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[–]Spacedust_ 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You are too harsh on yourself, chill out , this happens to a lot of people including myself. I am good at night game and I am really good at online game but for some reason all the n-closes I get from daygame turns out as flakes. This was frustrating for me, all the effort I put, and thinking all the good interactions I cant believe none of 40 something women didnt reply my texts that they gave me on the street. Until an expert daygamer started to listen my convos and watched my body language, turns out I had a lot of blind spots that I couldn't pinpoint myself. Like smiling while teasing, building too much rapport, not looking them in the eye while talking, not pushing all the way thru but rather leaving after getting their numbers etc.... So this happens other people too, try to stop worrying.
First lets start with Tinder, it is just a software algorithm that decides to show certain peoples profile on top and doesnt show other people's profiles. If it doesnt work for you just move on, sounds like you are attracting girls and making out with girls so you are not ugly.
Everyone has up and downs, this is life. Dont give up your powers, but try to learn from your mistakes.
Sounds like you are repeating a pattern, first try to push your interactions further , like same night lays, dont take phone numbers. Since I have been doing this my lay count increased, hit or miss but I dont take phone numbers at night usually.
Maybe you are not building enough rapport, maybe you are not trying to connect with them, finding what they are passionate about, maybe when they go back home they think who was that guy, I dont know anything about him.
Just try to spot your weaknesses and work on them, be patient. The harder you try the more you will sound needy and it is turn them off, try to get help from your wings and isolate your target and make sure you are connected with her in deep levels
[–]tarlack 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you need to look at communicating better. The thing that gives me this idea is you had a activity and a time you just needed to say yes, this place 12pm and you would be on a date. You give it to the next day and say plans for today??
I am also going to say look at quality of quantity, getting numbers is one thing but making out with four girls in one bar in a night is bad play. The conversation once she got back to her friend group is always "You know he made out with 3 other people, you don't need that player"
Look at adding value also, be interesting.. Smooth lines are good but it is better to have a girl want nothing more then to talking to you more.
[–]Vadriel 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The girl went out of her way multiple times to try and make plans with you, not only at the bar, but via text later after she asked YOU for your number. You were obviously doing something right, but you didn't commit, and when you did finally respond to her text a day later it was with a weak "Plans today?" instead of with a definitive plan for action.
Were you playing hard to get or something? Why didn't you just say "Fuck yes we should totally hang out tomorrow." She probably woke up the next morning feeling like she put herself out there too aggressively and felt embarrassed that you didn't reciprocate.
[–]childishgames1 points 10 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Why didn't you just say "Fuck yes we should totally hang out tomorrow."
I mean, I've done that many times before and gotten no response. Since that hasn't been working, I kinda figured that I'd try something different and not come on so strong since she seemed particularly interested. Interested enough to where I wasn't agonizing the wording of my text...
[–]rattamahatta 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You were theorising too much. Should have said "yes, I'd like that. X place at 10". One more thing you didn't mention how often you hit the gym.
[–]childishgames1 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
didn't mention how often you hit the gym.
I'm pretty skinny. I weigh like 160. I'm actually extremely athletic in terms of speed/quickness/jumping/etc. Not to sound like an asshole, but my speed/quickness/jumping is probably in like the 98th-99th percentile of white people. Just always been skinny.
When I go to the gym, it is pretty much exclusively to play basketball... for usually 2-5 hours. Haven't really committed to a weight training plan since high school.
I used to go to the gym every day. I've been trying to eat a lot more and I was starting to work out with weights. Then I sprained my ankle. Took a couple months off and now I've been going about once a week, just for BBall.
[–]rattamahatta 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should eat more and build muscle. Women don't need you jumping up and down like a flummi ball. You also don't need your ankle for bench press and curls. I used to be skinny like you. Only a certain percentage of girls prefer skinny over built. Eat a surplus and bulk up. Yes this is seduction advice. This could be the missing link for your game.
[–]Yalc_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Where were you going to college in the south-east? Just curious.
[–]childishgames2 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
UGA
[–]Yalc_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm down with that. Sic'em dawgs.
[–]hqlf 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you paid your phone bill?
[–]Mr-Prometheus 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I bet there is another guy who thinks has the opposite problem. He can go out on many dates and can't get to makeout. I would rather to makeout, get bjs and get laid. I never date actually my dates are to take some drinks or do something I find interesting and the girl follows. I am currently in a relationship with a 7/10 which treats me like a god.
[–]iliketurtlesdurr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
honestly bro... meeting girls at bars and clubs ... you gotta make it happen that night. You can have the most solid interaction ever, but if you let them leave, they're not going to text you back. Case in point, fingered a girl in the bathroom made her come, she was into bdsm, called me daddy, said she wanted my babies if we ever fucked, but hasn't texted me back.
there's also the very real possibility that you are coming on a bit too strong. Might be old wisdom, but girls need 3-7 hours of "comfort". If you are pushing too hard on the kino before they are comfortable with sex, they're going to feel like a slut meeting up with you again, because it's like "oh, I wonder what we're going to do if we meet up at his place". they need plausible deniability and comfort until you actually bring them to the sex location. don't sexual kino too hard until you can go the entire way.
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