Struggling with club game. Help needed!

Rorzon · 2013-09-28T13:18:28+00:00

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2013-09-28T13:37:54+00:00

1) I used to have a pretty crappy voice, mostly destroyed by a chronic sinus problem. With practice I fixed it so that is sound kind of heavy and less gay. I still can't talk to girls properly in clubs. My voice just doesn't stand out from the music. Is there a way to fix this?

Talk louder.

Beyond that, you also need to convey value with your speech. I have a friend who's excellent at being loud, but because he's so tryhard, nobody really gives a shit about what he says. So when you speak, there has to be that special oomph to it. I know that's shit advice because it's very esoteric and vague, and I apologize for not knowing enough in order to describe it well. It's one of those things where you know it when you see it. When you meet someone who just has a captivating aura about them.

Also, clubs generally aren't conducive to conversation. Generally speaking, clubs are more about high-energy physicality (e.g. dancing).

2) How do I learn to be more physical. I am scared that physical contact might creep her out. After how much conversation should I escalate and how? Should I look for any signs to keep going? I am a non-white kind of ugly dude so this is kind of tricky for me.

Look up kino.

Being physical isn't "okay after conversing for 2.564 minutes, I shall initiate physicality". I just do it when it feels appropriate. But, in many cases, you have to do it when it doesn't feel appropriate (just because you're not in the zone doesn't mean she doesn't want to be touched), especially for a novice who doesn't feel comfortable at all escalating physically.

Look for signs, but don't look for signs. I mean, don't harass a girl if she's very clearly not interested. But that doesn't mean you should wait for a sign either. Many women don't give obvious signs that they're interested. So just try something out, and if she's not into it, back off. If you make mistakes, that's fine. It's how you learn.

Whether or not you're white as absolutely no bearing on your ability to be physical.

3) Would daygame be easier than nightgame for an ethnic guy? I mean it's not like I have a bad personality. I have my shit together, I dress pretty well, and I am talented but its hard to convey all that in a noisy environment. I am just worried about running into those girls again and that will be pretty awkward if I failed badly. Any experiences here?

Day game is the same thing as night game, except that the sun is up. Whether or not you're ethnic has absolutely no bearing on your game.

It's good that you know you're strengths. I'm not saying this to make you feel better about yourself; I really mean it. Yeah, it can be hard to convey your strengths in a club. Clubs are loud and they can be super intimidating. Don't worry about it, practice makes perfect.

Don't worry about being awkward. Making awkward mistakes is a big part of the learning process.

I would advocate doing both day game and night game. Both are valuable skill sets that are very, very, very transferable to each other. They are, essentially, the same thing.

rmbarnes · 2013-09-28T13:55:52+00:00

How do I learn to be more physical. I am scared that physical contact might creep her out. After how much conversation should I escalate and how? Should I look for any signs to keep going? I am a non-white kind of ugly dude so this is kind of tricky for me

You just have to do it. I you need to get rejected due to escalating and being creepy a handful of times in order to learn how far / how fast you can push things.

As 60 years of challenge says, risk creepy.

1dollarballer · 2013-09-28T16:11:49+00:00

I have a similar voice problem and I was able to work on it by literally just talking slightly less (reserving my words for concise conversations) and being more physical (grabbing hands, arms, pull to the dance floor etc.) This thread may give you more insight:

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1mr9uz/voice_is_weak_croaky_squeaky_when_up_in_the_club/

joshsway · 2013-09-28T16:38:58+00:00

1) Club game is very non-verbal so you voice shouldn't matter that much. 2) How do you learn to be more physical? You just do it. It won't creep her out, if it does, she will just move away. No harm done. 3) Try both.

Also, check out this guys youtubes: http://www.youtube.com/user/DanceFloorSeduction?feature=watch

legendarypua · 2013-09-28T16:14:50+00:00

I'll try to answer these questions concisely.

1) Be loud, obnoxious, and high energy, its a club after all.

2) If you're going to get good at this you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that sometimes you will creep girls out.

3) You should do what you want. If you want to exercise day game do that, if you want to go out at night do that. A situation is only awkward if you make it awkward.

maddermonkey · 2013-09-28T10:09:43+00:00

Are you Asian?

Title	Struggling with club game. Help needed!
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Date	September 28, 2013 9:09 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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