll never be able to control the amount of sex you get. Why? Because in order to have sex you need a woman, and you can't control the actions of another individual. Therefore you cannot control how much sex you get. Understand?
/r/seduction01/07/14 12:21 AM
-1

You won't be able to get any girl you want on the street.
/r/seduction30/06/14 11:36 PM
-4

And I feel horny because that korean girl was so hot, I wanted to stick my penis inside of her
/r/seduction30/06/14 11:12 PM
0

See, that's where you're wrong. What I got from those replies is that I'm not doing anything inherently wrong, it's just that these flakes are a part of the game and the process. So, no you did not tell me what I am doing wrong. And you are wrong and you should feel wrong.
/r/seduction30/06/14 10:55 PM
0

You haven't told me what I'm doing wrong, you're just avoiding the questions that I am asking.
/r/seduction30/06/14 10:52 PM
-1

Yeah it's 80% a numbers game, 20% game.
/r/seduction30/06/14 10:43 PM
1

I think it's just a numbers game. Most people who've had success wouldn't dare mention how many girls they had to actually approach before they got to where they are.
/r/seduction30/06/14 07:54 PM
2

Um, why didn't you just tell her no I don't want to see a movie, let's do something else. And if she kept pushing for the movie you either just suck it up and watch that shit, or stop replying to her texts.
/r/seduction30/06/14 05:46 PM
2

I think when I was 16 I was still playing video games with 5 other dude friends in my mom's basement, congrats
/r/seduction30/06/14 04:56 PM
1

I tried it and I realized it doesn't make a difference at all
/r/seduction30/06/14 04:51 PM
2

Not really sure what I'm specifically doing. But today I went out and managed to set up two dates (kinda). Thing is, I was feeling great the whole day and after I got their numbers I only texted at the end of the day to confirm the dates. Haven't gotten a reply though. I think what I'm gonna do is come date time I'm gonna text them like 1-2 hours before the scheduled time and just assume their coming lol. Cause during set we agreed on like "tomorrow at 8", didn't say a specific coffee shop thoug…
/r/seduction30/06/14 04:46 AM
2

Nope, you are wrong. If OP goes up to a group of 4 girls and starts dancing right in front of them or in the middle of their circle, then he is dancing with them. So no it is not impossible.
/r/seduction29/06/14 10:56 PM
1

They're ivy league though. Maybe it does have something to do with it... And yeah, I'm going to try to make each of my approaches different/more fun
/r/seduction29/06/14 05:39 PM
2

I honestly think it's my enivornment. I do most of my approaches around an ivy league campus. These girls are smart as h ell, well over 2100+ on SATs. I feel like most of them just want to study/work all day and spend all their time on their degree. I've never been that ambitious so perhaps I don't understand that frame of mind. The reason I'm considering this is because one time I was home in new jersey, hanging out with my friend who goes to state college there. We go out cause I told him I wa…
/r/seduction29/06/14 02:40 PM
-4

My life does suck though. And you should feel bad for me, I'm a lonely loser that needs sympathy.
/r/seduction29/06/14 05:03 AM
1

I see, what I'm envisioning is girls will mostly be in groups. Probably in pairs. So what I plan to do is just walk up to them outside the bars, say some line, maybe compliment them, and since it's nightgame try to close the distance/get physical immediately with one of them. If that manages to hook I'll try to bounce to get food, or take a walk, whatever, and then tell the friend we'll be right back. And then just go off and then later bounce to my place. That's how I see it working out in my h…
/r/seduction29/06/14 05:01 AM
-3

Not funny man, I got rejected
/r/seduction29/06/14 04:09 AM
-1

What do you think I should have done instead? Just wait? And then what when she never replies? Also, what's most likely not going to happen
/r/seduction29/06/14 02:11 AM
-1

You're a female? Also we agreed on something tomorrow afternoon. If she doesn't reply back soon, I'll never know and be in suspense. I need to know if it's happening or not so I can plan my schedule accordingly...
/r/seduction29/06/14 02:05 AM
0

Still don't think it would have mattered
/r/seduction29/06/14 02:03 AM
0

Would it have really mattered??? She probably would have just never responded and it would have been over anyway man.. If she didn't actually see it yet and does see it and was considering it she should respond out of courtesy because we set something up for 1pm
/r/seduction29/06/14 01:57 AM
0

Dude I honestly think it was over already. I'm pretty sure she was never going to reply back anyway.
/r/seduction29/06/14 01:41 AM
1

How many men have approached you? And have many men have you approached?
/r/seduction29/06/14 12:27 AM
0

Approaching at 17 is weird, you couldn't even fuck anyone.
/r/seduction29/06/14 12:25 AM
-4

I'm 19. I'm hoping that by the time I hit 21 I can step into a bar and pull a bitch home, preferably asian, but I'll settle for anything as long as I can get my first lay from a bar
/r/seduction29/06/14 12:24 AM
-9

Male bartenders don't get so much tail. Most are sex less virgins
/r/seduction29/06/14 12:23 AM
0

It's reached the 2 and a half hour mark. I know she saw it. Let's be real, what college girl doesn't check her phone at least once within an hour. When I approached her she was on her phone lol. I just texted her "hey we're still doing this??"
/r/seduction29/06/14 12:14 AM
1

I prefer big titties that wiggle.
/r/seduction28/06/14 11:40 PM
1

It's been 2 hours now, still no reply
/r/seduction28/06/14 11:31 PM
1

What I recommend is walking up to chicks completely self amused. Make sure whatever you say is outcome independent and that you can kino whenever you get the opportunity. When it seems like the set is hooking, lean in for the k-close and then attempt the pull.
/r/seduction28/06/14 05:05 PM
1

"Their fucking fat hinders your cock" lol'd
/r/seduction28/06/14 05:03 PM
0

I prefer moderate weight girls with big tits
/r/seduction28/06/14 02:05 PM
1

Go ask him what? If 100 approaches is nothing?
/r/seduction28/06/14 01:42 AM
0

I don't think it's nothing. Either way I still haven't been getting consistent results. Too many flakes. I'll still keep trying though, I hope that I can get this right sooner rather than later
/r/seduction28/06/14 01:33 AM
1

True, it's just that when you do actually go out and be genuine you realize that it's not like the movies and everything just doesn't perfectly work out =/
/r/seduction28/06/14 01:32 AM
1

What do you mean perfect? No body is perfect. In the real world, I feel like a situation like that could've turned out quite differently.
/r/seduction28/06/14 01:31 AM
1

YESS, that's the exact one. I wish I met such a cute girl like that and was able to hit it off just as nicely :(
/r/seduction27/06/14 11:16 PM
1

You may be right. But part of me just thinks it's the type of girls I'm approaching and maybe the enivornment. I think my foundation is pretty solid and it's just that I'm approaching more studious girls. I usually do my daygame around an IVY league college campus. So naturally most of the girls are going to be wanting to just focus on school, work, degree and etc. I mostly approach asian girls but about an hour ago I approached like an italian girl I believe and I just let conversation flow. I …
/r/seduction27/06/14 07:39 PM
1

I understand what you're saying but what about times when you try to set up the date and the girl gives an excuse or says she'll be busy for the next couple of days. I'd rather not try to push and set up a date after being denied it twice already. Also, your first text you ever send is a confirmation text? I try to set up dates but I always get an excuse thrown at me such as busy, work, moving in, class, almost anything. The thing is one time I tried to set up a date with this girl, I think we m…
/r/seduction27/06/14 06:26 PM
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I just want to know for statistical purposes. Because I've been mixing up my approaches and putting in the effort and from what I'm seeing after about 10 numbers I'd say around 3 reply back.
/r/seduction27/06/14 04:46 PM
1

So let's say you get 10 numbers. About how many of those numbers will reply back?
/r/seduction27/06/14 04:19 PM
1

I would agree with you but I would just like to point out a couple of instances where I have gotten royally screwed. One was when I invited a girl I was into to grab some froyo. She goes to my university which is small as fuck so chatting over facebook was standard. We talked a bit in real life too and I thought shit was going to go down. During our walk to get froyo she tells me she has a boyfriend lol. This has happened about one or two or others and this is why I've been using the word date b…
/r/seduction27/06/14 04:17 PM
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I'm in the city too, I just have a usual spot I got to that is walking distance. I suppose I could start venturing out but I don't want to pay for transportation each time I wanna just go out and daygame a bit.
/r/seduction27/06/14 04:13 PM
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Just because you practice pick up doesn't mean you'll get consistent results. Take it from a guy like me whose already done several approaches. When you're hitting that road block of not getting a consistent response rate or consistent dates and you want to advance to the next level but don't know how, this subreddit can be a good resource of information to let you know what you could be doing differently.
/r/seduction27/06/14 03:38 PM
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I see, what's your response rate like? As in for every number you get how many of them actually reply back? I know that you have to set up a firm date during the interaction and then get the number. But sometimes the girl would be in a rush so it simply isn't possible. In that case I would take the number and I remember one time I actually was able to get a date with this girl through setting it up by text.
/r/seduction27/06/14 03:35 PM
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Since you do daygame, have you ever felt that you would run out of attractive girls to approach? I feel like that sometimes. I have a usual place to approach and I've opened quite a bit of girls already. I hope I don't exhaust all the attractive girls in that area
/r/seduction27/06/14 03:31 PM
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To find a great girl, develop intimate feelings with her, and to end my sexual scarcity. That's ultimately what I'm here for.
/r/seduction27/06/14 03:13 PM
1

When you're setting up a day 2 do you use the word date? I don't think it matters but I've been doing that lately, saying "we should go on a date tomorrow afternoon" and then follow it up by suggesting coffee.
/r/seduction27/06/14 03:12 PM
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Okay I'll try not using the word date, and I'll see if I can go from an insta date back to my place
/r/seduction27/06/14 02:17 PM
1

My approach is usually I see a cute girl walking on the street, I try to make eye contact and smile, we pass each other, then I turn around and go up to her and say "excuse me, I was just walking by and I saw you and thought you were really cute and I wanted to say hi". I give my name, take her's, ask her what she's doing today, what she's been up to, where she's going now. Sometimes I'll ask about her major if it leads to that, then talk about if she's working or has summer classes. I try to fi…
/r/seduction27/06/14 05:10 AM
1

What if the girl is in a rush though? Is it best to just not get the number at all? Also have you ever done insta dates or same day lays?
/r/seduction27/06/14 04:50 AM
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How do I actually find a solid group of friends though? The thing with me is that my university is REALLY small. Essentially everyone in my year already knows who I am and they have already developed an impression on me. Almost everyone has their own friend group or just chooses to be under the radar and do their own thing. Right now it's summer and I'm working here so most of my friends are gone. During the school year I do have a couple of guy friends who I could hang out with, but it's not li…
/r/seduction27/06/14 12:26 AM
1

She wasn't attractive at all though. At least to my standards. Not sexy, not cute, I just wasn't feeling it.
/r/seduction26/06/14 09:42 PM
1

I see, I believe I am intermediate
/r/seduction26/06/14 09:18 PM
2

I hate tinder, fuck that app
/r/seduction25/06/14 10:41 PM
1

Didn't start yet, have to wait an hour so I can get my mail, once I have that I'll be heading out
/r/seduction25/06/14 08:03 PM
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Go fuck yourself fagot
/r/seduction25/06/14 02:34 AM
1

Dude, I just went on tinder, swiped through at least 100 girls in 15 minutes. Got two matches, you know what they were? Two fat black bitches. One of which tells me she use to have a dick. Lol like seriously, fuck this
/r/seduction25/06/14 02:15 AM
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You're fucking yourself up dude. Like, you are so miserable it's sad. How long has this girl been leading you on? Dude, just please, do better for yourself, all you really this much trash? Listen dude, either A) text her right now and tell her you wanna grab coffee with her again tomorrow and see what she says, or B) just stop texting her. Your situation is so weird as fuck, just run from this girl, the shit you're going through sounds retarded.
/r/seduction25/06/14 01:35 AM
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Tinder is retarded
/r/seduction24/06/14 11:23 PM
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It isn't fair that this guy is being downvoted. I don't agree with this mod's post at all.
/r/seduction24/06/14 11:22 PM
0

She said fuck you to you? Your situation is so weird as fuck, I don't even know how I can help you
/r/seduction24/06/14 11:09 PM
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No one is thinking the first phrase when a guy asks a girl out without rapport. Girl wouldn't even be thinking it at all, and neither the guy. In fact if the girl is physically attracted to the guy on first glance, the guy wouldn't even need rapport. Also, rapport will help, but it will not ultimately decide if a girl will say yes to your date invitation, which is one of the reasons why you shouldn't worry much about it.
/r/seduction24/06/14 04:08 PM
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No. You can ask a girl out at any point. Will rapport help you to a degree? Yes. But that doesn't mean if you asked a girl out at your university without building a shit ton of rapport and she said no, that she would say yes instead if you had a shit ton of rapport. Rapport does not guarantee a date.
/r/seduction24/06/14 04:06 PM
0

Nice FR, I have such a hard time finding attractive AND open girls like this during the day. I'm almost always approaching asian girls who just end up rejecting me a kiss on the first date, let alone letting me lay them the same day we met lol... what an interesting way life is
/r/seduction24/06/14 04:02 PM
0

That's not good. If you know you have other responsibilities you shouldn't go out. If you can't control that then you literally have a mental problem.
/r/seduction24/06/14 03:17 AM
3

Watch the latest free tour video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6CkM8xc4xw Tyler makes some legit shit in my opinion. I've watched some of julien's stuff but I didn't like it. Most of his advice doesn't have as much substance as Tyler's. And you can tell that some of his advice contradicts other advice. That's why I only watch Tyler's stuff.
/r/seduction23/06/14 10:49 PM
1

I shake hands, that's standard. Don't make a big deal out of it
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:57 PM
2

Get some experience, do some daygame. After a couple of approaches you'll start to not give a fuck. Once you've reached that level go to a bar and try to aim for girls in pairs. You're probably right that there will be very few or 0 girls there alone. But there will probably be a fuckton of pairs, those should be your targets. Also, you can approach a group of 2 girls and 1 guy but it may be a bit more difficult. I suggest aiming for the pairs for now
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:56 PM
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OP, stand up against this faggot. Everyone in your group doesn't like that faggot but doesn't want to do anything about it. Next time you walk in with your group, find a smaller table so you guys can fill it up and have no extra seats available. Or just text the people who you're close with and the girls that you wanna sit at a new table, then meet up and go there and chill out. If he comes to your new table tell him to fuck off.
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:53 PM
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This isn't good advice. OP doesn't need any witty lines. Fuck this retarded witty line shit. OP just needs to look that faggot in the face and tell him "go fuck yourself". OP just say whatever rage inducing thing you want to say to him. If this guy is insulting you, take that as an invitation to unload what you truly think about this guy, just tell him "you're a fucking piece of shit and you need to take the dick out of your mouth" say whatever you want to that faggot, no matter how vulgar it is…
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:49 PM
2

Honestly, the best thing OP should do if the guy goes up and talks to him, OP shouldn't even look at him, just keep doing whatever he was doing and not acknowledge his presence. If he says, what are you fucking gay bro, I would have just turned to him and been like "go fuck yourself" and then continue on with what I was doing. If he's like woah why are you being so defensive, I would just be like "get that dick out of your ass bitch" LOL seriously. This guy is probably a mega chode, and even if …
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:41 PM
3

Okay listen up, let me give you proper advice on how to deal with this bullshit. I'm tired of everyone giving the same advice here which involves: giving some witty remark right back at him in hopes that everything he says will stop, or trying to fight him. The truth is, if this guy is as much of a fuck as you explain, he'll never stop being that way, he'll always be a fuck head. But wanna know the good news? No one likes a fuck head, so I'm willing to bet my left nut that all the other guys and…
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:24 PM
1

You're planning this out too much. Stop thinking about this girl and this situation. There are other girls out there that you can approach at any time. If you really want to do this at least approach all other girls you find attractive in the area that you're in. Also, I recommend you don't do this, going to the train station at a certain time just to wait outside for her and talk to this one girl? You're jumping through hoops for no reason.
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:14 PM
2

Why do you want to have arguments with people? If someone doesn't see your point of view you try to understand it from theirs and if it's not convincing to you, you stick to your guns and leave it at that.
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:09 PM
1

Phone calls aren't awkward. They're better than texts but should be used at appropriate times. In this generation when you get a girl's number you usually text and not call. After you've been texting back and forth and went on a couple of dates to establish that this isn't just a one time thing, calling her would seem more comfortable.
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:08 PM
2

Just go out again tomorrow and talk to at least one girl in the bar. After you do that you'll start to feel warmed up and excited and you'll want to talk to some more girls. Not that hard.
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:04 PM
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The only relation I have with RSD is watching tyler's videos on youtube. What I can say about those videos is that they're not bad. Tyler talks about some cool shit in them and it gets you thinking most of the time. I think everyone can learn something from watching Tyler's videos
/r/seduction23/06/14 07:00 PM
1

Recently divorced? Wow you left out so much details lol, no one can even give you solid advice now because next thing you're gonna tell me is she got divorced right before your date
/r/seduction23/06/14 04:23 PM
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Have a general idea of what you want to happen. For example let's say you have a date. You can say to yourself okay so I want to try and kiss her on the date and then afterwords go for a walk and eventually back to my place. Minimal planning like that is good because it lets you get your logistics sorted out. You can't plan for everything though so stressing about every little thing you're going to do is a waste of time.
/r/seduction23/06/14 04:11 AM
1

I don't understand your problem. Just text when you can text. Why are you making a big deal out of nothing
/r/seduction23/06/14 04:07 AM
1

Your situation is weird as fuck.
/r/seduction23/06/14 04:06 AM
1

I don't know if it's completely over with this girl and I don't know if you could revive it. But what I do know is that you shouldn't do the 2 texts/1 call method, whatever that is. Again, once you start noticing her disinterest, stop texting, ideally be the last to text, and then try to kick it up at a later point, perhaps tomorrow or the day after. Also, when you said you were making out throughout the night and fooling around in the car the way you interpreted it could be a lot different to t…
/r/seduction22/06/14 03:59 PM
1

You didn't really do that bad of a job. You should have just started off by saying "hey you actually look really cute, wanna grab a coffee tomorrow?". That would've been better. Also, don't let her response shame you or make you feel embarrassed. If what you said was calibrated then just own up to it and laugh, don't let her replies or body language destroy your frame and make you feel all insecure and shit
/r/seduction22/06/14 02:07 AM
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I think it's true too. Most people in general are not that good socially, meaning if they were thrown in a room with a bunch of people they never knew before they'd just squirm. Almost anyone can be social and fun around friends/people they recognize
/r/seduction22/06/14 02:04 AM
1

Get a job in a bigger town
/r/seduction22/06/14 02:03 AM
1

I know that handshake hug all too well
/r/seduction22/06/14 02:02 AM
0

Your FR is bad and you should feel bad
/r/seduction21/06/14 11:27 PM
1

Doing daygame is good. In terms of doing it in university though depends. Make sure it's a big university. Don't do it in a smaller one because you'll definitely run out of new girls to approach and you may see more of the girls around
/r/seduction21/06/14 08:46 PM
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This "field report" is trash. Just like most other reports have been lately, this one is simply a male who is probably over 6 feet and fairly attractive. The OP himself even said he got lucky, therefore you just admitted that this "FR" has no merit whatsoever, since it was all luck right? Honestly, you just wanted to post to brag to us that you got a threesome? Lol okay buddy. If that's not the case please explain what anyone can extract from this because the way I see it these girls just came u…
/r/seduction21/06/14 08:41 PM
5

First of all, remove from your mindset that you're trying to make these girls talk. You're not going to make these girls do anything, nothing you say will ever do that. Therefore, you shouldn't be giving fucks about their response rate or how much she's responding. What you need to focus on is expressing yourself and having a good time. If she isn't replying as much and seems to be wanting to continue on with her day then stop talking to her and find some girls who are cool to talk to
/r/seduction21/06/14 08:35 PM
2

Then go home, no one's forcing you to stay
/r/seduction21/06/14 08:22 PM
5

You're over thinking shit. People go to a house party to have fun. They don't come out of it over thinking every little aspect of what happened unless they're insecure. I've done that a couple of times, but it's important to learn that when you're at an event and you want to do something or say something, just do it instead of getting stuck in your head
/r/seduction21/06/14 05:57 PM
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Who cares. Seems like you're trying to hard. You shouldn't have to tweak your personality to be compatible with everyone, that's a waste of time and sounds stupid. What did you actually want to do with these girls, did you want to date them? fuck them? If you just wanted to talk to them then do that and say what you want to say. You can't force a connection with everyone and if you're at a large party the girls may want to just dance and have fun then talk for hours and develop a connection
/r/seduction21/06/14 05:37 PM
1

Here I'll tell you how you screwed up. First, we need to know how the first date went. Did you try to kiss her? bring her back to your place? If you did, what happened? The biggest way you screwed it up though was by trying to schedule the second date at the end of the first one. Not a good idea, it's best to just enjoy the date and end it nicely without actively trying to see if you can secure down date number 2. Also, if she didn't seem receptive to moving it to the next day I would've just st…
/r/seduction21/06/14 03:52 PM
3

You don't need a partner to do this. You can learn everything on your own. Also, go out 5 time a week
/r/seduction21/06/14 03:16 PM
1

Three ways to handle this 1) Stop hanging out with dicks and start hanging out with intelligent, funny, fun and considerate people 2) Laugh at their jokes and sometimes reply back with a joke of your own and continue laughing 3) Laugh at their jokes but quickly disregard them and move onto the next subject I recommend 1, while asking that girls age in a huge setting was a bad idea, the second incident is just too stupid. Normally I would just overlook these things but if you have a feeling that …
/r/seduction21/06/14 03:12 PM
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Isn't it easy as fuck to get laid in vegas? I picture it that every guy who goes there and has even a slight idea of what he's doing can just go to a club and bring back at least 1 girl to his hotel and fuck lol
/r/seduction21/06/14 05:19 AM
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Usually what I try to do is go for the kiss during the date. If it fails I would stop all physical escalation and just continue conversation and vibing. What I like to do is be the first to call off the date. Don't give her the opportunity to be like "oh hey I have to get going now". I don't think that's a good idea. If you know that she has to be somewhere soon or you think that she would wanna just leave the date then end it before she does. You may want to say something like "hey it's getting…
/r/seduction21/06/14 03:43 AM
5

Going out alone will always be ideal. At least for me anyway. Whenever I approach with another guy or a group shit just doesn't work out. Most of the time they're just plain newbs and have terrible mindsets that bring me down or hold me back, so I simply would rather not deal with that and just go out alone where I can be free to do what I want and be held for everything.
/r/seduction20/06/14 10:26 PM
1

I don't think this is fake. I think that the conversations may have seem scripted cause he filmed all day and some of the girls might have noticed him earlier with cameras out and shit. I wanna say that these are all real approaches. But some of what you guys are saying is true though: he sounds douchey and he doesn't sound quite too intelligent, those two points hinder his conversation abilities to a degree, and he is indeed wearing a stupid bandana
/r/seduction20/06/14 09:08 PM
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You didn't even explain what you said or your mindsets at all though. Seems like you just had physical attraction. And I take it you're not even american, no bars let in 17 year olds. And you said you're 6'4" and you have visible abs. Okay man... take it easy, not everyone is that tall and muscular
/r/seduction20/06/14 09:01 PM
1

Making eye contact on a busy street is retarded. Just go and approach
/r/seduction20/06/14 04:39 PM
5

Shoulda just whipped out the d right then and there
/r/seduction20/06/14 04:39 PM
2

Honestly I don't think confronting the problem with them directly will solve anything at all. You know what happens when you try to break out in all seriousness to your friends? They just laugh even harder and think you're still joking. And even if they are serious about it for one second, the next day the jokes will just continue. Your advice isn't so great either.
/r/seduction20/06/14 01:45 AM
5

Should have just done the freeze out to be honest. You said you wanted to fuck and you didn't care. Honestly I don't think the freeze out would have even worked but it might have been worth the try, there's no drawback when you do a freeze out
/r/seduction19/06/14 11:14 PM
3

What you just said is cancerous and stupid. If someone relentlessly teases you for weeks about something you did and you're still friends, you're just an idiot. Maybe you just decided to hang around with your 6 guy friends who like to draw dicks on each other during sausage fest sleep overs after you turned 18. But for any sense able, established male, they should have friends that they can joke around with but will not relentlessly tease. If my friends tease me I just laugh and keep talking. Th…
/r/seduction19/06/14 10:44 PM
1

Sounds pretty stupid that this happened. If your social circle found out that you were going out during the day or night to talk to cute girls that you see and they ridicule you for that then get new friends. Friends should accept you and what you do. Just think about what you're actually doing, going out to try and meet some new girls. There's nothing wrong with that, and if these guys can't handle that you're making a change then stop talking to them or just stop talking about pickup around th…
/r/seduction19/06/14 10:40 PM
1

I'm sorry you had to just stand 15-20 ft away awkwardly on your phone.
/r/seduction19/06/14 04:17 AM
2

I don't text everyday. I don't think it's necessary. What're you gonna text her everyday. I personally think it's too much unless it's a serious relationship and you guys are already super close to just wanna text everyday. Early on I think texting everyday is not a good idea.
/r/seduction18/06/14 08:19 AM
1

Look, if you've tried to schedule something at least two times and she's given an excuse each time with no suggestion for a new day then you MOVE ON. Seriously, I don't care how much more likely it would seem that you two would have sex. You don't keep coming back like a little dog after she rejects all your invitations, that's retarded. I have a feeling that you wouldn't mind just asking her out two times a week for 3 weeks straight and have her give you an excuse each and every time.
/r/seduction18/06/14 08:17 AM
1

Why can't you communicate with her in person? Because you already have such a history with her then move on, give this girl up. There's more girls out there so stop thinking that this girl is the only one you'll ever have a chance with, that mindset will destroy you.
/r/seduction18/06/14 06:00 AM
3

I don't think it matters, who cares. Text whatever the fuck you want, don't be compelled to be the last to respond or the first to respond, just do whatever you want
/r/seduction18/06/14 05:58 AM
0

Pretty saddening, you could've approached and probably set up a date for tomorrow and within the next 24 hours you could be going balls deep in her. Tough man lol
/r/seduction17/06/14 09:20 PM
3

Personally I wouldn't ask right away if they had a boyfriend. Just talk for a bit, develop your conversation skills. Once you ask her out on a date she'll let you know if she has a boyfriend or not.
/r/seduction17/06/14 06:45 AM
2

Has been decent, recently went on a date with a cute girl and it went nicely. I feel like something might come of this, but she's on vacation for 2 weeks so I'll have to pretty much busy myself and approach other girls until then
/r/seduction16/06/14 11:25 PM
2

Ugly girls probably have it terrible when it comes to dating. Actually maybe they don't, some guys may be desperate enough to go for a girl like that. But anyway, your post is right, the supply is way too damn low. Every guy wants the hottest girl available, that's just how life is. The problem is that there is a limited supply of hot girls. So what does that mean? It means the hot girls have their pickings of who they want. And if you really wanna stand a chance in this competition you better m…
/r/seduction16/06/14 11:22 PM
1

I guess it's a matter of style. What I usually do is handshake and occasionally a hug at the end if it's going well.
/r/seduction16/06/14 10:27 PM
0

I think tinder is stupid. If you're an average guy you won't get any matches. If you're an attractive guy you'll get matches and you'll be able to pull with little effort at all, you could just message whatever you want and get to the point of a date. Tinder is retarded, yes I am bitter, no I don't care
/r/seduction16/06/14 09:14 PM
1

This could work, I think it'd be better if you've already been texting and mid conversation you just throw it in there, hey i'm gonna give you a call now okay, and then call her immediately
/r/seduction16/06/14 09:12 PM
1

No need to call, just text. After you've met up for a date and things start to get rolling you can call, I recommend late at night, past like 10pm. She'll probably be in her room on the computer fooling around so it's a good time to give her a ring. What you could also do is text a bit and then mid conversation say hey I'm gonna give you a call okay, and then just call. Note: I haven't tested any of this
/r/seduction16/06/14 09:12 PM
1

That may apply to nightgame but I don't think you understand daygame. During daygame you see a hot girl once and a while. That being said, you may walk around for 20-30 minutes until you see an attractive girl to approach. So it does get draining, and no you shouldn't touch people when you talk during a daygame approach (except for a handshake and at most a hug). Oh and you might reply with "just approach everyone", for new people that's good, but if you've been doing this for a while you should…
/r/seduction16/06/14 09:08 PM
1

Clicked link, saw two people making out, determined this a pick up site that wants to sell you shit, left site. Oh, then I looked at your username, now I realize you're trying to sell us shit, lol.
/r/seduction16/06/14 05:32 PM
1

One day I tried to do 20 daygame approaches, I only made it to like 7. By the end of it, it started to just feel like a chore.
/r/seduction16/06/14 05:30 PM
2

Opening 100 girls in a day is stupid, you'll drain yourself out and won't even be having fun anymore
/r/seduction16/06/14 05:09 PM
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Online game is retarded. For all the average guys out there reading this post just move along, giant waste of time to read this
/r/seduction16/06/14 07:07 AM
6

Um it's only awkward if you think it's awkward. I used that same exact opener yesterday on a girl I met walking around campus and today i had a date with her. Your choice to not give any fucks and just do it
/r/seduction15/06/14 11:01 PM
1

I'm not good looking, just an average looking dude. You stop them and say hey I was just walking on my way to ___ and i saw you and thought wow this girl looks pretty cute i have to stop and talk to her, what's you're name? And that's it
/r/seduction15/06/14 10:19 PM
1

Um, what I usually do is just smile, pause for a bit, and then simply say "it's fine" and keep talking. You didn't have to excuse yourself to the washroom
/r/seduction15/06/14 05:51 PM
1

You don't have to text anymore if you don't want to. Just text thursday night to let her know frisbee is still happening on friday
/r/seduction15/06/14 02:47 PM
2

Don't do it if you seriously wanna see this girl again. Almost all girls will never text or call you if you give them you're number, just take theirs
/r/seduction15/06/14 02:42 PM
1

It was stupid, I said the girl was really gorgeous and I just had to say hi. While I was working up the courage to do this my face was extremely red and my body was warm as shit
/r/seduction15/06/14 07:18 AM
0

No, approaching from behind is the easiest way to approach during the day. Say excuse me and then stand in front of her
/r/seduction15/06/14 07:17 AM
1

Approach her, tell her you thought she was cute and you wanted to chat. Set up a date
/r/seduction15/06/14 07:16 AM
1

Be high energy guy, grind on girls. That's it
/r/seduction15/06/14 07:14 AM
2

You just got unlucky with that girl
/r/seduction14/06/14 10:55 PM
0

You don't even need a wing. Me personally I don't like going with wings because almost all the time they never want to do anything/ they make a fuckload of excuses not to approach anyone so it just ends up holding me back which I don't like
/r/seduction14/06/14 06:26 PM
0

Go work out and pull asian girls, I don't understand your problem
/r/seduction14/06/14 05:58 PM
1

Instead of being like all those other guys dancing around the group, you could've jumped in there, dance for a bit, and then put your hand out to one of the girls, basically just making a move since all the other guys are too afraid to do anything
/r/seduction14/06/14 05:47 PM
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Indirect doesn't make your intentions clear. No one can read your mind. If your intentions aren't clear to her from the start then she'll most likely get creeped out. There is absolutely no good reason not to go direct, most guys are just afraid to do it
/r/seduction14/06/14 05:40 PM
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Direct is simply better than indirect. As mentioned before, girls don't know if you like them. You could be chatting up a girl in the day using an indirect opener and then suggest that you two grab some food later on and take her number. You then meet up with her and mid "date" she tells you she has a boyfriend. And then you've just wasted your time because you weren't direct. Most guys make up excuses and bitch out all the time when it comes to direct approaches. They try to rationalize not eve…
/r/seduction14/06/14 05:13 PM
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You don't need to learn how to dance at all. Why care about dance moves at a club, just go in there, jump around and throw your arms up, if you're able to comfortably do that on the dance floor than you're in state
/r/seduction14/06/14 05:01 PM
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If I was 21 with a decent amount of money I could definitely see myself going to clubs/bars for 3 nights straight and eventually get laid on one of those nights, legit
/r/seduction14/06/14 04:56 PM
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You need to think about this in a promotion oriented mind set. Go online and watch pick up videos, I've done that and after watching I always feel so much more motivated to go out and do shit
/r/seduction14/06/14 04:51 PM
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At the age of 23 I would never date someone who is 30+ let alone 49. But that's just me, I want a quality, young and attractive girl
/r/seduction14/06/14 04:50 PM
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When a girl blows you off she'll usually just walk away. What I do is still be polite about it and say, alright it was nice chatting with you, and then leave
/r/seduction14/06/14 04:48 PM
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Instead and saying can I get your number I'm in a hurry, say "hey it was fun talking with you, we should go on a date this weekend" then get the number.
/r/seduction14/06/14 04:47 PM
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One thing that literally started getting me a shitload more dates is trying to secure the date during the interaction. Tell her you two should go on a date and then try to plan it right then and there. Be like, I'm thinking this saturday we get coffee at like 3, say something direct like that. If she agrees on that then you know you're in. If she says she doesn't know her schedule yet then she is going to flake on you so it's basically a no. Almost no girl will ever say no to the date directly u…
/r/seduction14/06/14 09:03 AM
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I don't use tinder or okcupid, it's a waste of time
/r/seduction14/06/14 08:20 AM
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I threw that part in because of a terrible date experience I had. The girl it was with wanted to take things slowly but I tried to escalate too much repeatedly on the first date which ultimately screwed me over and everything I had with her.
/r/seduction14/06/14 06:10 AM
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All you need for clubs: high energy. That's all you need, jump in the middle of the dance floor, start waving your arms around to the beat, find a group of girls to dance with and just take it from there
/r/seduction14/06/14 06:08 AM
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Anything, maybe start of simple with the environment or how her day was going. Then transition into something like music, vacations or fun activities that either of you have done
/r/seduction14/06/14 06:07 AM
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No
/r/seduction14/06/14 06:06 AM
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Just being able to keep a firm stance and posture. Don't be fidgeting, and just be relaxed. That's really what it all comes down to
/r/seduction14/06/14 06:06 AM
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That's good that this has happened to you, you have the right idea though, just keep your hands on her waist firmly and grind with her, afterwards you can transition by twirling her around and dancing face to face
/r/seduction14/06/14 06:03 AM
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While you're dancing for 2 minutes are you grinding? You should be grinding. Just go in with high energy, find a group of girls, dance near them so that they acknowledge you and then put your hand out to one of the girls and twirl her. Once you're mid twirl and her back is towards you just close the distance and begin to grind, place your hand on her hips firmly and move to the beat. Simple
/r/seduction14/06/14 05:21 AM
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I really wouldn't take the 120 a month goal to heart. Most of the hardcore PUAs out there will tell you that you need to do thousands of approaches to begin seeing results, but to be honest doing 120 daygame approaches in a month is ridiculous. Don't be counting your approaches, just approach reasonably, don't approach too little and don't approach so much that you don't even have fun doing it.
/r/seduction14/06/14 05:18 AM
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If plowing means something like: being able to continue conversation with the girl even though her friends just came up and joined and are telling her it's time to go yet her friend clearly wants to stay then yes plowing is good. I can't think of any other instances when you'd want to plow
/r/seduction14/06/14 05:16 AM
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I think plowing is more suitable for nightgame. I can't see plowing being an effective strategy for daygame. You can't even plow during daygame tbh, if the girl is giving you excuses to not give her number but you some how are able to weasel it out of her she'll just give you it and ignore your text later.
/r/seduction13/06/14 11:36 PM
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