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[–]IAmSad-Man44 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Roosh V Forum
There's your problem. Roosh has never been anything more than an attention whore who jumps on any latest trend to score more followers. The latest one is the alt-right movement, and all the dumbassery that their "feud" with the equally moronic social justice left has spawned.
Good Looking Loser forums are garbage too most of the time, and while they are wrong that it's impossible to attract any girl who isn't initially attracted to them (there's millennia of accounts that prove that particular tidbit wrong), they are correct that if you all want is just to get laid, even with an attractive girl, then all you need to do is talk to girls and ask them out. There's really no skill to it, in the end. Even the most needy, nice guys can get laid, provided they have the balls to make their intentions known.
[–]nonsass[S] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
they are correct that if you all want is just to get laid, even with an attractive girl, then all you need to do is talk to girls and ask them out. There's really no skill too it
But then, is there really such thing as 'game'?
I had a one-night -stand a while ago, and was proud of myself initially, thinking it was down to my 'game' - but I kind of realise now that she simply thought that I was hot, and that was it!
Similarly, sometimes i'll go out and approach loads of girls and get rejected and think ''my game must be crap!'', but maybe it's simply that they looked at me and decided I wasn't their type, and that was it!
I feel as though when someone says to 'learn game', they could almost just say 'learn to have the balls to approach! - you'll get lucky at some point!'. I don't feel as though kino and teasing etc (game) effects my results. GLL has a program called 'normal guy game' and they break all of the rules (interview questions/compliment openers etc) and lots of them hit high numbers in terms of girls laid.
With roosh, there are supposedly like 3 guys in the 'i just got laid thread' who are banging hot girls non-stop. like 5 new girls per week for years!
However, I found out that 2 of them guys are very good looking indeed apparently (from someone who met one of them and saw pics of the other) AND the majority of their bangs come from tinder. And the 3rd guy basically spends his life travelling to party environments where drunk teenagers have lowered their inhibitions. None of it seems much like 'game' to me! I'm having big doubts!
[–]TheXXL 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure there is. Think of it as a toolbox on how to handle certain situations you will face when you meet women. The knowledge of how to pass a congruence test, to even identify it as one. How do you respond when she has lmr? How can you be charming? The very fact that challenging women is the best way to get her to want you, instead of showering them with compliments.
I could go on with this list, but i guess you get the point. There are some behaviors that are perceived as attractive, and game is there to show them.
[–]Woujo 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
they are correct that if you all want is just to get laid, even with an attractive girl, then all you need to do is talk to girls and ask them out
that's not true. there are plenty of ways you can fuck it up
[–]pathe1 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
even here, some of the more respected people seem to imply that reading pickup material doesn't help, so maybe there isn't really anything to learn and it actually is a numbers game.
I think maybe the reason people say to 'practice' lots is not because you get 'better', as in, you start to understand some sort of psychology better and know what to say and when to say it etc, giving you the magic secrets to get with any girl, but simply because the exposure makes you less anxious over time, and anxiety can kind of scare girls away.
[–]ShadowWade 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey there.
Well I've been out of the game for a while. I am about the same age as that Good looking loser guy. And the truth is, I don't have the balls or the stomach to be rejected that many times. I have seen his videos and have cringed on occasion.
Maybe it works, but to me 1/140 approaches if a terrible failure rate. I'd rather have 10 good reactions, and successes than 139 failures. I think this is all about style, dress, persona, attitude etc. To me getting rejected so many times would batter the hell out of my self esteem and have me re-evaluate what I'm doing.
[–]Woujo 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
most people don't have the balls or stomach to do that. getting rejected is supposed to hurt - we evolved to not want to get rejected by fellow human beings. If you can take much rejection you've killed a part of your soul and you are a borderline psychopath.
[–]ShadowWade 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao
I have never heard of this "community" until today.
They seem to approach 'game' in a different way. Almost as if there is no SKILL in it. Nothing to really learn. Nobody has better 'game' than anybody else.
A lot of people are simple minded and want to reduce the world into a few simple ideas. They can't appreciate or handle the nuance and complexity of the world.
If they don't think that "game" is a thing, then, they are wrong. Game is definitely a thing and I know lots of good looking guys that get turned down all the time because they act needy, wooden, desperate, boring, etc....
That said, this community might be a backlash against a similarly wrong idea, which is that "game" is just a bunch of tips and tricks you do to fuck girls and that you can be an ugly loser and you can still laid if you say the magic words and do 5 little tricks. That's also equally as wrong, and it kind of makes sense that there is an equally retarded backlash that says the opposite.
They seem to just see it as a huge numbers game, where things like your looks and your logistics etc are the deal breaker, and where approaching is what's important to get you in the door and find a girl who is down to play! You're bound to find a girl who likes you at some point
That sounds like a horrible life.
Changes how yuo look at things. Remember it's a numbers game and maybe there's not much you can do to turn a 'no' girl into a 'yes' girl - in a way there is no 'game' to learn?
That's just wrong. Girls see guys as mostly blank slates. It's up to you to convince her you're cool. Looks matter a lot but they won't get you all the way there.
Very different from the rooshv forum where the guys write in a way that implies game is magic and you can basically bang whover you want once you learn the secrets and where pretty much every approach should result in a lay due to 'game'!
Yeah they are wrong too.
This is part of the reason I don't like PUA books and materials - they all have a kernal of truth in them, but its overshadowed by the stupid way they oversimplify everything.
[–]nonsass[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I kind of agree in some respect. My personal view is that 'game' does exist, but it's really more about not behaving in a way that turns girls off, like being super needy, or being unable to look them in the eye due to nerves etc. But in a way, I don't think that one needs a book to tell them this, and even if they do, i'm not sure a book can help!
As for a 'horrible life' in the case of teh GLL guys, I don't really know. Lots of the guys seem to be in their early 20's and have had sex with 50-100 decent looking girls, and if i'm honest, I'd love it if that was me as I feel bad about the small number of girls i've ben able to get in my life! However, they've had to approach girls like a machine gun in order to get them numbers (with a lot of help from tinder, too!). I personally get no tinder matches and would seriously struggle to find the time to approach 50 girls per day like them guys do!
My general philosophy on game is that it helps you get the girls who are naturally at least slightly attracted to you based on your 'look'. I guess i'm torn between the 2 communities mentioned before and fall somewhere in the middle.
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