Before I begin the FR I must tell you that I started off really shitty; a brown not so good looking guy with minimal attraction with females because of a religious upbringing, no female cousins, an all guys high school and an engineering university.
I was always pretty shy and awkward just talking to females and to be honest I still don't understand them much. So becoming a better talker with females was one of my first goals. I have only recently started going out and have now gone from being instantly shut-off to holding good convos and I can get the girls laughing which i assume is a good thing. Here is what I do now to have better convo, feel free to correct me:
-The first approach is the hardest and you gotta jump right in. Talk to even the guys you meet on the way to a club. After a few sets you have a good momentum which helps greatly.
-Approach as soon as you see the girl and she sees you.
-Assume attraction no matter what you are.
-Keep an upright posture. Go in slowly, preferably with a smile.
-Open with a statement about anything not related to her body like complimenting on her top etc. I personally think opinion openers have no place in a club. Why would anyone want to know who lies more, a guy or a girl in a loud nightclub environment?
-Don't be reactive to the negativity she or her friends throws out. Often times, the friend will cockblock even through the girl herself is interested. Just keep smiling. To be honest I just go open sets just to see what happens for self-amusement.
-Don't approach the same one more than once...never.
-Ugly girls are no easier than hot ones. If anything they are usually bitter at all the good looking ones getting approached like crazy and having fun while they stand there like sad fucks. I personally can never enthusiastically approach a girl I have no attraction to.
I have also just started trying to crack dirty jokes. For example, I saw a girl wearing a shirt with snakes on it and I told her that I liked girls who like snakes because I have a pretty big penis. I don't have enough data to say if this goes well or not. Thoughts?
I can easily close numbers but I am honestly getting tired of this shit. The next day they never reply no matter how good the interaction was.
I am now focusing on just having makouts and taking girls home but I am failing at it. I also get the boyfriend (shittest?) way too much.
Alot the problems may stem from the fact that I am not goodlooking but I have just accepted this recently and I need alternatives. I am sure a good looking guy should have this covered easily. Going hard may risk a guy like me being labelled a creep.
So my three problems summarized:
-Flakes: Am I not having good convos? Realistically the girl is drunk and there is no way she is gonna remember you the next day after being hit on so many times. One good idea I guess is to text her right away and get a thread started. But a better goal is to just makeout and aim for a pull. Numbers are like a last resort. Thoughts?
-Can't escalate: I have tried just jumping in and pulling the girl for a kiss after like a minute. They seem to be pretty hesitant. Any step by step procedure to do this? If I have a good convo, I do get some IOIs but I always pussy out with escalation. An example of how to go from opening to kiss would be great.
-Shittests: The most common one I get is the boyfriend card. I actually tell them they are bullshitting and alot of times they will pull their phone out and show me pics of their boyfriend (or even kids :S). Important thing to note is that I ask them explicitly if they are single. Other ones I get are that they are leaving soon, they are with their friends and that they are gay. Any thoughts on dealing with this?
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