I often try to use all kinds of theories and lines etc that I read about and that have been field tested etc, yet I get bad reactions and the theory doesn't 'work'.

I might open with Brad.P's 'horse girl opener'

Me: This might sound random but.. Do you like horses? Her: Umm.. Yeah.. I guess? Me: I knew you'd say so. Listen. Back in kindergarden there's this girl who was over horses. She would be galloping round the playground and making weird horse noises during recess. We call her the weird horse girl. And guess what? She looks just like you!!! Her: LOL. I'm definitely not her. Besides what kindergarden did you go to? Me: I wouldn't admit it if I were you either. But it's ok. My friends and I used to bully and call you names remember? Haha. But I'm more matured now. And I promised to apologize if I ever meet you again. Well, I guess fate brought us together. Do you forgive me? Her: Haha. I forgive you. Me: It has been like.. 18 years or so since last seen each other? I think we should meet up. I gotta make up for what I did to you. We can go ride horses if you want? Lol.

But in practice it looks nothing like that. She might just look at me weird and 'backturn' as I dliever the 2nd line after her initial reply!

Similarly with a cold read such as ''ou seem like someone with lots of ideas but they tend to be a bit unrealistic'' which I found on a PUA site.

I deliver it and rather than talk back, she's like ''OoooooooKaaaayyyy'' and turns her attention elsewhere.

Now, when I read this stuff I admit that it does sound super cheesy and maybe a bit weird, but it's all from experts who have field tested this stuff and it all obviously conforms to 'pua theory' so it should work, despite what I think about how it sounds!

And then I guess maybe my delivery is off somehow.

I mean, is it possible that for some reason 'material' that used to work no longer does? Would this stuff have been attractive and intriguing etc before whereas now it just makes girls roll their eyes??!

ANy thoughts on this?

I feel like every PUA line sounds so cringey, but I want to find good material so that i can run game as opposed to just bore the girl with regular/''non game' conversation (name/age/job/ etc )