New to game, need openers

PrincessCake · 2009-11-23T04:08:24+00:00

Ok, this post is going to be a long one, but it's obviously necessary.

Mystery Method is good for beginners, but it can only take you so far. If you want to get pussy ASAP, then there's really no better. I myself have used MM and other gurus "lines" (David DeAngelo and Juggler to name a few) A lot of beginners want some "pick-up lines" from other guys, and in truth, whatever lines work for other guys, may not work for you. What so called pickup "gurus" have essentially done, is gone out a shit ton, gained "core confidence" that is, they are confident in their ability to pick up women at any place and at any time. What they then do is publish a book that is all about "their" style of pick-up, claiming that it will work for you. And it works for many guys, because they are now confident because they have these "pick-up lines". Now, here comes the cold, hard truth. It does not matter what you say when you pick-up, the only thing that matters is your confidence.

So instead of trying to learn all of these pick-up lines, just start talking to girls. Here's a few openers you can use:

"Hey, I wanted to meet you, my name is...."

"hello, my name is...."

"hey, who are you?" (there's your opinion opener haha!)

You really don't need anything else. When attempting a pick-up, do not think about the past or the future. When you are walking over to talk to the girl, focus only on walking. When you are talking to her, focus only on talking, and when you are listening, focus only on listening. Oh, and you can be aware of your breath as often as possible during the interaction as well. In fact, practice awareness all the time, it will change your life for the better.

A couple of other points. Many guys come from a place where they believe the woman has higher value than they do, and must somehow use some sort of technique to get them, not realizing that they actually have equal value to the woman. No better, no worse.

Do as many approaches as you can, just push through it, no matter how painful it may seem. You'll find that most approaches are only as painful as you yourself make them, and in fact, you are in complete control of how you feel, not other people.

I could go on forever about this, but if after reading this, you're in a place where you absolutely have to have some openers, then here are a few that I've used:

Is it cool to date your ex-girlfriend's best friend? yes/no, oh ok, because I broke up with my girlfriend a while back, but her best friend has been hitting me up and wanting to hang out, and I'm not sure what to do.
My (wingman) here is getting married in a month and I want to throw him a cool bachelor party complete with strippers, but his fiance called me and told me not to get him any strippers. I don't want to fuck up their relationship or anything, what do you think.
So if your girfriend kisses another guy it's cheating right? yes/no, but what if she kisses another girl? Yeah because I caught my girlfriend kissing one of her friends the other night, and she acted all sketched about it, but I'm not sure I really care that much. (whatever, just the girl/girl kissing question is really all you need)

Situational openers:

Hey what are you drinking?
Oh hey, looks like the party is over here? how are you guys doing (I say y'all because I live in the southwest)? That's awesome, my name is ......., you people look fun and I wanted to introduce myself.

A few other tips for the newbie:

Don't drink at nightclubs, it's expensive and you need to learn to game sober if you want to get really good.

Love yourself, believe in yourself. Don't try to cover up who you really are with pick-up lines or peacocking for fear that people won't like the real you because you feel like that person is not "enough". We are all equals.

Make some female friends, especially the kind that you want to date/fuck. I know it sucks to be "just friends" with a girl that you want to fuck, but you'll learn a lot from hanging around them, not the least of which being comfortable in your own skin around that kind of woman. One mistake I made early on was banging every girl that would give me the time of day. Looking back, I wish I would have been just friends with some of those girls instead, 9/10 after you've fucked a girl, there's no going back to just "hanging out" in a platonic way.

I talked about awareness and I'm going to talk about it again, read "the power of now" by Eckart Tolle or "A New Earth". They both talk about awareness without much of a religious context and fit well within any ideology you may have. Most importantly, it will help you journey into awareness, which will help your in your skills with not only getting girls, but keeping them as well.

Make some friends with guys that are good with women. Make sure to offer some sort of value, and at least don't suck value. It's difficult to light a log all by itself, but put it next to a log that is already blazing with fire, and the log will be burning strong in no time and will continue to burn even after it's removed from the other burning log.

And on the other hand, if you have friends that are holding you back, start limiting the time you spend with them. If you put a log next to a wet log, the wet log will stifle the flame, diminishing its radiance and heat.

If you have any questions, you know how to get in touch with me.

postdarwin · 2009-11-23T14:59:52+00:00

I can recommend this excellent opener by Cajun.

PUA: Hey, do you think I look like a drug dealer?

HB: What? (or anything else)

PUA: These two girls just came up to me looking to score weed or coke or something. And they were getting all sexual, saying "Hey, baby can you hook us up." (Say this while doing an impression of the girls manner, including rubbing the target's arm seductively) Maybe I should take up drug smuggling?

Here you have broken the ice with a timely and interesting (though fake) anecdote, you have entered a shared conspiratorial world, you have asked for an opinion, and you have begun actual physical interaction with the target. All within 30 seconds.

I think there's a VIP clip of him using it. I remind you to include a false time constraint, angle your body sideways, and use the kino escalation ladder religiously.

Other people will post that confidence is all you need, but my advice is a substitute for that. Confident people don't need scripts or lines--and they're baffled as to why the rest of us should. Use lines (because they do work) until you gain confidence. Maybe try Decker's Authentic Man program for inner game too.

radax2 · 2009-11-23T20:45:54+00:00

"hey, do you know how much a polar bear weighs? I have no clue, but enough to break the ice!"

HaMMeReD · 2009-11-27T00:02:36+00:00

Here is game 101 summed up

Be a man, learn to save face. By this I mean never look embarrassed or confused, and be able to maintain eye-contact even through the most disgusting things a woman can say.
Opener is just "hello" you don't need anything more complex, "Yo, hey, whats up, hows it going, who are you" all are also acceptable. Do not introduce yourself. Bait your hook so you know if she's nibbling. Name doesn't mean shit though and you can bang a girl without exchanging names.
Once someone has responded to you, spend the next minute just shooting the shit and maybe busting her balls a bit. I treat all girls like my ugly sister which seems to do great. Just like a friend, I'll push em around playfully a little bit if the situation requires it. I try and build up a repoire by acting like I always had it, from the moment I met them.
Don't be clingy, take extended breaks to the washroom and/or visit your other friends occasionally,leave her waiting and go hit on another girl, then come back to her later. Don't get in the one girl mentality when you are in a single venue.
Be physical from the get go, never go straight for the snatch like some men do though. Start at the arms/shoulder, then move to the waist and hands, then on to the head/legs. Once a girl lets you touch her face/play with her hair, you are usually good for a kiss. Keep in mind that touching the face of a woman to early on can backfire, some women don't like it.
I'm going to re-iterate this, as it was #1, but be a man. Picture in your head the perfect you, and aspire to be that. I typically watch shows with characters I like and try and integrate some of them into my personality. E.g. Duchovny in californication, for some reason I really like Larry Davids smalltalk and banter and I find myself doing curb style monologues all the time now. Yeah I know the love child of Duchovny and David doesn't sound sexy at all, but it's fun for me. Hollywood has got the game down, they write it into so much stuff it's not even funny, so it's a great place to learn from the greats. I recommend starting with johny depps don juan demarco if you want to see a perfect stereotypical seductionist.

There is nothing to this, just ask yourself "What would a man do" everytime a woman confronts you with a situation. E.g. A girl asks you to hold her purse as she takes off her coat. What would a man do, he would help her out of the coat, never hold the purse.

kaiise · 2009-11-23T01:17:18+00:00

nope ditch mystery as a system but keep whatver eye openers you elarned

say hello to saying "hi i am rmbarnes"

just jee psaying it keep say hi and holding good eye contact

do it 50 times a day ,

think about it as mr miyagi shit

ZenApollo · 2009-11-23T17:24:53+00:00

It's true it doesn't matter what you say. I've opened billions of women just by cheers-ing her with my drink, and if she doesn't look totally disgusted, I will lean in and say something funny/playful/neg like 'jese, its like amateur hour in here'

You can ALWAYS open with a 'hey I need a female opinion on something', just make sure to have a planned follow-up/neg to whatever the girls respond with. Then without pause, stack one more solid routine, maybe a funny/DHV story or a game/test, and you should be totally in.

The best tip I think for freshman is to KEEP MOVING as if you've got some important things to do. If you are standing around idly, this is very bad, so whip out your cell phone, and while you're pretending to text someone look for your next target. If you need to regroup find your friends, or head to the bar. The bar is great place to do some low key openers, and maybe set something up for later.

Sometimes you'll get shot down, sometimes you'll have a good interaction but it just goes nowhere, and if you really have moves you can kiss close - ALWAYS have one or two routines/lines memorized which transition to a kiss close. When its time to use them she will already be waiving you in. And have some fun out there.

tommyschoolbruh · 2009-11-23T22:49:32+00:00

post darwin's is a good. but if you want to bull rush it, love at first site is good too. i mix it with my tattoo.

stare at her as she walks by and then stop her pu -do you believe in love at first sight? g -her answer doesn't matter, but use it pu -yeah me too/well i do. and i just can't let this opportunity pass give your name, get hers pu -i have to go join my friends/leave but give me your number we need to see this through

for me i add this, because it's true and all people like it.

pu -were you just looking at my tattoo? yeah it's a blue whale. i have it because for the last three years i've had happiness right in front of me and i haven't seized it, kinda like the blue whale is the biggest animal ever yet we know so little about it.

and then say something like that's why i'm talking to you.

it works.

edited to add

it doesn't matter that much what you say as long as you have conviction. just be strong and she will be able to tell. also remember that it's not lying, it's flirting.

Title	New to game, need openers
Author	rmbarnes
Upvotes	11
Comments	16
Date	November 23, 2009 12:31 AM UTC (16 years ago)
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