Just discovering that pickup is an art.Some things I want to accept but cant.(help if you can)

OrangeCantRhyme · 2014-01-12T05:56:02+00:00

Its nothing like that at all.

The pickup community likes to advertise that women can be read and then responded to like a system; information comes out, appropriate response goes in, success. Its a great marketing scheme, but it isn't how it works.

In reality, women are attracted to predictable things - Alpha males who will be able to provide for her and her children. In more relevant terms, this means a man who is confident, secure, high value, positive, and "manly". Pickup attempts to turn the demonstration of these characteristics into a logical system so that it can be explained and sold to other men.

Make no mistake however, this stuff does not work 100% of the time. Women aren't systems, they are far more complex with their own set of judgements, experiences and preferences. While one girl may be attracted to brown haired men, another might have had a terrible experience dating one and carry negative emotions towards them... which will totally ruin the chance of a brown haired guy trying to run game on her, even if he is flawless. (Try imagining selling a camry to a farmer. Even if your the best salesman in the world, that car just has no appeal. The farmer wants his truck).

In reality, game is not going to work even 50% of the time. Imagine 25% of girls are in relationships, 25% are on their periods, 10% are having bad days, etc... A lot of girls wont respond no matter how strong your game is.

So in short, no - women aren't things that can be read and tricked, and they are plenty worthy of respect. Game won't impress all of them, at most maybe you'll get 25% of girls interested. All you are doing is presenting the absolute best persona you possible can and hoping that the girl is in the right frame of mind to be open to your advance.

masterworman · 2014-01-11T23:58:19+00:00

You have to change your perspective over time. Sometimes I'm not sure I've learned anything, but then I think back to some cases where I got laid, and wonder how I did because I was so fucking bad. I also admit that most times when the girl moved on and I had 'no idea' why, it's really because of how I did or didn't react to some of the games they played.

Try humouring the whole concept of seduction. Load of nonsense? Apply the principles anyway. It won't work anyway sometimes as every girl is different, but it's the law of averages here.

Example, teasing a girl you just met? Whoa, that could backfire badly couldn't it?? Yes, sometimes even an innocent statement gets taken completely wrong and you wonder what her problem is. But often? Her eyes will light up, you've escalated your own status to 'confident guy who isn't afraid of the female in front of him'. You're not just a generic, polite, boring guy. You've hooked her in / engaged her with challenge. You will have to take risks and that's the part that's polarizing and makes you attractive to some and unattractive to others, not just a neutral 'nice guy' to all involved.

(I need to follow my own advice)

bl1y · 2014-01-12T02:16:14+00:00

I haven't seen anyone being tricked. Where have you seen that?

Title	Just discovering that pickup is an art.Some things I want to accept but cant.(help if you can)
Author	masterworman
Upvotes	2
Comments	9
Date	January 11, 2014 11:05 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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