How do I stop being a nice guy, and get what I really want?

roadsidebetty · 2011-08-17T01:19:55+00:00

well one of the ways is to friend zone the chick. ask her to fix u up with one of her "hot friends." I guarantee if she has any interest in you she will have a change of behavior it may be subtle look for subtle change in attitude. If she doesn't then she wasnt going to anyway. So move on.

johnny878 · 2011-08-16T20:45:48+00:00

ive fucked all my female friends atleast once. and i even white knight one or two of them some. i think guys and girls cant really be strictly platonic friends if you hang out with them long enough.

nice guys get laid all the time in real life as long as they make moves physically. I think the cocky dick angle is over played online as THE way to get girls by many.

washedawayy · 2011-08-17T03:49:10+00:00

There is nothing inherently wrong with being "nice." What matters with women is what kind of "nice" they perceive. You can be the doormat guy or you can be a genuinely good person. It seems like you are getting perceived as the "walk all over him and he'll stick around like a sick puppy" kind of nice. I've been where you are and it sucked. I had to look at what I was giving to people and getting in return. Chances are that you give WAY more than you get back; physical, emotional, everything. Nice doesn't mean you come at every call. Nice doesn't mean you buy things when they ask. Nice DOES mean that you treat others with respect, but also demand respect in return.

Some things that helped me out: * - Read and re-read No More Mr. Nice Guy by Dr. Robert Glover (read through, then go back and read again doing the exercises) * - Get practice talking to women (all shapes, sizes, levels of hotness, and intelligence)...I was a waiter, freaking awesome job for this. (I was awkward as a teenager - geeky, glasses, bad hair and this helped me learn to look past that...and I got laid like crazy even through 2nd year of college when I figured out how to dress and do my hair) * - Learn a little human psychology. * - Learn a LOT of anatomy, especially female. (I'm a nurse, don't let anyone tell you that knowledge of anatomy isn't important). * - Learn from what these girls complain about...but notice what they actually go for...chances are it's what they complain about. I'm not saying you have to change, just know that certain characteristics are attractive, but you don't have to have all of them to be a boyfriend or sleep with a girl.

TL;DR - "Nice" isn't always bad. Don't be a doormat, be genuine. You can learn from this and get past it.

TheAccidentOf85 · 2011-08-16T22:24:22+00:00

I joined Seddit because I got friendzoned by a girl I really liked recently...and this wasn't the first time a girl I really like friend zoned me. I got attraction, qualification, comfort.... I then failed to escalate. I had her back in my place, we were making out, I started some sensual touching, but I stopped myself like a bitch. In my head I said "Don't push things too fast, you like this one, you don't want to scare her away" Wrong attitude. When I had her over for some wine and pizza and started making out, I needed to f-close her there. A week later, I got the Lets Just Be Friends talk.

Escalate! And don't cock block yourself with your own thoughts! If she's not ready, she'll tell you, and just respond "Thats cool I respect that" But when you don't push your limits...Boom you find yourself in the friend zone.

If you have one that is a recent friend...I tried this line on a girl that I knew for a year, but considered a friend for about a month or 2. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/hjvs8/my_secret_that_has_been_perfect_55_in_getting/ Worked like a charm, I f-closed her a week later...on her birthday.

clutchPUA · 2011-08-17T18:21:59+00:00

1 don't make friends w/ girls you want. I'd rather lose a girl than be friends w/ a girl i want, cuz thats just self torture (but theres always exceptions).

2 go after what you want and state your intentions

Title	How do I stop being a nice guy, and get what I really want?
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Date	August 16, 2011 8:23 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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1 don't make friends w/ girls you want. I'd rather lose a girl than be friends w/ a girl i want, cuz thats just self torture (but theres always exceptions).

2 go after what you want and state your intentions